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Been looking around on line and haven't seen anything confirming when we will get our update. Anyone got any good speculation.
spf2722 said:
Been looking around on line and haven't seen anything confirming when we will get our update. Anyone got any good speculation.
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The international version of the phone is supposed to have it by the end of September. This is in no way an indication as to when the other phones will. It would make sense that they would give it to the international version first, then roll it out at the same time for all of the US variants (vibrant, captivate, fascinate, Epic).
I'm certain Sprint users would be in an uproar of AT&T got it first.... and the same goes for other carriers.
International version is getting it 23rd
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/13/rumor-samsung-galaxy-s-to-get-froyo-around-23rd-september/
Don't know about US versions but Epic might take a bit longer because they still gotta make TW3 work..
Didn't sprint say that the Epic was for sure getting it this month? I thought I remember reading that somewhere?
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As much as my Epic is my precious baby, if Samsung does NOT have Froyo + bug fixes out by the end of this month, I will be returning my phone for a EVO.
Samsung STILL hasn't put out bug fixes for the Captivate or Vibrant, and I'm losing the small amount of faith i had in samsung.
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As much as my Epic is my precious baby, if Samsung does NOT have Froyo + bug fixes out by the end of this month, I will be returning my phone for a EVO.
Samsung STILL hasn't put out bug fixes for the Captivate or Vibrant, and I'm losing the small amount of faith i had in samsung.
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an epic user actually admits that samsung didn't fix captivate and vibrant. Someone was in the evo subforum saying that there were no problems with captivate or vibrant.
Also tbh, i wouldn't get my hopes up for the OFFICIAL release from samsung on froyo, but most likely someone will port another galaxy S update to the epic. So sort of like a custom rom with froyo running it.
Was told early to mid October today.
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Was told early to mid October today.
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October isn't cutting it for me...
We only have Samsung's word when it comes to updates that they will push. After Samsung publicly promised that Froyo would be out by September, now you say mid-October?
Of course the updates will roll out once everyone's 30 day return period is up.
Samsung didn't even *promise* for other bug fixes that the Galaxy phones have! I mean come on, have you seen the list of official problems with the Fascinate? How long do you think those problems will take to be fixed (if ever?)
I'm being a pessimist, but I would LOVE for Sammy to prove me wrong.
I have not heard anything about the Epic getting the update but I know Verizon is planning as of right now for an October 2.2 update.
I will bet now that clockwork is slowly getting ported over that a custom 2.2 rom is not very far away for the rooted memebers
Definitely like the Epic more than Evo so not even considering moving anywhere. Who doesn't like improvements to their gadget..
Despite all the haba-haba concerning the gps, mine works fine with gmaps and copilot, no back button issue and so forth. Now if I could just find the battery drain culprit I'll be even more satisfied. As I'm typing I can watch my battery drop from 74 to 72. The battery meter/gauge needs some calibrating I think and some power management would be welcome.
Hmm, what else..guess I'll be on ebay later today for some cheap xl batteries and such. But seriously, this phone blows me away..so good and responsive. Love it.
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... I mean come on, have you seen the list of official problems with the Fascinate? How long do you think those problems will take to be fixed (if ever?)
I'm being a pessimist, but I would LOVE for Sammy to prove me wrong.
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Being an Epic user why are you even worried about the Fascinate? Especially since most of its problems are due to the Verizon customizations and a lack of QA by Verizon.
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Being an Epic user why are you even worried about the Fascinate? Especially since most of its problems are due to the Verizon customizations and a lack of QA by Verizon.
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samsung is the one that issues the updates, not verizon. Since fascinate is a galaxy S phone, just like the epic, with common/similar problems, it might have the same treatment as the fascinate had (which means 1-2 updates, and then nothing).
People keep saying that galaxy s phone is where samsung "turns" their rep around, but i have yet to see any of the galaxy s phones being supported. Hence why i said there might not be a 2.2 update, but will most likely be a 2.2 rom modded for the epic.
Samsung hasn't even activated their MediaHub which, theoretically, will bring in a lot of revenue. I'm sure that is a higher priority for them than 2.2. I wouldn't expect our updates before they get that out the door. But then I'll start worrying.
