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Just thought I'd throw this out there...(Epson / Nova)

Just a PM response, but I figured I'd just post it to the public...ive been thinking about this for a while now...
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... I think they might be the AMOLED screens that HTC had originally announced the phone with... Then they noticed the color issue with the new AMOLED technologies and reverted to the EPSONs.

Tilde88 said:
Just a PM response, but I figured I'd just post it to the public...ive been thinking about this for a while now...
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... I think they might be the AMOLED screens that HTC had originally announced the phone with... Then they noticed the color issue with the new AMOLED technologies and reverted to the EPSONs.
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excuse my ignorance, but this is like hearing one end of a phone conversation for a very brief moment. care to provide some more context and detail?
don't mean to sound rude.. i'm honestly curious.

Tilde88 said:
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... .
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Maybe it's just me, but I have a NOVA and my brother has an Epson and the difference is negligible if any compared side by side. I guess we are just color blind and don't know it.

Tilde88 said:
Just a PM response, but I figured I'd just post it to the public...ive been thinking about this for a while now...
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... I think they might be the AMOLED screens that HTC had originally announced the phone with... Then they noticed the color issue with the new AMOLED technologies and reverted to the EPSONs.
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Neither Novatek or Epson make AMOLED panels (only Samsung and LG) and if it was an AMOLED screen it would be noticeably better

trentlythp said:
Maybe it's just me, but I have a NOVA and my brother has an Epson and the difference is negligible if any compared side by side. I guess we are just color blind and don't know it.
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lol then you have eye problems... i held my NOVA0002 next to my EPS0003 and i tell you, nova is this color --><<--- where its supposed to be black... put the default sense black background on... youll see
and it was about my exchaning my phone due to the screen grounding issue...
also thanks for the Samsung LG comment... I dont think its impossible that what I said could be true

Tilde, you're cool. End of story.
This thread is pointless. Close please!
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The new phones have nova panels last I checked so they didn't switch anything to epson. If anything they ran both as tests and picked nova for whatever reason.

Tilde88 said:
lol then you have eye problems... i held my NOVA0002 next to my EPS0003 and i tell you, nova is this color --><<--- where its supposed to be black... put the default sense black background on... youll see
and it was about my exchaning my phone due to the screen grounding issue...
also thanks for the Samsung LG comment... I dont think its impossible that what I said could be true
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Mine is Novatek and black levels are amazing. Color quality is good as well. I have seen Evos with the purple tint though. I just don't think it matters what screen type it is.

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Tilde, you're cool. End of story.
This thread is pointless. Close please!
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thank you for the constructive feedback.
engagedtosmile said:
Mine is Novatek and black levels are amazing. Color quality is good as well. I have seen Evos with the purple tint though. I just don't think it matters what screen type it is.
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very interesting... i thought all novateks would have the hue discoloration... perhaps its something that will soon be hacked out... either way, im happy with my epson

I have a related question.
I actually have a 0003, with the Nova screen. Is there a difference between the 0002 and 0003 models with the Nova screen?

Tilde do you have a 002 nova?
My 003 nova looks quite good
Swyped from my Evo 4G

I like the vibrancy of the Novateks over the Epsons anytime. Whether there is a pinkish hue or not is only distinguishable when setting it side-by-side with another device as your eyes are constantly adjusting the white balance to the brightness color you see. Therefore, the hue goes unnoticed most of the time anyways.
BTW, both screens are definitely not AMOLED. I wish Novas were 'cause then I'd be using the red tone tweak and would be saving 42% of battery life as it's been tested with the Nexus Ones.

I have a google io 0002 novatec and have compared it to a 0003 novatec and mine is noticeably brighter and more vibrant than the other one at full brightness. i do detect a cooler color temperature but it's only noticeable in contrast with a screen with a warmer temp. who is to say either one is incorrect? they both appear color accurate individually

My cousin darrell told my other cousin darrell that my first cousin darrell that his face kinda red. Figured it was from being in the sun a little longer then he aught to have been in it. But to be honest wit cha i reckon i wouldn't have noticed if darrell hadn't said nuffin. Its a little red but ain't too red i reckon.
Its like that little ding in your car door. It's small until someone points it out to you. Then all of a sudden WOW it got bigger magically.
The Nova panels are fine. Flash some ROMs or read a book.
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mrmomoman said:
My cousin darrell told my other cousin darrell that my first cousin darrell that his face kinda red. Figured it was from being in the sun a little longer then he aught to have been in it. But to be honest wit cha i reckon i wouldn't have noticed if darrell hadn't said nuffin. Its a little red but ain't too red i reckon.
Its like that little ding in your car door. It's small until someone points it out to you. Then all of a sudden WOW it got bigger magically.
The Nova panels are fine. Flash some ROMs or read a book.
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Dang, wish I could +1 your post...LOL.

