Hi.
I just want to know how people feel about screen size.
I know that they say ''the bigger the better'' but hey, we are still talking about a phone here.
So i say that the 4 inch X10 display is great and i think is the maximum i would like on my phone.
I was reading the other thread about the X10 and the Streak and saw this review with a video of the Streak (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/06/dell-streak-review/ )
At the end of the video they show us how it fits your pants and how you look when talking on the phone.
I personaly think it is a bit odd.
So i would like to see how everybody feels about the screen size, aspect ratio and if you would like to see bigger displays on a phone.
I think 3.7 to 4.0" is ideal, any smaller, and my fingers can't press the right buttons lol.
To me the aspect ratio is more important, the 4" 16:9 display on the X10 is optimal imo.
4" 16:9 screen and some added borders by the phone itself is the limit for a phone in my opinion. Anything bigger I would see as a tablet computer.
Some say the X10 are too big. I'd say those saying that, are the small people with cute little hands.
I'm a rather big dude myself and I find the X10 fit perfectly into my hand and I can operate the phone onehanded, but I prefer one hand holding, the other pointing.
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4" 16:9 screen and some added borders by the phone itself is the limit for a phone in my opinion. Anything bigger I would see as a tablet computer.
Some say the X10 are too big. I'd say those saying that, are the small people with cute little hands.
I'm a rather big dude myself and I find the X10 fit perfectly into my hand and I can operate the phone onehanded, but I prefer one hand holding, the other pointing.
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I'm rather average guy, so average that they could probably use my hands to design stuff for "average-sized hands" and I find the the X10 to be perfect. No one I've encountered has any problems using the phone, except maybe dad but he's an old car mechanic and couldn't use a touchscreen if his life depended on it.
It's just right for me, using my Garmin Nuvi with a 5" screen for comparison, 4" is perfect. Phones are supposed to be "mobile" these days, anything bigger would be borderline pocket PC and just too much bulk in the pocket to be called a mobile.
for me it can be bigger a bit
4.5' should be the best for me
most important is the resolution need increase
previously there's a thread talking about resolution is good enough
but it's obviously losing when i compare to my x1
gaolinde said:
for me it can be bigger a bit
4.5' should be the best for me
most important is the resolution need increase
previously there's a thread talking about resolution is good enough
but it's obviously losing when i compare to my x1
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The X10 has a higher resolution than the X1 and has even slightly higher than most other phones.
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The X10 has a higher resolution than the X1 and has even slightly higher than most other phones.
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yes but as the screen on the x1 is so much smaller (3in), the pixel size is also reduced and as such it looks sharper. so if you cut off an inch of the x10s display, the x1 would have a higher res.
i.e. hd films on the x1 looked amazing. just small
same difference between a 1920x1080 17" laptop screen and 1920x1200 24" desktop screen. the 24" is higher res, but the laptop will look sharper.
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yes but as the screen on the x1 is so much smaller (3in), the pixel size is also reduced and as such it looks sharper. so if you cut off an inch of the x10s display, the x1 would have a higher res.
i.e. hd films on the x1 looked amazing. just small
same difference between a 1920x1080 17" laptop screen and 1920x1200 24" desktop screen. the 24" is higher res, but the laptop will look sharper.
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So what you really meant was that the X1 has a higher DPI. Yeah, that is a good point, but on the other hand the X10 display does more colours and the added size helps when reading text because you don't have to zoom in as much as with a smaller display to see it clearly. So there are good points and bad points to each, I prefer a bigger screen but YMMV.
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So what you really meant was that the X1 has a higher DPI. Yeah, that is a good point, but on the other hand the X10 display does more colours and the added size helps when reading text because you don't have to zoom in as much as with a smaller display to see it clearly. So there are good points and bad points to each, I prefer a bigger screen but YMMV.
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no i didnt mean dpi as it wasnt me who said the x1 had higher res in the first place (that was gaolinde), i just jumped in
but i also agree, i much prefer the x10s screen
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no i didnt mean dpi as it wasnt me who said the x1 had higher res in the first place (that was gaolinde), i just jumped in
but i also agree, i much prefer the x10s screen
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Heh, must've misread somewhere along the cross-fire. I'm blaming the 40C heat here.
haha ok it was me who said resolution.
anyway my point is in the "previous post" i mentioned many guys said very firmly that the DPI of X10 is good enough, any higher DPI won't make it different, and in the same thread people point out than x1 got the same DPI as iphone4.
but the fact is when you comparing it side by side you'll spot the different even your eye is 30cm away from the device.
