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does anybody have a major problem with hero lagging. It is really annoying. I was wondering if rooting the hero can fix this problem. If not do you guys think the 2.1 update will fix it.
What ROM are you running? What apps do you normally have running in the background? Are you using a Task Killer that automatically kills apps on a set time frame? Have you tried doing a factory reset/wipe to see if it makes a difference? And finally, where do you see the lag the most? Is it in a particular application, or are you judging the "lagginess" based on moving back and forth from your home screens in SenseUI?
Answering ALL of these questions will help us understand what you're seeing a little better. Your question is a little vague, and your answers will probably help you get some more support from folks on here.
Thanks!
My phone was laggy too. I rooted it and put the fresh rom on it and I saw a big improvement in overall performance. Still not as fast as my old iphone 3gs, but I would never go back. I also don't use task manager anymore. It always runs in the background and drains your battery faster.
I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
tyrnight said:
I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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Yeah handcent killed me, made the phone not just a dog, but a wounded dog born with 2 legs. 10x worse than the stock hero app, which is bad.
I'm running handcent, but I haven't noticed any specific slowdowns from it. It can take a while to load the main handcent screen when you have lots and lots of texts in there, but I usually clear them out when I get over 100 or so anyway.
Check to see that you have the most recent version of Handcent. I think I read that there was a performance bug related to their special "with Christmas animations" holiday release (that has since been fixed).
Also, remember to clear the boot-cache directory and reboot after upgrading apps ('rm -r /data/boot-cache/*'; reboot). The Hero has problems with caching apps after upgrades (so you aren't actually running the upgrade version). I have no idea if this was fixed in the newer ROMS. I'm running Fresh and still do it, as it only takes a sec (if you have the android-sdk and root set up).
Turning off HandCent popup notifications resulted in a substantial performance increase for me. Which is good, as I really like the features HC adds (such as voice-to-text).
I had the latest version and it was always cleared out sms wise. and I never used popup notifications.. they were annoying.. and I just got a fresh replacement of the Hero (warrantee) and its still on stock rom and Handcent still killed it.. in one day..
i have not rooted, pure stock phone. only app i think runs in background is email and loopt
I notice the lag from everything to sense UI to the clock taking 2-3 secs to update to my contacts scrolling, to text message lag, to calling even lags. like anything and everything can lag.
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
on your location settings turn off "network location" then reboot..your lag will be gone...and make sure you have a task manager installed too and end your apps so they take over your processor
Task managers are a waste of time.
Sawawa said:
Task managers are a waste of time.
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I agree with this statement.
Sawawa said:
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
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This is very true. I was running the 2.1 build from here the last few days (thought I had to revert due to missing some texts and voicemail) and it's much speedier. It uses the HTC keyboard, but it's much faster in its response, almost instantaneous. The location bug really does suck up a lot of CPU time.
Also, maybe its just me, but I think it's important to remember the kind of device we're using, the hardware involved, and what you're asking it to do. It's not like you're walking around with a quad core CPU and 4GB of RAM in your pocket, but it seems a lot of people think it should respond as if that's what it has. It's a phone, yes, and it should be able to do phone stuff quickly if possible, but look at all it can and is doing. If you need absolute speed, get a dumb phone that can't browse the web, play games, or do just about anything. It'll run just fine.
handcent never made my phone lag. The only thing that made my phone lag was HTC's battery widget. Damn thing slowed my phone down so I uninstalled it and phone is running back fast again. I still use task manager because I do notice once to many apps are open it lags. Don't care what anyone says it happens on my phone. I do have a lot of applications on ignore though.
Try disabling Location services.
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I used to wholeheartedly disagree with this statement, until I read a kickass article explaining how Android actively manages memory.
Now, I also agree with this statement 100%. I don't even use my paid task manager app anymore. :/
I have so far only deleted Rosie.apk and all of the HTC widgets.