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ok people back on topic and stop the name calling/flaming/bashing of others. this isnt the place for it. if u do not have something to contribute dont post.

Tilde88 said:
Just a PM response, but I figured I'd just post it to the public...ive been thinking about this for a while now...
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... I think they might be the AMOLED screens that HTC had originally announced the phone with... Then they noticed the color issue with the new AMOLED technologies and reverted to the EPSONs.
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Bad info....I have a Novatec/Novatek screen. It is definitely LCD. My colors are beautiful

masbirdies said:
Bad info....I have a Novatec/Novatek screen. It is definitely LCD. My colors are beautiful
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i was going to say the same thing.. now the samsung moment, the colors on that screen are all jacked up.. but thats for another section in the forums!

love my 0002 NOVA. the screen is stunning and no matter how much I try to find flaws in it , I can't

I have a Nova and an Epson on hand right now and i prefer the Nova to be honest. The colors seem richer and not washed out.

[Q] Yellow tint when backlight is dim, normal?

Is it normal for the screen to be a bit yellow when the back-light is dim? While the back light is ~50% to 100% it's a nice clear white. When it's turned down though it has a yellow/green tint. I had an Epic before the fascinate, and it was always a clear white. Side-by-side the epic was also a bit brighter.
Picked up a Droid X yesterday, since it was the last day for the buy one get one free, and it's screen is even brighter than the fascinate. Which seems to contradict most of the reviews and comparisons I've read.
I'm wondering if this is normal, or if i should get it exchanged since it's only my 3rd day with the phone.

It's funny that you say something like that because I used to have the epic and the screen on my fascinate has colors off as well. whites look yellower and greys and blacks have a red hue so they look almost maroon. My brother's fascinate does not have these issues and looks exactly as my epic did.
edit: also, this is with any screen brightness not just minimum

mirrinigma said:
It's funny that you say something like that because I used to have the epic and the screen on my fascinate has colors off as well. whites look yellower and greys and blacks have a red hue so they look almost maroon. My brother's fascinate does not have these issues and looks exactly as my epic did.
edit: also, this is with any screen brightness not just minimum
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Sounds like you need to exchange yours at least. I might take mine up to the store and compare them, just to be sure.
Does your screen turn a bit yellow when the backlight dims as well?

Dhampyr said:
Sounds like you need to exchange yours at least. I might take mine up to the store and compare them, just to be sure.
Does your screen turn a bit yellow when the backlight dims as well?
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it is yellowish at 0%, yes, but darker greys are almost maroon as I said
it makes the lighter greys look green and the darker greys look maroon, so it's definitely something i'll be exchanging in the near future. I just need to have the time

My whites also have a yellow tint. Is this anything to worry about or will Voodoo ColorFix fix it?

I think my wife's phone has the same issue. After reading this thread I compared them and there is definitely a difference.
There doesn't seem to be a difference at the higher brightness settings though. (remove the space in the url to see my comparison)
This is at 0% brightness (my wife's is on the left)
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and this is at 100%
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We got our phones at the same time on release day. As well as using the same screen protector (phantom skinz for now - driving me nuts and ready to take it off)

I took mine up to the store today, and i'm going to exchange it for a new one tomarrow(store was closing). They said it was defective.
Also, thanks for posting the screenshots Ooklah.

Dhampyr said:
I took mine up to the store today, and i'm going to exchange it for a new one tomarrow(store was closing). They said it was defective.
Also, thanks for posting the screenshots Ooklah.
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So it's a defect? Should I return it?

GoogleAndroid said:
So it's a defect? Should I return it?
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I would. The store should do an even exchange. After all, the screen is best part of the galaxy S phones.