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haha ok it was me who said resolution.
anyway my point is in the "previous post" i mentioned many guys said very firmly that the DPI of X10 is good enough, any higher DPI won't make it different, and in the same thread people point out than x1 got the same DPI as iphone4.
but the fact is when you comparing it side by side you'll spot the different even your eye is 30cm away from the device.
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I'd say that's a valid point, "good enough" is just that. It's a phone ffs, it's not like you're spend spend hours staring at the screen or reading any longer books on it anyway. I have to look at the screen from about two or centimeters away to see any individual pixels or even notice any pixeling for that matter. For it's purpose it's more than good enough.
If I want to watch movies comfortably the screen has to be much, much bigger anyway and if you want to read a lot then you should get an e-ink display. For casual webbrowsing, making calls and listening to music this display is just fine.
yap it's good enough but can be better.
though it's not gonna happen in x10 hopefully for next SE flagship.
i am a SE fanboy with high expectations
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4" is ok.
4.3" or 4.5" would be better.
Bigger, no way.
All things considered I think 4 is great. 4.3 or 4.5 would be nicer but higher battery drain.
I guess a 4.5 AMOLED would still be better on the battery than a 4.0 LCD.
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I'm curious to as to what everyone's preference is, between the massive 4.3" screen of the evo, and wickedly high resolution screen on the iphone 4.
I'm an evo owner, but I've had the opportunity to use the iphone at length, and the screen amazes me. In terms of sharpness, clarity, and white point, the iphone clearly beats the evo. But there is also something to be said for sheer screen real estate.
Personally, I prefer the larger screen size to higher resolution, but what does everyone think?
This is not a debate of which operating system or which phone you would rather have over all, this Is just about the screen
I find the Evo screen plenty sharp and clear and the iPhone screen is just too small for me now so I don't care how sharp it is it's not for me
Granted I haven't had at length sessions with it, but I didn't find the iPhone 4's screen to be better looking than the Evo's. I didn't perform any tests or anything but I did play around with one for a while. I find the Evo's so clear it looks fake sometimes. I couldn't go back to a smaller screen.
The iPhone 4 screen is nice. No one can deny that, but I would prefer the Evo screen due to size. Even going back to my Nexus or Droid the screen now seems tiny, and there's no way I could go back to the screen on my iPhone 3G now.
I would like to have that resolution on a screen this size though.
I can't look at any screen less than 4 inches now.
The larger screen eeks out a win from me, but I do looooove the iPhone 4s screen.
I prefer a larger screen like the evo with the higher resolution of the Iphone.
Unfortunately it doesn't exist. I'll take the larger screen though.
After using my supersonic and hd2 I got use to the 4.3 and couldn't go back to any other device.every other phone I held felt awkward to look at the screen.
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Its like asking to give up your 65" 1080p plasma tv for a 50 just because things look better on the 50"...
I was an iphone user since day one, I am a mac user, from mac pros at home to macbook pros and so on.
I love mac products but I am telling you, they need to let the phone business period.
They just released the igimp and it already behind times.
Steve, if you want my business back, get your product on a better network, and give me a 4.5" or better full face screen.
I finally got the chance to use an iPhone 4 in person yesterday because my cousin has one. The iPhone 4's screen is DEFINITELY much sharper and crisper. The only problem is that it's so small that when held at a normal length away from your face, you really can't tell. You have to be looking at it up close to really see any difference.
That being said, as much as I applaud apple for trying to improve their resolution, it doesn't help much that the screen is so tiny. I prefer the EVO's larger screen because it makes reading and seeing so much easier. Even my cousin admitted that the EVO is easier to read and that he wishes the iPhone 4 was bigger. Super screen resolution doesn't help too much if the screen is already so small to begin with.
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I finally got the chance to use an iPhone 4 in person yesterday because my cousin has one. The iPhone 4's screen is DEFINITELY much sharper and crisper. The only problem is that it's so small that when held at a normal length away from your face, you really can't tell. You have to be looking at it up close to really see any difference.
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Thank you for saying that. I went in a whole description in another thread about ppi to distance relationship. A good example. Most print media is at 300 ppi or more. Internet images are usually 72 ppi and look like crap printed out. Billboards which look great are printed at 25 dpi. Since you're viewing them from so far you can't tell.