I do not like the AOSP look of say... DarchDroid, I like the HTC touches here and there, but without Sense UI.
I'm getting Force Closes now. I can't find the apk associated with the FC'es.
HTC Widget Download Manager (process com.htc.RosieUtility)
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process com.htc.RosieUtility
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im not sure, but didnt you just answer your own question? im probably wrong, but i think thats it. use root explorer and go on a deleting spree...
I wish it were that easy! lol
I searched all the directories for that file (com.htc.rosieutility) and its nowhere to be found.
I actually searched for *rosie* and all it came up with was:
/sdcard/rosie_scroll
/sdcard/download/Rosie_Icons.zip
Jesus ive searched the phone high and low. I am so ****ing lost. I dont know wtf is going on here.
was your search global? it seems you only searched your sd card...
why not just leave rosie and use helix? seems to me itd be the most stable.
The rom without rosie is very stable.. The only issue you will have is when you boot up, youll have 1 force close. After that the only time it comes up is if you are downloading something from the market. Which it doesnt even always come up.
For the most part the force close doesnt even mean much. I just got used to it being there. I never cared to look into it. But i will now.
Edit: also comes up when uninstalling something. but i dont do that much
Have you tried deleting
HtcAddProgramWidget.apk
hey fyi ic3 is completely aosp, and has fixed the utility issue. check his thread out, ppl seem satisfied.
Im pretty sure i figured it out
delete these
HtcAddProgramWidget.apk <-- If you havent already
com.android.launcher2.apk <-- I think this is what did it
I read the ice rom thread and all he did was use an older version of Launcher, so I just deleted it and rebooted without getting a force close (first time its worked)
I think that did it!
Sweet!
Yeah, I was getting the one FC at boot, and sometimes in the market, but I was also getting it while in the browser, sometimes in People, other times just at random.
I am using Helix.
So far so good.
Thank you!!!
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hey fyi ic3 is completely aosp, and has fixed the utility issue. check his thread out, ppl seem satisfied.
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I tried ic3....
I'm just not a fan of completely AOSP. I like the touch of HTC apps here and there.
I'm slowly getting FreshToast exactly how I want it.
Its super fast, and getting more and more stable even with JIT.
The only other thing I'm trying to narrow down is this memory leak type issue.
Sometimes with NO active running services or apps, the available RAM will drop as low as 55MB, then withing a few minutes I'll check it and it'll go back up to 70-80MB. Doesn't seem to affect performance too much, and I'm COMPLETELY taking a stab in the dark here but maybe has something to do with JIT?
I dunno. I'm going to try and disable JIT and see if the available RAM stays in the 60-70 range.
I just removed the HTC Mms.apk with the AOSP Mms.apk to try and cut back on keyboard lag.
I tried going with the AOSP/standard keyboard... I think ive just been typing on the HTC_IME keyboard for way too long that my muscle memory has been trained to it. I keep screwing up with the vanialla keyboard. Also the spell correct doesn't seem to work as well as it does the HTC keyboard. I have no vibration or sound, as well as no key preview to try and cut back on lag.
It seems that the actual spell correction is what is lagging the keyboard down so bad. If I turn off all spell correct/auto complete it seems to be much snappier.
poor_red_neck said:
I tried ic3....
I'm just not a fan of completely AOSP. I like the touch of HTC apps here and there.
I'm slowly getting FreshToast exactly how I want it.
Its super fast, and getting more and more stable even with JIT.
The only other thing I'm trying to narrow down is this memory leak type issue.
Sometimes with NO active running services or apps, the available RAM will drop as low as 55MB, then withing a few minutes I'll check it and it'll go back up to 70-80MB. Doesn't seem to affect performance too much, and I'm COMPLETELY taking a stab in the dark here but maybe has something to do with JIT?
I dunno. I'm going to try and disable JIT and see if the available RAM stays in the 60-70 range.
I just removed the HTC Mms.apk with the AOSP Mms.apk to try and cut back on keyboard lag.
