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after a long time, i have speed!

Ever since I had the Herm100, purchased in late June I had had very slow speeds on the www. Speed in my home area (11214) of no more then 175kbps, I have complained to att each month since switching to the 3G also in June and they have been pretty good. I have had 50% off each month I complained and finally today I notice the 3G on the top of the screen :O
So I'm getting between 765-920 at the moment! not too shaby.
I do have one question tho...
Does heavy cloud cover with min amount of rain proved better signals for cell phones?
I would suggest to those who don't have good speed to make polite complaints to your carrier. The results do eventually happen.

i would have thought it might be worse when cloudy, but am no expert
Bbasso said:
I would suggest to those who don't have good speed to make polite complaints to your carrier. The results do eventually happen.
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Even if the results dont happen you might get a nice discount

Welcome to 3G!
I don't believe that rain clouds affect cell phone signals too much. I'm sure that it does, but it is negligible. The waves aren't that wide a frequency to bounce off the clouds like shortwave, which bounces of a completely different layer of the atmosphere.

cool info, thanks

Horrible data speeds in Philly burbs

With stock Rom back in August I was hitting 5.3 Mb/s download speeds. Now I'm barely hitting .5 consistantly. I did some Nandroid restores and retested. All were the same crappy speeds.
No radio changes to date that I know of. Running Eugene's latest Frankin-whiz. Anyone else experiencing this? Any ideas?
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I'm afraid I can't be much help with solving the problem bit I am seeing the same issue here in central utah. I was getting speeds close to 2 mbps than I rooted, applied the lag fix, applied the gps fix (which didn't work any way), and now I get half a meg of I'm lucky. First time I tested I got .05 mbps....how do you check data usage to see if you are over the 10 gig limit where tmo throttles you?
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Same here in Colorado Springs. Latest FrankenWiz Rom. Checked data usage, and only at 1.3 G, as I mainly use wifi. Thought it was just me

I live in Philly around old city and I constantly pull 3mbps down and 1 mbps up. The city is where its at.
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NANDROID completely crippled my speed. I restored from a NANDROID backup and it ****ed up everything. Not sure if it was the lagfix I removed prior but either way, restore with ODIN to JI2.

See, I'm still on the stock rom though, so I wonder if it was the lag fix. I may try reversing the lag fix, than retesting to see if it is any better.
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Well, I just got home, (I live about 10 miles from work, which is where I did my last test) and now I am pulling 3 mbps down and 1 mbps up....no changes at all to my phone. Makes me wonder if it's a network issue. I tested my wifes vibrant (which is still 100% stock) and it was only pulling .88 mbps down and .90 mbps up....
*Boggle*

I never applied any lag fix mainly because Eugene's roms are fast enough and I give a damn about benchmarks. My first nandroid has a record of my speedtest, just cant reproduce the speeds.
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It may just be a network issue. I live in Seattle and usually pull over three downtown, but occasionally it'll force me over to Edge, then an hour later I'll be back on 3G. What sucks for me though is I can only pull about 1.5 - 1.8 in my apartment, but literally two blocks away I can pull 5-6 consistently.

Gotta do it ..Lv all y'all but... WESTIEED.. (see sig) pew that felt good. Nuf said..back to trollin'

When NANDROID/Lag hack ****ed my Vibrant's data speed, WiFi was also slow.

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When NANDROID/Lag hack ****ed my Vibrant's data speed, WiFi was also slow.
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Yeah, my WiFi has no issues at all and I can constantly pull great speeds off it. The data coming off the network is what is spotty at best for me, usually on the low side.

tmobile speeds on the vibrant is absolutely horrible in north Philadelphia. I get like 999k or 1gb download if i hold it in the air. When I used the hd2 rooted with android, I got like 2 to 3 gb.. so it's obviously the phone not being a good signal/data grabber. It's samsung's fault.. Nobody had better reception that Motorola in my opinion.. their phones always get good reception. Just my opinion through testing

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tmobile speeds on the vibrant is absolutely horrible in north Philadelphia. I get like 999k or 1gb download if i hold it in the air. When I used the hd2 rooted with android, I got like 2 to 3 gb.. so it's obviously the phone not being a good signal/data grabber. It's samsung's fault.. Nobody had better reception that Motorola in my opinion.. their phones always get good reception. Just my opinion through testing
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Just got off a chat with TMO, they said one of the local towers has been down for a while. Im not sure if that makes me feel any better but at least there is a known problem instead of the "everything looks good from here" answer I was expecting. Id rather have a tower down and crappy speeds than crappy speeds with no tower down. just have to wait and see.

