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im going to be told to not post this in development blablabla
but can someone make a rom that isnt WWE 2.1...
a port from a different phone, those were alot more "exciting" where all the roms were different, now all the roms are pretty much the exact same thing with the only difference probably being size ¬_¬
there were all the good/varied roms like SenseHero and SlideVillain, but those seemed to of diedd why not actually port something comletely new like x10 or samsung, i know theyr pretty crap but at least theyr new/different
The main reason is incompatibility.
The reason why there were so many ported ROM's was because 2.1 for the Hero hadn't been released, therefore we were porting from devices such as the Legend to get as close to the 2.1 WWE Hero as possible.
As soon as 2.1 for Hero started to emerge, then developers concentrated on what mattered - a fully featured/optimised 2.1 ROM native to the Hero.
Now we have that (more or less), developers are turning their eye onto the Froyo front (2.2). This is what people would class as 'exciting', due to the fact that Froyo isn't designed for our devices...........yet. With that in mind, we're hoping that the Legend will receive a 2.2 Sense update in which we can port to our beloved Hero..Until then developers are going to look ahead with their AOSP builds and make our Hero the best it can possibly be.
In regards to porting other devices, alot of the reasons people aren't porting is the fact that hardware from other devices must match up (or atleast be close) to that of the Hero..but again, developers don't fancy the extra work (or even the attempt) when they have other - better - things they can concentrate on.
yehh thats the thing all devs are just copying stuff from each other so they all end up being pretty much the same...
mojtaba.alhoseine said:
yehh thats the thing all devs are just copying stuff from each other so they all end up being pretty much the same...
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This may sound stupid, but I see it like this:
Imagine planting a seed and then watching it. At first, it seems nothing is happening and it won't seem that anything is changing perhaps until the point the seed turns into a full fledged plant, flowering.
It's like the community ROM's...It seems like nothing is happening, but slowly and surely ROM's are growing into something great and at the end of it all you'll think;
"Hey, nice ROM!"
...Like it came out of nowhere.
Unfortunately for the devs, the same concept doesn't apply as they put blood sweat and tears, hour by hour to get these ROM's out. So while we're waiting for a flower to blossom, they are cracking their skulls on the edge of a desk somewhere screaming "Why aren't you god damn working?!".
Im getting an iPhone 4 tomorrow. Im HTC through and through, try and come to terms with THAT.....
SRS, im actually getting an iPhone. Blame HTC for being idiots, Orange for not stocking the Desire and my stubborn ways for wanting an upgrade every Summer.
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Ummm.... upgrade? LOL
Good joke
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Im getting an iPhone 4 tomorrow. Im HTC through and through, try and come to terms with THAT.....
SRS, im actually getting an iPhone. Blame HTC for being idiots, Orange for not stocking the Desire and my stubborn ways for wanting an upgrade every Summer.
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mojtaba.alhoseine said:
im going to be told to not post this in development blablabla
but can someone make a rom that isnt WWE 2.1...
a port from a different phone, those were alot more "exciting" where all the roms were different, now all the roms are pretty much the exact same thing with the only difference probably being size ¬_¬
there were all the good/varied roms like SenseHero and SlideVillain, but those seemed to of diedd why not actually port something comletely new like x10 or samsung, i know theyr pretty crap but at least theyr new/different
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well, you have at least 3 somewhat different choices :
2.2
sense 2.1
vanila 2.1
you can also add 1.5 roms if you care about them.
There is no point in making a ROM that sucks.
mojtaba.alhoseine said:
im going to be told to not post this in development blablabla
but can someone make a rom that isnt WWE 2.1...
a port from a different phone, those were alot more "exciting" where all the roms were different, now all the roms are pretty much the exact same thing with the only difference probably being size ¬_¬
there were all the good/varied roms like SenseHero and SlideVillain, but those seemed to of diedd why not actually port something comletely new like x10 or samsung, i know theyr pretty crap but at least theyr new/different
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This sounds like what themes are for... I'm using a Galaxy S theme here on FroydVillain, and I like it more than stock HTC Sense
Pick a good Froyo ROM, which you get loads of themes for, and have fun
But yeah, the issue with those ports was that they were far from perfect, with botched drivers and libraries to make it boot etc.
