Any GOOD image viewer? - Desire Themes and Apps

As I'm rooted and using a custom ROM I don't have the HTC Sense image viewer.
And the froyo one I don't really like because it only organizes the photos by date and when you zoom in it becomes pixelated.
Want an image viewer which will organize by name and will be clear when zoomed into a picture.
Thank you.

Gallery should be the thing.

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Gallery should be the thing.
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That's the one I'm saying is **** lol.

Since I don't get such pixelation in any viewer, I'm not sure what'll work for you. JustPictures! is another viewer, and, I like it.
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Stock gallery has the confirmed blurry/pixelated issue when zooming in all the way. Incidentally, this seems to be related to the 24MB managed heap restriction, which seems a bit low especially when google coders say you shouldn't use native heap allocation too much.
Anyway, You are right, I'm lost too without htc sense gallery and there is no way to port it at the moment. I've found that when I need to zoom all the way in a photo I can use pictureviewer, which has no navigation though.
PS justpictures sorta works, however it's the slowest and most choppy gallery I've seen on android

Definitely no slowness, pixelation (etc) here. Gallery app is the only sluggish one for me. Maybe check you have enough mem space free before opening the app... Known to slow down most apps and make them sluggish on Android.
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Definitely no slowness, pixelation (etc) here. Gallery app is the only sluggish one for me. Maybe check you have enough mem space free before opening the app... Known to slow down most apps and make them sluggish on Android.
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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
This is also confirmed by Google, both in eclair and froyo.
This is also completely unrelated to the quantity of free memory, but rather by the fixed limit of memory allocation in the managed heap. I can post the link of code.google if you want to read a very technical discussion about it.

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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
This is also confirmed by Google, both in eclair and froyo.
This is also completely unrelated to the quantity of free memory, but rather by the fixed limit of memory allocation in the managed heap. I can post the link of code.google if you want to read a very technical discussion about it.
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Your exactly right and you know what I exactly mean.
Because in the HTC Sense picture viewer you can quite clearly see the difference when you zoom into the pictures compared to the stock android gallery and you can zoom in more with the HTC Sense picture viewer.
I think i would be fine though if in the stock gallery you could at least sort them by name and size. Only sorts it by date, quite annoying.

I might be wrong but I think the issue was even worse on 2.1

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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
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I read fine the first time. You've misunderstood me.
1. The "etc" meant in reference to any issue you mentioned including "slow/choppy/blurry"; they're all non-issues for me on both viewers - Sense and JustPictures! - except the stock Gallery app. That's sluggish and blurry, which as you correctly mention, is well known for the latter.
2. Except for testing, I never need to put high def images to view on the phone, ever, and the phone taken images give me no problem viewing in any of the 3 apps. AFAICT, only high quality pics are problematic in the stock Gallery app for me. I'll test more on more free time.
3. I didn't mention the blurry stock Gallery zoom could possibly be fixed by more free memory, but to your "most choppy/slowest viewer" remark for JustPictures!. Android routinely performs dirt slow for any app loading a lot of data when the memory space is sub ~45MB.
4. As to the discussion links re the stock Gallery limitations; I've already seen them priorly.
Late Edit: thankfully, you linked the crappy browser image quality pic I complained about there too: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6021
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(aaargh, damn tapatalk lost 20 rows I was writing here...) hehe to sum up
- we miss HTC gallery
- stock android gallery is a problem for me when reading small text in big pictures or details in landscapes. Sometimes it's not very crisp anyway when zoomed in.
- justpictures is slow on my overclocked desire, plenty of memory free . Don't know, some market comments say the same. I also have some problems with pinch zoom. Shame because it looks nice.
Ps: I'm starting to hate tapatalk! Hehe
Edit: by the way, increasing heap size in build. Prop does not help

I think I've found a way to make justpictures bearable (for me)
Small thumbnails, no tilt, portrait mode. The first time you go through your photos it will be a pain (stops and shutters all the time) but subsequently, while not very smooth, can be used.
Pinch zoom is still a bit of a mistery to me: once you start zooming it's quite hard if not impossible to change photo by sliding.
I don't know if it's stock behaviour but I also can't maintain the max level of zoom and keep panning, as soon as I take the finger off it zooms out.. .

