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Maybe a good idea maybe not but since google code was abolished i can't find a thing. Here is a link to an all in one flashable installation of cupcake everything is working gps, market, sms calls etc. I found that the touchscreen may not work on first install just soft reset device and all will work on next reboot. Please follow suit for whatever releases you have thanks. I take no credit in any of the work in the rom biuld we know who these acknowledgements go to.
cupcake 1.5 google-ion 9-12-09
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zniavwqg2m
All files included in zip including voguimg needed to flash nothing else needed just unzip to storage card and enjoy!!!
I will add more links in this post as people add them!!!!

mush2699 said:
Maybe a good idea maybe not but since google code was abolished i can't find a thing. Here is a link to an all in one flashable installation of cupcake everything is working gps, market, sms calls etc. I found that the touchscreen may not work on first install just soft reset device and all will work on next reboot. Please follow suit for whatever releases you have thanks. I take no credit in any of the work in the rom biuld we know who these acknowledgements go to.
cupcake 1.5 google-ion 9-12-09
http://www.mediafire.com/?2ygqzmzjzoe
All files included in zip including voguimg needed to flash nothing else needed just unzip to storage card and enjoy!!!
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is this just standard cupcake? is it themed?

standard with a blank data file

sorry if this sounds dumb, but i have been away from XDA for quite a few months now.
so you are talking about a very flashable android ROM for the vogue? meaning kiss bye bye winmo? everything works? even MMS and camera?

MMS depends on your carrier i have sprint and i can receive via picture mail(web view) but i cannot send. Everything else works YES kiss winmo goodbye i have

I followed the guide to fix my gps In windows mobile but for some reason, it still doesn't work. Would the GPS work if I flashed android instead of running it off windows mobile?

kiwilime said:
I followed the guide to fix my gps In windows mobile but for some reason, it still doesn't work. Would the GPS work if I flashed android instead of running it off windows mobile?
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short answer, no it needs to work in win mo first. back to the drawing board. first you need to unlock your phone with an unlocker, then you need to flash an official rom preferrably from your carrier that is GPS enabled, then you can run android and use GPS on it. many tuts around. if you did all of this already, you didn't do it right. also, some programs in win mo require GPS to be primed before working. make sure to use something like google maps to test in win mo.

I'm curious. What's so great about Android on the phone?
I'm using Windows Mobile 6.1 and the phone seems to run fine.
Are there clear cut advantages or is it just "something different"?

jimt007 said:
I'm curious. What's so great about Android on the phone?
I'm using Windows Mobile 6.1 and the phone seems to run fine.
Are there clear cut advantages or is it just "something different"?
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to me the interface is superior, the apps, but mostly it's just something cool.
functionality wise I think you can achieve the same thing on Windows mobile with the right apps. Just the cool stuff like oooooo are not there on Winmo

jimt007 said:
I'm curious. What's so great about Android on the phone?
I'm using Windows Mobile 6.1 and the phone seems to run fine.
Are there clear cut advantages or is it just "something different"?
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Run Android from your sd card via haret. Then you can have winmo and android.

im having issues, I have the original 512mb card in the phone formatted twice with fat32 partition. Copied the 6 files from your zip file and flashed the nbh file via the windows ruu flasher all was good. Boots with the linux penguin but I get to the state where it says losetup: /dev/block/loop0: No Such file or directory Failed
Failed to mount data fs on SD Card.
/bin/sh1 can't access ttyl job control turned off.
Then it just sits there.
Help, I'm playing around with this on my partially broken vogue (have my good one running winmo) so I can fool around with it but I've tried everything I could.
Thanks

Have try it on my Kaiser... I know for sure it will not work.. and indeed... loop between reset and the HTC logo

is this different than the one dzo made?

my mistake i made the zip file really quick last night i will redo it. Apparent i didnt rename datablank.img to data.img i will fix and reupload but all you have to do is make sure the file is data.img
The link in the first post has been updated to reflect this change. My apologies.

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Apparent i didnt rename datablank.img to data.img
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If that is only the difference then we can rename it itself if you already have the files.
Question: Can you also replace the system.sqsh with a build you like?
(When you know for sure it is working.. beside if GPS/Bluetooth is working.)
And in the ROM there is: zimage, initrd and haret.exe?
the flash will not work on a Kaiser have try the new ZIP file.

I flashed this rom and it was very nice, but when i tried to sync my google account, it force closed and my contacts never synced. Is there a fix to this?

Can someone also make a Flashable rom for KAISER ... thanks..

ludester said:
im having issues, I have the original 512mb card in the phone formatted twice with fat32 partition. Copied the 6 files from your zip file and flashed the nbh file via the windows ruu flasher all was good. Boots with the linux penguin but I get to the state where it says losetup: /dev/block/loop0: No Such file or directory Failed
Failed to mount data fs on SD Card.
/bin/sh1 can't access ttyl job control turned off.
Then it just sits there.
Help, I'm playing around with this on my partially broken vogue (have my good one running winmo) so I can fool around with it but I've tried everything I could.
Thanks
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Try scanning the card for errors. Aslo note that the data file needs to be named data.img. Between those 2 ideas you problem should be solved.