Having a Nexus One And HD2 with android 2.2 i gotta say im disappointed by this phone. Not because of the hardware, Its great. I love throwing video files on it and watching them on the wonderful screen, i love the keyboard, pretty much no hardware complaints. But I been spoiled by android 2.2 and its enhancements.
I didnt think it would be a big deal when i got the phone, but i constantly find myself going back to my other phones for web browsing (sprint 3G is a JOKE!) and using my epic for video playing. I only had the phone a couple days and im gonna give it a better shot, but hopefully we see 2.2 by the beginning of october. If not i will sadly return the phone and pony up for a G2 or My touch HD.
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Despite all the haba-haba concerning the gps, mine works fine with gmaps and copilot, no back button issue and so forth. Now if I could just find the battery drain culprit I'll be even more satisfied.
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Just a shot in the dark but is your phone settings keeping the GPS sensor powered up all the time? I mean, the symptoms match.
MvP77 said:
Having a Nexus One And HD2 with android 2.2 i gotta say im disappointed by this phone. Not because of the hardware, Its great. I love throwing video files on it and watching them on the wonderful screen, i love the keyboard, pretty much no hardware complaints. But I been spoiled by android 2.2 and its enhancements.
I didnt think it would be a big deal when i got the phone, but i constantly find myself going back to my other phones for web browsing (sprint 3G is a JOKE!) and using my epic for video playing. I only had the phone a couple days and im gonna give it a better shot, but hopefully we see 2.2 by the beginning of october. If not i will sadly return the phone and pony up for a G2 or My touch HD.
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What enhancements? The UI is the same as 2.1. It's not going to change that much. Sure, the benchmarks will be much higher because of JIT, but performance isn't going to increase that much. I'm not sure what you mean by being "spoiled". Do you mean the apps2sd card feature that only about 1 in 20 apps have?
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What enhancements? The UI is the same as 2.1. It's not going to change that much. Sure, the benchmarks will be much higher because of JIT, but performance isn't going to increase that much. I'm not sure what you mean by being "spoiled". Do you mean the apps2sd card feature that only about 1 in 20 apps have?
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You also get the v8 engine in the browser which makes it much faster at rendering photos.
Btw, sprint's 3g I find to be much better than t-mobiles since you could walk 5 feet and be stuck on edge with them. Happens to my sister with n1 all the time. We are in an area that is 3g for the other 3 carriers but only edge for tmo.
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What enhancements? The UI is the same as 2.1. It's not going to change that much. Sure, the benchmarks will be much higher because of JIT, but performance isn't going to increase that much. I'm not sure what you mean by being "spoiled". Do you mean the apps2sd card feature that only about 1 in 20 apps have?
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Lol, no its more than that. Like I said I love the phone. But I miss things like flash 10. The new gmail and Google search. Other things I cant put my hands on at this moment.
Like I said, I didn't think it would be a big deal when I got the phone and its really not as I replaced Google search with vlingo and use skyfire for video (when I can get decent speeds on sprints so called 3G or 4G.)
Funny, as I type this I realized the problem I have is not so much 2.1 vs 2.2 (although 2.2 is just better) but more with sprints network. On 3g I only get an avg of .5kbs and on 4G I get around 2 saw as high as 5mbs. I avg atleast 4mbs on T-Mobile.
It makes a world of difference when browsing or checking out a quick video.
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You also get the v8 engine in the browser which makes it much faster at rendering photos.
Btw, sprint's 3g I find to be much better than t-mobiles since you could walk 5 feet and be stuck on edge with them. Happens to my sister with n1 all the time. We are in an area that is 3g for the other 3 carriers but only edge for tmo.
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Total opposite for me. I have 3g everywhere I go on T-Mobile. Maybe if I go 30miles outside the city to the country it would be like that. But I don't go outside major cities to often
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Samsung hasn't even activated their MediaHub which, theoretically, will bring in a lot of revenue. I'm sure that is a higher priority for them than 2.2. I wouldn't expect our updates before they get that out the door. But then I'll start worrying.
