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Any one tried any kind of solution to have two sims installed ? Software / Hardware ?
Terran
Hardware
the one where you have to cut the sim out and stick it into a single SIM.
then you will have to turned on flight mode and turned it of when you want to switch
work great for me (Qtek S100, S110 and now 9100-wizard)
See ya
Has anyone tried the 'king of double card'type dual sim adapters in the Wizard. I have one in my Himalaya and I heard that there is also enough room in the Magician. Would like to know if it also fits into the Wizard (planing to buy one) because I do not like to cut my sims!
Hi bruxelles5
i couldn't understand you bruxelles5 !! would explain it ? thank you in advance
You cut the chips out from two of your existing SIMs and insert them into a special holder that a fits in your phone's SIM slot.
Each time your turn the phone on and off (or use flight mode) it switches between SIMs.
An example here http://duosim.com/.
Another type gives you an extra menu on supported phones to switch numbers without having to turn it on/off.
Note - I've never used any of these gadgets so YMMV. And cutting up your SIM risks damaging it permanently.
I use a SuperSIM card that lets me store up to 12 different sims on the one sim card. It came with a reader that lets you copy your individual sims to the computer, then copy them all to the SuperSIM. Works fine on the Wizard.
Hey mitchelo,
This supersim sounds interesting. How do you switch from one sim to another using your Wizard?
Mitchello wrote
I use a SuperSIM card that lets me store up to 12 different sims on the one sim card. It came with a reader that lets you copy your individual sims to the computer, then copy them all to the SuperSIM. Works fine on the Wizard.
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Wow! that sounds like a neat piece of kit!...
I uesd a dual sim holder and this sim switching software on my xda 2s.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=19046
Worked pretty well, although beta version did not always pick up one of the telephone numbers. They may have fixed this in the 1.0 version.. You can download the trial and see if it works on the wizard. I have not tried it yet..
Regards
Chris
The SuperSIM has a menu that lets you choose between the 12 numbers. It appears as an icon in the programs list. Just click it and you will get the menu.
I have a Telstra and Optus SIM on my supersim.
(P.S. this message was sent from my K-JAM )
Looks like a good bit of kit. Checked the web site out and it looks like it sells for $45 plus shipping. One question though. It talks about only being comaptible with sims that have a couple of different 'formats/protocl' (for want of better words) I am cluless as to what this is for Tmobile USA and 02. Can you shed any light on if I might have a compatibility issue using it?
Many thanks!
Chris
There are some sims that this won't work with. For example I can't use vodafone sim cards with it. I did some searching online before I bought, and knew that voda wouldn't work.
As the expression goes, 'google it'
ok, many thanks, will do. Probably better than trying customer care eh
@cbrow51:
Search the internet for any Ki extractor or a software called Cardinal (can't remember the link).
Extracting the Ki from your sim is the first step you need to create a backup. As of today we are able to extract that value from Comp128V1 cards only. SuperSim and similars are able to emulate these type of cards.
So, give that software a try. If it is able to extract the Ki, feel free to purchase the supersim or whatever.
Save your money for a dinner with your partner, if the software fails.
I hope it does help.
Silver.
You have to have a SIM reader that comes with the SuperSIM to check the Ki. Just google your service provider with something like "{your carrier} supersim". Worked for me.
Almost true, mitchello...
My dearest old smart mouse did his job seamlessly.
Furthermore some of the tools I am talking about are free.
When I was working for another company, I used to carry two mobiles with me. Until I found SIMEMU (still largely available for free on the net) coupled with a set of completely free tools that allowed me to backup my two SIMs into just one.
Search the net for SIMEMU... you'll see that the SuperSIM guy has reinvented the weel... getting payed for his efforts !
C'ya mate.
hi there. where did you buy this super sim and how would i find its compatability with uk network sim cards
cheers
I got mine on eBay. Ask the seller about compatibility, or look on Google.
hi there. thanks for the prompt reply. do you remember who the seller was on ebay. help much appreciated. cheers.
I got mine from a seller called "memoryku". He has several auctions like this one atm:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUPER-DUAL-M...832609382QQcategoryZ10364QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
These only work with comp128 - v1 cards.