Roms
Here is a whole bunch of them
not sure which ones work perfectly, i know a couple of them work for me.
go ahead and try em out.
i take no credit for these roms
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=aa29b5ef55091cf1c79b87b207592a1cda1aeb409e8c06c379b5ba589d1986ba

Even running natively instead of haret i have noticed battery life really sucks and i'm just talking about standby mode. Using the same programs on android as winmo i get about a third of the battery life. Can anyone recommend any battery saving tip. GPS is on only when needed and data is always on. I will not turn data off as it is always on in winmo and i have no issues with winmo.

Android build?

I'm looking to try out an android build. Can someone recommend a build to use that's easy to set up. I need data, and gps to work. Also would I be able to flash back to WM if I don't like the build?

Not sure of an Android build to meet your needs, though I would like it too!
To flash back to WM is easy once I did a lot of reading. Just power your phone off, then turn power on with the camera button depressed too. This brings up the bootloader screen, then just flash your favourite WM ROM.

ski21 said:
I'm looking to try out an android build. Can someone recommend a build to use that's easy to set up. I need data, and gps to work. Also would I be able to flash back to WM if I don't like the build?
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Hi ski21,
I was in your shoes just a few weeks ago. I now have a great Android build running on my Touch (Bell Mobility). Everything works and it “feels” like a native build like it was meant for this device.
With any of the Android builds you can always flash back to Windows Mobile. You just need to make sure you have an up-to-date (ie. GPS enabled) Windows Mobile ROM to return to. I am with Bell and use the most recent official Bell update so I can go back to a “supported” configuration.
If you have never flashed a custom Windows ROM before then you will need to install the “HardSPL” provided by ImCoKeMaN. This is an alternate boot loader that allows you to flash unsigned (non-official) ROMs. This is really the key to doing anything cool with your Vogue. Without this you can only every install an official ROM released by your carrier. I recommend version 2.31. If you have installed a custom Windows ROM before then you have already done this. You can find the information on this over at PPCGeeks in the link below:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
Once you have the CoKe SPL 2.31 installed you will be able to flash any custom ROMs including Android builds. Flashing Android is a little different then flashing Windows ROMs. You will need a bunch of files:
First things first, you will need a copy of the ROMUpdateUtility. This is a Windows program that you use for flashing your Vogue. You can get this here:
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/ROMUpdateUtility.rar
Download and unpack this into a folder called ROMUpdateUtility.
Next you will need a Linux kernel with a screen size (resolution) appropriate for your device. This is the one I am using and it works great in conjunction with the ROM I am going to suggest next.
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/voguimg-240x320-17-12-09.nbh
Download this file, copy it to the folder you unpacked the ROMUpdateUtility in. Rename it to RUU_signed.nbh.
Next you will need to download some “base files” as well as a system image (which is the main ROM). You copy these files to the SD card on the Vogue. You can get the “base files” here:
http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/XDA/Androidstuff.rar
You will then need to select your favorite Android build. I am using plemen's “Eclair themed” build. You can get this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104
Rename the system file you download to system.sqsh when you copy it to your SD card. Also download the data.img file and place it on your SD card (should be provided in the thread that you get the build itself from). In the “end” (just before you flash) you should have the following files sitting in the root of your SD card:
datafstonand
rootfstonand
systemfstonand
rootfs.img
data.img
system.sqsh (or system.img depending on the build you download)
Then you put your Vogue into boot loader mode. You do this by holding down the power & camera buttons and pressing the reset button with the stylus. Then run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from your ROMUpdateUtility folder.
That just about covers it I think. I am a little unclear what all these different parts do but this should get Android 1.6 (if you download plemen's build) up and running on your Vogue. Enjoy.
Best regards,
The Fish

Excellent directions, thank you. I followed them but it comes up as T-Mobile when it loaded Android. I think I messed up the rootfs.img, this i got from the http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ plemen's “Eclair themed” build page. Any idea where I went wrong, for I am also a Bell user.

krwilson said:
Excellent directions, thank you. I followed them but it comes up as T-Mobile when it loaded Android. I think I messed up the rootfs.img, this i got from the http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ plemen's “Eclair themed” build page. Any idea where I went wrong, for I am also a Bell user.
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that's normal