I tried going with the AOSP/standard keyboard... I think ive just been typing on the HTC_IME keyboard for way too long that my muscle memory has been trained to it. I keep screwing up with the vanialla keyboard. Also the spell correct doesn't seem to work as well as it does the HTC keyboard. I have no vibration or sound, as well as no key preview to try and cut back on lag.
It seems that the actual spell correction is what is lagging the keyboard down so bad. If I turn off all spell correct/auto complete it seems to be much snappier.
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it sounds like compcache is working
So is the memory increase a result of compcache compressing the data to the ramz swap space? Or the opposite? Ive been reading on google code about compcache and of course, I cant wrap my redneck head around it.
I seem to def. like this better than autokiller. ROMs with autokiller seem to kill active running apps too much, especially with the browser if there were a few flash ads on the site. It would just randomly close.
The only thing I'm doing now is going through the com.htc.resources.apk and changing the green to blue. I'm hoping its easy enough of just editing the pngs to blue. Im sure though, somewhere Im going to have to edit some xml files somewhere that have a color hex associated with it. Im just not a fan of green, and am getting sick of it hah. I like blue
is there any way you can compile a signed update that i can flash, that is exactly what you have, Fresh Toast 1.1 with no Sense and JIT enabled..?
I'd be more than happy to, if I knew how to!
I assume it would just be an update script, but i've never done that before.
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I'd be more than happy to, if I knew how to!
I assume it would just be an update script, but i've never done that before.
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Just make a nandroid of your rom.. Dont include the ext partition. And maybe delete some personal stuff. lol
You could make a nandroid.. Then boot up again, delete all personal stuff and sign out of everything. Make another nandroid (the one you can send to people). And then flash back to your nandroid of all your personal stuff back on it.
I think it would be easier to just make a tutorial as I didn't really do anything that hard. Just removed some files here, replaced some there, and re-configure some stuff.
As a matter of fact it may be easier to just zip a bunch of files, and make a batch file to do it, as pretty much everything was done through ADB.
I don't like the idea of nandroid, wouldn't want to accidents include some paid app, or risk personal data getting in there.
Actually I'm going to read up on making update zips. Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
I did something that was common sense troubleshooting but I didn't think of it earlier. I damn near uninstalled every downloaded program I had and even some of my regular apps I use. A program, or combination of programs, was causing the phone to stutter and majorly lag. I'm talking hit the clear key in the notification bar and maybe ten seconds later it would clear after freezing for a few seconds. Once again, the problem was user error. I was too stupid to think it was actually something I did. I bet if I test video it won't give me problems like before. I don't know what the culprit was but I'm sure I might run into it again. It would be good to know which program isn't behaving.
when you change your wallpaper, how long does it take after you select a new wallpaper for the new one to save? Mine seems to take longer than it should, maybe 4-5 seconds. Is that normal? Seems like my Droid Incredible did it really quick.
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when you change your wallpaper, how long does it take after you select a new wallpaper for the new one to save? Mine seems to take longer than it should, maybe 4-5 seconds. Is that normal? Seems like my Droid Incredible did it really quick.
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Both my Epic and Evo take a few seconds so I wouldn't put too much stock in it.
As for the OP, I would try reinstalling your essential apps one by one and letting the phone run a bit with each to see specifically which app is the culprit.
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I did something that was common sense troubleshooting but I didn't think of it earlier. I damn near uninstalled every downloaded program I had and even some of my regular apps I use. A program, or combination of programs, was causing the phone to stutter and majorly lag. I'm talking hit the clear key in the notification bar and maybe ten seconds later it would clear after freezing for a few seconds. Once again, the problem was user error. I was too stupid to think it was actually something I did. I bet if I test video it won't give me problems like before. I don't know what the culprit was but I'm sure I might run into it again. It would be good to know which program isn't behaving.
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I knew something was making your phone slower than normal. Glad to hear you got it figured out.