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Quick google search turned up several articles stating a release date of September 16th for the media hub: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368537,00.asp
Guys I need your opinions, I have had the EPIC since launch day, after to switching to sprint from a Nexus One on T-Mobile. Sure I like the keyboard, but find myself using it say 50 percent of the time and other 50 the onscreen. But what makes me want to return it for the Evo are these Reasons:
1. Android 2.2 – Already available on Evo
2. Custom Roms – Many already developed on Evo
3. HTC- I feel they push updates much faster, and work harder to polish there UI.
4. SAMSUNG- They already have gave us a Touch Wiz that is only a watered down version of the ones on the other Carriers, Cant change the icons on dock, No media or clock apps that the other Touch Wiz 3.0 phones have, and Finally UPDATES! They have announced 2.2 on there tablet and already has it working on it… Where is our 2.2?
5. CASES, putting a case on the Epic makes it look huge like a brick, and not very form fitting.
What’s your guys opinions? I mean I like the phone, im just so scared of it being left behind of the dust because Samsung wont fulfill there development promises, While HTC has a pretty good track record for moving updates fast.
I'm in EXACTLY the same boat.
Came from a Nexus on Tmo, to Sprint. Love the Epic dearly, but am still worried about it being supported by Samsung.
The Evo is a step down from the Epic to be honest, but a high powered device is nothing if the manufacturer doesn't continue to support it!
How are they not supporting it? They just did an update yesterday, and have already said Froyo IS coming. What more do you want?
The Evo is a step backwards as the Snapdragon CPU is slower, and the graphics are incredibly inferior to the PowerVR GPU inside the Epic.
I used to have an Evo, and when it first came out it had its own issues as well. I'd say you should stay on board at least until day 29, and then see how you feel about it.
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How are they not supporting it? They just did an update yesterday, and have already said Froyo IS coming. What more do you want?
The Evo is a step backwards as the Snapdragon CPU is slower, and the graphics are incredibly inferior to the PowerVR GPU inside the Epic.
I used to have an Evo, and when it first came out it had its own issues as well. I'd say you should stay on board at least until day 29, and then see how you feel about it.
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How the **** can Samsung and sprint release a phone that has a few major bugs:
1. After 24 hours (or less) the gps doesn't work unless you reboot (or use a program to flush data) the phone.
2. 3g uploads (99% of the country uses 3g) are capped at 150k
3. when you upload ANYTHING the phone studders like john the studderer on the howard stern show ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yBI8zdqLzw&feature=related )
I'm pretty pissed to be honest.
I came from a Evo. To tell you the truth, I prefer the Epic over the Evo. 30fps caps and a weak gpu. I couldn't even explain to you how bad it was, the Epic blows everything away in the Evo, besides the development of course.
Pros:
Evo development
Kickstand
Bigger screen? (I don't have a preference, but it's noticeably larger)
HTC Sense (I hate it, then love it.)
Works with any type of mic headset. <3
Cons:
In call sound is pretty low, I had to turn it all the way up and still couldn't hear other people well. (I had 2 Evo's, both were the same in call quality)
30 fps cap. It can be fixed with a kernel, still 30 fps cap is pretty low for such a great phone.
Gpu lags, games like N.o.v.a was playable, but not smooth as it is on the Epic.
The touch screen wasn't as accurate. Miss type a lot more on the Evo than the Epic.
No support for direct media playback. The epic does this flawlessly, I don't even have to convert videos.
The screen is washed out. The HTC Hero was noticeably more colorful.
Horrible wifi signal.
Not to bash on the Evo, I loved it, but it wasn't what I was looking for. If you enjoy a great development scene. I say go all in for it. It's a great phone. Though I left it for a better phone, Epic 4g.
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How are they not supporting it? They just did an update yesterday, and have already said Froyo IS coming. What more do you want?
The Evo is a step backwards as the Snapdragon CPU is slower, and the graphics are incredibly inferior to the PowerVR GPU inside the Epic.
I used to have an Evo, and when it first came out it had its own issues as well. I'd say you should stay on board at least until day 29, and then see how you feel about it.
