So I removed the included screen protector since it had a deep scratch on it. I read on the forums that you don't need the protector and that it actually works better without it.
Well my experience has been the complete opposite. Ever since I removed the protector I'm ready to smash this bloody phone. It's next to impossible to use due to the humidity in my area or something. The SMALLEST amount of moisture on my finger tips or even in the air will cause the screen to go haywire and register touches all by itself. Apps will open by themselves...i can barely type anything as it keeps typing multiple characters on it's own or other silly stuff. If I wipe down the display it will work fine for the first little bit until it gets that tiny bit of moisture from my fingers on the screen again and it starts going haywire again. It's a hassle just to try and unlock the phone from the lock screen at times.
So is my phone defective or is just the suffering I must incur by living in a humid area. I can't use the phone like this so I guess I'll have to look at buying a new screen protector. But if this is not normal and is a fault in my hardware then i would like to return it and get a different phone. I didn't really have issues with the screen protector on.
Ive kept my screen protector on my phone, works fine until i have moisture or (rain drops) on the screen, then my phone doesnt respond and also misfunctions the position of where i touch on the screen not sure if this is normaly as its the rain drops on the screen..
Tested witht he iphone 4 in the rain and works brilliant, why doesnt the X10 do the same !! :/
duffy1807 said:
Ive kept my screen protector on my phone, works fine until i have moisture or (rain drops) on the screen, then my phone doesnt respond and also misfunctions the position of where i touch on the screen not sure if this is normaly as its the rain drops on the screen..
Tested witht he iphone 4 in the rain and works brilliant, why doesnt the X10 do the same !! :/
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As you may know, those screens are capacitive displays, that means they're activated by sending (very) small amounts of electricity and are kinda "looking for a conductive material" in order to register an input.
The conductive material can be your finger, or something like... a raindrop or your screen, so that's why it thinks you're pressing that part of the screen...
Now it's even more obvious without the screen protector since it's directly on the screen.
As for why the iphone doesn't have issues with that, it does, but the screen being multitouch it's not as bad...
thanks for the info.good to know.
I didn't like the thick screen protector as my thumb/finger seemed to drag and not slide smoothly. I took it off and replaced it with a slightly thinner protector. I'm much happier with the feel now.
Angie
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@smok3yjk - probably best if you do as Angelahp - get another screen protector on there.
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Hello.
I have a Qtek 9000 and i would like to ask a question.
Generally the screen needs a quite soft press in a button to work.
But in my device, i need to press a bit hard whenever i want to select something in the middle of the screen.
I mean that it needs more pressure in the middle of the screen than in the rest of the screen for it to work.
Is there a problem with my device or is it normal?
Thank you!
I don't seem to have that problem :-/ a light tap will normally be detected anywhere on my screen.
jmdrizen said:
I don't seem to have that problem :-/ a light tap will normally be detected anywhere on my screen.
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Ok, thank you!
Anyone else's experience?
Do you have a screen protector? Maybe it is thick in the middle. Try taking the screen protector off. It may work.
cktlcmd said:
Do you have a screen protector? Maybe it is thick in the middle. Try taking the screen protector off. It may work.
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Yes, with the protector the problem was big.
Now that i have removed it the problem is almost gone( now will be difficult not to scratch the screen without it, but i prefer to have the phone working right).
Thank you!
Try the "Fellows" screen protectors. It is thin and comes in packs of 20, I think. It is like a transparent sticker. Better than not having one.
On my Exec, I use Proporta's Screen Protector. I think it is scratch resistant. I have it on since I opened my Exec fresh from the box and it still looks brand new without any scratch on it.
Thank you, but i am afraid i will have the same problems.
I usually use Brando Screen protectors which is top quality (100% transparency) but in this case it seems that i can't do anything.
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I personally don't see the use of screen protectors. I have had ~6 PPCs, have never used a single screen protector, and have never had a scratched or damaged screen.
Am I just that much more careful than everyone else? I think not! :lol:
My personal experience(after using over 15 PPC/Palm devices all these years) is that if you tend to use handwriting recognition or any other functions that require to "write" on the screen frequently, then it is virtually impossible not to scratch the screen.
This is my first phone with a capacitive screen, so perhaps it is a quirk of them, but I have noticed that if I am not holding the phone in such a way that I am touching the metal bezel, the screen does not recognise touches that are close to the edges of the screen. It seems that the screen requires a circuit to be made with other metal parts on the phone before recognising the touch.
For example, if I put the phone on my desk and touch the backspace key with a single finger, nothing happens. If I keep holding my finger on it, and touch the metal bezel, hey presto, the button clicks.
This reminds me of a watch a friend of mine had a long time ago, that had a capacitive "hair trigger" button that only worked for him (because it required a circuit to be made with the back face of the watch, meaning when he pressed the button it completed a circuit through his body)
Anyone else noticed this? It is slightly annoying because I have to hold the bezel when I want to use the phone..