I've finished more thorough testing now.
You are right. The Sense viewer zoom level quality and picture sharpness is by far the better of the three viewers. I've tried with up-to 8MB and 8MP images. A 24MB and a 26MB high resolution image fails any level of zoom on all viewers though.
Re the Gallery viewer; I don't fully understand how their heap size explanation holds across all test cases when I have 192KB ~1000x1500 JPEGs giving the same poor zoom quality even at a low zoom level.
Re JustPictures!; during testing I could not replicate any of your earlier mentioned issues leaving it all stock... until I by chance cleared the cache. Ever since, it has been slug slow loading/navigating, choppy and >2MB pics as well as high resolution pics render blurry. You can zoom in more than the Gallery viewer and retain fidelity but no where close to the acuity the Sense viewer achieves. It seems inconsistent and unstable. You can check it out, but I take this recommendation back.
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andycted said:
Pinch zoom is still a bit of a mistery to me: once you start zooming it's quite hard if not impossible to change photo by sliding.
I don't know if it's stock behaviour but I also can't maintain the max level of zoom and keep panning, as soon as I take the finger off it zooms out.. .
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I've never been able to change image while zoomed, and panning while zoomed always resets the zoom for me. Understandably, not ideal at all.
The album sort/view options are the only current advantages it holds above the Sense viewer for me.
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Yup, justpictures looks ok at first and they are updating often, but it's quite messed up in some stuff deep down. If you notice, even when it has cached the images, while scrolling fast enough many still show 'working' in place of the image itself and the choppiness isn't completely gone.
The zoom interface is the last bit that makes it non-recommendable, I think they tried to do something smart there, but failed.
About stock gallery: In fact it's quite strange that heap size could restrict viewing small images correctly, nontheless it's a restriction which I guess hampers proper developement and could force developers to be lazy and just avoid to go near that limit anyway. Stock gallery is from the same guys that developed cooliris for the web and while it always looked awesome, it lacked a bit in functionality.
I think the argument on that google code thread against native stack use doesn't hold much water.

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Built-in Gallery app severely degrades images

I was taking a few sample pictures and found myself very dismayed by the quality when reviewing with the built-in Gallery application.
However, when I viewed them on my desktop PC later, it became obvious that the quality was significantly higher than it initially appeared.
Basically, Gallery sucks when zooming in.
YES! At first I thought the camera wasn't full 5mp, but I was relieved to see the pics were were full 5mp on my comp. It's really stupid how it degrades them.
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Pictures take a lil time to load fully. Also the zoom is a problem with andriod known fact.
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The built-in gallery loads the images in a reduced resolution. This is a known problem in 2.1 and beyond that Nexus One owners discovered back in January/February. Unfortunately they seem to be slow in doing anything about it.
You can vote for it to be fixed on the Android issues site (log in with your Google ID and star it to raise its priority/visibility):
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6587
The workaround is to use another gallery app, like the Multi-touch Gallery by BandB...

Gallery 3D Quality fuzzy...

I am currently using 3 Gallery apps on the DHD; HTC Stock, Floating Image, and Gallery 3D.
Over all i think i prefer gallery 3D but it has some issues, when zooming in with Gallery 3D the image is a lot fuzzier than the HTC app.
It seems to be Version 1.1.3...
Is there anything that can be done?
There seems to be a distinct lack of options when it comes to the app.
I noticed this too and rated it low and left a comment...
I guess the dev isn't bothered at this point
Dev? I thought google was the dev, oops :/
Did it not come with the nexus one as stock?
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You rated it low? It is still awesome, id give it 4* with one deducted for lack of configuration options and fuzzy zoom...
I forget, I think I gave it 2 or 3. The fact you can't zoom in on an image seems a pretty massive drawback on an image app...
Yeah, I thought it was Google, but you'll see it in the Markets so...?
The description of the market app says its a 3rd party port if i remember correctly
Having said that, that means theres some source floating around, i'll have a look and see what the problem is, should be a fairly simple fix...
Would be very interested if you did. Be sure to let me know here if you do!
Hey I was also wondering how that app went on the dhd... i had it on hero but was slower then a sumo wrestler rock climbing!
but don't Cooliris make the app?
http://www.cooliris.com/mobile/nexus-one/
It is buttery smooth, no lag whatsoever
I installed Gallery 3D from Market couple hours ago because HTC own gallery app doesn't show pics from Picasa web albums and for me its superfast. And pictures are sharp and I can zoom in and out.
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To clarify, everything works great, you CAN zoom in, but it does re-render the images.
If you zoom in on the Sense Gallery app, it will re-draw it showing the finest possible detail.
Zoom in on Gallary 3D and it doesn't redraw it Looks fuzzy when you zoom right in.