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Well, after doing some pen and paper math, I've figured out that if the Evo wanted to have a display of the same resolution as the iPhone 4 at approximately 329ppi, with a 4.3" size, we would be looking at a resolution of approximately 1216x730.
No doubt at all that would be one sick display, but considering the battery-draining iPhone 4 screen, and then making it roughly 70% larger surface area, and you can see where the problem would be. We'd have to come up with a 3500mAh battery just for it to be usable.
Iphone 4 display has is roughly 5.65 square inches, while the evo 4g's is about 8.15.
I’m not trying to upset anyone here but I have to be honest about my first thoughts on the Galaxy screen. Tonight I stopped by a T-Mobile store and with my iPhone 4G and HTC Evo, I tried out the T-Mobile Vibrant. I had all 3 phones on, side by side and I really was not too impressed with the SGS screen due mostly to that awful screen door matrix.
When I held the SGS about 6 inches away from my eyes, I could clearly see the pixel grid (or whatever it’s called) and was just put off by it. I can honestly say that I feel the best looking screen is the iPhone’s without a doubt and the Evo comes in 2nd. The iPhone’s small screen is a pretty big problem for me but now I’m just not sure which device to stick with.
Am I really the only one who can see the matrix and is bothered by this??? I really wanted to just fall hard for this phone on first contact and I could have. It just drives me crazy that all 3 phones have really nice features and I’d gladly pay double if not triple to have the best of all 3 devices in one device………
You're right, the pixels do annoy me a little, only coz I'm a perfectionist...
The colours are beautiful though; and in normal use I never notice the pixels...
ZacJ said:
You're right, the pixels do annoy me a little, only coz I'm a perfectionist...
The colours are beautiful though; and in normal use I never notice the pixels...
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So I'm assuming you just got used to after a while? I was looking at the notification bar and the battery and other icons seemed to look kind of low res to me. I guess this is what people are talking about when they say it has larger pixels.
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Am I really the only one who can see the matrix and is bothered by this???
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Not trying to be annoying, but you only see the pixels, because steve told you so.
I saw the pixels too, because steve told me to look at them, would have never looked if iphone 4's dpi wasn't so hyped.
I think the screen is very much amazing with full brightness, hope you checked that the one in the store was set to 100% brightness too and not just focus on the pixels.
Next time try to do something real with the phone, like watch youtube HD and then do the comparison to iPhone and you will be all happy again.
Good luck
buddy01 said:
Not trying to be annoying, but you only see the pixels, because steve told you so.
I saw the pixels too, because steve told me to look at them, would have never looked if iphone 4's dpi wasn't so hyped.
I think the screen is very much amazing with full brightness, hope you checked that the one in the store was set to 100% brightness too and not just focus on the pixels.
Next time try to do something real with the phone, like watch youtube HD and then do the comparison to iPhone and you will be all happy again.
Good luck
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I see what you're saying but I guess I'm not really talking about the pixels but rather the type of screen used that gives that screen door look. Remember, I stated that I still have no issues with the Evo screen which I think looks much better in person than it does in photos online compared to the SGS screen.
On the other hand, if you habitually hold your phone at 6" from your face, you should probably consult an optometrist
In practice, the pixels are indistinguishable from those of the EVO, or of the iPhone 3Gs. But, the overall experience is noticeably richer with the Super AMOLED, IMO.
The screen is the biggest thing this phone has going for it, and why I've decided to stick with it.
I don't think you were seeing the sub pixel's pentile pattern. Sub pixels on any device are way too small to see; a camera macro is needed to see them, and you need to press your lense against the screen itself.
The thing is, it had the same leaf and water live wallpaper that my Evo has and yet I could see that grid on it and not the Evo. 6 inches btw' was just to get closer because I thought I started to notice something.
I own the SGS and ive used a Iphone4 a few times, even though the res did look a little sharper, side by side you would have to be really picky to care, the colour of the SGS is much more noticable than the slight res difference.
The iphone4 just looked bland to me.
I have a iphone 3g for work as well, not as fast as the 3gs, but after owning the SGS for nearly 2 weeks i hate having to use the iphone.
I'm used to the pentile matrix since it was also on my Nexus One.