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What more do i want? Since i had 2.2 on my nexus one in May, i want 2.2 on an epic. lol. And its the point, if they take this long for 2.2 now, will they even update it to the next version of android that Google will be updating q1 next year? And why the watered down Touch Wiz? Clock app and music player for example, have you seen the apps on Vibrant. We do not have touch wiz 3.0 its like 2.5ish. Your write about waiting tell day 29 though to have a strong decision. I probably just want to much to fast.
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I came from a Evo. To tell you the truth, I prefer the Epic over the Evo. 30fps caps and a weak gpu. I couldn't even explain to you how bad it was, the Epic blows everything away in the Evo, besides the development of course.
Pros:
Evo development
Kickstand
Bigger screen? (I don't have a preference, but it's noticeably larger)
HTC Sense (I hate it, then love it.)
Works with any type of mic headset. <3
Cons:
In call sound is pretty low, I had to turn it all the way up and still couldn't hear other people well. (I had 2 Evo's, both were the same in call quality)
30 fps cap. It can be fixed with a kernel, still 30 fps cap is pretty low for such a great phone.
Gpu lags, games like N.o.v.a was playable, but not smooth as it is on the Epic.
The touch screen wasn't as accurate. Miss type a lot more on the Evo than the Epic.
No support for direct media playback. The epic does this flawlessly, I don't even have to convert videos.
The screen is washed out. The HTC Hero was noticeably more colorful.
Not to bash on the Evo, I loved it, but it wasn't what I was looking for. If you enjoy a great development scene. I say go all in for it. It's a great phone. Though I left it for a better phone, Epic 4g.
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Thanks for this very strong opinion. It def helps the case for the epic.
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Guys I need your opinions, I have had the EPIC since launch day, after to switching to sprint from a Nexus One on T-Mobile. Sure I like the keyboard, but find myself using it say 50 percent of the time and other 50 the onscreen. But what makes me want to return it for the Evo are these Reasons:
1. Android 2.2 – Already available on Evo
2. Custom Roms – Many already developed on Evo
3. HTC- I feel they push updates much faster, and work harder to polish there UI.
4. SAMSUNG- They already have gave us a Touch Wiz that is only a watered down version of the ones on the other Carriers, Cant change the icons on dock, No media or clock apps that the other Touch Wiz 3.0 phones have, and Finally UPDATES! They have announced 2.2 on there tablet and already has it working on it… Where is our 2.2?
5. CASES, putting a case on the Epic makes it look huge like a brick, and not very form fitting.
What’s your guys opinions? I mean I like the phone, im just so scared of it being left behind of the dust because Samsung wont fulfill there development promises, While HTC has a pretty good track record for moving updates fast.
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Im in the same boat, although i havent officially left tmo yet. I did however return my epic 4G after 4 days and ordered an EVO, and im thinking of canceling that and just sticking with my HD2 and Nexus One. I just dont trust samsung and there update history. Yes they released the update yesterday but of course that was fast cause it generates money for them.
Besides the battery taking forever to charge, i really have no other issues with the phone. Its one of the best i ever owned, i just wish i had more confidence in samsung and i really hope they prove me wrong.
I will admit i will miss not having to convert movies for it, thats what i loved most about my N900.
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3. HTC- I feel they push updates much faster, and work harder to polish there UI.
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What?
I came from the HTC Hero. Ask any other Hero user how quickly HTC pushes out updates and how "polished" they are...
HTC doesn't do any better than any other company. The thing is, they have community support. The ONLY reason that the Hero was bearable was because of the dev community (which made the phone amazing).
Like several people have said, Samsung already put out an update for this phone (two, if you count the weird launch day update). They've promised 2.2 sometime this year (October was the last time frame I heard). The EVO didn't launch with 2.2 either, remember? The Nexus One is Google's baby and is going to get updates before any other phone. Every other phone has to have Froyo cleaned up for it.
Give Samsung a little bit of a chance. You know you'll regret it if you give up and the Epic gets 2.2 and blows everything else away.