Stock photo viewer killing image details

So yesterday I email myself a few pics of my car I had on my I pad. When I check them out I notice they are low on detail. I was thinking what the heck higher Res and less detail? I compared the same pic on the ipad and instantly notice the difference. Thinking its impossible I jump into the market and look for another photoviewer and low and behold it displays all that missing detail. I started comparing all my pics on the zoom in both apps on my device (for reference I downloaded viewpic basically it was the first free app I found).
Anyone else notice this? Looks like the stock gallary app is helping to hurt the first impression of the screen and camera when checking out pics. Thankfully it ain't a hardware thing.
Until Google fixes the stock viewer, here is a solution that works for me.
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Q: Photos in the stock viewer are blurred when scaled to fit the screen. How do I view my DLSR pics and other high quality photos without the blur?
A: Download QuickPic from the market (free). It's a photo viewer that scales correctly without garbling photos.
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Yep, I have noticed the same, and my Vibrant had the same issue with it's gallery App when it first came out, it was eventually fixed.

Xoom gallery question

So I loaded a ton of high res photos straight from my DSLR forming a digital portfolio on my Xoom, but one thing is really irking me. When you first launch the gallery, the image is rendered somewhat fuzzy until you pinch and zoom in - then it becomes nice and sharp. Has anyone found a way around this? Should I be resizing to a ceettain size before transferring to the Xoom?
It's just a tad annoying that when swiping through photos in a gallery, they're all previewed almost in a low res fashion. Id hate to have to zoom in just to show how a photo is supposed to look.
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Android Gallery sucks ... period.
Google does not spend time for that.
Go to the Market and get "QuickPic".
That's better.
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So I loaded a ton of high res photos straight from my DSLR forming a digital portfolio on my Xoom, but one thing is really irking me. When you first launch the gallery, the image is rendered somewhat fuzzy until you pinch and zoom in - then it becomes nice and sharp. Has anyone found a way around this? Should I be resizing to a ceettain size before transferring to the Xoom?
It's just a tad annoying that when swiping through photos in a gallery, they're all previewed almost in a low res fashion. Id hate to have to zoom in just to show how a photo is supposed to look.
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i resize to 1600x1200 to save storage mostly but the images show well in both stock gallery and QuickPics. Higher Res takes a second to resolve to full detail but it should do so without the pinch and zoom trick. QuickPics saves the full screen view once you view the image the first time so it is faster on both viewing and slide shows.
GrimmySnarf said:
So I loaded a ton of high res photos straight from my DSLR forming a digital portfolio on my Xoom, but one thing is really irking me. When you first launch the gallery, the image is rendered somewhat fuzzy until you pinch and zoom in - then it becomes nice and sharp. Has anyone found a way around this? Should I be resizing to a ceettain size before transferring to the Xoom?
It's just a tad annoying that when swiping through photos in a gallery, they're all previewed almost in a low res fashion. Id hate to have to zoom in just to show how a photo is supposed to look.
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Never experienced that. I loaded my hi-res pics but it seems fine. Its pretty I like it, the 3d gallery.
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Hi all,
I'm developing a full resolution image viewer "Gallery illusion HD" that supports big "jpgs" and displays pictures with no quality loss. Now is in public beta and can be download free on the Android Market. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Regards,
Mobileillusion
You should add basic viewer functions as scrolling by finger, rotate and so on.
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You should add basic viewer functions as scrolling by finger, rotate and so on.
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Hi moriakoj,
thanks for the feedback. I will add those features in next versions.
The application is intended, above all, to see the details of high-resolution images (> 10 MP). Most viewers downscale the image in such images.
Regards,
Mobileillusion.