It definitely can give a rough looking edge on some elements but not enough to make me consider ditching the phone even for a moment.
I certainly cannot see the pentile matrix in photos and videos nor in games.
If pentile goes with denser pixels (say 1280x720) I don't think you'd notice it at all on a 4" screen, but it brings the benefits of increased battery life (though this may be marginal?)
Anyway, it can be seen but it really doesn't bother me personally.
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I'm used to the pentile matrix since it was also on my Nexus One.
It definitely can give a rough looking edge on some elements but not enough to make me consider ditching the phone even for a moment.
I certainly cannot see the pentile matrix in photos and videos nor in games.
If pentile goes with denser pixels (say 1280x720) I don't think you'd notice it at all on a 4" screen, but it brings the benefits of increased battery life (though this may be marginal?)
Anyway, it can be seen but it really doesn't bother me personally.
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So you're saying that after sometime, one could get used to the screen and no longer notice the matrix? Unless of course Morpheus comes knocking to wake us up.
Now everyone see the pixel.. because Steve said to watch it!
The screen is probably a net downside to the phone for me - high contrast ratio is great, but I'd sooner give that up than compromise on true resolution and sharpness from the PenTile matrix. It seems I'm in a minority with that opinion!
Unfortunately there's no real choice unless I want to start compromising on the rest of the hardware instead. The iPhone does send to set trends, for better or worse, and I do hope the iPhone 4 starts one for higher DPI phones. Going from QVGA to VGA was immediately a massive improvement.
A little real life perspective here would be nice. 4" screen with 480x800 pixel resolution is one of the highest out there already.
I tend to use my phone from about 18" away, so I care what the screen looks like, not the individual pixels. Plus my Sammy can update those pixels 3x faster than the Evo.
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I tend to use my phone from about 18" away, so I care what the screen looks like, not the individual pixels. Plus my Sammy can update those pixels 3x faster than the Evo.
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Exactly. The monstrous hardware behind the SGS is the real deal here. Even if this "pixelated screen" is a big deal for some people (definitely not my case...), the fluidity, contrast ratio, brightness and colors make more then up for it.
Six inches from your face??! Dude i cant even focus that close. The screen is awesome end of discussion.
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When putting it very close to my face, yes, i can see the PenTile matrix.
But that's complete nonsense- it's visible only if you search for it and the screen is more than sharp enough for reading even small sized text in the browser.
On the other hand, i enjoy the true blacks and amazing colors the screen gives.
The iPhone 4 just can't compare, and while watching videos/playing games/taking or viewing pictures etc. that is a much more important factor.
I won't ever give away better color for some more PPI.
I really like hi-res panels (so much that I bought in 2003 a dell laptop with a 15.4 1920x1200 screen!), but I can assure you that the i9000 res will not be a problem. Of course I would have loved a higher RES - (and 2ghz and and and) but I think that the res is fine for reasonable distance viewing.
I think the real benefit of the screen are the colors, the contrast and the size. After some point the resolution is already good enough that you start focusing on other parameters as well.
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Six inches from your face??! Dude i cant even focus that close. The screen is awesome end of discussion.
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this. and the far superior cpu/gpu/contrast/color power
go get steve out of your head
Has anyone noticed that texts on Vibrant are not very sharp, and you can notice the pixelation easily?
Comparing Vibrant and Nexus One side by side, N1's texts look much sharper. I know that DPI of Vibrant is higher due to the larger screen, but I didn't think it would be this noticeable.
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Has anyone noticed that texts on Vibrant are not very sharp, and you can notice the pixelation easily?
Comparing Vibrant and Nexus One side by side, N1's texts look much sharper. I know that DPI of Vibrant is higher due to the larger screen, but I didn't think it would be this noticeable.
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They both have PenTile displays, and S-AMOLED display has the panel much closer to the glass.
I noticed the sharpness issue too. I can't really explain it but it was looking as if the default text on the Vibrant had edge enhancement applied and there's a halo'ing effect on the letters. This was taken care of by switching to one of the included fonts. The font I'm using now does not have this problem.
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Has anyone noticed that texts on Vibrant are not very sharp, and you can notice the pixelation easily?
Comparing Vibrant and Nexus One side by side, N1's texts look much sharper. I know that DPI of Vibrant is higher due to the larger screen, but I didn't think it would be this noticeable.