My wife and I just got back from exchanging her phone, and out of two new phones they checked, they both had the same yellow hue... their display unit didn't, and neither did the associate's Fascinate who helped us. I wasn't going to make them open more phones up as this store has been really good to us.
The associate said he thinks that may just be the way they are manufacturing them. If that is the case, perhaps it is the software, and there is a setting buried somewhere that can be changed. I'm not sure, but I am curious to hear about everyones results on their exchanges.

ooklah said:
My wife and I just got back from exchanging her phone, and out of two new phones they checked, they both had the same yellow hue... their display unit didn't, and neither did the associate's Fascinate who helped us. I wasn't going to make them open more phones up as this store has been really good to us.
The associate said he thinks that may just be the way they are manufacturing them. If that is the case, perhaps it is the software, and there is a setting buried somewhere that can be changed. I'm not sure, but I am curious to hear about everyones results on their exchanges.
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Samsung did an awful job calibrating the display. Colors are extremely saturated(I'm a home theater buff and it looks like that awful dynamic/vivid setting.) I don't mind it though. I just wish this could display whites like my Droid. Maybe I should try returning it and see if I can get one with a working GPS and good screen?

GoogleAndroid said:
Samsung did an awful job calibrating the display. Colors are extremely saturated(I'm a home theater buff and it looks like that awful dynamic/vivid setting.) I don't mind it though. I just wish this could display whites like my Droid. Maybe I should try returning it and see if I can get one with a working GPS and good screen?
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Same here. I have a screen calibration unit even for my displays. Hopefuly Voodoo will be out soon though.

ooklah said:
My wife and I just got back from exchanging her phone, and out of two new phones they checked, they both had the same yellow hue... their display unit didn't, and neither did the associate's Fascinate who helped us. I wasn't going to make them open more phones up as this store has been really good to us.
The associate said he thinks that may just be the way they are manufacturing them. If that is the case, perhaps it is the software, and there is a setting buried somewhere that can be changed. I'm not sure, but I am curious to hear about everyones results on their exchanges.
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I don't believe that it is just the way they are manufacturing them or else both mine, my epic's, and my brother's display would all be the same regarding colors. The colors should not be so significantly different between two units of the same model if they are manufacturing them properly. I will be returning mine and making sure they open them until the displays are properly colored... I am only returning one unit and I, like most consumers on xda, am not part of the majority they serve so I actually... well, notice the color difference.
Please don't put me in the "unwarranted exchange" club! My display really is off, and I haven't seen this in any of the other Galaxy S forums, just the Fascinate. I feel ripped off after having switched from Verizon to Sprint for the Epic, then being unsatisfied with my sprint bill/Epic switching back to Verizon and getting a junk display.

mirrinigma said:
I don't believe that it is just the way they are manufacturing them or else both mine, my epic's, and my brother's display would all be the same regarding colors. The colors should not be so significantly different between two units of the same model if they are manufacturing them properly. I will be returning mine and making sure they open them until the displays are properly colored... I am only returning one unit and I, like most consumers on xda, am not part of the majority they serve so I actually... well, notice the color difference.
Please don't put me in the "unwarranted exchange" club! My display really is off, and I haven't seen this in any of the other Galaxy S forums, just the Fascinate. I feel ripped off after having switched from Verizon to Sprint for the Epic, then being unsatisfied with my sprint bill/Epic switching back to Verizon and getting a junk display.
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What's funny, and is actually kind of bugging me now is that my phone (without the yellowish tint) has noticeably dimmer capacitive buttons than my wifes new one. This might be due to it almost being a month old vs. one that is only a few hours. But if the LEDs are diminishing that quickly, what will they look like in another month, or even six months from now? I just don't think Samsung's quality control is what it should be.
As far as the screen, it isn't that big of a deal to me since the phone only has the yellow hue on the dimmest settings. If it were noticeable on brighter, or even mid settings then I'd be having a fit until we got one that looked good to us.
Your particular case sounds like it is way worse than what my wife and I have experienced. It sounds like a genuine defect, and you SHOULD get a replacement.

I just got back with my new one, no yellow tint at all.
The Vibrant has had similar issues with their displays. Ranges from a brown to a blue tint even. I've read a few about Epics having a yellow tint as well. So it's not unique to the fascinate.
I don't mind "vibrant" colors as long as the black is as black as possible. Even if it makes my ViewSonic look dull.