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Guys I need your opinions, I have had the EPIC since launch day, after to switching to sprint from a Nexus One on T-Mobile. Sure I like the keyboard, but find myself using it say 50 percent of the time and other 50 the onscreen. But what makes me want to return it for the Evo are these Reasons:
1. Android 2.2 – Already available on Evo
Phone's only been out since August 31st
2. Custom Roms – Many already developed on Evo
My Epic feels snappier than an Evo on the best Cyanogen crack. This doesn't bother me one bit. Plus once again phone's only been out since August 31. ROMS are on the way
3. HTC- I feel they push updates much faster, and work harder to polish there UI.
I actually like TouchWiz and sideways scrolling, plus an update just came out for Epic
4. SAMSUNG- They already have gave us a Touch Wiz that is only a watered down version of the ones on the other Carriers, Cant change the icons on dock, No media or clock apps that the other Touch Wiz 3.0 phones have, and Finally UPDATES! They have announced 2.2 on there tablet and already has it working on it… Where is our 2.2?
Your 2.2 will be here when it gets here. "They have announced 2.2 on there tablet", and so what????? Did they ever say the Epic is NOT getting 2.2
5. CASES, putting a case on the Epic makes it look huge like a brick, and not very form fitting.
...and so is putting lipstick on a pig. The Epic has a slide out keyboard, which naturally adds to its girth. If you can't stand it like that in a case then go commando.
What’s your guys opinions? I mean I like the phone, im just so scared of it being left behind of the dust because Samsung wont fulfill there development promises, While HTC has a pretty good track record for moving updates fast.
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You buy a phone for the potential it has right now (and the Epic wins over the Evo performance wise, even on stock in a lot of areas), not what it may do nor not do eons from now. And besides 2.2 is set for the Epic. If you don't have the patience to wait for it then please take back the Epic and let someone else not be deprived of one in stock.
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What?
I came from the HTC Hero. Ask any other Hero user how quickly HTC pushes out updates and how "polished" they are...
HTC doesn't do any better than any other company. The thing is, they have community support. The ONLY reason that the Hero was bearable was because of the dev community (which made the phone amazing).
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I agree the community makes HTC phones great, and i think HTC gets that (or at least the point that they have a huge cult following of devs).
J3ff said:
How the **** can Samsung and sprint release a phone that has a few major bugs:
1. After 24 hours (or less) the gps doesn't work unless you reboot (or use a program to flush data) the phone.
2. 3g uploads (99% of the country uses 3g) are capped at 150k
3. when you upload ANYTHING the phone studders like john the studderer on the howard stern show ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yBI8zdqLzw&feature=related )
I'm pretty pissed to be honest.
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The DI07 update supposedly fixed the massive lag while uploading, at least in the gmail/email app.
I love the epic its the best phone i have ever had, but its a samsung. I hate the name samsung. HTC phones feel, look, and sound much more classier.
Keep the epic.
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The DI07 update supposedly fixed the massive lag while uploading, at least in the gmail/email app.
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Not for me. That and the ****ty radio are my two biggest gripes about the epic.
The evo has a lot of gripes. I had one since release.
1. Even with evo switch the fps is still inconsitant and the device feels laggy at times and thqts with 2.2. The epic on 2.1 is is already faster.
2. ****ty video and sub par camera software
3. Screen isn't as nice
The evo wins hands down on
1. Radio at least at this point is superior
2. Solid build as its not a slider
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I was hoping it would. However, take a picture, and upload it to anywhere (picasa, facebook, etc) it hasn't fixed it for me at all.
In all fairness, the Epic just came out on the 31 of August. I have both and love them both(the Evo is not activated at this time, strictly Wifi), but the Evo didn't get 2.2 until over 2 months sfter release...patience
I actually sold my evo and got the epic and I haven't looked back. Both phones are nice but just like some people recognizes the Epic's problems, one must also remember that when the Evo launched, it too had its share of problems...battery drainage being one them, screen seperation, screen tearing etc. The Evo also launched with 2.1.
It seems as though everybody want froyo and they want it now. I think you should just keep the epic and just wait it out for froyo. Because I have a feeling that once froyo hits our epics, everyone that left to run to the evo or some other phone will be having some big second thoughts.