Ask me your mt4g/Vibrant comparison questions!

I have both in hand and am willing to answer questions comparing the two if anyone has any.

What's ur opinion on the new sense ui vs touchwiz?
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What's ur opinion on the new sense ui vs touchwiz?
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If I had a video camera besides the phone I would do a walkthrough demo'ing it, but omg it is beautiful. The default home launcher that comes with it is as horrible as it gets so I used Launcherpro to remedy that. Other than that though, how the phone dialer is laid out, the contacts screen layout, and even simple things like text messages are unbelievably polished. You will not be dissapointed with the Sense UI on the mt4g.
EDIT: Ehh, what I was gonna show in the video was pretty basic and I thought someone must've done this already so before doing anything I looked up videos and found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNr-ku3-O0g It is exactly the same software I would've shown you except he's running it on the Nexus One and he goes a lot more in depth than I would've

What's the battery life like, with moderate or heavy usage?

presence06 said:
What's the battery life like, with moderate or heavy usage?
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Well when I bought it, it came out of the box with only 30% charge. So I went to a Starbucks before class and it charged pretty well in about 45 mins (don't know the percentage but maybe like 75%). I used that from 5pm til 11pm when I got home. At that point it was giving me low battery warnings, but I'd say that was fair after some pretty heavy usage. I spent the whole day mesing with settings and trying to get a feel for the phone. I downloaded about 20 apps on HSPA+ in NYC and about 4 or 5 full length albums on Thumbplay over wifi in school. I also browsed the web and ran speedtests (got about 4Mbp/s down, 1Mbp/s up). Overall the battery did pretty well and so far is the least of my worries, if I could think of any.. I'd take the mt4g battery > Vibrant battery any day.

How is the overall feel of the device? Weight wise? Does it really look like a device for a 14 y.o. or it is a decent design?
How is the screen? Does it really make a lot of difference b/w SAMOLED on the lowest brightness vs MT4G on auto?
I am sure the OS interactions feel faster on it, but is it really noticeable in the everyday use?

Well, would you trade/sell your vibrant for the mt4g?

lqaddict said:
How is the overall feel of the device? Weight wise? Does it really look like a device for a 14 y.o. or it is a decent design?
How is the screen? Does it really make a lot of difference b/w SAMOLED on the lowest brightness vs MT4G on auto?
I am sure the OS interactions feel faster on it, but is it really noticeable in the everyday use?
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The actual device is a lot sexier than than dummy displays of it and better looking than photos do it justice. It is a bit heaver than the Vibrant (but what isn't lol), I think it's the perfect weight. It doesn't look like only a teenage device; I think it could appeal to anyone of any age.
Now the screen - a lot of people say the Vibrant's screen is better, which it is and I love it, but I think it was overdone. Why? Because the entire 2 months I used the phone, I used it at the lowest brightness which was still too bright. The mt4G's screen can get REALLY dim, which is nice at night because it doesn't hurt your eyes. I'd say the Vibrant's screen at the LOWEST brightness setting is about the mt4G's display at around 30% brightness. Not a bad thing. The colors are beautiful - they're as good as you need them to be and not overly saturated.
The difference between interactions so far is notable. Everything is so smooth that I don't worry anymore about hitting the buttons too fast and the phone not keeping up.

anthonys2r said:
Well, would you trade/sell your vibrant for the mt4g?
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Lol. I made that decision last night after using the device about 4 hours. I sold my Vibrant and it's in the xda marketplace right now. Definitely keeping the mt4G.
I was thinking about waiting til Nov. 8th or 11th to see what Samsung has in store for us, but I'm very disappointed that their priority seems to be putting out new devices over supporting their current ones so I went with HTC and the mt4G here.

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...I also browsed the web and ran speedtests (got about 4Mbp/s down, 1Mbp/s up)...
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That's what I get on my Vibrant (well from 3-5Mbs on avg [max was 6Mbps]). Is the NYC HSPA+ coverage not that good?
~SB

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That's what I get on my Vibrant (well from 3-5Mbs on avg [max was 6Mbps]). Is the NYC HSPA+ coverage not that good?
~SB
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I was thinking that but I also considered that I was in a very heavy populated area in midtown with many people probably hammering those cell towers at the same time. < Whoa, no homo.