Well if it's normal then there's a problem. It will not let me connect, shows 2 bars, but says I have no network so I cannot connect to Google. If thefish123 is connected on Bell then I must have something wrong. I followed the directions exactly, but was somewhat unsure over the rootfs.img file for it is not too specific in the directions??? Anyway, flashed back again to NSFans. I have had another Android working but could not get tethering working correctly, I was hoping this one might do it. Using PDnet it just wouldn't work for me.
Also, sorry ski21, wasn't my intention to hijack your thread.

krwilson said:
Excellent directions, thank you. I followed them but it comes up as T-Mobile when it loaded Android. I think I messed up the rootfs.img, this i got from the http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ plemen's “Eclair themed” build page. Any idea where I went wrong, for I am also a Bell user.
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Hi krwilson,
It is indeed normal for plemen's build to show T-Mobile. It was most likely extracted from a T-Mobile device at some point. However when you drag the notification area down from the top of the screen it should show Bell Mobility. Just slide your finger from the top of the screen down as if dragging the top bar down.
I also did not have data immediately after flashing plemen's build. I did a soft reset and then it worked perfectly. Regarding the rootfs.img... I downloaded the rootfs.img mentioned a little further into the same thread that mentions an update to get GPS working under Android.
If it shows that you have reception the first thing to try is calling *BELL and see if you get the “your test call was successful” message. If so then you are on the network.
The next thing is a data issue. I would suggest poking your stylus in the reset hole and rebooting. That solved it for me.
Also, I had issues with missing calls on some Android builds (most notably the cupcake 1.5 build). My phone would not ring till 3 or 4 rings on the other end and then very quickly go to voice mail. These issues have disappeared using plemen's “ 1.6 build.
I have everything working except perhaps maybe Bluetooth (not sure I don't really use it). The phone works fine as a phone (calls come through), GPS and data all work. I am very pleased with it.
Best regards,
The Fish

Thank you for the followup.................IT WORKS beautifully! I have not tested BlueTooth yet, no big deal to me either, but it tethers and it does work seamlessly, and fast...........as if it was made for our Vogues.

krwilson said:
Thank you for the followup.................IT WORKS beautifully! I have not tested BlueTooth yet, no big deal to me either, but it tethers and it does work seamlessly, and fast...........as if it was made for our Vogues.
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What application are you using to tether your Vogue?

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[Q] cant get android working on my htc hd2

hi everyone i am currently trying to install android 3.2 on my htc hd2 and the steps i am following are to copy the android folder to the root of my sd card and then once i have done this then to tap on the CLRCAD file then tap the haret file then a loading bar comes up then goes to a black screen and in small writing in the top left hand corner it says
haret boot
shutting down hardware
turning off mmu...
in preloader
psr=600000df
tags preloaded to 0x11b00100 (size 0x0000f00)
kernel relocated to 0x11b0b000 (size0x0023f12c)
initrd relocated to 0x12200000 (size 0x001d0137)
jumping to kernel...
i have repeated this process a dozen times to ensure that i have not missed anything out last nite i made sure that the battery was fully charged and also i updated my rom from the htc website to the latest version as i have read that some people cant get android working at all unless they did this. i did the process until i got the black screen again and left it all night thinking that it may take a long timer as it is the first time i have ever tried loading android but i woke up and the screen was still there i am not sure what i have done wrong i have watched videos on youtube and read forums but no one else seems to have had this problem any help would be greatly appriciated thanks
i have just tried to boot an older version of froyo android the 2.2v i got past the first black screen and it went to the black screen where the white writing starts to scroll down the the writing faded into white lines what am i doing wrong

back up your sdcard contents to your computer.
format it, preferably from a linux box. if your stuck with win-blows, then you can do a full format, not the quick format.
now put JUST THE ANDROID folder on the sdcard.
put sdcard in phone, boot into android. when it boots, dont do ANYTHING for 5 min. reboot.
once it reboots, goahead and log in, synch etc.... then reboot
after that you can coppy the rest of the sdcard contents back over and be good to go.

which winmo rom, radio rom, and android build are u using?

i am using the darkstone froyo 3.7 build i am not sure what radio is or which one i am using i will try what you have suggested and let you know how it goes

right i formated (full) the sd car using windows vista the only way i could do this is plugging my phone into my laptop using the usb and formatting it that way
then i copied just the android folder to my sd card
rebooted the phone and went to file explorer opened the android folder doulbe clicked on clrcad then on haret
i was then stuck on the screen that i was before so i waited 5 mins just like you said to rebooted the phone and it was still on windows.
i repeated the same steps and waited ten minutes still no luck
also just so i understand after i waited five minutes should i be able to reboot the phone i do i have to pull the battery out like i did and where you put (when it reboots login etc)
is there any way you could email me a file to see if it is the files i am using
thanks for all you help so far guys!!!!
i am from th UK i dont know if that makes a difference
i have a 2gb sd card

i have just done some research on the radio versions and round a thread called master radio for the htc hd2 on xda but i am unsure which one to use and could this be the root of my problem thanks again
OS version 8.2.2.1869(21869.5.0.82)
manila version 2.5.20121429.0
ROM version 1.72.206 (8637200) WWE
ROM date 04/15/10
radio version 2.07.51.22_2
Protocol version 15.32.50.07U

i have just done a bit more research and found out that i need to use a .50 for flashing could this be a problem if i dont could this be th root of my problem

very big part I'd say.... It does say on just about EVERY build that you need a .50 radio NOT a .51....