Confirmed.
And you might very well be correct in the assumption about the circuit not closing in every part of the screen. I think it's the nature of any capacitive surface tbh. If you press in the middle of the screen then there is enough adjecent space to actually complete the circuit while on the edges there is simply not enough space around your fingertip to not close the circuit at all. That is why touching the bezel works.
But as I have been holding my little Hero in my hand while typing anything I simply didn't know this little odd thing. I have read about it though.
Yet another reason to hold your precious little Hero in your hand...
Wierd not like that on my samsung.. its all plastic tho
Mine is the same.. especially on the right hand side of the screen. If it's in a case it makes it really bad!!
Sounds like bad shileding and grounding to me
Didn't notice this until I put a screen protector on but now it's really bugging me.
On a related note (metal bezel related), I've noticed that in dim lighting the button backlight flickers. But if i touch the screen and bezel, it stops.
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Didn't notice this until I put a screen protector on but now it's really bugging me.
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Same here. Could it be that the screen protector slightly touches the aluminium casing and thus grounding the screen (or creating a wrong potential)?
I noticed that when i touch (=ground) the outer aluminum frame with just one single finger then the touch screen works flawlessly.
(I'm using the offical HTC screen protector).
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On a related note (metal bezel related), I've noticed that in dim lighting the button backlight flickers. But if i touch the screen and bezel, it stops.
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Hmm definatly bad grounding issue. Its either some pretty poor design or a defect.
i confrim, using hero without touch the metal edge result in less responsivity and difficult on multitouch operation
hope new firmware can solve this, too many errors using it like a normal keyboard on a table!
So, I had a nightmare - was chatting on my phone, stumbled, dropped the thing dead on to concrete.
The screen now has cracks running across it from top to bottom and a few snowflake/spider web looking cracks in it.
Whilst I can still read the screen and amazingly the touch sensitivity hasn't been affected, I don't want a smashed up phone.
So to clarify - my phone works fine, it scrolls and picks up typing etc etc - it is totally useable but the glass screen that protects the LCD screen has been damaged pretty badly.
Can I just buy a new screen for it? Or will I need an entirely new phone?
Cheers
A search goes a long way...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613954
Okay, so lately my screen's becoming more and more out of alignment. I've basically had to use the black frame on the right hand side of the phone to click anything on the right that needed to be clicked.
Then last night my phone froze while rebooting, wouldn't show the boot animation, just the welcomehead image and froze there. Needless to say I thought something's up. Long story short I checked everything that there is to check and ended up having to hard-reset.
While flipping my phone around through all possible dimensions, i noticed the oily looking stain that is the well-known Newtons Rings problem.
I wasn't willing to be without my beloved Blackstone for a warranty repair and was about to jump on eBay to look for a replacement screen and digitizer, when I remembered something that fixed the touch screen in my old Sony Ericsson P900. So here's what I did that has so far fixed my newtons rings and returned the more soft-touch feel of the screen.
WARNING do the following at your own risk!!! I will not be held responsible for you killing your already dead, Newton Ringed screen
* First, be sure you have a screen protector on. I have a feeling that not having the protector on will damage the screen further.
* Grab your trusty $2 Bic cigarette lighter.
* Hold your phone on such an angle that the oily-looking Newtons Rings are visible. The right amount of light, from the right angle will show them up like the dog's proverbials.
* Ignite the lighter and hold it so the flame is lightly touching the area that has the problem.
--You won't see the rings disappear, more like they will start moving--
* Move the ignited lighter until you have moved, or removed, the oily looking problem areas.
EDIT 29-07-2010:
* Try not to hold the lighter too close for too long, otherwise you may end up needing a new screen protector
NOTE: I do NOT guarantee this will work for you, however, in my particular case, the rings appear to have gone, the screen is now once again soft to touch and the alignment seems MUCH better. It has now been approximately 12 hours since I did this, and so far, so good. All problems are still gone, no visible rings, and the screen is still far more responsive, almost like new.
Newton Rings
So did it fix the issue permanently?
Well, it sort of has succeeded. While my screen still has a huge patch of Newtons Rings (approximately an inch and a half long, by about three quarters of an inch across, they came back after about a month or two) the screen is still functioning, the "soft touch" I mentioned in my first post has nearly dicipated, but it still works. Every now and then the screen will act as if it's stuck down towards the bottom of the screen, but simply rubbing it with a cloth and some mild pressure (just like when I clean it) is enough to bring the screen back to working.
At the very least, it has given me time to save up for a new screen. But I won't be replacing it until such time as the next big change pops up in WM6.5 builds and I cook a new ROM. At this point I'll be completely disassmbling the whole phone for a thorough cleaning. While I'm at it I might as well replace the screen and keep the N.R one for a backup.