Aspeds2989 said:
I was thinking that but I also considered that I was in a very heavy populated area in midtown with many people probably hammering those cell towers at the same time. < Whoa, no homo.
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So essentially "HSPA+ upgraded" phone but same speed? Doesn't sound like a winner for me. Can't wait to see some upgraded HSPA+ networks able to push out that type of throughput to phones which support it. Kinda makes a 4G phone moot at this point if you can't take advantage of it.
Good to hear about the responsive UI, although we can achieve that with any ROM from Sombionix or Eugene. But it's a plus to have that experience out of the box for what...95% of the people who don't know what a ROM is. Anything that can get more people on the T-Mobile bandwagon = more money to T-Mobile = more money for infrastructure = happy people.
~SB

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That's what I get on my Vibrant (well from 3-5Mbs on avg [max was 6Mbps]). Is the NYC HSPA+ coverage not that good?
~SB
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I wonder about the usefulness of speedtest. Yesterday my brother and I were at dinner and we tested our phones, his Nexus One versus my Vibrant. I was pulling down 3+ mbps and he was getting half that, even though in theory we should be pulling the same speed.

Kubernetes said:
I wonder about the usefulness of speedtest. Yesterday my brother and I were at dinner and we tested our phones, his Nexus One versus my Vibrant. I was pulling down 3+ mbps and he was getting half that, even though in theory we should be pulling the same speed.
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In theory is correct but the antenna assembly and the radios are different, therefore it's not exactly comparable and speedtest most likely has it correct. One thing that I have noticed is that my IP will be assigned to LA, San Fransisco, and even once Pittsburgh randomly. Don't know why this happens, but a reboot puts it back in the correct IP range for my area. That might have affected the test that night.
I've got this site bookmarked on my phone if I need it: http://whatismyipaddress.com/
If I ever do a speed test and find a low throughput the above reason is usually why.
~SB

Ordered mine yesterday, I am disappointed at the level of support the galaxy series has received from Sammy, I believe after this froyo update Sammy will wash their hands of this devise and move on,
I am told that the mt4g has an upgrade waiting right out the box, Now that’s what I call Support. Also rumor is mt4g will be the first to get Gingerbread upgrade.

Did it come with the new tether app? The TMO one?
If not, that might be the OTA that is being rolled out.
I was actually thinking of getting an HTC device, seeing how they got it pretty much under the belt the Android, but the new tactics with the provider that locks the phone down from root, and RW NAND keeps me at bay.
Wish I was a bit bolder when Nexus One came out, and got it, I just didn't like the marketing pitch that it was an iPhone killer, but it did nothing to decrease the popularity of the Apple product , it did increase the popularity of the Android though hopefully Vibrant is going to staying with me for at least 2 years.

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Did it come with the new tether app? The TMO one?
If not, that might be the OTA that is being rolled out.
I was actually thinking of getting an HTC device, seeing how they got it pretty much under the belt the Android, but the new tactics with the provider that locks the phone down from root, and RW NAND keeps me at bay.
Wish I was a bit bolder when Nexus One came out, and got it, I just didn't like the marketing pitch that it was an iPhone killer, but it did nothing to decrease the popularity of the Apple product , it did increase the popularity of the Android though hopefully Vibrant is going to staying with me for at least 2 years.
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As far as I can see, the app fixed a glitch with the address bar in the browser and that's it. Maybe there's some other bugs it fixed that I hadn't even noticed yet, but that's a good thing. The wifi hotspot and wifi calling apps were on it out of the box already.

how was the rock band?

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how was the rock band?
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I'm not a fan really, but I tried it and it's not bad at all... Pretty addicting and the graphics are nice. The Monopoly game that comes with the phone btw is sick! The graphics are as good as I've seen in a game and the gameplay is smooth. I was impressed because at first I just looked at it as bloatware to ignore, but it's "keepable." The game is by EA btw.

I had the opportunity to play with 4g, the phone is very nice. Personally I can't see myself with a phone that I can't root or flash, I mean that's why we come to forums like this. If we get root for the 4g I will be the first to get it. But as of right now I love what we can do, and what's coming with the vibrant.