snowy88 said:
i have just done a bit more research and found out that i need to use a .50 for flashing could this be a problem if i dont could this be th root of my problem
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u need at least 2.08.50 or higher radio i thought so.
linkie he Definitve Guide To Android On HTC HD2
[RADIO] The HTC HD2 Master Radio Thread ( i would try Leo_RADIO_2.12.50.02_2 or 2.14 )
Good luck tell us when it did work

t1h5ta3 said:
back up your sdcard contents to your computer.
format it, preferably from a linux box. if your stuck with win-blows, then you can do a full format, not the quick format.
now put JUST THE ANDROID folder on the sdcard.
put sdcard in phone, boot into android. when it boots, dont do ANYTHING for 5 min. reboot.
once it reboots, goahead and log in, synch etc.... then reboot
after that you can coppy the rest of the sdcard contents back over and be good to go.
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i was then stuck on the screen that i was before so i waited 5 mins just like you said to rebooted the phone and it was still on windows.
i repeated the same steps and waited ten minutes still no luck
also just so i understand after i waited five minutes should i be able to reboot the phone i do i have to pull the battery out like i did and where you put (when it reboots login etc)
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no, depending on the class (speed) of your card it'll take 15-20 min to initalize on the first boot... theres alot going on in the background.
once its booted...ie: once it shows the initial android log in screen. ie: it has actualy booted into android.
if you pull the battery in the middle of the first boot, you just corupted the data it was writing.
format the card again - get rid of the corupted files.
now start over.
and yes, you got to have the corect radio installed etc.
most roms have a requirements list... if not folow the stickies.
as ive stated a ton of times in a ton of thereads, its worth installing ether droid explorer or adb on your pc if for no other reason but to be able to run a logcat so you can watch it run comandline, aswell as post it so others can help you debug/troubleshoot.

I have the same issue with linux showing that message then it boots up a green htc sign and stays there.. i left it there for 40 minutes waiting to see if anything would happen and never did. I had android running before but did a full format on my sd card and then installed another and this happens everytime i try.
I am running Miri_Dinik- V 19.0 WWE
Radio: 2.15.50.14
I also am using the 16g sd card that came with my tmo hd2
i have been searching for days for an answer and decided to finally make a post to see if i can get any answers
thanks

[Q] Have HD2 running windows, Want Android Help

Ok.....First I will admit I am new at all of this, second , I am a girl. Not that, that is a big deal but you get my drift. I have spent the last 24 hrs trying to find a good version of android 2.2 to install on my HTC HD2. I have tried quite a few versions, only one has installed that was the FroyoSense. However, none of my status lights worked, personal ringtones didn't work, picture preview didn't work. I create themes for the market and wanted to run android on this phone to help me out with my themes.....can anyone point me in the right direction? Thank you so much in advance.......that is if anyone is up as late as I am.... : )
Mickey

Hi Mickey,
The best builds I've used are NexusHD2 1.8 (if you want completely stock Android) and MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 (if you like the HTC Sense look). You will need to flash your HD2 using ActiveSync with a new '.50' radio. They can be found here (2.15.50.14 is the one I'm using). Without the new radio you'll be unable to boot.
I'm currently running MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 and it's quick and stable with pretty good battery life. I experience trouble with 'robot voice' when calling on NexusHD2, however everything else works just fine. Once you get a bit more confident you can have a play with custom kernels and whatever else.
To install one of these builds follow the link and download the package, then extract everything. I take the MicroSD out of my phone and use a card reader plugged into my PC to format the MicroSD FAT32. Quick format works fine for me. Then I copy the files into a folder called 'Android' (do not use all capitals) in the root of the SD card. Then boot into Windows, use file explorer to find your 'Android' folder and run CLRCAD.exe (nothing will happen - that's fine). Then run HARET.exe, click 'yes' when told about an unknown publisher, and it will proceed to boot you into Android.
First boot may take up to 10 minutes, as the device creates a virtual 'phone memory' for your apps and sets up the kernel. Once it's booted and at the lock screen, leave it for fifteen minutes. After fifteen minutes, unlock and power off your phone completely. Rinse and repeat the booting process, and your Android should be working perfectly.
I'll keep an eye on your thread in case you have other questions. Make sure you flash that radio first, or you'll be in all kinds of trouble.
Good luck!
Justin

This is exactly what ive been looking for Juzz. can you elaborate on activesync and the radio more? installation, etc? and that froyo work with gen. y? If not, whats a good dual boot?