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I actually sold my evo and got the epic and I haven't looked back. Both phones are nice but just like some people recognizes the Epic's problems, one must also remember that when the Evo launched, it too had its share of problems...battery drainage being one them, screen seperation, screen tearing etc. The Evo also launched with 2.1.
It seems as though everybody want froyo and they want it now. I think you should just keep the epic and just wait it out for froyo. Because I have a feeling that once froyo hits our epics, everyone that left to run to the evo or some other phone will be having some big second thoughts.
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One thing that I'm getting annoyed at is how it seems that it's ACCEPTABLE to release a phone with these issues.
All good points guys. I'm going to wait it out. This phonw is snapper than the nexus, and that will be the ame as epic. So it will pay off for me to hold on and wat for the development community to do what samsung probably will not. At least its not a moto phone right? We wouldn't be getting any updates tell we rioted on there building...
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You buy a phone for the potential it has right now (and the Epic wins over the Evo performance wise, even on stock in a lot of areas), not what it may do nor not do eons from now. And besides 2.2 is set for the Epic. If you don't have the patience to wait for it then please take back the Epic and let someone else not be deprived of one in stock.
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True that, well said +1
J3ff said:
How the **** can Samsung and sprint release a phone that has a few major bugs:
1. After 24 hours (or less) the gps doesn't work unless you reboot (or use a program to flush data) the phone.
2. 3g uploads (99% of the country uses 3g) are capped at 150k
3. when you upload ANYTHING the phone studders like john the studderer on the howard stern show ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yBI8zdqLzw&feature=related )
I'm pretty pissed to be honest.
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Nothing is perfect. If it were then everyone would buy the one perfect phone and there would be no competition. What do you want people to do, march on Sprint and Samsung and say. Samsung tear down this wall of ****ty product development. Or maybe have some common sense and look at the big picture. It is a cell phone, mind you a very expensive one, but a cell phone nonetheless. Look at the EVO, the screen is Capped at 30 FPS and it is just horrid, I understand you are pissed about all the cell phones and such, mostly the quality control. How did Apple miss the antenna miss-hap on the iPhone 4? Epic 4G's upload speeds are shoddy, at least this can be fixxed with a software update (hopefully!), and also the EVO's screen cap, they say they are looking into it. It seems you are out to get the world and just genuinly pissed at everyone and everything, so there will be no convincing you otherwise. But man, it can't be healthy to be so upset about something fairly arbitrary in life. And I understand your view on the GPS and Upload Speeds. They are unacceptable, and I will be making a phone call to Sprint AND Samsung because I to believe that we should be getting more for our buck, but I also believe these can fixxed and addressed accordingly. I have had an HTC Hero, I love that phone, but I also got it a year after its release so I didnt have any problems with it, I like HTC a lot and was going to buy an EVO but got sick of waiting. I think the wait times for those phones are just insane, then I saw the epic and I really like Samsung products so I picked up my Epic and love it. Because of the physical keyboard there is some give and it feels more cheap but I realize this is due to the fact that it needs to give (the keyboard cant be to tight is what I mean). Some say this is not acceptable, I realize it is needed. My point is that phones arent perfect, and I get irritated but not so upset as to swear and just be genuinly pissed.
All I have to say is stick in there and just have fun!
Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?
The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.
Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~
Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
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Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.
So, I have been playijg around with my new Nexus S for a few hours and have everything loaded up like before. It's an awesome phone, just not surs ifbit is a $500 upgrade from the Nexus One that I currently own. My biggest issue is the limilted memory... with 12 gigs of music, my work files and others- I think I will run out soon, I am guessing they come out with a 32 gig before long. I will hang on to this and see how my N1 performs with GB. I really don't need a front facing camera or NFC chip. But I must admit, this thing is great and really flies! Anyone else having second thought?
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones.
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Yeah, I don't really see the Google Walled Garden. You'll have to explain.