So yeah, it sounds like you need to find a ROM with themes, or check out the Aria port by Robocik.
The choice is all here. There's even Fallah, maxo's legend port ...
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How well observed of you. Moved to General as not development, but with redirecter for 2 days.
ive been practicing moving away from sense. i suppose even cyanogen doesnt even come close, but i got to wondering...is there anyone in the world who would stay at 2.2 just for the sake of sense?
When was the expected date for ginger, again?
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ive been practicing moving away from sense. i suppose even cyanogen doesnt even come close, but i got to wondering...is there anyone in the world who would stay at 2.2 just for the sake of sense?
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Sense will be in Gingerbread, I guarantee it.
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Sense will be in Gingerbread, I guarantee it.
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you wanna put mulah on that one
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When was the expected date for ginger, again?
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obviously its all rumors until it happens (2.1 on the hero proved that) but everywhere i look i see mid-october
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Sense will be in Gingerbread, I guarantee it.
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you wanna put mulah on that one
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Still just rumors but here you go
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/07/23...oid-3-0-gingerbread-won’t-support-custom-uis/
From what I've seen recently, Gingerbread will be 2.3, 2.4, or something like that. Honeycomb is now 3.0. Everything I've read says that Gingerbread won't be a huge change from Froyo and that Honeycomb will become available, first on tablets with phones to follow, early next year. All still just speculation though.
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Not really but a lot of Gingerbread rumors were spun to hell.
1) Techcrunch was the originator of the no skin rumor. All they said was that a couple of sources close to the Android team told them that Gingerbread's UI/UX aims to be so good that skins would become obsolete. They never said that skins were banned. In fact, banning skins would completely break the open source nature of the AOSP. But of course a couple of blogs spun this as meaning that Sense/Touchwiz/etc was dead.
2) The Gingerbread minimum required specs - like it requiring a 1GHz CPU, etc. They were deemed false by Google. Of course you still have idiots claiming that the G2 w/ it's faster 800 MHz CPU is ineligible for Gingerbread.
I believe that Gingerbread will be amazing and will finally surpass iOS in UI/UX. But I also believe that HTC's software/design team is lead by a bunch of idiots that think they can out perform Google's team. Hence why I think Sense wont die.
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Still just rumors but here you go
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/07/23...oid-3-0-gingerbread-won’t-support-custom-uis/
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i call bs. thatd be the first article ive read that concludes with htc updating sense. i dont believe it, but maybe im biased since im a cyanwarrior. for the sake of the convo though, lets assume 3.0 is. already released..with no sense. do you stay at 2.2 for the weather animations, or move on up to the ranks of the GODS?
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Not really but a lot of Gingerbread rumors were spun to hell.
1) Techcrunch was the originator of the no skin rumor. All they said was that a couple of sources close to the Android team told them that Gingerbread's UI/UX aims to be so good that skins would become obsolete. They never said that skins were banned. In fact, banning skins would completely break the open source nature of the AOSP. But of course a couple of blogs spun this as meaning that Sense/Touchwiz/etc was dead.
2) The Gingerbread minimum required specs - like it requiring a 1GHz CPU, etc. They were deemed false by Google. Of course you still have idiots claiming that the G2 w/ it's faster 800 MHz CPU is ineligible for Gingerbread.
I believe that Gingerbread will be amazing and will finally surpass iOS in UI/UX. But I also believe that HTC's software/design team is lead by a bunch of idiots that think they can out perform Google's team. Hence why I think Sense wont die.
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LMAO i like your logic but for the sake of the convo, 3.0 has no sense, what do you do?
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LMAO i like your logic but for the sake of the convo, 3.0 has no sense, what do you do?