To put it simply, the screen is still working and I have no need to replace it as yet.
P.S I'm no longer using a screen protector, I don't care if it gets scratched up now, because it will be replaced, but not until it 100% needs it. I will however put a new screen protector on, if I have to do the lighter trick again.
Thanks Swarvey, got newton rings and helped remove the with the lighter, however i will hav to replace the screen protector.
Cool, glad to hear it wasn't just a once-off that it worked.
I never burned/melted my protector by doing it, but you might have different results with the much higher temperature you subjected yours to.
Keep us posted as to how well it works for you.
In fact I know a less dangerous way to eliminate those rings. I was exactly in the same situation with my HTC Touch HD. I just used some Scotch tapes on the screen, pull the screen to me , and with a lot of patience, everything as desapeared.
It works again !!
Satyan said:
Thanks Swarvey, got newton rings and helped remove the with the lighter, however i will hav to replace the screen protector.
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Satyan, can you be more specific on how to do it....i have tried duct tape method at least 10 times and it has not worked....
1. how far shud i hold the lighter
2. how do i know, if its working - will the oily patch disaapeear as the area is heated
3. Is it confirmed that oily patch is completely gone n doesn;t return within 1-2 days
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Is there a tool that can test/adjust the sensitivity of the Epic's capacitive buttons? Mine seem unresponsive and I'd love to know if the hardware is not sensitive or the software is ignoring the taps.
Something that displays a readout showing which button is being pushed would be really useful.
Thanks,
Jason
there really isnt. its being classified as a hardware issue. i swapped the board out on mine the other day with a returned phone and it started working. taking the phone apart to fix the button at the bottom is a complete pain in the face. and if the gorilla glass faceplate comes out (which needs to happen to swap out the buttons) then it never really goes in correctly. nor does it stay stuck.take it back to sprint and see if you can do a 30 day exchange on it.
Thanks. I got mine at Best Buy and have their insurance. They'll fix/replace it for free but they have to send it to their service center and give me a loaner. I almost replaced it within the 30 days but when I took off the screen protector (Skinomi) to give it back, the keys were working great. I decided to hold on to the phone. Now I have another protector on it (Realook) and am having the same problem. I'm assuming the button is less sensitive than it should be so it works fine without the protector but not well with it. I might have to switch to a partial-screen protector.
So if my buttons are very difficult to press then its an issue and not the general design of the phone itself?
My wife said she has no problems with the buttons so I'm going to have to compare hers to mine.
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Thanks. I got mine at Best Buy and have their insurance. They'll fix/replace it for free but they have to send it to their service center and give me a loaner. I almost replaced it within the 30 days but when I took off the screen protector (Skinomi) to give it back, the keys were working great. I decided to hold on to the phone. Now I have another protector on it (Realook) and am having the same problem. I'm assuming the button is less sensitive than it should be so it works fine without the protector but not well with it. I might have to switch to a partial-screen protector.
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Same exact situation. I was using the Realook screen protector and everything worked fine except for the back button. After I took it off I noticed that the back button worked just fine. After using it a little longer I still feel like it's not as responsive as the other three buttons.
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Is there a tool that can test/adjust the sensitivity of the Epic's capacitive buttons? Mine seem unresponsive and I'd love to know if the hardware is not sensitive or the software is ignoring the taps.
Something that displays a readout showing which button is being pushed would be really useful.
Thanks,
Jason
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There's a couple of ways you could do this:
Every time you press a capacitive button, it should blink right after it registers. This indicates it was pressed.
Another way is to boot into Clockwork Recovery Mode, goto Advanced, and use the key/button test option that's in there.
I'm also using a Realook screen protector, so far it's the best I've tried. I've used Zagg, Invisishield, StealthGuard, and Amzer protectors and non of them had the clarity or feel of the Realook. It feels and looks like nothing is there, aside from being an oil magnet. Anyhow, I don't have any reduced sensitivity when using it compared to bare.
One trick I use to apply the Realook is cover the whole phone with 4 or 5 strips of scotch tape (overlapping each other) before application, it helps to get rid of all the super fine dust particles that are floating around. Also, use a high power flashlight, and shine its beam across the surface of the screen, it will make all the dust you couldn't see before light up. Have a few looped pieces of scotch tape ready to pluck off dust particles that get stuck on the protector and screen. Then get the Realook protector ready, pull your strips of scotch tape as one from the top and quickly align the protector, pull more tape off and follow with the protector, this insures no dust thats floating around will get on your screen or protector, if some does, you have the flashlight to easily show you and the tape at the ready to pluck them off.
Reason I said the above is because you might have minute dust particles that are creating a gap with just enough space to prevent your capacitive buttons from registering.
I took drastic measures and cut a rectangle hole out of the Realook protector so I could have direct access to the buttons. It is ugly, but it works. The back button works much better now.
Jason