I am almost positive there will be a Nexus-M by Motorola, they really want in on the Nexus name I have heard. Might be called the Nexus-3.0 and released after Honeycomb comes out, but that's just rumors I have heard. I thought Moto was gonna get the Nexus-2 before Samsung got involved, so I am sure they are working on a Nexus phone for release in 2011.
Right now, today, the Nexus-S is the best Android phone on the market, if you want pure Android, with no carrier bloatware, and no branding crap like Sense or Touchwiz, and you just need to root this phone to make it bad ass, no real need for a custom rom like C 6.1.
I would not want the first dual core phone to market anyways, let them work out the kinks and bugs first, and I'll take the second round of dual core phones. Will give them time to really optimize Android for dual core after the 2nd gen is out.
I think the OP was asking if you have actually bought the phone are you having second thoughts.
To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise. Gingerbread is coming to the Nexus One anyway.
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To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's hardly the same thing. Sure, Google may have taken out a couple features that you find important, but they are definitely not controlling anything. These decisions ONLY affect the Nexus S. The MANY other Android phones are not affected. So if you want a trackball and expandable memory, you can very well have that. Just buy a different phone. Apple on the other hand, prevents this freedom since the iPhone is the only available iOS phone.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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This is a forum for people to share their opinions. If you really like the Nexus S, you shouldn't get mad if others don't. Go buy one, enjoy it and move on. But try to understand that different people use their phones differently.
For me, the lack of SD storage is a deal breaker. Like the OP, I have easily over 12GB of music that I load on my phones. I don't want to carry an MP3 player on top of my cellphone. Nexus S's lack of SD slot leaves me with very limited space for my other data (work emails, apps, pictures and clips that I shoot, and so on). Having said that, I could see how this wouldn't be an issue for someone who doesn't fill up their phone.
Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the hardware is not a noticeable step ahead from the Nexus One, or the myTouch 4G. The S has a 1GHz processor and so do a whole slew of phones by Samsung and other manufacturers.
Thirdly, the Nexus S doesn't utilize TMO's HSPA+ network. Again, this may not be a big deal for somebody who doesn't do heavy data on their phone. But I do, and I happen to live in an area where TMO's "4G" network works extremely well. I definitely consider going from HSPA+ back to "3G" a downgrade. You may not share that view...
Basically, the only selling point for the S is Gingerbread. Based on certain information I have, the MT4G is highly likely to get a 2.3 update on the other side of the year. A minor OS update isn't enough to convince me to buy this phone.
As for your "upgrade" comment, technology is expected to get better over time. It's just the way it works. Google doesn't need to hold a press conference event to tell us whether this phone is an upgrade over a phone released nearly a year ago. That is expected to be the case.
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I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.
Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower
Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.
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Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware.
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.
Probably going to return mine
This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.
I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.
Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.
Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
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If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.
This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.
I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.
shawn1224 said:
... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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LOL I'm writing that one down.
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
Props on signing off without a list of dumb reasons on why you are returning it. You feel like you don't need it right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Good luck with your new phone.
me want but me no really need....
man i was itching to buy this phone. ive been holding back my compulsion to buy this phone but its geting harder and harder.
just got to keep teling myself that its not a need but a want. got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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I'm gonna end up doing the same... I want an Atrix bad, but I am curious when a true 4G (LTE) android phone comes out. May have to wait to jump until then.
FLAC Vest said:
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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Sailing in the same boat, leaning towards selling/returning
I'm probably returning mine within the next few days. It's a great phone but I'm just not feeling it. A lot of the apps that I use often are just more mature and have more features on iOS. It doesn't help that the bootloader is locked and I won't get to enjoy the Cyanogen ROM's I liked so much when I was using the Nexus One. Probably the final straw is also that I am not in a market that has the enhanced backhaul completed yet so my speeds are just as fast on my iPhone 4, which also natively supports HSUPA.
I'll be looking for another Android device as it gets closer to summer.
I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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Yes. If you return within 30 days you get the upgrade back on that line.
it's great I'd you want to try ever phone and you can just keep switching over and over within a month.