Truaim,
ActiveSync isn't actually called ActiveSync anymore, it's Windows Mobile Device Center on Vista and Windows 7.
When you connect your HD2 running Windows to your computer with the USB cable, you are asked (on the phone) what kind of mode you want to select. ActiveSync is first, then USB Mass Storage, Internet Gateway etc. ActiveSync is the mode where you can update new firmwares, install HardSPL, and (if you use them) sync Outlook calendars, mail and contacts.
I am assuming you have HardSPL installed, which you use to flash custom Windows ROMs? It's not necessary (strictly speaking) for Android, but makes flashing radios easier. Let me know if you need me to cover that more.
Android on the HD2 only works with radios that follow the '2.xx.50.xx' format. They MUST have that .50 or you'll run into trouble. Flashing a new radio is just like flashing a new ROM. You download the installer, extract and run CustomRUU.exe, which launches the update process. Your phone needs to be in ActiveSync mode for this to work.
If you follow my previous link to the radio thread, you'll find all the .50 radios at the top. I'd go with the 2.15.50.14 radio first. Download it, connect your phone, unzip and run CustomRUU. Then follow the prompts. Your phone will do a few odd things, reboot and be running the new radio. It doesn't change Windows in any way, shape or form. It just updates your radio. You won't see any changes, except in the 'About' page where it lists the radio version.
Hope this helps!
Justin

Also, I run the 1.66.405.2 Generic WWE HTC Windows 6.5 ROM. I don't use any kind of bootloader (I'd rather be sure CLRCAD was run myself). There are a couple of stripped-down Windows ROMs floating around, but I find battery life isn't affected a whole lot by running a regular Windows ROM.
Cheers.

Just in case the radio package you get doesn't have CustomRUU...

The most recent stock ROM (3.14) is reported by many to be a very good ROM for running Android with. I use it myself and have had 0 issues. (It comes with radio 2.15.50, which is great for Android.)
It also means that, for once, my phone is in a perfectly "legit" state and I could send it off for repair without worry.
And I'm sorry, but there are no "best builds" for Android. The ones that are regularly updated are all running very well, so it depends what you want from it. I'd recommend ignoring recommendations and trying a few different ones yourself, as that's the only way you'll find what you like.

I bought my HD2 used, so I wont be sending it in. in fact, if it were possible id remove windows entirely. where can i see if i already have that radio installed?

Truaim said:
I bought my HD2 used, so I wont be sending it in. in fact, if it were possible id remove windows entirely. where can i see if i already have that radio installed?
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Reboot your phone and look out for the info in the bottom left of the screen when you get the first white screen with HTC logo. The number next to R is the radio version you have.

My radio is currently 2.8.50.08... is this compatible with mdj sense 4.6 suggested above?

Should be fine mate. Give it a whirl.
Good luck!

my radio is 2.05.51
will this work or do i need to go back to 2.xx.50 ?

stramvaier said:
my radio is 2.05.51
will this work or do i need to go back to 2.xx.50 ?
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Please read up about subjects before asking questions in future.
It is stated all over the forums that you need at least 2.08.50 (don't use a .51 radio).

Recommend simple, idiot-proof, Android?

I have an HTC HD2. I'd like to run Android so I can use the Intuit credit card processing software....
I'm looking for simple, idiot-proof, acronym-free instructions on finding and installing a current, stable, functional Android...
I'm sure the folks that hang out here all the time know what all the acronyms are, but I'm a touch baffled... I figured out "sd" means the SD card in the phone. But, "NAND", "CWM" "MAGDLR", and some of the arcane terminology is confusing, and I don't know what I NEED to know and what I can safely ignore...
So, I can guess and pick some Android installation (it appears there are dozens of notes touting competing versions) but it would be simpler if someone in here can recommend something for a computer literate user that doesn't want to be a cell phone O/S expert...
Recommendations?

instructions:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
nand tools:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
rom(cm7):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
rom(miui):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028693
rom(sense):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954369
simple flashing order:make hspl 2.08 using hspl4-task 29-flash radio 2.15.....-flash mgldr-flash proper cwr partition for selected rom-if you use eu hd2 make sd-ext partition in sd(this can be done by mgldr)-put your rom.zip in sd-in mgldr choose ad recovery-install zip from sd-choose zip from sd-after installation complete press back then reboot.ask again if you stuck

