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2.2 froyo question

Hey guys, just curious since I havent gotten a chance to use a rooted phone yet.
-When google comes out with 2.2 froyo update, are we able to update it from a rooted rom or does it have to be under stock condition?

+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?

You'd probably have to wait until someone post the stock rom of froyo, and then flash that.

Or flash on of the numerous stock ROMs that already exist, and get OTA like the rest of us.

Or wait for cyan for his release which I believe will be soon after the official release.

You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.

This is a complete non issue. The stock 2.2 rom may very well be available to flash here before you recieve the ota if its a rolling release. If not it will be a close race. BTW, The ota looks for a stock officially signed recovery to install itself with, if you do not have one the ota will fail.

jamesyb0i said:
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
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Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?

ill just wait for cyano to release its froyo version...

I'd be willing to bet that the features present in 2.2 will reach a version of CM before they reach any non-rooted N1. I'm just saying... we already have some of the features currently, i.e. customizable trackball notifications.

that really just depends on when google pushes the sources of 2.2 into AOSP. so chances are that a stock 2.2 will be available sooner than a cyanogen 2.2, but it will be worth the wait

3Shirts said:
Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
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cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol

jamesyb0i said:
cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
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well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it

walie said:
well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
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bazinga!!!

he tasks me, he tasks me.
but naw switched to enom's for now, miss trackball unlock but allgud/ battery heaps better

PrawnPoBoy said:
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
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That's not true. I did a warranty replacement a while back and restored the phone to stock before sending it back. I used the SAPPIMG.zip method to restore the shipping ROM, recovery, and radio. After rebooting and setting up the phone, I was offered the OTA update and the OTA completed successfully. Being bootloader unlocked did not affect my ability to get OTA updates.

A little confusion here it seems and I will throw out my understanding. An ota will work if it does not have to access an officially signed recovery, if it does and does not find one it will fail. Once you have installed a custom recovery going back to the stock one will not help in this regard because it is no longer officially signed. 2.2 will require an officially signed recovery to install and everything I read says it will be seen, it will download, then it will fail to install. If this is incorrect than I look forward to learning more about this question as it keeps popping up over and over. I have yet to hear from any owner who was able to update from 2.0 to 2.1 after having installed a custom recovery, seems like there would have been many....

Holy Hell this update is fast

Well, I had to jump through some hoops to upgrade, but I finally got the 2.2 OTA and it is FAST.
It's even faster than the leaked version I previously had on there.
The hoops:
I was on a rooted 2.2 leak so I had to flash back to 2.1, only the Windows flash utility failed at 97%.
Then I reset, cleared the cache and re-flashed (but this time in Linux) and it worked fine.
I booted into stock 2.1, re-activated my phone and then looked for the OTA.
It was there so I downloaded and installed.
I just finished reinstalling my apps and everything's good to go.

showson1 said:
Well, I had to jump through some hoops to upgrade, but I finally got the 2.2 OTA and it is FAST.
It's even faster than the leaked version I previously had on there.
The hoops:
I was on a rooted 2.2 leak so I had to flash back to 2.1, only the Windows flash utility failed at 97%.
Then I reset, cleared the cache and re-flashed (but this time in Linux) and it worked fine.
I booted into stock 2.1, re-activated my phone and then looked for the OTA.
It was there so I downloaded and installed.
I just finished reinstalling my apps and everything's good to go.
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overall speed-wise? i'm thinking to update mine. I'm on 2.1 stock with root. I'd be bummed to lose root since real HDMI is a godsend. do i have to unroot first?

i wouldnt upgrade if youre rooted. i tried and got stuck at the m logo and bootloader is changed so you wont be able to flash back the 2.1 so id either make sure you dont have any rooted apps and youre unrooted or stay with 2.1

Gotta say, with 2.2+LauncherPro I don't even miss root or custom ROM's.

iamrobk said:
Gotta say, with 2.2+LauncherPro I don't even miss root or custom ROM's.
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Same here, this is my setup too and it's awesome.
If you're rooted or on a 2.2 leak, I would definitely go through the processes of reverting to stock 2.1u1 (via SBF - http://rootzwiki.com/index.php/Smartphones/Motorola/Droid-X/Droid-X.html) before attempting the OTA update.