Now that I really look at it, whites are very blue tinted, while other colors are yellow tinted or over-saturated(which is on every one of these. The D1, D2, DX, and iPhone 4 are the only phones I've ever seen calibrated correctly out of the box.) Is this a defect? I am just happy these whites aren't like my friend Incredible's. His whites get black streaks down one line of pixels(it's hard to explain, but looks awful.) To return or not to return? If I return they better apply a new Invisible Shield for free.

Wow, you guys are really picky. I'm not about to say that my Fascinate's screen is perfect, but then again, no screen is. They ALL have flaws, one way or another. I for one have noticed that whites have a bluish tint, which strangely changes to a yellowish tint when I press on the screen. Does this make me want to complain and return the phone? Of course not. It really is not worth the hassle of going through that. Honestly though, I've never seen a screen that looks more awesome than this super AMOLED screen, despite the minor flaws. Guess there's just no pleasing some people. ;-)
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

ivorycruncher said:
Wow, you guys are really picky. I'm not about to say that my Fascinate's screen is perfect, but then again, no screen is. They ALL have flaws, one way or another. I for one have noticed that whites have a bluish tint, which strangely changes to a yellowish tint when I press on the screen. Does this make me want to complain and return the phone? Of course not. It really is not worth the hassle of going through that. Honestly though, I've never seen a screen that looks more awesome than this super AMOLED screen, despite the minor flaws. Guess there's just no pleasing some people. ;-)
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The screen on my new one seems pretty perfect to me. No tints, and certainly doesn't change color when i touch it. Guess some people prefer to accept defects and substandard quality control.
Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Went into the Verizon store today - the associate who I spoke with immediately recognized the problem, but I did pull out my brother's fascinate without color issues so we wouldn't have to go and check a floor model.
At first she said "Here, it's probably fixed" when she turned the backlight up, but when I showed her the difference between the two phones with the backlight dimmed to lowest. I mentioned the battery drain with it higher would not really be acceptable to me, she was more than glad to accept it as an exchange for a new Fascinate.
I also had my contract switched over to 1 year because I forgot to do that when I was in there and getting my old fascinate... sort of happens when you're sitting around for two hours. Picked up the extended battery too - not nearly as bad as people say unless you're shirt-pocketing it.
Took all of 45 minutes, I guess I was lucky - the longest part was the line.

Tints vary from handset to handset.
Hey just wanted to chime in.
I've compared Epic, Fascinate, Vibrant, and Captivate side by side. Here is what I found, almost no two screens have the same hue/tint/.
These are the following tints I've noticed.
Pink
Yellow (the best in my opinion)
Brown
blue/green
blue
blue/gray
When testing the phones, I set them side by side, and set the same brightness levels to test.
Why these tints vary so much, from individual to individual handset is a good question. I saw two Epic's in a sprint store side by side, one was blue tinted one was brown. Same exact settings. So strange.

Better screen in newer Vibrants?

So I have had my vibrant since the beginning. I just got my wife one and the weird thing is her screen is so much better than mine. Her screen does not have the greyish look in white colors. Its very bright and white. I have compared with brightness levels the same and on different roms with the same effect. The new vibrants screen looks so much better.
Sent from a Galaxy S far....far....away.

its the same...
happened to me yesterday when i got a new one as well..
A guy told me..
that it was because the stock kernel isn't trying to save battery, while the custom kernels you flash are saving battery so they lower their contrast, brightness etc.
Where as Stock kernels go full-out with everything at maximum
Hope i answered your question.

NO, newer Vibrant's don't have better screens. This is an old issue.
jbatysmallville said:
So I have had my vibrant since the beginning. I just got my wife one and the weird thing is her screen is so much better than mine. Her screen does not have the greyish look in white colors. Its very bright and white. I have compared with brightness levels the same and on different roms with the same effect. The new vibrants screen looks so much better.
Has anyone else noticed this? Do the newer vibrants have a better screen?
Sent from a Galaxy S far....far....away.
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Ok this is an old issue. Newer Vibrants do not have better screens.
No two Vibrant screens are alike.
From it's release date, every single Vibrant was like a box of chocolates, you never knew what tint your display would be.
Some vibrants come with blue tint, others with grey, some yellow, some red, some brown.
It is a quality control issue and has nothing to do with the manufacture date.
Some links for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732247
http://androidforums.com/captivate-...r-amoled-blue-tint-screen-no-true-whites.html
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3464-blue-tint/
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/35568-blue-tint-screen.html
http://android.bigresource.com/Samsung-Captivate-Super-Amoled-Blue-Tint-on-Screen-9YDGZWDH5.html
There are many more links about tint issues with super amoled. Like I said, no two screens are alike, and trying to get a replacement might get you one with an even uglier tint.