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dpi and screen size are two entirely separate attributes. we're talking apples and oranges. they are not related.
While I will chime in my $0.02 as well, let's not make this yet another "pentile is crap" thread, there are plenty of those already. One of the first things I do on every new phone I look at is to pull up engadget in landscape in desktop mode, completely zoomed out. It's a very familiar website to me and I can get a good sense of how much screen real estate the phone offers and how legible small text is. I was amazed on the EVO 4G how legible very small text was, and I noticed right away on the Vibrant that the same text was rougher and somehow interpolated. While the EVO screen is somewhat larger and text is thus fractionally bigger, the difference was still noticeable. However, I still got the Vibrant for several reasons:
- it's the only large screen Android phone on TMO, and probably will be for a while--I'm quite SICK of waiting
- I want to stick with GSM carriers, and AT&T doesn't have anything better either
- the EVO has other issues, such as pretty bad battery life and possibly the detaching screen problem
- quite frankly I only read zoomed out sites for a quick overview, to read full articles I always zoom in a bit. Despite having perfect vision, even on the EVO reading an entire article or two at such tiny text sizes would get tedious after a while. Once zoomed in a bit, the Vibrant looks perfectly fine and non-distracting, at least to me
- the Vibrant has other things going for it, such as incredible contrast, better battery life, an awesome camera (yes, even without flash), and quite frankly the highest performance hardware out right now, until the 1.5GHz or 2GHz devices come one
To sum up, ALL the current phones out require one or more compromises of one type or another. Determine for yourself which ones you can live the least with, buy the corresponding phone, and quit reading these forums to prevent buyer's remorse ;-)
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vibrant text sharpness
i read somewhere online when i updated my nexus one to 2.2 that it had a fix for sharper screen resolution and it did look better after the update so i imagine when the vibrant gets the update the screen will look just as sharp as the n1 if not better
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dpi and screen size are two entirely separate attributes. we're talking apples and oranges. they are not related.
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How so? Same resolution on a larger screen means less dpi by definition, no?
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How so? Same resolution on a larger screen means less dpi by definition, no?
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Because the DPI, "Dots per Inch" is exactly that; a given amounts of dots per an inch of space. Could be on a 5 ft screen or a 1 " screen and be the same.
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Because the DPI, "Dots per Inch" is exactly that; a given amounts of dots per an inch of space. Could be on a 5 ft screen or a 1 " screen and be the same.
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Indeed, so if two displays have the same number of pixels but different physical dimensions, then they also have different maximum possible DPI.
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Indeed, so if two displays have the same number of pixels but different physical dimensions, then they also have different maximum possible DPI.
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I think he was referring to the op and his quote here
"I know that DPI of Vibrant is higher due to the larger screen"
This is not always true cause a smaller screen could have a higher dpi then a larger screen because it's running a resolution that provides it with such. Just like the Iphone 4 dpi is higher then the Evo's dpi even though it's a much smaller screen.
I just read a 350 page book using the Kindle app. I thought the text looked fine. Maybe it's time to pay a visit to Lens Crafters...
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I think he was referring to the op and his quote here
"I know that DPI of Vibrant is higher due to the larger screen"
This is not always true cause a smaller screen could have a higher dpi then a larger screen because it's running a resolution that provides it with such. Just like the Iphone 4 dpi is higher then the Evo's dpi even though it's a much smaller screen.
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100% correct and yes this is what I was trying to point out. For me coming from a g1 its a huge improvement due to higher resolution.
Fyi folks go to wikipedia and look up dot pitch. It explains a lot.
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Hey guys been checking out the specs of GS2 and I like it..they have not confirmed which CPU its using and it maybe Samsungs or tegra.
anyways I would actually get this since atrix will take ages before hits UK BUT and i mean BUT 4.3 inc screen is putting me off. 4" is just about acceptable for me. Also that size of a phone is going to reduce the total sale of the handset, Even my friends who work in phone stores say they find it hard to sell bigger screen phone's. SGS was ok to sell because it was light and not that much bigger in total size then an iphone but they found it hard to sell phone's like Desire HD especially to female customers. I have GS1 currently.
Any one else being put off by larger phone?
It has been comfirmed that its gonna be using Exynos in some regions and Tegra2 in other regions... same for the Super Amoled Plus screen. Some regoins will not get that.
As for the size my hands are big enough.
