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The i9000 will eventually at some stage get Android 2.2 Froyo.
Read here for details.
yay that will make things even better
I don't mind waiting. 2.1 is still pretty cool, and I rather seem them test Froyo properly rather than rush out an update.
re's another outside source posting details. This time it's from GSMArena.
Read it here.
it woudl be awesome with froyo on it
according to SamsungFirmwares on Twitter:
SamsungFirmwares said:
So Samsung is testing 2.2 (No info about phones) And updates for 2.1 in more countries soon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bmtqrpTBrY
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.
Actually he didn't say that. This interview was answered with the usual catalogue of noncommittal standard responses. He only said they are working on it.
hermanherz said:
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.
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at that event in UAE Samsung have stated that the Galaxy S will have the update in around two months
As Eldar Murtazin state,
It was in March that I shared my impressions of Galaxy S, those who do not remember, can read it here.
Quite frequently I am asked to tell about this device in detail, more over some say that there are some so-called reviews in the Internet. To my mind the problem is that for the time being there is no official software for the device. There will be a couple of different versions before it is officially released as well as the default set of programs can be changed. Those prototypes that people have today do not have final design, they are different from commercial devices (there is no curve in the lower body part in the final samples).
In Russia as in the majority of states it will be released in mid-July. Some countries will see the device one month earlier. But the update to Android 2.2 for this phone will be available only in mid-Summer. So is there a point in writing about it if something may change radically? I suggest that there are no problems in the device as such and it is possible to write about it. You can get general impression even today. In this dilemma I ask for your advice, what should I do best? It will be logical to add a part about the camera and description of some applications to the first article and call it the preliminary review. Should such material be published and announced on the main page – remains a question for me as well. Give your advice and recommendations, your opinion is important as always.
As a small bonus I want to mention that Galaxy S is important for the Android market in another way. It is known that most people consider Marketplace to be the only place where you can get applications and assume that Google will protect its right for it at all costs. In other words it will not tolerate other similar applications by other companies. It suddenly appears that Samsung can install such applications; particularly the device has Samsung application and book stores. What is more amazing is that while discussing this issue one of company’s top manager said that on the device you can use any search from any company. Google does not insist on the use of its search by default. The fact that everyone uses it today does not mean that there are any restrictions by Google. This remarkable discovery makes Android not only very open system but the system whose main advantage is the possibility to use any solutions available. This is namely what Samsung is doing. In this aspect both companies are following an understandable path, by not restricting users in choice of services. Admit that you did not know that Google is so flexible about Android? Or the reason is in antitrust legislation? I do not know but the fact remains, Google does not impose any one-sided terms on the hardware manufacturers.
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This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !
MacaronyMax said:
This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !
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Totally agree, games from GAmeloft like (Sandstorm) is so freaken smooth like constant 60fps
The OS seems very snappy already and 2.2 is just gonna blow my mind away when its ready for our S!!!
as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month
v1rtu4l said:
as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month
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lol nice to see you here v1rtu4l. samsung will probably take their sweet time to get this update out, you and i both know how they work.. hopefully well be able to add Froyo to the Galaxy S ourselves as it was rooted today.
Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?
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Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?
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interesting point, is the codec support built into touchwiz or a feature on the media player?.... one of my big reasons for buying this phone is root and the codec support....
"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port
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"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port
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at least you hear HTC and Moto talk about it....I havent heard much from Samsung lately....
I'm eagerly awaiting some guru Rom maker to deliver Froyo to the GS. The first one to do so will definitely be getting a donation from me.
The phone is rooted... how far are we to get froyo on this.. ...
Waiting from samsung is a pain.
If anyone is still interested in a Epic 4G psfreedom port. There is an ongoing project to bring psfreedom to more devices.
quote:
"December 21st, 2010
psfServiceMod – 0.3.1
Android, PSFreedom, psfServiceMod, by klutsh.
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For those who have not seen a new build of psfServiceMod is on-line, lets just hope this solves the few remaining bug’s
Why bother updating?
Well to be honest if your not having any problems now, you wont really gain much by updating.
So what have you actually done?
Not much really, added creation of /sd-ext to the init script, re-worded the menu slightly, and added the option to shut the phone down from the main menu.