I hoped to see the OTA this morning but it wasn't there. So I checked for updates & there it was. It loaded fast & with no issues. I had factory 2.1 without root. I love it so far.
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iamrobk said:
Gotta say, with 2.2+LauncherPro I don't even miss root or custom ROM's.
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That's partly due to you clearing off your phone. I sbf'd back to 2.1u1 last night and reapplied the leaked 2.2, root, 2.3.15, tranquility, then serenity, and HOLY SMOKES this is faster than it was before I did this. Like, WICKED fast! And yeah, that's without the bloatware-filled OTA. Got the same system as you do too: 2.3.15, just leaked and deodexed

Except your missing the new radio and kernal Also im running the legit 2.2OTA, and have rooted it via the droid2 method..now just have to manually deodex it and ill be all set
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Just a heads up, I was running full stock 2.1, however I was rooted, and I did the OTA update with 0 problems. I lost root, but used the Droid 2.2 method and got it back. No issues whatsoever.

Joe92T said:
Except your missing the new radio and kernal Also im running the legit 2.2OTA, and have rooted it via the droid2 method..now just have to manually deodex it and ill be all set
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And those benefits are hardly that big.
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Problems with update
has anyone had any issues after update? A friend of mine has the Droid X, he was running original ROM not rooted, and he did the OTA update and is complaining that his phone is running slow and crashes periodically.

SirBrass said:
And those benefits are hardly that big.
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All im saying, is why bother with incomplete leaks? Why not take the little effort and do the real OTA?? I SBF'd back to 2.1.. Then did the OTA 2.2 Update, and then did the automatic 1 click Droid2 Root method.. and had a rooted, legitimate 2.2 update in less then 30 minutes after the initial SBF back down
What your doing is like buying a car with no doors on it.. Why run just the leaked system folder, when you can just get the total package that comes with an updated Radio and Kernal along with it? Why have an incomplete update with some components missing, when its not even that big of a deal to get the actual, 2.2 total package and have it rooted in 5 minutes anyway

Joe92T said:
All im saying, is why bother with incomplete leaks? Why not take the little effort and do the real OTA?? I SBF'd back to 2.1.. Then did the OTA 2.2 Update, and then did the automatic 1 click Droid2 Root method.. and had a rooted, legitimate 2.2 update in less then 30 minutes after the initial SBF back down
What your doing is like buying a car with no doors on it.. Why run just the leaked system folder, when you can just get the total package that comes with an updated Radio and Kernal along with it? Why have an incomplete update with some components missing, when its not even that big of a deal to get the actual, 2.2 total package and have it rooted in 5 minutes anyway
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I think you over-estimate the value of the kernel (which is actually the same version - just a different build-string) and the radio (which is a very small incremental bump in version).
The downsides to the upgrade (for hackers/themers) is that there is no sbf for 2.2 right now and it's been reported that once you OTA, you can not flash back to 2.1 via sbf or you'll brick.
If you're a 'stock' kinda guy, then OTA is probably the way to go. Those that like tinkering a little deeper, need the safety net of an SBF.

I agree. I personally think it would not be smart to OTA at this time if you have the desire to run anything other than stock on your phone (whether you can get root or not). I hear the new OTA doesn't run wireless tether for root users (not sure about this).
I'm still running the original 2.2 leak rooted. After all the problems I've been hearing about with tranquility, I would like to wait until I hear less complaints. Although from what I've read, most of the problems come from user error and people not following the instructions so I'm definitely not knocking P3Droid or Team Black Hat.

We have a system sbf file now for 2.2, that's all youll ever need unless you try something crazy, I have the OTA, rooted and also manually deodexed it myself and running my old theme I liked before.. Adfree is also working fine on my OTA unlike some others... What im saying is im not missing anything over the leak, If anything I have more. The 2.3.15 deodexed leak gives me nothing I don't already have because I was able to deodex and root the official myself.
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My friend's wife just did the ota 2 nights ago and her shortcuts don't work, the stock keyboard is laggy, and the photo gallery is not displaying photos
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Very strange, I haven't had a single problem with anything, and I've used everything you listed...,im even pulling 1490 in quadrants
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And I was pulling similar quadrant scores from the leaks which have the SAME STUFF as the OTA. All they did was increase the version number for the radios and kernel. Even the sbf TBH released isn't the full complete sbf I'd like to have for a safety net (though I trust them when they do say that it is good for everything except folks trying to get out of brick b/c they sbf'd to 2.1u1).
Besides, getting to OTA may be quick, but getting back to where my phone is NOW but with the OTA kernel would take HOURS. No thanks. Not till it is optimized and deodexed and cleaned up by TBH.

Running the OTA, and wile everything works, I'm not seeking an overall speed increase. Some individual things are definitely faster: the browser, gmail, lock screen. But, others are the same, and some, occasionally laggy (may be that's due to my apps? ADWlauncher?).
It's not that the system is slow, just that I don't see any overall boost (certainly not the JIT impact written about in the Froyo coverage).

Compared to 2.1, those things are much snappier. Also, clearing the cache helps with this too.
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confused about rooting

I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...