I would say if your hands arnt that big i wouldnt buy it. Its like someone with massive hands using the Galaxy Tab for a phone.. it just wont work.
no..............
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Hey guys been checking out the specs of GS2 and I like it..they have not confirmed which CPU its using and it maybe Samsungs or tegra.
anyways I would actually get this since atrix will take ages before hits UK BUT and i mean BUT 4.3 inc screen is putting me off. 4" is just about acceptable for me. Also that size of a phone is going to reduce the total sale of the handset, Even my friends who work in phone stores say they find it hard to sell bigger screen phone's. SGS was ok to sell because it was light and not that much bigger in total size then an iphone but they found it hard to sell phone's like Desire HD especially to female customers. I have GS1 currently.
Any one else being put off by larger phone?
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The difference in size between SGS1 and SGS2 is very small.
SGS2 is 2 mm wider, 3 mm longer but also thinner and lighter.
if only they release a 4.3 Exynos version and 4" tegra that would be sweet.. oh well gonna have to wait to see what else comes out soon.
I love big screen phones, using a desire hd and galaxy tab and tried once going back from 4.3 " to 4" and found that I very much prefer the bigger screen. Even though the battery on my dhd sucks the only reason I haven't switched phones yet is because I can't find any with the same screen size, but now that the galaxy 2 is coming I will get one to replace my dhd.
I'm actually eyeing the samsung infuse with the 4.5" screen but I don't think it will be released in europe :-(
Swyped from my sexy galaxy tab
I have a feeling this phone isn't gonna feel like a big screen phone, due to how thin and light it is. If your really worried just wait until you can paw one in the shops.
I hope atrix hits UK soon along with GS2 but in carphone warehouse, i have friends who can get 30% off
Steve Jobs, is that you?
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Well I own an hd2, which has a 4.3" screen. It isn't big, and I have the hands of a teenage girl. It fits nicely, and isn't much of a nuisance in my pocket either. So I dun think you should really worry about the 4.3" screen.
Also, according to the Engadget article, the bezel is very small, so you get a lot of screen without carrying a cinder block around.
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Certainly the size will be offputting to some, not me though.
Interesting that the increased screen size seems to be because of the real stripe matrix in use here, doesn't bode well for Samsung adopting qHD anytime soon does it?
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Certainly the size will be offputting to some, not me though.
Interesting that the increased screen size seems to be because of the real stripe matrix in use here, doesn't bode well for Samsung adopting qHD anytime soon does it?
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I personally find the retina display and qHD nothing more than just a marketing gimmick.
When I had my 800x480 Desire next to my girlfriend's iPhone 4 I couldn't see the benefit of it. Websites often fit on the screen when in desktop mode, but most things were too small to read and I had to zoom in anyway just like I would have had to do on my Desire. The rest looked pretty much the same. But who knows, maybe it's just that my eyes suck.
In the end, I'd rather have a display that is better at saving battery rather than showing me detail which my eyes can't see.
I like higher resolutions for browsing/document display, more important with a view to HDMI mirroring, qHD on a screen this size should be able to display text that is readable fully zoomed out, so I don't buy it as just a marketing gimmick. Its not a biggy in terms of this phone, but when qHD becomes more standard and more apps are customised for it then it may become an issue, but thats really a worry for future handsets.
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I personally find the retina display and qHD nothing more than just a marketing gimmick.
When I had my 800x480 Desire next to my girlfriend's iPhone 4 I couldn't see the benefit of it. Websites often fit on the screen when in desktop mode, but most things were too small to read and I had to zoom in anyway just like I would have had to do on my Desire. The rest looked pretty much the same. But who knows, maybe it's just that my eyes suck.
In the end, I'd rather have a display that is better at saving battery rather than showing me detail which my eyes can't see.
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Iphone4 has much better battery life the desire, i had one for 5 months. retina display is the best overall quality display in terms of image and text quality. I'm an Android person and since i buy my handsets off line, i pay the higher prices for phones but any one says that there is a better display then iphone4's is talking crap because they just hate apple or they cant tell difference due to their eye sight.
Any screen that uses Pentile Matrix to me sucks, I love how amoled works but pentile sucks.
With qHD using pentile well i'd rather use super amoled plus but would need to see it inhand. Pentile is what is found on amoled and super amoled like desire/SGS, the text look poor when zoomed out and fuzzy with 800x480 resolution you normally shouldnt have to zoom in to see text on a 4" but you do. For me text looked better on desire then SGS because it was 3.7" at same resolution so the pentile was squeezed together in 3.7” .