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I don't have a problem with sense but, as you can see in my avatar, Mine is heavily modified (Riptide8). If it's there, people will mod it. If it's not, people will still mod it.
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LMAO i like your logic but for the sake of the convo, 3.0 has no sense, what do you do?
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I already use CM. I refuse to use any Sense ROM. I've said this before but I was just about ready to return my EVO because of Sense.
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I already use CM. I refuse to use any Sense ROM. I've said this before but I was just about ready to return my EVO because of Sense.
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well according to the rumors we're pretending are real, even cm doesnt come close. in fact, all devs will literally have to start from scratch, hypothetically speaking...
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well according to the rumors we're pretending are real, even cm doesnt come close. in fact, all devs will literally have to start from scratch, hypothetically speaking...
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I don't get what you are trying to say.
he is saying that he buys in to the tech blogs (which have huge reputations for spreading many false or spun rumors) that gingerbread (or 3.0) will be so amazing that nothing done previously will compare and everyone will need to start developing mods based on this new version from scratch. Also that companies that have spent millions on there "us" will drop them completely even though they have promoted them as part of there brand and have many people who really like them.
Personally i don't see it happening a lot of the same hype came while waiting for froyo. I wouldn't call it on the level of the "GODS" compared to 2.1. I personally remove as much of sense as possible from roms as is so for me it would just make my job easier however i dont see it happening logically speaking.
You can rest assured that HTC will continue to put Sense on their phones - even after Gingerbread, Honeycomb, etc...
They just completely revamped Sense (Desire HD).
Blur, Touchwiz... I don't know - but I would put money on HTC Sense still being there in the future. I don't have a link but I thought that I read somewhere that HTC has already said as much.
Google stated its coming up with something state of the art that will make sense obsoleet. However, when HTC pushes its 3.0 Android's out the door it will have some sort of sense no doubt. Also try to read and understand what google is writing. They are saying current launchers/sense is obsoleet and that it wont be necessary for gingerbread. They arnt saying futur launchers wont come out and improve on what they are building. The article I read clearly can be missleading if you are just skimming through it but if you actually take the time to read it you will see the words they use discribe only current launchers and sense being not needed.
Oh and my wifes HERO has 2.2 thanks to CM6 It works just as well as the Evo version but its performance settings seriously need to remain untouched unless you are willing to do several test because things like JIT can actually slow that phoen down.
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Personally i don't see it happening a lot of the same hype came while waiting for froyo. I wouldn't call it on the level of the "GODS" compared to 2.1. I personally remove as much of sense as possible from roms as is so for me it would just make my job easier however i dont see it happening logically speaking.
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It depends on how you look at it. If you go by the rumors, Gingerbread isn't going to add/improve on the current API/functionality of Android if at all. Instead it'll be a major upgrade to the UI/UX. Up until now we've seen minor/gradual improvements, this release I believe, we'll be a major visual step.
So even though it'll internally be very similar to Froyo, the UI we'll be different enough for us to be wowed and feel like we're using something completely new.
Kinda funny you bring this up cause I just read another thread in Q/A where some guy was asking for 2.1 roms cause he didn't like 2.2 so he wanted to go back. Interesting reading day so far....
Sense is horrible I'm about to get rid of myns warm twopointtwo rom to rid sense from my evo, good rom though but just cant stand sense
BUT what i do like about sense is how you can open the phone and start typing the letters with the dialpad and retrieving contacts on the fly...can non sense do this?
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Sense is horrible I'm about to get rid of myns warm twopointtwo rom to rid sense from my evo, good rom though but just cant stand sense
BUT what i do like about sense is how you can open the phone and start typing the letters with the dialpad and retrieving contacts on the fly...can non sense do this?
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First of all... what? Half of that first sentance made no sense lol.
Secondly... dialer one. Try it. Its awesome.
GB + Sense 1.0 just makes me want to yawn my brains out. Does anyone know if anything in the new leaked ROM can help the devs work towards a Sense 2.1 ROM that is fully-functional? I can't figure out why HTC/Sprint would even bother developing a ROM with the original Sense in it.