I just noticed that beautiful Widgets, a few keyboards, and gingerbread keyboard were sluggish or maybe causing slow down. I found gingerkeyboard to be much quicker and a little smaller than the other. I'm going to try to look for apps that get high ratings from a lot of users and are the smallest in size when compared to the others. So far my research is working good. There was a ringtone download program that was very popular and had high ratings that I downloaded, got what I wanted, then uninstalled it. It wasn't behaving itself very well.
I am just curious if anyone else has had a similar issue and if rooting it would resolve my problem. When my phone is "asleep" and I press the unlock button it almost never lights up immediately. Sometimes it will take 5+ seconds to light up before I am able to slide to unlock.
I am not sure if rooting the device and removing/freezing motoblur and all of the other bloatware would make it run better. I for sure want to root it in hopes that the phone will be less laggy. I think the inspire and captivate run smoother which is somewhat disappointing.
anyone else have a similar complaint or a way to fix it?
I had this problem with 1.26.
Flash firmware to stock 1.26, and update to 1.52 and you should be fine.
Rooting will not help.. Could be apps running in the background or widgets, idk.
Any improvement immediately after phone is fully re-booted?
Edit: I just realized you may not have AT&T...
Hey thanks. It is an at&t atrix and is currently running on 4.1.57. I dont think it "wakes" faster after a reboot. Sometimes it wakes right after I click it, but sometimes I can push the button and wait 5-10 seconds... I assumed rooting it and removing all of the garbage would fix the problem haha!
Actually, I would root anyway, so you can remove a lot of that stock Motoblur stuff, and keep it out of memory (by freezing it). It certainly can't hurt, and it might contribute to a speedier overall experience. Replacing the stock launcher definitely helps in that regard. Launcher Pro, and Go Launcher Ex as a close second, make using the phone so much smoother. Also, use the auto-close task list in the task manager, it could help to improve your problem if it's related to having too many things running.
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Actually, I would root anyway, so you can remove a lot of that stock Motoblur stuff, and keep it out of memory (by freezing it). It certainly can't hurt, and it might contribute to a speedier overall experience. Replacing the stock launcher definitely helps in that regard. Launcher Pro, and Go Launcher Ex as a close second, make using the phone so much smoother. Also, use the auto-close task list in the task manager, it could help to improve your problem if it's related to having too many things running.
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thank you,
I would like to root my phone to remove that stuff. I dont use any of it (especially motoblur.) I am currently using ADW as a launcher. I like some of the things you can change with it. Is Launcher Pro better? I have gone into the stock task manager to "end" applications, but I will take a look at the auto close feature. Maybe I will add everything BUT my widgets to that category. I have 1 widget per page...... Not sure if that is a no, no lol! 5 pages: beautiful widgets (weather,) pandora, double twist, mini stocks, and my power toggles. Should I not have this many widgets? I am running flickie wallpapers so I dont have a live background.... I think beautiful widgets is the only thing really using a great deal of CPU usage (around 5mb) which isnt much.
I have the same problem.
I am rooted on 1.57 and it did not fix my problem.
I was using gingerblur on 1.26 and the problem was still there.
I do not have titanium pro, so I haven't tried freezing motoblur.
if u are using setCPU and undervolt this could be the problem if you leave iddle sometime and wake the cpu could take a little more, try disabling setCPU profile on screen off (if u have it)
Flash the SBF back to 1.26 and see if you have the problem before installing launcher etc... Regardless, I would install gingerblur since it rox.
Same thing on mine, no change between 4.1.26 and 4.1.57. No change between rooted or unrooted. I've just gotten used to it, and it never takes more than 3 or so seconds for me. I hit the button as i'm pulling it out of my pocket, and it's usually on by the time i have it in view.