SamsungVibrant said:
Ok this is an old issue. Newer Vibrants DO NOT have better screens.
NO TWO Vibrant screens are alike.
From it's release date, every single Vibrant was like a box of chocolates, you never knew what tint your display would be.
Some vibrants come with blue tint, others with grey, some yellow, some red, some brown.
It is a quality control issue and has nothing to do with the manufacture date.
Some links for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732247
http://androidforums.com/captivate-...r-amoled-blue-tint-screen-no-true-whites.html
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3464-blue-tint/
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/35568-blue-tint-screen.html
http://android.bigresource.com/Samsung-Captivate-Super-Amoled-Blue-Tint-on-Screen-9YDGZWDH5.html
There are many more links about tint issues with super amoled. Like I said, no two screens are alike, and trying to get a replacement might get you one with an even uglier tint.
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Really? Never knew about this..
I notice no tint on my screen, even if its compared to my brothers...
Hmm.. Yes his screen does seem a bit different but not much its not the color but the brightness hes always at max... so it looks brighter... hmmm
interesting.

If it looks brighter at the same brightness settings, its probably because you have the power saving box checked in display while she doesn't. I thought the same thing when I compared to my friend's new vibrant, but after I unchecked the box it looked the same.
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SamsungVibrant said:
Ok this is an old issue. Newer Vibrants DO NOT have better screens.
NO TWO Vibrant screens are alike.
From it's release date, every single Vibrant was like a box of chocolates, you never knew what tint your display would be.
Some vibrants come with blue tint, others with grey, some yellow, some red, some brown.
It is a quality control issue and has nothing to do with the manufacture date.
Some links for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732247
http://androidforums.com/captivate-...r-amoled-blue-tint-screen-no-true-whites.html
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3464-blue-tint/
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/35568-blue-tint-screen.html
http://android.bigresource.com/Samsung-Captivate-Super-Amoled-Blue-Tint-on-Screen-9YDGZWDH5.html
There are many more links about tint issues with super amoled. Like I said, no two screens are alike, and trying to get a replacement might get you one with an even uglier tint.
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First of all dont treat me like I am a noob. I have been on the forums years longer than almost everyone here. Second all of the settings are exactly the same. Same roms and so on. 3rd I never talked about getting a replacement, I am just fine with the one I have so dont EVEN bring this up. I will be buying a 3rd vibrant next week for my daughter and I will see how that one compares. If it is a new model and is just as bright as my wifes then I will think that something has changed. Amoled or not there is no reason why there will be so many differences as you have stated. Here is a thought for you: Is everyones eyes the same.....NOPE. Every person sees colors completely different, no two are the same. I am not going by what other people think I am basing my opinion with my eyes and soon to be 3 different vibrant phones.

Noob... nice op.

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Noob... nice op.
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Thanks.....

xriderx66 said:
its the same...
happened to me yesterday when i got a new one as well..
A guy told me..
that it was because the stock kernel isn't trying to save battery, while the custom kernels you flash are saving battery so they lower their contrast, brightness etc.
Where as Stock kernels go full-out with everything at maximum
Hope i answered your question.
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Thats was I was leaning towards but then I installed the same Rom on it as mine with the exact same settings and it still looks so much better. I almost gave my wife my phone. Lol.

jbatysmallville said:
First of all dont treat me like I am a noob. I have been on the forums years longer than almost everyone here. Second all of the settings are exactly the same. Same roms and so on. 3rd I never talked about getting a replacement, I am just fine with the one I have so dont EVEN bring this up. I will be buying a 3rd vibrant next week for my daughter and I will see how that one compares. If it is a new model and is just as bright as my wifes then I will think that something has changed. Amoled or not there is no reason why there will be so many differences as you have stated. Here is a thought for you: Is everyones eyes the same.....NOPE. Every person sees colors completely different, no two are the same. I am not going by what other people think I am basing my opinion with my eyes and soon to be 3 different vibrant phones.
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I saw nothing in his post that should have made you feel attacked. He answered your question. Isn't that why you started this thread?

thegreatcity said:
I saw nothing in his post that should have made you feel attacked. He answered your question. Isn't that why you started this thread?
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I did not feel attacked but the attitude with the remarks in caps was uncalled for. And yes this is why I started the thread. Tell me what you think and I will be appreciative........ just don't throw it in my face.