No working GPS? No problem. No froyo? No problem. Bad reception? Problem

First off I'd like to say I'm thankful for everything the devs here do. I've tried the 3g fix and it didn't do anything, so now I'm just curious if there is anything else out there that fixes it.
I'm on the newest DL09 and the problem is still there. Bad reception. I'm serious when I say I get full 3g bars maybe 1% of the time, and I'm dead center in a verizon 3g area. I've never seen a signal jump around as much as on the fascinate. It will switch between 3g and 1x constantly throughout the day, and when it's on 3g it looks like the bars are dancing all day long because they just jump around.
My original Droid will have a steady 5 bars pretty much all day. Fascinate...not even close. It's getting ridiculous actually. I can download updates for apps on my droid no problem, but I actually wait til I get home on my wifi to download updates on my fascinate. I constantly get "stuck" loading a page on the net because of the ridiculous reception.
Now my question is...is there any fix out there that actually works that I might have skipped over? Good reception is a HUGE thing, especially when I'm dead center in a 3g area, and the fascinate doesn't have it. I'm thinking about selling it in the next few days because it's absolutely crazy.
People complain all day long about the GPS and no froyo...and I'm actually confused as to why many do not complain about the reception. That's the biggest issue with the phone IMO.
Thanks for any help.

Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.

AlexDeGruven said:
Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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My friends has the same issue, and I've seen people complain about it before. So I think it's a fairly common issue.

brian85 said:
First off I'd like to say I'm thankful for everything the devs here do. I've tried the 3g fix and it didn't do anything, so now I'm just curious if there is anything else out there that fixes it.
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Thanks for any help.
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I'm assuming you tried the reprogramming codes?
http://www.ehow.com/how_4532332_reprogram-verizon-phone.html
probably the 1st thing you tried, but just checking. I know for me, i went from being in the -102 range (1 bar) to -89 range (2 to 3) at work. Also at home i went from -92 to -51 (MAX)

You did option 2 correct?

Just did option 2 and it seems to have done nothing. Going back and forth between -96 and -101

If you dont see people compalining about reception, its largely due to the fact that the phone doesnt really suffer from reception issues. If I were you, I'd call verizon and make a formal complaint about the hardware restricting your usage, I'm sure they will work with you.

I'm a sales rep at a Verizon corporate store, 4 of my co-workers have Fascinates and we ALL experience a MAJOR difference in signal quality compared to co-workers with Droid X's and Droid 2's...
There's a five page thread on droidforums (fascinate section) about every single person in that thread having reception issues on the fascinate. And if you do a "fascinate reception issue" search on google, there are threads everywhere about that.
I just have a feeling everyone is focused on froyo and GPS so that's why reception isn't brought up much. I highly doubt, with as many people that have this problem, that it's just a problem on some of the galaxy s phones.

agreed bro i lose signal from my bars are really sporadic

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agreed bro i lose signal from my bars are really sporadic
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Yeah it's very frustrating.
What's even more frustrating is even when I get 4 full bars I only get -89 on the mobile signal widget..that's far from max reception.

I've never had reception problems per se but I have full bars and 73 dbm. Also for some reason my 3g download rate is nerfed. Earlier today on speed test got 63 kbps and 462 ping dunno why. Mostly hovers in the 300kbps range
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Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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I've had two phones now, and they both have very poor signal strength. Comparing my Fascinate to a friends Droid, sitting just a few inches apart, he had a dbm in the mid to high -70's, while mine was in the high -90's.
If you're in a solid coverage area, it gets fine reception and you're not likely to see the problem, but as you travel into a lower signal area, the Fascinate trails off very, very sharply. Even though I live in an area with supposedly blanket coverage, my house is towards the bottom of a small hill and I typically get zero or 1 bars on the display, every once in a while 2, but it'll drop back to 1 or 0 as soon as I pick the phone it.
The Fascinate does have a very week antennae design.

I rarely see 3 or 4 bars...come to think of it, I don't think i've ever seen 3 or 4 bars. This is when I'm in an area which should definitely have excellent coverage.
OP: do you have actual symptoms of poor signal like slow down/up load or dropped calls?
My speed tests when i have 1bar 3G are about 800Mbits up and 500Mbits down. Never dropped a call (rarely make calls, though). I have read that some folks suspect that the Fascinate has reporting issues? I don't know...but since I'm not seeing horrible speeds I've tried ignoring the fact that its always reporting 1-2 bars.
Kind of similar to the TWoS thing. I chased this one for a little bit too before dismissing it as a reporting issue (for now).