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i actually notice the same thing
currently on rooted 4.1.57
the lock screen wake up time seems slow...
its funny cause the exact same problem occurs on custom ROMs on the HD2 but I thought a real stock android device wouldnt have this problem...
it's a little bit annoying for me, but im slowly getting used to it. Although i would love for it to be fixed cause I've seen the unlock screens on the Nexus S and Galaxy S and they come on instantly when you push the power button
Remove the Bloat
What would you suggest removing, and is it just an uninstall?
I have it rooted, just dont know what I should uninstall or remove.
Thanks
I rooted my phone a few months back and it's slow switching between a few screens, mostly from calling or web browsing back to home. Painfully slow, sometimes up to a minute. It's always been like this and I just want to know if there's steps I can take to speed it up or if it's just a memory problem. I used Cyanogen 6.1 to upgrade to android 2.2.1
Baseband62.505.20.17u_2.22.19.26I
Kernel 2.6.35-9cyanogenmod [email protected]#2
Build number - FRG83
G1's are just slow!
Try keeping it lite. Uninstalling apps, keeping the essential ones, app2sd?
Don't have loads of widgets on your homescreen.
Task manager, i recommend ATK.
Hope this helps.
chitin said:
I rooted my phone a few months back and it's slow switching between a few screens, mostly from calling or web browsing back to home. Painfully slow, sometimes up to a minute. It's always been like this and I just want to know if there's steps I can take to speed it up or if it's just a memory problem. I used Cyanogen 6.1 to upgrade to android 2.2.1
Baseband62.505.20.17u_2.22.19.26I
Kernel 2.6.35-9cyanogenmod [email protected]#2
Build number - FRG83
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If you are up to it, flash different ROM. There are ROM out there that is lightweight and fast. My personal favorites is SuperAosp. Currently they just released SuperAosp 6.0 that is fast and also best on bettery life.
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G1's are just slow!
Try keeping it lite. Uninstalling apps, keeping the essential ones, app2sd?
Don't have loads of widgets on your homescreen.
Task manager, i recommend ATK.
Hope this helps.
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Well, it's slow compared to what's out there, but it isn't "one minute to switch apps" slow for me... without a task manager or auto-killer. Every time I wipe I install nine apps from Market, and ten from SD card. They may sit back and be inactive if I've opened them, but they don't just all run at once and slow down to "one minute each switch"...
I'd agree with the widgets on homescreen though. I tend to avoid them out of preference, but they 'can' eat memory faster than we can down a beer. I don't have anything locked in memory except Messaging. Depending on what I'm switching from, it doesn't usually take that long to switch. If it's something like Skyfire -then no matter what I'm doing, the G1 just dies and Skyfire force closes pretty quickly. It just cannot handle such a memory hog. If I play SNesoid, I never see a force close and it takes seconds to switch. I don't fully understand it, but consider how resource heavy your apps are.
Seems to me you have swap enabled and now it's swapping ...
Try to run without swap / compcache and see if this helps.
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Seems to me you have swap enabled and now it's swapping ...
Try to run without swap / compcache and see if this helps.
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Reducing the widgets helped a lot. It's very usable now until I need to upgrade to 4G. Thanks for the recommendation. What is swap enabled?
Might I recommend trying a different ROM? On my Samsung Vibrant, I had stock TouchWiz and it went slow as hell, I tried another custom ROM and it works great. Much much MUCH faster, trust me get a different ROM, ask around for the best most light weight one, Super AOSP w what someone recommended here? Try that.
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Def check froyobylazlo 5.2 you'll need the new radio/spl hack by ezterry but its soo worth it. Auto memory manager helps out greatly too cuz its based off androids internal tasker instead of just another program made from someone else. With that app your g1 will fly even on default settings, on extreme....lol thank me later
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My G1 got slower recently, but not one minute slower. I've been really good about not installing anything except I configured titanium backup to run automatically, but the home screen has been crashing a lot too for some reason.
All I did was create three shortcuts for calling and texting someone. Those aren't the same as widgets are they?