camera image quality

I was curious about the camera image quality of the shift. My pictures always turn out very noisy and washed out. I have read around and found the same complaints but no answers on improvement. My 1.5mp first gen Sony camera takes a better picture. I have the exact same issues on the stock HTC, other sense roms and CM7 nightly. The quality of the image changes very little. I am looking to get a decently clear picture. I do not expect perfection from a cell phone but when I see the 100% full size picture it's really bad even in on a perfect sunny day. I see the improve image patch that I have not downloaded yet. Is there a camera app that will take a better image ? Is the kernel code for the camera a possibly culprit ?
I know there are a lot of programs like camera 360 but that's not exactly want I am looking for.
It's a little disappointing to have a 5mp camera that is not very good. I could deal with a little washed out color but all the pixelation is what I don't like at the full 5mp resolution when on my computer. Thanks for any responses and help in advance
Richard
Improved image patch?
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Ya, saw it as a suggested thread when I started to type my subject. I have not tried it. I believe it was for the shift
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i was wrong for motorola phone boo !
Are you sure you set the image quality to 5 mp first? I own a really nice 16 mp canon camera, and the shift with 5 mp takes far better pictures, even in bad lighting.
Then again, I rarely take photos, I take videos then remove the frames I want as photos, ensures I always get the picture I want.
yes, it is set at 5mp. I have tried lower ISO and all the tricks but it isn't still blurry and lots of pixelation.
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I was curious about the camera image quality of the shift. My pictures always turn out very noisy and washed out. I have read around and found the same complaints but no answers on improvement. My 1.5mp first gen Sony camera takes a better picture. I have the exact same issues on the stock HTC, other sense roms and CM7 nightly. The quality of the image changes very little. I am looking to get a decently clear picture. I do not expect perfection from a cell phone but when I see the 100% full size picture it's really bad even in on a perfect sunny day. I see the improve image patch that I have not downloaded yet. Is there a camera app that will take a better image ? Is the kernel code for the camera a possibly culprit ?
I know there are a lot of programs like camera 360 but that's not exactly want I am looking for.
It's a little disappointing to have a 5mp camera that is not very good. I could deal with a little washed out color but all the pixelation is what I don't like at the full 5mp resolution when on my computer. Thanks for any responses and help in advance
Richard
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Well THIS article helped me .
Just a login screen
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My shift takes pretty good images...in the right conditions.
Low light conditions almost always produce ruinous pictures. The picture displays huge amounts of noise in these cases. Flash is generally not helpful.
Choosing the ISO manually shows improvement, and I personally prefer the Touch focus mode. When shooting outdoors in daylight, I usually get very nice pictures, particularly if I shoot in 5MP and then downsize them.
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Try the link below instead . Same link only posted different.
http://www.tested.com/news/how-to-take-better-photos-on-your-android-phone/430/
Same thing. Can cut n paste the article? I think I might seen this on androidfourms.com
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I'll try and get it on here for you later
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Here's the article, sorry it took so long
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How To Take Better Photos on Your Android Phone
The cameras keep getting higher in resolution, but there's more to getting good shots than the hardware.
By Ryan Whitwam
| June 14, 2010
.It's become common for even mid-range Android phones to come with some impressive cameras. A five megapixel sensor is usually present in most smartphones, and that means you can get some pretty reasonable point-and-shoot type images. A phone's camera may not be replacing your dedicated camera anytime soon, but you have to work with what you have. If all you have with you is a phone, you might as well maximize the image quality. Android has made some strides in the image capture department in the 2.1 and upcoming 2.2 updates.
Read on as we tell you how to get the most out of your Android phone's camera. The app that comes with the phone is the one most people will inevitably use, but we'll also tell you which third-party apps can add useful functionality.
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]Zooming is something we've all become accustomed to on real cameras. A standalone camera most likely has optical zoom. This enlarges an image by using movable lens elements to vary the focal length. With optical zoom, quality is not lost. With the digital zoom used in phones, you are basically cropping out pixels at the edge and blowing up what's left. The result is a poorer quality image. We recommend not zooming in if at all possible, since you can always crop an image after the fact using desktop software. The only time you should use your camera's zoom is when you have to send that photo off on the phone without any post-cropping.
Stock Android phones running on 2.1 and earlier have access to zoom controls in the form of plus/minus buttons on the screen, but it only moves in steps. In 2.2 Google is adding a zoom slider to the on-screen controls. Camera Pro and Camera Zoom FX can add that functionality now for a few bucks. Sense UI phones have long had access to digital zoom in the camera app. The ease of use depends on the underlying Android software version. On Android 2.1 builds of Sense, users are presented with a large friendly scroll wheel to adjust the zoom.
The zoom option is there if you need it, but we suggest only using it when you have to. Even then, zoom only as much as you have to. Each step you zoom means fewer pixels in the final image. The small images sensors on these phones tend to have more noise than standard cameras, and the more you zoom, the more noticeable that will be.
Flash
Next, you need to keep track of your flash settings. Cell phones use LED flashes, which are nice as they don't use very much power. However, they tend to light a subject more harshly than a more natural-looking Xenon flash on a real camera might (this happens even at a distance).