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GB + Sense 1.0 just makes me want to yawn my brains out. Does anyone know if anything in the new leaked ROM can help the devs work towards a Sense 2.1 ROM that is fully-functional? I can't figure out why HTC/Sprint would even bother developing a ROM with the original Sense in it.
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its a test rom i would guess there will be a few more leaks before the final is officially OTA'd
Definitely would be nice--I don't see a point to all these GB Sense 1.0 ROMS out now.
Have you tried VirusRom GingerSense Rev?????
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Definitely would be nice--I don't see a point to all these GB Sense 1.0 ROMS out now.
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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, but I think you're kind of judging the book by its cover.
The leaked rom works and is fully functional (I've been running Misfit's themed version for about a day now). 4g works, gps works, everything works. It's a step forward in progress which makes most of us happy. Besides, it's probably easier upgrading sense from 1.0 to 2.1 when both are running Android 2.3 than it is to upgrade it AND the Android software all at once.
We may get 2.1 someday.
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Have you tried VirusRom GingerSense Rev?????
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this ROM has So much potential. watching it like a hawk, but...
sadly, I am cursed/blessed with living in an area with Excellent 4G, and after getting used to it, I simply can't use a ROM w/o it. ;-)
So many great ROMs right now that don't make the cut (for me), because of that. maybe silly, but...
Mikes Gingersense is a really good 2.1 ROM.
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Mikes Gingersense is a really good 2.1 ROM.
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yea once MMS is fixed ill be running this fully
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this ROM has So much potential. watching it like a hawk, but...
sadly, I am cursed/blessed with living in an area with Excellent 4G, and after getting used to it, I simply can't use a ROM w/o it. ;-)
So many great ROMs right now that don't make the cut (for me), because of that. maybe silly, but...
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That's not silly at all! I'm with you, I finally have 4G here in my area and it's nice to have. As much as I would like to run a GingerSense Rom, there's NO WAY I will run a Rom with no 4G! Not no but HELL NO!!! I need and use 4G and besides, I'm paying for it! 5 - 10mb downloads is hard to leave for crappy .30mbps 3G downloads!
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That's not silly at all! I'm with you, I finally have 4G here in my area and it's nice to have. As much as I would like to run a GingerSense Rom, there's NO WAY I will run a Rom with no 4G! Not no but HELL NO!!! I need and use 4G and besides, I'm paying for it! 5 - 10mb downloads is hard to leave for crappy .30mbps 3G downloads!
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As far as I know 4G is working on these roms. Unless I'm wrong?
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As far as I know 4G is working on these roms. Unless I'm wrong?
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4g works on the leaked rom, with sense 1.0. The gingersense roms (sense 2.1) are still ports from other devices, and do not have 4g.
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I guess the reason I am so disappointed is that I haven't even heard of another GB device running Sense 1.0... seems it would have been easier for them to just push 2.1
I sent HTC an email yesterday about the EVO receiving at least Sense 2.0 and they replied with...
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Wow... an intelligent and (at least somewhat) informative response from HTC, instead of a form letter. They actually acknowledge that they are working on a GB release for Sprint, and let us know that it's up to Sprint, not HTC, which version of the UI will be included (although, I think many of us already assumed this was the case).
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I don't see a point to sense.
LauncherPro>Sense
I personally don't think we will get the new sense only because the Evo 3D is coming. I know it will probably drop after the Evo 3D but it just wouldn't make sense on a business standpoint. Now I am not saying that HTC will make that call but Sprint may. There is no promise of the new Sense coming to the Evo anywhere or at least hear say. I love my Evo like everyone else but I am really getting bored with it. I find myself looking at the Nexus 4g and the Evo 3d. I like the new sense but other than themes and a few widgets, I don't see the big hype. I can't say it's not better because it is. More is always better but it's not a deal breaker.