Well I had X problem have updated and now it’s better/worse, what can I do?
Leave a comment below, or jump on IRC #psfreedom on Freenode and let me know, what phone & what problem.
My Phone isn’t on the list, why?
Honestly, It’s my lack of experience in Android & Linux in general that’s slowing me down, also not having access to all the phones limits testing & debugging quite a lot.
I will look at as many phones as I can, when I can.
HTC Legend has been removed, why?
As my knowledge of each of the devices I target is limited, I did not realise that the bootloader on the Legend was still locked, I have removed it until such a time a unlocked bootloader is found.
It’s also for this same reason I can not make psfServiceMod for the Motorola Droid X
I have a Samsung Galaxy S, you said you were porting it, what’s going on?
This is one device I do want to get ported, as the Galaxy S is unique in that it uses the same kernel both in Rom & Recovery.
This presents a few problems for me, 1 it’s my main phone & in use daily, 2 to be able to work on the phone I am having to flash back to the JPO Rom to allow use of a custom kernel (I use JPX normally on a daily basis)
When/If I get enough funds to replace the Galaxy S (Or buy one outright Sim Free) I will be able to spend more time on the project."
Here is the link.
http://www.klutsh.com/2010/12/21/psfservicemod-0-3-1/
Although a port for this would be even better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872345
That would be nice to have
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Do we honestly need another thread about this?
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Check the link first. I did say still.
samsung captivate port for ps3jb downgrad
If someone could make a port for the samsung captivate for the ps3 downgrand and jailbreak. Or can some show me how to make a port.
Thank you
Let me start by saying I'm fairly new to Android, and that this probably should go in a general Android forum, but since I'm a Fascinate user, this seems appropriate to me. I've searched, but haven't found a real explanation, and I'm not one to take things as fact without a reasonable explanation.
So it seems like everyone is waiting for an official 2.2 release for the Fascinate, flashing 2.1 ROMs but not capable of upgrading to 2.2+; but I'm wondering why we can't just compile our own OS for our phones? Android is a Linux-like OS, and I know Linux users would never stay on an old version if a newer (better?) version was available. I'm talking down-and-dirty tweak-every-option-by-hand Slackware here. Is the source available for download? If so, why can't we do something with it? Is something in the phone completely locked and unhackable? Is it the fear of having a $500 paperweight? Is it difficult to regain Verizon network connectivity?
Again, forgive the noob question, and thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883004
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882946
There is currently work being done by jt, birdman, and the other skew of developers trying to develop a working AOSP version of 2.2/2.3. The biggest struggle that they have encountered was the RIL (Radio Interface Layer) binaries. Samsung produced some bogus complex proprietary binaries with no properly working source code. Because this phone is CDMA and not GSM, we can't simply use galaxy s files.
Anyways, the point is that there is work being done to bring it to our phone. They have a working AOSP 2.1 that is currently in alpha stage. Jt basically built his own RIL for this phone to get it working.
If this RIL works, we may end up with 2.3 sooner than later.
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Let me start by saying I'm fairly new to Android, and that this probably should go in a general Android forum, but since I'm a Fascinate user, this seems appropriate to me. I've searched, but haven't found a real explanation, and I'm not one to take things as fact without a reasonable explanation.
So it seems like everyone is waiting for an official 2.2 release for the Fascinate, flashing 2.1 ROMs but not capable of upgrading to 2.2+; but I'm wondering why we can't just compile our own OS for our phones? Android is a Linux-like OS, and I know Linux users would never stay on an old version if a newer (better?) version was available. I'm talking down-and-dirty tweak-every-option-by-hand Slackware here. Is the source available for download? If so, why can't we do something with it? Is something in the phone completely locked and unhackable? Is it the fear of having a $500 paperweight? Is it difficult to regain Verizon network connectivity?
Again, forgive the noob question, and thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
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You obviously have not searched hard enough, as this has been discussed in many places. I would suggest you start by searching this forum (edit: or seeing the links and posts above).
I will say, however, that recent achievements by (edit: the developers mentioned above) have made your suggestion quite possible. If you want to get a taste of what is to come, see the aosp alpha sticky located in the development section. The rom still has bugs, but it is a giant step forward for the Fascinate.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883004
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882946
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10char
I must add/point out that the work these guys are doing could easily pave the way for Cyanogenmod- and other well-featured roms to be compiled/ported and used on Fascinate as well.