Not to sound ungrateful 'cause I'm sure there's a lot of useful information in there somewhere, but this is exactly why I'm requesting something idiot-proof...
simple flashing order:make hspl 2.08 using hspl4-task 29-flash radio 2.15.....-flash mgldr-flash proper cwr partition for selected rom-if you use eu hd2 make sd-ext partition in sd(this can be done by mgldr)-put your rom.zip in sd-in mgldr choose ad recovery-install zip from sd-choose zip from sd-after installation complete press back then reboot.ask again if you stuck
Why am I flashing anything?
What is hspl 2.09 and why would I need it?
what on EARTH does "hspl4-task 29-flash radio 2.15" even MEAN?
why do I need a "proper cwr partition"?
and what rom am I selecting?
and on and on......
OK, so I presume the above is either a test or a bit of humor at the uninformed observer's expense (that'd be me)...
So, can I have all this translated from phone geek to dumb end user now?
Again, I presume I can just put Android on the SD card without a lot of pain and anguish, so still wondering what's a good, stable, fully-functional installation that'll run the GoPayment software and let me swipe credit cards through the phone...

my question, did you read the links? i mean really really read them? not just click and say "oh ****, that's a lot of text, i need help?" trust me....read them...then read them again...then read it again. it will start to make sense. your questions--
best read for a lot of your questions (besides what was posted above):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
Why am I flashing anything?
- you said you wanted android. technically you could use an sdcard rom, but he was just trying to give you what you asked for. guess the question should be why are YOU flashing anything?
you should ask - do i want windows mobile and android, only android (get rid of windows mobile all together) or windows phone (wp7) and android. only then can we point you in the right direction.
What is hspl 2.08 and why would I need it?
- read my thread above!!!!!! cuz you can't flash android without it (this is a custom bootloader that allows your windows mobile phone to install magldr or clk which allows you to install android to nand - aka install android to your phone)
what on EARTH does "hspl4-task 29-flash radio 2.15" even MEAN?
ignore the task 29 (i have never done this).
hspl4 will install hspl2.08 to your phone. this unlocks the bootloader. layman's terms - allows you to install magldr or clk to install android (or windows phone 7)
you need a particular radio to make this all work. that radio is 2.15. a radio is what allows your phone to make calls/data/etc. don't ask why this is, this is just the way it is. the radio your phone came with is likely different.
why do I need a "proper cwr partition"?
- cuz this allows you to install android. too small a partition, android won't fit. too large a partition, wasted space. just right partition = all good. you need to READ the rom thread to know what is the right partition.
and what rom am I selecting?
- you need to READ about the flavors of roms. there are a bunch. take one and try it. if it doesn't work, find another.
Again, I presume I can just put Android on the SD card without a lot of pain and anguish,
- yes, this is true
so still wondering what's a good, stable, fully-functional installation that'll run the GoPayment software and let me swipe credit cards through the phone
- beats me. but why not just try something? sdcard roms cannot in anyway hurt your phone.
now go read. and read. and read. and then experiment. good luck.

here is the best idiot proof way to get android on your phone. it is a winmo rom that has android already built in so you wont have to figure out what is what. its so easy even a cave man can do it.

Well, as usual, the secret to getting the right answer is asking the right question. And the trick to asking the right question is knowing most of the answer....
I didn't........
What I'd LIKE to do is have some current, fully functional version of Android available so I can process credit cards through my HD2 using a swiper. Over time, I may attempt to migrate other things to Android - like contacts and such. But initially, I'm just concerned about the CC processing.
So, as I understand what I want to do, putting Android on the SD card will work, and I just need to figure out which one of the umpteen versions is a good one. I'd like a home page that looks at least somewhat like my current Windows page. I"d like the buttons to continue to work as they currently do (as much as possible)....
I went out and started looking at the various SD Android versions here and selected the nexushd2-gingerbread v2.8 one because of a reply in a previous note asking for a "good" Android......
Installed it, and it works fine, although I"m not particularly fond of the home page. Put the GoPayment application on, plugged in the swiper, and ran a charge.... Appears to work fine, so it solves my primary problem...
Now, since I've figured out I'd prefer to use an SD installation, and have one that works, is there a "better" one that I should try? One that looks and feels more like the Windows Mobile 6.5 I'm used to? Or, is there one that has a different look and feel, but some functionality that makes it superior to the others?

This ROM I'm about to recommend dates back to last November...
However, I have tried every SD ROM since that time, used them for either a few hours/days/weeks, and still always returned to this one. It is just flawless, albeit Android 2.2.
Just download it, throw the 'Android' folder into the SD Card, and run the two files (CLRCAD.exe which appears to do nothing, but does enable the sound, and then Haret.exe)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631&highlight=black+blue
If you decide to move off WinMob, then NANDs are good, but personally I just have a WinMob program which runs on boot and then executes those two files)
Enjoy!

dkperez said:
Now, since I've figured out I'd prefer to use an SD installation, and have one that works, is there a "better" one that I should try? One that looks and feels more like the Windows Mobile 6.5 I'm used to? Or, is there one that has a different look and feel, but some functionality that makes it superior to the others?
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do you like sense base builds or would you prefer 1 that doesn't have sense like cm7 or a miui ROM?
AmeriCanAndroid seems to be a favorite for a lot of people and is updated rather often but i personally like RafDroid HD found here. if you want to take a look at other android builds for the htc hd2 found here on xda check out this webpage. it will also give you some info about each ROM like the base, build, when it was updated & if it has sense or not. when you find one you want just click it & it will link you back to the page found on XDA.