I personally think the leak is exactly what we will be getting. It makes no sense for them to make a rom and add some features from the new sense like copy and paste, new font, and the newer browser. and keep everything else the same and then soon drop a rom with the newest sense. Don't be suprised if this is all we get. The EVO is going to be a....was a Flagship phone very soon.
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I personally don't think we will get the new sense only because the Evo 3D is coming. I know it will probably drop after the Evo 3D but it just wouldn't make sense on a business standpoint. Now I am not saying that HTC will make that call but Sprint may. There is no promise of the new Sense coming to the Evo anywhere or at least hear say. I love my Evo like everyone else but I am really getting bored with it. I find myself looking at the Nexus 4g and the Evo 3d. I like the new sense but other than themes and a few widgets, I don't see the big hype. I can't say it's not better because it is. More is always better but it's not a deal breaker.
I personally think the leak is exactly what we will be getting. It makes no sense for them to make a rom and add some features from the new sense like copy and paste, new font, and the newer browser. and keep everything else the same and then soon drop a rom with the newest sense. Don't be suprised if this is all we get. The EVO is going to be a....was a Flagship phone very soon.
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this is my thoughts exactly.
in a different thread I mentioned something similar...
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so, this Really isnt the thread for this, but yes, HTC is releasing an update this summer, and yes, a GB update. And like I said earlier, it's all speculation, some say one, some say the other (re: what Sense will be in it.)
Personally, the idea of getting GB to "work" with an old version of Sense, Then putting Sense 2.X on Top of that makes little to no sense to me (pun... intended?).
Sense is big, Sense runs deep. It's not "just a simple overlay". From a software testing standpoint, it makes no sense to test an OS with an extensive older software set integrated, then retest (this close to release) with a completely new software system later.
Perhaps the leak is what we are getting (likely), or perhaps it's an early test build that has been abandoned...? (if we're lucky)
(i'm not saying anything more on this, there are a billionionion other threads re: this... )
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imho, a fully (meaning 4g) functioning gb/sense2 rom for our evos is a long shot, and even less likely an official one.
please, devs, prove me wrong.
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Sense 2.1 would be nice on the Evo, but as it stands now i would like a Gingerbread ROM with 4G functionality with sense 2.1. Other than that, form a marketing standpoint it would make sense for sprint to either hold off on then update or remove it to entice people to buy phones with the newer software. It is a logical business move.
i love how everybody has to use the phrases 'what makes sense' and 'what doesnt make sense', in a thread about Sense
I thought it was posted that 2.3 (and whatever version sense HTC will put in) is supposed to push late June? Was that information innacurate?
I'm liking how quick things are going with this phone (already rooted and the bootloader is unlocked).
So, anyone attempting to port HTC sense 2.1 (or even 3.0 once the port to the WVGA-based DHD/HD2 phones is complete). touchwhiz4 is a nice improvement over the old one but let’s face it, it does not have a chance competing against the stuff HTC is making with Sense.
the ROM community development for the first S was a bit disappointing and am hoping things are much better this time round.
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I'm liking how quick things are going with this phone (already rooted and the bootloader is unlocked).
So, anyone attempting to port HTC sense 2.1 (or even 3.0 once the port to the WVGA-based DHD/HD2 phones is complete). touchwhiz4 is a nice improvement over the old one but let’s face it, it does not have a chance competing against the stuff HTC is making with Sense.
the ROM community development for the first S was a bit disappointing and am hoping things are much better this time round.
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Not many people have the phone yet remember.
Also, the dev community for the original is excellent. Loads of ports!
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You should have wait for the Sensation with the amazing Sense 3.0
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You should have wait for the Sensation with the amazing Sense 3.0
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and locked bootloader
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and locked bootloader
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Will most likely be unlockable like most other HTC devices. They wont be as big a c**ts as Sony Ericsson have been on some of theirs.
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Will most likely be unlockable like most other HTC devices. They wont be as big a c**ts as Sony Ericsson have been on some of theirs.