I've read the above links, but they didn't really quite answer my question. I guess I'm wondering why a Linux-based OS isn't acting/being treated like a Linux-based OS.
Let's say I go out and buy a new computer today. I want to put Linux on it. I get the machine home, download my distro of choice and make an install cd. As I'm installing, I configure the installation either for my specific hardware or I can use a generic profile if my hardware isn't listed.
Now say a new version of the Linux kernel comes out. I can upgrade without having to wait for a version for my hardware. Or if I install MyDistro v1 when I get my machine, and MyDistro v2 comes out the next day, I don't have to wait for someone to develop a version to work with my hardware.
So my question is more of a why can't we upgrade our distro like other Linux variants? Is it because there's no generic replacement for the Samsung RIL? If I were to download the source and do a generic build, or even a specific one, I wouldn't be able to install it because...?
Sorry to be a pain, but I genuinely have no clue. Again, thank you for the insight!
2.2 will boot on the I500 just nothing works. If you would like to help http://opensource.samsung.com/
The source code can be found there. Please feel free to help the development along.
I suggest you read through the reply's to your question and pay special note to those bringing up the RIL as that seems to be the biggest hurdle right now.
I think maybe the answer you are looking for is that it is possible to do it, it's just extremely difficult because Samsung's open source is very shoddy and isn't based on AOS, which is what is used for most other phones.
Since the developers don't have a build that works, they have to work from the ground up with AOS and get every last feature on the fascinate working without using Samsung's code (TouchWiz, widgets, etc).
The links they gave you explain most of it but you have to sift through the posts. There is a dev named jt (amongst others) who is working on a ROM that is upgradable based on AOSP and it looks very promising.
edit: It's also worth noting that when I say "not based on AOS" I mean that it is proprietary software used by Samsung-only phones and is not coded by Google. It still, of course, is based on Android OS. It would be akin to a ROM coded by Samsung for their phones rather than generic ROMs that could be downloaded by other phones.
Perfect, thanks!
Try thinking of it as buying an Ubuntu laptop from dell. Sure its " Ubuntu" but not stock. It so full of bloat and badly written drivers that aren't supplied openly for the user that it would be hell trying get the latest version of ubuntu to run on it.
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For clarification.... so I can wrap my brain around this. Is this situation kinda like having bought a new computer that's running an os, but has no installed device drivers and nowhere to download them from, so they have to be written by hand?
Edit: that last post came thru while I was writing this one, I think it basically answers my question...
So what the devs on here are trying to do is develop a "generic" profile that can work on our phone (as well as others?), creating a solid base to allow users to upgrade and change at-will without having to wait for official releases?
See, that's the part I'm having a hard time with. No generic profile built into the OS to use in the absence of a hardware specific one?
LoverBoyV said:
Try thinking of it as buying an Ubuntu laptop from dell. Sure its " Ubuntu" but not stock. It so full of bloat and badly written drivers that aren't supplied openly for the user that it would be hell trying get the latest version of ubuntu to run on it.
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On a sidenote, I bought a Dell netbook witih Ubuntu. Didn't waste time with Ubuntu, but I chose it because I didn't want MS to get money from a license fee. Installed Mac OS X on it the day it arrived
Ya know, I tried to do the same thing with my inspiron 1525 notebook, with snow leopard 10.6.3 since I have a spare hard drive. Spent a whole day with numerous guides, trying this n that. Got it to actually boot to the desktop once, bit as I was putting the drivers in, it went into KP and from that point on, I could never even reinstall back to the desktop again.
Well, Samsung is giving us a simple/reliable update to Froyo with unique functionality, as soon as possible.
Source: (Twitter, About 12pm 1/2/2011 from Samsungtweets via Cotweet - http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets/samsung-usa )
Samsungtweets We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.
Samsungtweets We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality
EDIT: gave more specific time and source of tweets. Post is meant to be objective, without definition of ASAP for this context.
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soba49 said:
Well, Samsung is giving us a simple/reliable update to Froyo with unique functionality, as soon as possible.
Source (Twitter, 6 hours ago):
Samsungtweets We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.