Am I correct that "Sense" is the user interface used on the Windows Mobile HD2? If so, yes, I like it, but probably because I"m used to it. I'd have to try some different versions with different UIs to see what's most comfortable.
I'm currently running the nexushd2-gingerbread v2.8 one I downloaded yesterday. The UI is enough different that it's taking a little getting used to.
I'll have to give the others you mentioned a try, and go look at the web page that shows the different builds. I"m amazed at how many there are.

Just for fun I downloaded the AmeriCanAndroid 08/1/11 version and put it on the SD card..... Tried to run clrcad.exe and got the "CLRCAD annot be opened" error. Tried haret and got the same error. Both say "Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found..."
So, am I missing something simple or is there a problem with this build? I found a couple topics in here about problems with clrcad but they seemed to wander aimlessly without any resolution...

I've now looked through a couple DOZEN topics over the last year with complaints of exactly the problem I'm seeing with clrcad and haret... I don't see a resolution in ANY of them......
Yesterday, copied the files onto the phone for the nexus gingerbread Android, ran clrcad and haret and was up and running.......
Now, I've tried three different builds, including reinstalling the nexus one, and NONE of them will run. I get the same error for clrcad and haret every time.
Shutting down the phone didn't do anything.
I figure there's got to be a simple, obvious answer sitting here but I'm not finding it.

sense for windows mobile & sense for android are two different things. i personally dont know of any android rom or app thats availible in the market that will give you a windows mobile look or feel. i would find a rom that you want and then try & find a video on youtube that matches it so you can see what its like before you go through all the steps to flash it.
did you unzip AmeriCanAndroid or did you leave it in a zip file? i have since moved to nand builds so im going from memory which is starting to fail me in my old age but i think it needs to be unzipped using something like 7-zip. i think you just put the android folder on the root of your sd card. there is a video in the thread that shows you how to do the install. you can find that here.
so you tried to re-install something that worked for you yesterday but now you cant install it again? how long did you wait because with some builds it can take as long as 10-15 mins to install everything correctly. could you give me the steps you took step by step to try to install AmeriCanAndroid? i think thats the only way i would be able to help.

Yesterday I downloaded the Android 7z file. Unzipped it on the PC and let it create an android folder with all the files. Plugged in the phone and copied the android folder to the root of the SD card on the phone. Ran clrcad and haret on the phone and IT WORKED PERFECTLY.........
Today, just to try one of the builds recommended in here I downloaded a different android. did EXACTLY the same thing - unzipped with a 7z unzip, copied it to an android folder in the root of the phone, ran clrcad and got the error. Ran haret and got the same error........
Cleaned off the android folder on the phone, rebooted, tried a soft reset, etc.
Copied the nexus android build from the PC to the phone - EXACTLY AS I DID YESTERDAY WHEN IT WORKED. Ran clrcad and got the error......
I don't know what's going on with the phone or the Android builds or what, but there are a LOT of entries here and elsewhere on the web about people having exactly this problem. And so far I haven't seen the answer that makes this problem go away......
My recollection is that I had EXACTLY the same problem about 6 months ago. Installed an earlier version of Android and after the first time I rebooted the phone I could never get Android to run again. Just got the same clrcad and haret errors...
So, SOMEBODY, what's causing this and how do I get rid of it WITHOUT having to do some hard reset the destroys everything on the phone?

Back up any data on you sd card you need (I.e. pics, vids, music, whatever you feel important.) Download the Panasonic sd formatter and format your sd card. Copy over the android folder that is in the 7zip that you have unzipped. You should be able to boot ok from there.
Sent from my AmeriCan NANDroid HD2 r727 magldr

Formatted from the PC.