I used unrEVOked Forever and rooted my phone. It was easy and quick. It rooted it and kept the stock rom. I used it for like 2 weeks then decided I would try Warm. If you use unrEVOked, it should keep the stock rom and be rooted. After that, it's your choice to swap roms. I like Warm because it has the stock Sprint hotspot enabled.

parker81 said:
I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...
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You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.

You don't have to use a custom rom unrevoked installs a stock rooted and you can still update it ota but you loose root if you do custom roms sometimes add some tweaks and functionality that you don't get from stock so they are worth looking at.
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m4rk0358 said:
You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.
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thanks guys for the super fast replies...
i can just use unrEVOked3 right?
it sounds like unrEVOked forever is geared more towards someone want to use custom roms...
i also found this tut..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXWm8262iMU&annotation_id=annotation_81633&feature=iv

Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
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firestetz said:
Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
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i have to use both?

No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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TheMagicalSock said:
No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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Your right it does but if you read on just about any forum here it's not a full unlock but by using unrevoked forever you get s-off or security-off which when you're talking about stock rooted lets you upgrade and root without waiting for someone else to produce a stock rooted update rom.
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Quick OTA question

If there's a ota update and I want to update without being soft bricked... can I go on my one click lag fix undo lag fix undo root and still be able to update without a soft brick?
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Nothing is going to make absolutely sure nothing goes wrong. Plenty of people who had never even rooted their phones had issues with the last original OTA. Its always safer to be as close to stock as possible when doing an OTA update just to be safe though.
Personally, the custom roms are already so stable and well done I can't imagine waiting for the TMO official update. I'm currently running Axura 2.0.5...feeling the Froyo love on a super fast rom. Nothing that comes from TMO is going to be close to this in performance.

KerryG said:
Nothing is going to make absolutely sure nothing goes wrong. Plenty of people who had never even rooted their phones had issues with the last original OTA. Its always safer to be as close to stock as possible when doing an OTA update just to be safe though.
Personally, the custom roms are already so stable and well done I can't imagine waiting for the TMO official update. I'm currently running Axura 2.0.5...feeling the Froyo love on a super fast rom. Nothing that comes from TMO is going to be close to this in performance.
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I agree. I waited on T-Mo and waited on them. Finally said screw it and flashed Axura. Amazing rom. I will not go to an official rom unless it will clean my house for me.

KerryG said:
Nothing is going to make absolutely sure nothing goes wrong. Plenty of people who had never even rooted their phones had issues with the last original OTA. Its always safer to be as close to stock as possible when doing an OTA update just to be safe though.
Personally, the custom roms are already so stable and well done I can't imagine waiting for the TMO official update. I'm currently running Axura 2.0.5...feeling the Froyo love on a super fast rom. Nothing that comes from TMO is going to be close to this in performance.
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Okay thanks for the help can you link me to the rom your using? And when I do flash a new rom.. do I lose my apps and everything
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xriderx66 said:
Okay thanks for the help can you link me to the rom your using? And when I do flash a new rom.. do I lose my apps and everything
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821468, Do a titanium backup and restore for Apps.
Do a search on this page for Titanium Backup Procedure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458

unrooted and went back to stock, don't see gingerbread update.

I was runnings myms 2.2 with clockworkmod and I went back to stock by downloading the stock rom and when I go to update it says no updates available.
I'm wondering if maybe I didn't install a new stock rom or something is wrong.

You can just get a rooted version of the update from this site if you do the ota you will lose root.
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When I heard it was out, I flashed back to the stock rom, and checked for it, but it said my system was up to date. After about a day, though, it asked me if I wanted to update to the new version. Which unfortunately wouldn't install for me. Which is fine, I like CM7 better than sense anyways.
If you haven't seen it yet, just wait a bit, it'll probably show up.

sah0724 said:
I was runnings myms 2.2 with clockworkmod and I went back to stock by downloading the stock rom and when I go to update it says no updates available.
I'm wondering if maybe I didn't install a new stock rom or something is wrong.
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Please find a way to accept the ota! That way I can laugh at you when you are no longer able to root your phone. Why do people feel the need to unroot for an ota????
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Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.

geez, your making this harder than it has to be. you are already rooted. just download the rooted rom and be done with it. you will still be running a stock rom even though your rooted. if you do absolutely nothing with root u can still download and install the rooted stock rom and use it

sah0724 said:
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.
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Then just download and flash the rooted stock rom by xHausx. Done.
It has all the stock apps and stuff. No mods or themes. No one said you need to.do all that stuff if you root. Rooting just gives you the option to do so.
I wanted to root just to get rid of some sprint apps. Then I switched my rom but no other hacking for me.
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sah0724 said:
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.
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When Google releases ice cream sandwich and htc doesn't update the EVO you will wish you were rooted.
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