Samsungtweets We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality
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I'm not sure if this is meant to be funny or not haha. Are those recent tweets?
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They seem to post the same things over and over, of course this is also because people constantly ask when is froyo coming, and every time they say there is no definite date. It is coming soon that that is all they will say; yelling, moaning and crying isn't gonna make it come any sooner, just sit back and it will eventually come.
[or, is there any budget device which is more future-proof?]
So, I recently sold my ZTE Blade to buy a (used) Motorola Milestone and payed something like 50 euros more than the price I sold the Blade for.
I got, though, quite disappointed by the phone's performance. RAM was full even when no real-world applications were running. The phone lagged and I thought this was an issue with the default ROM, so I flashed an aftermarket ROM. I still stood no chance. Performance was horrible and when I found that the bootloader is locked down I was even more disappointed. It seemed like a waste of money to me.
The bootloader being locked down is a bad thing. It also means that the phone can't have any future. At all. Also, all the drivers are closed source and can't really be applied to custom ROMs. It means it won't have any version above 2.3.7 too.
So, no ICS for me. I was really expecting it. What really dragged me down afterwards was that everyone said the phone is OLD. OLD? Can you believe it? I had just bought it and it was old? I think this is the worst buy I've ever made.
After all now, I'm quickly looking to replace my Milestone with a future-proof phone. When I say future-proof I really mean it. So, in my head future-proof means:
- ability to run Android 4 and even Android 5 when it gets released
- unlocked bootloader
- available kernels; last version of Linux would be appreciated
- good enough CPU and GPU
- much available RAM
After looking at the forums all I can say is that Galaxy S has the following:
- unlocked bootloader
- available Linux 3.0 kernel
- running Android 4
- 1GHz CPU
- no more Samsung support (no stock ICS)
And that's all I really know. I'd be genuinely interested on what you believe about the future of the phone and if it will be worth buying.
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No phone at all is future proof.
No one can tell you if any current phone will run, android 5. No one even knows what that is yet, or what power would be required to run it.
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greeced said:
No phone at all is future proof.
No one can tell you if any current phone will run, android 5. No one even knows what that is yet, or what power would be required to run it.
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You're right.
You understand here, though, that I'm not serious about Android 5, I'm just asking if it has the potential to run any newer software that what we might consider now.
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Anything that's out now SHOULD run, but without an official or leaked ics rom from Samsung, you're just hoping ported ics roms are ported correctly.
But at this point, without official drivers for ics for the i9000, it's hard to give a concrete answer. At least, until the Nexus S rom is officially available and given the i9000 love from developers. Seeing as it's the closest thing to the sgs.
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Hello.
I am currently debating wether or not I should get an Oppo Find 5. As far as I have understood the phone is kind of open to develop for. I guess you people that have one has a better understandning of the situation.
What are your predictions on the phone running future versions of Android? Will it be possible to develop a KitKat rom for the phone? I've heard a lot of people complaining about the software in the phone but I really don't care as long as a relatively clean rom such as AOSP/AOKP is available.
As far as I've understood many Samsung phones for example have been a pain to develop for because of the locked down Exynos? Are there any such problems with the Oppo? Such as Oppo or Qualcomm have the phone locked down in some way? I always believe in the community but I don't like when we have to depend on the manufacturers.
Regards.
Masssy said:
Hello.
I am currently debating wether or not I should get an Oppo Find 5. As far as I have understood the phone is kind of open to develop for. I guess you people that have one has a better understandning of the situation.
What are your predictions on the phone running future versions of Android? Will it be possible to develop a KitKat rom for the phone? I've heard a lot of people complaining about the software in the phone but I really don't care as long as a relatively clean rom such as AOSP/AOKP is available.
As far as I've understood many Samsung phones for example have been a pain to develop for because of the locked down Exynos? Are there any such problems with the Oppo? Such as Oppo or Qualcomm have the phone locked down in some way? I always believe in the community but I don't like when we have to depend on the manufacturers.
Regards.
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Next version of android will for sure also come to this phone. Codefirex has a android 4.3 ROM even with a pure aosp function in it, so yes there is also an aosp rom for find 5 and it shouldn't depend on oppo if a custom 4.4 version is coming or not
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