Installed the formatter on the PC. Formatted the SD card. MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. Copied the Android folder (the identical folder I copied yesterday) to the SD card, and STILL get exactly the same error from clrcad.....
Is this something that happens a lot? 'Cause so far, the two times I've had Android on this phone this has happened. And there are a LOT of topics out there with exactly this problem, and a lot of unsuccessful "do this" that don't appear to work. Does ANYBODY had a real fix for this? It worked perfectly 24 hours ago, now it doesn't. My BIG concern is that if Android is flaky and unreliable on the SD card I can't use this thing to do credit card processing if it's going to randomly fail and not be bootable.

dkperez said:
Yesterday I downloaded the Android 7z file. Unzipped it on the PC and let it create an android folder with all the files. Plugged in the phone and copied the android folder to the root of the SD card on the phone. Ran clrcad and haret on the phone and IT WORKED PERFECTLY.........
Today, just to try one of the builds recommended in here I downloaded a different android. did EXACTLY the same thing - unzipped with a 7z unzip, copied it to an android folder in the root of the phone, ran clrcad and got the error. Ran haret and got the same error........
Cleaned off the android folder on the phone, rebooted, tried a soft reset, etc.
So, SOMEBODY, what's causing this and how do I get rid of it WITHOUT having to do some hard reset the destroys everything on the phone?
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your suppose to copy the unzipped android folder to the root of your sd card and not your phone. i think thats why your getting an error.
example: download rom and unzip using 7-zip. take the "Android" folder not AmeriCanAndroid from within that file and drag_drop or copy_paste to the root of your sd card. then using a file manager from within winmo go to the android folder & run clrcad and then haret. it should run fine. you can also use a program called Rundroid that automats some of the work. its a great app that will allow you to dual boot android but i think you might find it useful as well, you can find it here. RunDroid will allow you to run several android builds from your sd, not just 1.

fwiw, I can't (won't) say anything bad about any custom ROM offered on this board. My own favorite (to use) is a personal choice, which doesn't make it superior to any other - though it may be. It's just what I'm used to, what works for me and what I'm satisfied with.
Doesn't matter if you use a stock HD2 WinMo setup, or a custom WinMo ROM on your HD2. An Android SD build won't interfere with it. And so... (personally) I use AmericanAndroid (ACA). It IS used by a majority of folks for good reason. - BUT - I'm trying my best to be careful and clear with YOU that it may not be the best solution for you or anyone else in particular. We don't play favorites on this site for good reason! For me though... it is an extremely easy ROM to implement.
So you're having a bit of trouble with clrcad & haret... No Problemo.
Google is your friend... find and install under WinMo the 'exceller bootloader'. You'll boot WinMo... and then run Exceller. It will shut down WinMo and run clrcad & haret.
Make sure you've properly installed ACA on your SD card first. No need to partition your SD card. Make sure you're clear with the instructions on the first page and be sure to edit the startup.txt file (before installation) to change the LCD pixel density from 167 (default) to 240... unless you have eagle eyes or like tiny icons & text.
This is your simplest solution, and... get to know it a bit before you swap it for something that might (possibly) not be better. There's a reason a majority of users have chosen to use this Android build.
I'd wish you good luck, but luck has nothing to do with these things. Have fun with it! -Rob

Yes, EVERYTHING was copied to the Android folder OF THE SD CARD......
I have no problem installing yet another piece of software to (hopefully) get the necessary clrcad and haret files to run, but THIS WORKED TWO DAYS AGO. Without a bootloader or anything else. It worked.....
And yes, Google is quite effective. It showed me dozens of topics in forums where people complained of EXACTLY the problem I'm having. What it DIDN'T show me was a fix that didn't involve reformatting the SD card, REPLACING the SD card, doing a hard reset on the phone, and (this one I haven't seen before) installing a boot loader to hopefully get around the issue... BTW: all the above with the exception of the boot loader were tried by people with no success.
FWIW: I"m not criticizing any of the Android builds in here. I'm sure they're largely excellent, with slightly different flavors. And they represent a huge amount of work, of which I'm cognizant and appreciative.
I presume the problem is with Windows Mobile, NOT the Android builds, but it would be comforting to have somebody provide a solution to why it works when installed, and doesn't work after a reboot. Did all those other people that had the same problem do what I did six months ago and just give up on Android as being more work than it was worth? This isn't an isolated problem, there are dozens (and probably hundreds) of instances of people not being able to get Android to boot.
Anyhow, I"ll go find an exceller bootloader and try that. Hopefully, the thing is controllable so if things still fail I can get back to Windows...

I spoke too soon....... It's early here (having started this again at 04:00), and maybe my brain just isn't working yet, or it could VERY possibly be that I'm just too stupid to be allowed to mess with this whole thing, but I eventually found a copy of EBL2.1a._PlusUbuntu.CAB and downloaded it to the PC.
Then I went and found instructions on installing a cab file on the HD2. According to them I just COPY the cab file from the folder on the pc to My Documents on the SD card of the phone, then disconnect the phone from the PC, navigate to the folder, and click on the cab file.......
OK, sounds simple enough....... Did so.
Got a popup on the phone that said it was "Installing ..." At the bottom I got "The program is from an unknown publisher... Do you want to continue?"
So, I clicked YES...... Again, fairly idiot-proof........
And got "Installation of EBL2.1a._PlusUbuntu.CAB was unsuccessful."
Nothing else.... Just the message on a blank screen...
I"ll leave out the amount of screaming and swearing I"m doing at this point.....