UK cards are not this so it won't work
Hi,
Was looking at the twin sim option but seem the same seller on ebay is offering this:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-6-N...836681504QQcategoryZ67966QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Universal 6 Number in 1 Sim Card for GSM Mobile Phone
Looks like it could stop having the bulge on rear of phone that the twin sim causes.
Any comments on whether it may work?
Scott
That looks neat - however, I have been told that this sort of thing won't work on UK SIMS due to the encryption standard we use (or something like that - sorry to be vague)
I've emailed the seller to ask him if it'll work with UK sims, and will let you know. If it does, I'll try one in the T-Mobile Vario (Wizard).
It is a UK seller so I guess it will work on UK SIMs.
Just got an email from the seller saying:-
The software is only standard STK menu
So - I doubt there is software for Windows Mobile device but I would loved to be proved wrong
Scott
yes, you'd think so wouldn't you...
From googling around, it appears that all supersims have a restriction that they only work with V1 and V1+ SIM cards. Not V2...
...and apparently all recent UK sims are "V2". I'm afraid I'm just passing on info from this forum, and have no way of checking what sims are v1 or v2. If someone will let me know how to check, I will do for o2 and t-mobile sims that I have
slewis1972: be very careful. As indicated, 6in1 are sim copiers, that require cracking the encryption on the sim before they can host the copy.
If this cracking doesn't work, it's destructive AFAIK. So, you'll be left without a sim. They work only on older Cellnet era sims (in the UK) and ok in some foreign countries.
I've posted on a £4 sim cut dual sim from ebay. Works well on Magician.
Hope that helps.
V
STK menu means SIM Toolkit. STK is a way for SIM cards to have their own menu with special functions on mobile phones.
This is not used much by UK operators, but it is very used elsewhere. You simply get an additional menu in your mobile phone.
This is also supported by Jams and Wizards of course, as it is a standard feature of SIM cards. One of my SIM cards have a STK menu, and it appears perfectly on the Wizard (and previously on Jam).
The problem is whether the PC software will be able to copy the data residing in our SIM cards, whether UK or non-UK. In theory, if our mobile phone can read this data, then why shouldn't this kit be able to do it.
We need more answers from the vendor. It might actually work.
A bit more research: there's no current sim copiers that can "crack" the encryption on a V2 SIM, although sim max are apparently working on it.
Every card in the last 2 years - possibly longer - has been a v2 card.
again, I'd love to be wrong as I'd love this to work, but I think it's sorta doomed
Thanks for your research.
I am waiting for an answer from the vendor, but I have also sent emails to one of his previous customers. There are also guys in the UK among his previous customers.
In any case, I do not get the argument related to encryption. Any mobile phone can read the data on any SIM, as long as you give it the correct PIN number. The encryption might be an issue if someone tries to crack the SIM without knowing the PIN code, but in this case, we all know the PIN codes of our SIMs, so why shouldn't this device be able to read the content of our SIM cards...
Anyway, let's see what the vendor will reply. He is got excellent eBay feedback by the way, and many have bought this 6 in 1 super SIM...
Sirox, I suggest you do some detailed reading on this before you risk a SIM on it. There's a great difference between getting the sim PIN and this procedure. This requires you to crack the encryption of the SIM itself and clone it, and then emulate it back from the clone card.
This is not something most Operators like (although some operators will provide you with a second sim to use simultaneously if you ask).
v1 cards had a weak encryption.
v2 cards (current) are hard, if not impossible to crack, AFAIK.
http://www.gsm-talk.com/t227735p1-please-help-cloning-uk-sim.htm
From http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-SCAN
some cards can be destroyed using this function!!! especially prepaid cards!!! because they have limited running of a38 from 10000 to 65536 times and after that a38 do not work anymore!!!
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Hi Vijay,
Thanks for your info.
The vendor has replied to me saying that this product supports V1 and some V2 type SIM cards, about 98% of SIM cards around. And you have to note that UK GSM providers have never been particularly up for high technology, compared for example to Italian GSM providers who use much more advanced SIM cards, with lots of menus, and 128K, etc.
What I have done, I have written messages to 6 UK-based people who have bought this stuff on eBay (all with positive feedback), asking them to report back how it works and which GSM providers they use. I believe this is the best way of solving the issue.
In any case, I am not at all interested in cloning my SIM card per se, as this would be easily done by asking the operator for a duplicate for car usage. I am only interested in having my 2-3 SIM cards (of different countries) in one, without needing to swap them.