It's always a good idea to turn the flash off when you don't need it. The stock Android camera app has a tendency to overuse the flash when it is set on auto. If you take a picture in medium light and the flash goes off unexpectedly, try it again with the flash off. We often find the resulting image to be preferable to the one with the flash.
Focusing
What's the good of taking a photo if it isn't going to be in focus? Android phones made early use of autofocus cameras and that means better images. Phones with hardware camera buttons sometimes employ a two-step mechanism like a real camera. That means you can depress the button halfway to focus, then recompose and press it the rest of the way to capture the image. This is helpful in that it can allow you to change up the framing without capturing an image if the focus doesn't look right.
On a phone like the Nexus One without a hardware shutter button, you can get similar functionality. When you press the on-screen shutter button, you can hold your finger there to inspect the focus. If you don't like it, just slide your finger off without removing it from the screen. This will let you try again without taking the image. Similarly, if using a trackball/trackpad as the shutter, depress to focus, and if you wish to abandon the image you can tap the screen.
Sense UI phones have a different trick up their sleeve when it comes to focusing. These phones have tap to focus, a feature we originally saw in the iPhone 3GS. You can tap anywhere in the frame to have the camera autofocus for that spot. This is functionality we have not yet been able to replicate on stock Android phones through apps.
Image size
The next thing to be aware of is what type of image quality you need. The default setting on most phones is maximum quality. That's fine if you intend to take important images to keep. But if you're just taking a snapshot to email to a friend, or send in an MMS, you don't need the highest resolution image.
A full resolution image from an 8MP camera like that in the Incredible or EVO 4G could be well over 1MB. If you're on a non-unlimited data plan, sending a large image via MMS may not be a viable option at all. All the stock apps, as well as third-party camera apps will allow you to change the resolution of the image being captured.
This is also a good idea if you need to take several photos in quick succession. Android can be a little slow to write images to the SD card and prepare for the next shot. By reducing the overall image size, you can get more shots in. This functionality is available from the onscreen controls of all the stock apps. Some third party apps hide this functionality in the settings menu.
Fine tuning
These camera phones are getting closer and closer to being the real thing, as evidenced by the plethora of image effects they can use. Stock Android 2.2 (and Sense UI) and higher phones can take advantage of different exposure settings. The exposure is just the amount of light allowed to hit the image sensor. This can be used to compensate for conditions that are too light or dark, bringing out detail. If you need a flash, but it makes the image a little too bright (common with LED flashes), you can try again with a lower exposure. Change the exposure around while composing a shot. The Android camera will change the preview to approximate chosen exposure. Stock Android 2.1 is unable to alter these values, so you'll have to wait for the 2.2 update.
You can also get better color representation by changing the white balance. The auto setting is usually fine, but we've found Android phones can get confused, especially in low light. This often leaves us with warm, almost orange pictures. If your phone is taking images that look to warm or cold, try setting the white balance to the type of light you're shooting under. You have options like incandescent, daylight, fluorescent, and cloudy.
Sense UI phones (even on 2.1) have all these tweaks and more. HTC has added a number of options to their Android interface that doesn't exist for stock phones. There is an option to change metering mode to spot, center, or average. This controls how the phone samples to determine how to expose the shot. This can be helpful if your subject is lighted differently from the rest of the shot. We find this useful for times when we're taking a backlit shot.
Sense UI also builds in ISO settings. ISO is basically how sensitive the image sensor is to light. A higher ISO will allow you to capture motion better, but the image will be grainier. The sensors on phones tend to handle motion pretty poorly, so this is a nice addition on HTC's part. We haven't found any apps that allow stock Android to do any of this either. Camera 360 is a new app with some fun filters, and it offers an ISO option, but we found it did not work on stock Android 2.1 or 2.2. It seems HTC rolled their own code for this.
With a little thought, you can capture completely respectable images with your Android phone. We feel that the most important first step is setting up the shot correctly. You have to evaluate if you need the flash on or not, and if you can avoid zooming. Make sure to examine the preview after your handset focuses before you take the image. In our experience, the stock apps that come with your phone will do nearly everything you need.
Most of the third party apps don't add much functionality beyond some effect filters. The only exception may be timer and timer and burst mode, which you can get from an app like Camera Zoom FX. Sense phones, of course, have this built in. Do you have any camera tips for Android? Any apps you've found that bring something meaningful to the experience?
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I don't get it, every single picture I take is blurry and very noisy no matter what. You can not tell until you see the full resolution size 2592x1936. I don't need to save all pictures this size but I do a lot of cycling events that I would like to take good pictures at. My hope was to be able to have some nice larger photos to print . It would save me from buying a DC. I have noticed that older pictures before my rom flash are the same way.
The camera on my 3yr old crappy ATT samsung took clear pictures.Some were a little noisy because of lighting but not near as bad as this .
I am starting to wonder if my sensor is defective or my lens is scratched . I would attach a picture but the restrictions here would not allow it. Thanks for the help again. I guess I am SOL
What Rom are you on?
I have another camera related question. I have the CM7 nightly, my camera always freezed when I am waiting for a next shoot for too long, I have to take out the battery to reboot. Can anyone give some advices.
I am using cm7 nightlies. I have tried all roms with the sane results . As for the other question, did u format data,system, cache and dalvik cache( spelling) ?
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