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http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
You were saying?
(I assume you meant previous models?)
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http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
You were saying?
(I assume you meant previous models?)
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You only have to send them your name, social security number, IMEI, seriel number, and parents sex tapes in order to unlock it!
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You only have to send them your name, social security number, IMEI, seriel number, and parents sex tapes in order to unlock it!
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LMAO
anyway, back on track.
i'd like to see a rom with sense, as I like the interface.
the LP Sense theme is a pretty good alternative.
hopefully getting my SGS2 next weekend
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Only on the sim free models, any purchased on a contract are stuck with locked bootloaders! Had an arc, sold it! (To be honest it was just a temp after I sold my sgs 1 and was waiting for the sgs 2)
And back on the subject of sense, I like the widgets and thats about it. I need toggles for wifi in the statusbar. prefer stock lockscreens and dont particularly like the launcher, I usually used to use ADW or launcher pro on my DHD back in the week I owned it for :S
maybe this thread belonged better in the development forum.
the only real advantage the Sensation has over the GS2 is the comunity development and the UI. porting Sense3.0 would be a MAJOR win. not sure why so many people in the poll are not interested in seeing it happen
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the only real advantage the Sensation has over the GS2 is the comunity development and the UI. porting Sense3.0 would be a MAJOR win. not sure why so many people in the poll are not interested in seeing it happen
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Because sense is a memory/battery hog, for some people the best experience is created by launcherpro, zeam or adw launcher(ex) Personally I tried sense, miui and cm7 but so far I prefer my own settings and setups. (launcherpro plus with custom wallpapers/widgets and transparent shortcuts) Cm7 might eventually become faster than stock but will not have samsungs tweaks/audiocodex/hardware acceleration and Miui really has to be your cup of tea. Same goes for sense IMO, besides I think the appdrawer and bars are pretty ugly and could use some transparency, but thats my opinion.
Its sad.
Development section is super slow. Not much traffic. user base is getting smaller and smaller.
Are you going to ditch your myTouch 4g soon?
If u don't like it trade it. Most here enjoy it and I see work on it
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ROM development has definitely slowed. The latest example is with Sense 3.5. I can list 6 models of HTC phones that already have a working ROM, yet I bet the MT4G won't get one for several months, if ever. Compare the MT4G dev section to the DHD dev section. Almost identical phones, yet there is no comparison in the quality and number of ROMs between the two phones. I hate to complain, since ROMs are generally free and done in developer's spare time, but I do wish the MT4G was more like other more popular phones when it comes to ROM development.
I recently picked up a mytouch 4g and while it does seem like development isn't moving at a real fast pace, it looks like there's still plenty of a selection of roms to choose from.
Btw, LOVING my mt4g so far! Much better than my vibrant, g2, sgs4g or hd2. It's just an all around great phone!
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ROM development has definitely slowed. The latest example is with Sense 3.5. I can list 6 models of HTC phones that already have a working ROM, yet I bet the MT4G won't get one for several months, if ever. Compare the MT4G dev section to the DHD dev section. Almost identical phones, yet there is no comparison in the quality and number of ROMs between the two phones. I hate to complain, since ROMs are generally free and done in developer's spare time, but I do wish the MT4G was more like other more popular phones when it comes to ROM development.
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The MT4G has a 3.5 Sense ROM, Raffyv posted it on Rootzwiki. But it's true about the development, this phone just doesn't have that fan base as other Htc phones, compare the MT4GS development to the Sensation, it's practically night and day over there. MT4GS is so far behind the Sensation and Evo3D that's it's not even funny. I've recently sold my MT4G, and will most likely get another Android phone when Quads are made, I've been looking at WP7 devices lately. Tbh WP7 is rather quick on the aging hardware it's used on, but it's rather simplistic compared to Android, offering no visible widgets, but instead a tile UI.
Ace42 said:
The MT4G has a 3.5 Sense ROM, Raffyv posted it on Rootzwiki.