I will report here when I receive answers from those previous customers.
Maybe this can help you ...
Explain how to distinguish V1 from V2 SIM card ...
http://www.nowgsm.com/supersim.htm
16 in 1 SIM
Take care about the NOTE : Work near 100% on V1 card but incompatible with V2 ...
Regards
Asmo
Thanks for the info and the link!
The product mentioned in your link seems to have different specs from the one that originated this thread, as this one declares that it can read some V2 cards too.
By the way, the indication in the note might be useful. It says that if the SIM supports more than 250 numbers it may not be compatible. As a matter of fact, my Vodafone UK (contract) SIM card has only 200 slots, so it might be COMP128V1, therefore compatible.
As I said earlier, UK operators do not tend to use latest technology. In Italy for example, GSM operators made big marketing campaigns a couple of year ago for the new 64K SIM cards. Now they are doing it with the 128K SIM cards, while in the UK I think they are all still 16K or 32K. And they do not use the SIM Toolkit features.
By the way, a couple of eBay customers have already replied that they haven't received the stuff yet, but will let me know when they receive it.
Hello, is there a way to do so? I am in Canada, Rogers is provider, I did debranding as well.Any help appreciated.
just curious, if anybody unlocked theie phone, will it did the trick? like on my storm2, i remove sim, but i can do anything i want except to call out, just connection status stays SOS.
Mine is on Rogers in Canada and i paid 5$ to unlock it using: MobileInCanada.com
I think is a link somewhere here to get to the promo page (5$) otherway is 20$ to unlock it.
After you can use any sim (i use a 5 years old expired prepay ).
Probably is working without a SIM too.
tuxStyle said:
Mine is on Rogers in Canada and i paid 5$ to unlock it using: MobileInCanada.com
I think is a link somewhere here to get to the promo page (5$) otherway is 20$ to unlock it.
After you can use any sim (i use a 5 years old expired prepay ).
Probably is working without a SIM too.
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thnx for reply, ye I am trying to find info if there is a way to use phone just music, video, etc without any sim in the phone.
got my phone unlocked, everything works beisde calling without sim.
Use Airplane mode
1.Airplane mode
2.Turn off device
3.Remove sim card
4.Turn on device
5.Work without sim.
6.Airplane mode off
see tGentleBoot application.
you decade are my hero! been looking for a while to use my second x10 without service!!!!!
Hey guys, I got a Rogers X10 that I'm unlocking to use with Telus. I don't have a Rogers SIM to install tGentleBoot. Know a way to get past the Emergency Screen, without unlocking it?
(unlocking it Friday, but wanna use it now)
The phone will work without sim and on wifi only. However, that will cause the paid apps on the official Google market to disappear. If that happens, you have to reset the phone again.
I had this happen in both my unrooted X10 and my rooted HTC Magic. So, I don't do that anymore.
try airsim or wosim in market
its an extra app though wosim has a widget which can enable/disable wosim and does the above method for you
works with simlocked x10i
what if in my phone when i press the butter there is only power off option , theres no airplane mode?
Insert an inactive sim to bypass. I have a Rogers X10 and use an old Rogers sim whenever my active sim is in the berry
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Hey guys,
I've bought a locked UK Streak off ebay, thinking I'd be able to use it with my German o2 sim...
so I'm stuck with the locked Streak and the rebel sim I bought just doesn't work. I've put it into another phone, rebooted, just all the stuff I could find on the internet but nothing seems to help. It just keeps on showing "no service" and after removing the sim I can't even download from the market.
The downloads don't start and theres nothing shown in te notifications bar.
They're only shown in the download section of the market but nothing happens.
Do you have an idea what to do?
Thanks!
No ideas or thoughts? I really dont know what to do with my streak... what do with you think how long itll take until theres a software unlock?
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Hi all..have recd O2 lockd off ebay.howver the seller has run out of rebel sim and is expected ina wek..meanwhile how do i use the streak since i am not able to install any apps like rockplayer to watch movies..or any other app since no data in absence of sim...also when i copy movies on streak card none appear in gallery..when i insert my old mobile card i can view and play all...strange..
Can i update to 2.1 meanwhile or that is also not possible without simcard..pls advise
can you not connect to a wifi acces point?
otherwise, look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761772