Mods....... Please close this thread. I should have kept my opinion to myself. Thanks

jbatysmallville said:
I did not feel attacked but the attitude with the remarks in caps was uncalled for. And yes this is why I started the thread. Tell me what you think and I will be appreciative........ just don't throw it in my face.
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I'm sorry you felt I was giving you attitude with the caps, that wasn't my intent.
I apologize if it came off that way, I was just trying to answer your question and offer some feedback.
I'll change the caps to lower case because I wasn't trying to scream, was just trying to set your mind at ease that your phone is fine.

SamsungVibrant said:
I'm sorry you felt I was giving you attitude with the caps, that wasn't my intent.
I apologize if it came off that way, I was just trying to answer your question and offer some feedback.
I'll change the caps to lower case because I wasn't trying to scream, was just trying to set your mind at ease that your phone is fine.
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Thank you. I appreciate your apology.

jbatysmallville said:
Thank you. I appreciate your apology.
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Couple of things...... One, alot of the people on this forum really do not understand writing etiquette...... I agree actually with you, it very hard to interpret some of the writing as neutral when (intentionally or not) they are couched in sarcasm and innuendo. Now that I got that off my chest........
The Amoled screens, when they were making them in May-Sept, there was a huge shortage because of lack of manufacturing capacity. As a result, alot of the q/c was suspect. Mostly because they did not go the full 100%. Added to that there are limitations in the process (since effectively they are grown (the amoled)and so it is a slower process. Samsung oversold their phones and in June had to start building a 2.1 Billion manufacturing Amoled facility.
Anyway, all this background to say YES the new amoled are of a better quality, I have noticed it as well I got a vibrant for my wife in December and it is a nicer screen view for sure.
Hope that helps

Negative wait til the screen settles in a bit my friend got A 4g and my phone and his ended up looking the same
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Screen has a yellow tint

I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.

RMA

A more ironic comparison could never have been made. LOL!

mk92595 said:
RMA
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I have a feeling that will ultimately be necessary. It just sucks because I REALLY don't feel like dealing with the hassle.

Thats the only benefit of Google Play.
You got your phone first but if I have to RMA (If I ever get the phone) they will send me a replacement first.

Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.

Hope this isn't by design. With LCDs, this could be a bad backlight. Color temp isn't controlled by a backlight with AMOLED, though, so I'm not sure how this could be a hardware problem. More than one phone has been released where manufacturers tried the "warm" color temp route before customers complained and they patched a cooler temp. Even iPhone went through it.

selayan said:
Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.

bholyk said:
I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.
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Most people prefer a cooler display. If it's just the color profile, it'll be fixed by someone in a matter of days. The plus of an open phone.

elkay said:
The plus of an open phone.
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Amen to that

rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.

I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.

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I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.
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It's usually done at the kernel level, but could be made to be adjusted outside of hardcoded settings if coded to do so.

rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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Agreed. Looks like the N6 is more color accurate and the 1plus1 looks blue

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I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.
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I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.

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I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.
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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.

bholyk said:
I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.
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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol

hitzand said:
Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.
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I was thinking the same thing but when I read about it online it said that most of the time if it is a glue issue then the yellowing is more splotchy and not an even full screen distribution. But either way I will give it some time to see what happens

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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Good to know, thanks

New Pixel 2 XL

Dang the new XL is sweet. It's so much better than what we see in the photos. I think they hit it out of the park with this one. Love the always on, the vibration is way better, screen is great.
https://imgur.com/a/eBEbH
Edit, again picture shows now.

Your link doesn’t work

link works for me

He fixed it notice the edit. Ps phone looks great I don’t know why we’re hearing so much complaining about the bezels. They don’t look big at all

The link is working for me. Congrats on receiving your phone so early!