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I know, and call me cynical, but I don't take anything too seriously until it's posted on XDA.
TeeJay3800 said:
I know, and call me cynical, but I don't take anything too seriously until it's posted on XDA.
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You won't find it here, might be some time like you said-till unity team ports Sense 3.5. Evil has DS and VU, but Gazaian said he was working on it currently
It's actually a damn good rom.. does need alil work tho..bt and WiFi don't work at present, but other than that, sense 3.5 just takes the cake
You have to see a life span for device is 6months and MT4G came out on Q4 of 2010 and is almost close to years old to general public and for us who gets it 3-6months before its even older. Now it does not mean its abandoned but the user base for MT4G was never big as its not HD2(Leo). Far as AOSP is there some of us can careless about Sense based even the hybrids, as CM7 all th way.
Far as kernel and other hack goes its usually not device specific as its usually OS revision implementation which are minor tweaks for the version. On top of that we have major app base that is rich if one know how to search and find what the looking for via XDA or other forums and sites. I am not worried remotely about dev for our device as ill stick to it even if all stops until quad core based superphones are in market or forced to go CDMA based carrier due to recent at&tmobile merge fiasco.
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AggNA said:
You have to see a life span for device is 6months and MT4G came out on Q4 of 2010 and is almost close to years old to general public and for us who gets it 3-6months before its even older.
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I'm one of those people who ends up getting the phone 3-6months after, sometimes development is more secured or the quality is better once the device has been in the open. If you get it right away it's not gonna offer a wide range of hacks and such.
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I'm one of those people who ends up getting the phone 3-6months after, sometimes development is more secured or the quality is better once the device has been in the open. If you get it right away it's not gonna offer a wide range of hacks and such.
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True as it matures you have more option but at the cost of bragging right. I paid $750 USD for HD2-US (Leo1024) not the HD2-EU (Leo512) and got it like 4-5months before it came in USA. I was one of the only few folks in USA who had 4.3" screen and this was 9-10months before the Evo came out on Sprint. Same goes for MT4G got it like 2months before it was out on TMoUS at cost of $590. Keep in mind then it was the fastest single core device as Qualcomm 2GS proc with highest ram offering 768mb. This was before US-AT&T Inspire and after DHD-EU model as I refuse to go with inferior SamSUX device such as Nexsus S or another BS-SGS. The development for hack are usually OS dependent as its not device specific. But most of the tweaks are usually device specific due to the thread subsection its posted thus it reflects more based on that, I am sure you know what I am saying as I am already ready to go home.
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Well I don't mind the smaller dev base here ... I have a handful of different devices, and there seems to be less drama here with the glacier! More development means more ppl arguing over who is better or you took this from me, blah blah blah...
Also, just cause its not posted on xda doesn't mean its not legit... Raft was bringing us ports when no one else wad really doing things for this phone! Just happens that he was ban from here for reasons I don't know...
Thanks for the link for Sense 3.5. I agree with every one of you. Also, I head that devs were able to access the primary bootloader like in HD2 completely gaining control of the hardware. Which would be cool. Think Wp7 on SGSII.
Although Microsoft would sue the heck out of it, so its a NOGO.
wait I FORGOT MEEGOOOOOOO on SGSII that would be EPIC!!
I don't really care how many roms there are or how often they get updated, as long as they're good. The quality of the roms seems top-notch for the MyTouch 4G.
I'm a little confused about what the problem is. Coming from an hd2, that forum is great and very alive, true. But what's the point of having four different takes on cm7? Or sense? Or sense 3.0? If that's what you mean, then I'll pass. Now if you're taking about a guy like tytung making kernels, figuring out a way to add aGPS support, etc then yeah he's great, but it took so long to do (not his fault though. That guy is a genius). Frankly, I'm happier with less selection of ROMS to choose from because overall, each mt4g rom rocks nearly every other "this is my take on cm7 I added colors" rom out there. The mt4g is 100% functional. Development has slowed because honestly, what more is there to do short of hardwiring another core into this phone? No disrespect intended for any dev.