I originally was upset about the reception but came to realize that the office building I work in is built like a bunker. Other then when I am in the center of the building I get good reception, at my desk near a window I get 1-3 bars. However anytime other then when I am in this building I almost always have full bars.
However I have noticed that when I am in my office what ever bars I get my friends droid gets one more. But when it comes down to that it isn't Verizon...again the problem is with Samsung.

Hey guys,
what if I did option 1 instead of option 2 in *228 reprogramming?
On another note, my 3g indicator constantly disappears in verizon hotspot areas, it is really quite the annoyance.

Are you on a stock kernel?
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Negative, I'm on Dl09 supah clean with adry's 12/30 test kernel.
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The reception for my Fascinate isn't spectacular. I don't know how it ranks among smart phones, but there is a definite difference between it and my chocolate 8550. In known holes in vzw's coverage I occasionally lose signal, but I don't use it as a phone enough to drop many calls.
However, I spend the majority of my time in strong signal environs, so it doesn't really come up as an issue for me, and I just accept it. It will be a decision factor for my next phone though.
Maybe others have a similar situation: worse yes, but liveable.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.

I have noticed the signal over the past 24 hours has been jumping all over the place like Verizon may be running tests or something. The drop being very consistent intervals of no bars but still 3g.
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My brother has Fascinate as do I and out of the Box his got 2 more bars than mine and his almost always has more signal.
Remember this was before I started rooting and all that.
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Signal Strength vs. GNex

Having a hard time finding info on this... anyone actually measured an increase/decrease vs. their GNex? I'm not talking about bars, but in dBm/ASUs or whatnot.
I was able to successfully order one today but am wondering if I should cancel. I primarily will use this phone to tether on the TMobile plan and while overall coverage with my GNex is adequate, I often find myself in situations indoors (various restaurants/cafes, etc) where it's a bit fringy and slow. Fortunately I live in a 42 HSPA+ area (downtown San Diego) so I imagine that will help some.

I don't have hard numbers for you, but based on my experience the last week its about the same if not marginally better. Nothing mind blowing though.
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El Daddy said:
I don't have hard numbers for you, but based on my experience the last week its about the same if not marginally better. Nothing mind blowing though.
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Hmm... are you seeing an improvement in your data speeds at least - ie. in a marginal area wear you might have gotten 1 mbps, you now get like 1.5 or 2?
If I'm not looking forward to much of an improvement here coupled with the glass back it might be best to sit this one out. OTOH I *did* get one and should be able to at least resell what I paid for it so it might not hurt to try...

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Hmm... are you seeing an improvement in your data speeds at least - ie. in a marginal area wear you might have gotten 1 mbps, you now get like 1.5 or 2?
If I'm not looking forward to much of an improvement here coupled with the glass back it might be best to sit this one out. OTOH I *did* get one and should be able to at least resell what I paid for it so it might not hurt to try...
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Yeah data speeds are much higher. At work where I usually have one or two bars I now get ~10Mbps with the N4 as opposed to the Gnex I'd have 3-7Mbps. At home where I have a great signal; I went from 7Mbps with the Gnex to 19Mbps with the N4.
I'm on T-Mobile BTW.
Edit: The performance increase from the Gnex to the N4 alone is enough for me to recommend the upgrade. It absolutely flies!
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El Daddy said:
Yeah data speeds are much higher. At work where I usually have one or two bars I now get ~10Mbps with the N4 as opposed to the Gnex I'd have 3-7Mbps. At home where I have a great signal; I went from 7Mbps with the Gnex to 19Mbps with the N4.
I'm on T-Mobile BTW.
Edit: The performance increase from the Gnex to the N4 alone is enough for me to recommend the upgrade. It absolutely flies!
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Awesome! Thanks for sharing... I'm a remote web consultant, so this basically this seals the deal for me. I'm rarely in situations with no signal, just places that it's a bit too slow that I tend to avoid. Usually in the best spots I see about 8-9 mbps so I'm looking forward to the increase in speed, which sounds like it may put me close to what I get on my home network.