I’v had iphone 4, desire, SGS and nokia n900 in front of me at once and I would honestly say websites and text looked great on n900 and you can read without zooming (landscape mode on all). Iphone4 image quality and text is fantastic you don’t even see a pixel due to the density. On desire and SGS you can see each dot that makes up a text or icon on desktop. But videos look great on super amoled and blacks well they look great as the led are turned off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family
NZtechfreak said:
I like higher resolutions for browsing/document display, more important with a view to HDMI mirroring, qHD on a screen this size should be able to display text that is readable fully zoomed out, so I don't buy it as just a marketing gimmick. Its not a biggy in terms of this phone, but when qHD becomes more standard and more apps are customised for it then it may become an issue, but thats really a worry for future handsets.
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The HDMI mirroring and a higher resolution screen is a fair point. I know that when playing video it should output it in the video's resolution (so no mirroring), but I wonder how it deals with pictures.
Ronaldo_9 said:
Iphone4 has much better battery life the desire, i had one for 5 months. retina display is the best overall quality display in terms of image and text quality. I'm an Android person and since i buy my handsets off line, i pay the higher prices for phones but any one says that there is a better display then iphone4's is talking crap because they just hate apple or they cant tell difference due to their eye sight.
Any screen that uses Pentile Matrix to me sucks, I love how amoled works but pentile sucks.
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Yeah, it does have a better battery life. The multitasking on iOS is more limited than on Android, so there's a better guarantee that there won't be things running in the background that are eating the battery away, and the CPU is down-clocked too. Furthermore they use Li-Pol batteries, which is something that I'd like to see on other devices too. However it is well known that AMOLED screens consume significantly less energy than any other screen technology available at the moment, so if you stuck one into an iPhone the battery would be even better.
But seriously, aren't you taking all this a bit too personally? I'm no Apple hater, not sure why you made me one. Just because I had an opinion that differs from yours? Well, how mature. I was merely stating what I found out when I was playing with the two devices, didn't imply that what I said was the holy grail and the only truth.
Not taking it personally but i just adding some information and my views
I was right, you are Steve Jobs.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I was right, you are Steve Jobs.
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You think you're a funny guy? Go be funny somewhere else, useless post to increase post count...
tegra 2 equipped will come to US .
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http://www.carrypad.com/2011/08/12/a-critical-look-at-the-interface-and-ergonomics-of-android/all/1/
Interesting article and the main reason none of the newer, more powerful phones interest me.
While i kind of agree with this guy, I've been annoyed by the small size of the screen on the Hero many times. When you want to check something quickly on your phone, the small screen size is fine. However, when you're using the phone to pass time (browsing the web while on road trips etc.) it can be really annoying to have a small screen. You have to constantly use your fingers to scroll up and down when reading, and viewing any sort of graphs is impossible. Bigger screens are usually better for gaming aswell, since you can see details better, and touch controls get bigger.
I am not happy,I can't do anything ..
thats why i choosed desire hd over se arc cauz of it's screen ratio ,, to long that you cant manage it with one hand at all , and you know , playing with your phone while you driving with your 2 hands = go to hell !
good info. thanks
The screen size is slightly thinner than an iPhone's by about 5mm, and some people might find it harder to type with because of that, but IMO, the screen size is just right. I can't imagine carrying around a phone with a 4.3" screen in my front pocket.
i think the best screensize is 3.7 -4.0 inch screens, i want the size because i surf a lot, but i still want it to be pretty portable
I agree somewhat with the article, but I do find I want my Hero screen to be bigger. Maybe the size of the original Desire. But the larger screens do look nice too.
Ultimately, you will all be tempted by the big touchscreen. Join the dark side.
Look at this all craze, manufacturers are testing even bigger sizes, +5inch, and along with the tablet spree, it looks like searching for the perfect size, perfect ratio.
A company with a fruit in it's logo knew it all along. 3.5 inch for a phone, 10 inch for a tab. Ekhm..
I'm just gonna playa smartass prophet and say that android tablets are gonna get bigger too. 12 inch, maybe 13 inch. But I doubt if much more without a breakthrough in battery technology. Li-ons would really suck on 13 inch tab, quad core.