You might have to pay a little for restocking or something (and the phone but that can be made up with return)
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I was thinking about returning not because I did not need it but because of the random reboots. But I got that fixed today by calling AT&T and have them fix my account. I have the captivate but this phone is beast, I no longer have to worry about widgets taken too much memory, application running that needs to be close, and phone not performing because of too many things running.
Now I will take a lock phone that can run all my apps with no issues then a phone I can customized but still having issues with performance and memory. So at this moment this is definitely a keeper until something better (which I think won't happen until the christmas holiday). Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Read again or call your resailers, there will be two version one with 850/1900 that will come after the Euro one. I don't think AT&T will be carrying it. I thought the same thing at first but I believe the specs from Samsung are misleading. Let's wait and see but I will not hold my breath.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
See I've had the Captivate and loved it and Android and was forced to get rid of it due to it's battery life. It would last like 6-7 hours not even joking. But this Atrix is a beast. I took it off the charger about 8:30 am and I have 30% remaining now and im a heavy user of everything. Streaming music using audio galaxy through my jawbone while connected to wi fi for hours at work. Battery life got me loving android again.
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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I'd really like to believe that, but...it seems pretty obvious (to me anyway) that the Inspire and Atrix were gimped as to not knock iPhone as at&t's flagship. There's just no other explanation. iPhone is still at&t's top-seller.
I had been itching to buy the Atrix for over 5 months (when it was known as the Tegra 2 Olympus) but now, with the locked bootloader and the complete uselessness of the front camera and the fact it won't get Ice Cream till December'11, I'm thinking dual-core won't officially matter till Google releases a Nexus with it.
Who wants to develop for dual-core anyway when 95% of the phones on the market are single-core? If only stupid moto left the bootloader unsigned, I could have relied on XDA to deliver Ice Cream when it arrives in May/June.
Sad.
A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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I've been using the Iphones since 2008 and I think some of the issues that people that are coming from an Iphone are having is that it just works out of the box. I was use to a device just working and with the atrix there is a lot of setup time. The contacts are cumbersome and it pulls them from everywhere without giving you the options clearly to select where you want the contacts to come from. The android market is not as mature as the app store. If I get an app from the app store, I know it will work just fine with my phone, that's not always the case with android.
Despite all the hate people have for apple, their closed app store prevents a lot of things from happening. Their device works just right out of the box and a lot of end-user's prefer that and even some of us techies.
I work with PC's all day long and to be honest the last thing I want to do is work on anything computer related when I get home. When I got the atrix, it felt like I was working. It took some time to sort out all of the issues and I still have some that linger on, yet whenever I got an iphone it just worked. I plugged it in and it synced everything and it just worked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the iphone is the best phone out there. I personally think iOS has grown stale and prefer the android notifications over apples, and let's not get into multitasking... I know android is better at that. The problem is that you have too much fragmentation and that doesn't sit well with most people.
Now you mentioned updates and that's another issue that android has... google doesn't update all the phones, it has to go through the manufacturer and carrier. That, in my opinion is a huge mistake, it causes too many delays and a lot of phones are never even updated. So, while some of the issues can be fixed with an update the question is, will they? The iphone crowd knows for them that it will because most bugs are dealt with through minor updates and then you get the major updates.
The android platform has a lot to offer, I just think google gave away too much control to the makers of these handsets. I think a lot of issues would be alleviated if google just took control back and just released the updates themselves.
I'm keeping the phone and so is my wife, she really loves the customization of it and the widgets. However, I understand where a lot of people are coming from, it's hard to justify spending money on a phone that just doesn't work out of the box.
As for the bootloader, yes apple has everything locked down. A jailbreak is all you need on the iphone. You don't need custom kernels because it's all optimized for apples hardware. You can find a ton of mods as well just by opening up cydia on your phone. The hacking community for the iphone is pretty active, which brings me to another point... I've been looking through the dev forums and most of what I see is dev bickering. I doubt we will see any solid development for the atrix when you have devs to busy trying to prove you can't do something and the others trying to argue with them about it. That's just a waste of time, drop the bullcrap and collaborate, you really never know what you may find.
I was very excited about the atrix, but the more I read those forums the more I knew this phone was doomed.
/rant off