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As some before me, I honestly prefer MT4G ROMs selection to the others.
Funny that HD2 comes up here. I was trying to find a decent fully functional ROM for HD2 and found nothing. The only fully functional Sense ROMs over there are Froyo - not a single Gingerbread Sense ROM that has hotspot/tethering or camcorder. Yes, I know, kernel source needed. But it isn't the question - look for how long we already have fully functional Sense 2.1 / 3.0, and they still don't! But there are at least 5-6, if not 10, different (half-functional) Sense 3.0 ROMs. Personally, I prefer quality over quantity.
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True as it matures you have more option but at the cost of bragging right. I paid $750 USD for HD2-US (Leo1024) not the HD2-EU (Leo512) and got it like 4-5months before it came in USA. I was one of the only few folks in USA who had 4.3" screen and this was 9-10months before the Evo came out on Sprint. Same goes for MT4G got it like 2months before it was out on TMoUS at cost of $590. Keep in mind then it was the fastest single core device as Qualcomm 2GS proc with highest ram offering 768mb. This was before US-AT&T Inspire and after DHD-EU model as I refuse to go with inferior SamSUX device such as Nexsus S or another BS-SGS. The development for hack are usually OS dependent as its not device specific. But most of the tweaks are usually device specific due to the thread subsection its posted thus it reflects more based on that, I am sure you know what I am saying as I am already ready to go home.
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Keep in mind that the other galaxy S were better than the vibrant I blame Tmobile for that failure. The original galaxy S was far superior to the USA versions. I for one of am going to samsung Galaxy 2 for tmobile when it arrives. I will miss htc but I can always try something new.
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Jack_R1 said:
As some before me, I honestly prefer MT4G ROMs selection to the others.
Funny that HD2 comes up here. I was trying to find a decent fully functional ROM for HD2 and found nothing. The only fully functional Sense ROMs over there are Froyo - not a single Gingerbread Sense ROM that has hotspot/tethering or camcorder. Yes, I know, kernel source needed. But it isn't the question - look for how long we already have fully functional Sense 2.1 / 3.0, and they still don't! But there are at least 5-6, if not 10, different (half-functional) Sense 3.0 ROMs. Personally, I prefer quality over quantity.
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Bingo. Right on the spot there.
Plus it's HTC and supported by Zinx and Kmobs. Means we'll be amongst the first to receive ICS. I'll take that.
And as well as supported by the VU team as well. We'll be in good shape for quite some time. We have the hardware to be relevant for a long time.
Screw Sense period. I run MIUI and there is an updated Rom every Friday. If you call weekly updates slow then you will never be happy.
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You won't find it here, might be some time like you said-till unity team ports Sense 3.5. Evil has DS and VU, but Gazaian said he was working on it currently
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The crazy part is z3freak got it out just moments after I figured it out. I waited too long.
On the bright side, I do have HoneySense 8 Reboot edition waiting here. I broke WiFi and I wanna fix it before I send it out. Just not sure what use level files control WiFi (its a user level problem, not a kernel one).
Reboot edition is just Sense 2.1 with even more Honey, and sexy battery life (somehow manages to last 7 hours with 100 percent, followed by about 20 - 30 hours from 99 to 0 percent, and that's on the stock kernel.) Honeysense v9 will be the return of Sense 3.0.
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Bingo. Right on the spot there.
Plus it's HTC and supported by Zinx and Kmobs. Means we'll be amongst the first to receive ICS. I'll take that.
And as well as supported by the VU team as well. We'll be in good shape for quite some time. We have the hardware to be relevant for a long time.
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I say we got about 18 months of strength before this phone dies. the problem is that this is more of a US only phone, while phones like the DHD are international.
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CBConsultation said:
Screw Sense period. I run MIUI and there is an updated Rom every Friday. If you call weekly updates slow then you will never be happy.
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This will probably be my final ROM... it's always awesome and always recieving support.