Congratulations..
Can you please check this out for me, it will be very helpful..
please can you check (when screen locked) if the notifications will show as ambient (screen black with notifications text only for a while) when receiving a new notification..? I know there is an always on display feature, but was wondering if still with it the new notifications texts will show on a black screen for a while like the ambient display feature in the old pixel..
Really appreciate if someone can answer..

Is there a way on Pixel phones to edit the nav bar buttons like on most other phones? I like the back button on the right.

jawmail1 said:
Dang the new XL is sweet. It's so much better than what we see in the photos. I think they hit it out of the park with this one. Love the always on, the vibration is way better, screen is great.
https://imgur.com/a/eBEbH
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We need more real world reviews on the screen from Avg Joe consumer. The screen is taking a beating online. Makes me weary. My 6p had that bluish rainbow effect viewing angle issue.
Can you comment more on how the display looks to you personally? So far the reviews are not good.
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whodatfan said:
We need more real world reviews on the screen from Avg Joe consumer. The screen is taking a beating online. Makes me weary. My 6p had that bluish rainbow effect viewing angle issue.
Can you comment more on how the display looks to you personally? So far the reviews are not good.
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Screen looks great to me. I have it about 50%brightness. Even from angles I don't see what the issue is.

Very nice design but.. Screen looks dull as f..
Not just dull but inaccurate.

meboy said:
Very nice design but.. Screen looks dull as f..
Not just dull but inaccurate.
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DELETE
Don't think that would work anyway.

meboy said:
Very nice design but.. Screen looks dull as f..
Not just dull but inaccurate.
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Actually colors are more accurate than any other OLED screen out there. They’re not over saturated like the galaxy phones

AndreaCristiano said:
Actually colors are more accurate than any other OLED screen out there. They’re not over saturated like the galaxy phones
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You have no idea.

meboy said:
You have no idea.
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Actually yes I do

vibrantliker said:
Is there a way on Pixel phones to edit the nav bar buttons like on most other phones? I like the back button on the right.
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I don't believe so without root.

whodatfan said:
We need more real world reviews on the screen from Avg Joe consumer. The screen is taking a beating online. Makes me weary. My 6p had that bluish rainbow effect viewing angle issue.
Can you comment more on how the display looks to you personally? So far the reviews are not good.
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So far the screen is fine. I'm not the right guy to ask about screen this or that so I would defer to the big screen thread. The only thing I do notice is a blue tint when you tilt the screen 20 plus degrees like a lot of the other people have stated but it doesn't really bother me as I almost always look at the screen straight on

In the unboxing videos I've seen, I haven't seen the tool for removing the sim card tray.
Is there one included? I'm not sure I have mine still from my 6P. I'm sure I can use something else, but it would be nice if the new phone came with one.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: so funny. Not 60 seconds after typing this, I click on an unboxing video and the first thing shown is the sim card ejector, which is in with the manual packaging.
Oh well, I hope I get this bad boy soon. My ship date is scheduled for the 24th and I'm hoping for sooner.

Yeah got my phone yesterday as well, screen is different to say the least but the accuracy of color is really gorgeous. Google said they will be releasing a fix for the screen to adjust it or maybe disable SRGB as it's not for everyone but the phone works great, lightning fast, and take everything I throw at it. I have substratum themes running on it now (non rooted) and still the phone works great and looks great.

mdonnelly1127 said:
Yeah got my phone yesterday as well, screen is different to say the least but the accuracy of color is really gorgeous. Google said they will be releasing a fix for the screen to adjust it or maybe disable SRGB as it's not for everyone but the phone works great, lightning fast, and take everything I throw at it. I have substratum themes running on it now (non rooted) and still the phone works great and looks great.
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Is there an option in "Developer Options" to toggle sRGB? With it enabled on my 6P, the colors do look more muted, yet more natural. I was just wondering if the picture color mode can be changed.

chris11882 said:
Is there an option in "Developer Options" to toggle sRGB? With it enabled on my 6P, the colors do look more muted, yet more natural. I was just wondering if the picture color mode can be changed.
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The funny thing is if you go to settings and search for it, it says it's there in developer options, but when you look for it, it's not there lol