Youtube HD/HQ? Not really - Galaxy S I9000 General

The stock youtube player on the Galaxy S has a menu option for "high quality" when playing videos, while the so called "Youtube HD" player from the Evo rom has a "HQ" button in the lower right corner. These players seem to do exactly the same thing.
While HQ looks better than regular quality, it still doesn't really shine on our beautiful 480*800 displays.
I hooked up a debugger and launched a few videos available in up to 1080p on youtube. The URL requested by the apps in HQ mode is a 480*270 video!
Does anyone know a hack/app/way to stream full 480p glory (or above) from youtube to our phones?

Nobody?
I tried tubedroid to get an impression of how videos *should* look. Precaching sucks though, and I still can't find a youtube app to actually stream proper quality
Attached are device screenshots of
- Youtube app in "normal" quality
- Youtube app in "high" quality
- Video player playing tubedroid-downloaded clip (HD)
The forum downscales images from 800 to 640, but there's still a very noticable difference...

How about the new mobile youtube site? Looks good to me, but only tried a few secs

You mean in the web browser? Clicking a video there will just prompt you to open the youtube app for playback (optionally tubedroid), so same result.

AyuCon said:
How about the new mobile youtube site? Looks good to me, but only tried a few secs
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I found no way to select the quality in the new mobile interface. You can specify "always use the best quality for my player size" option in the settings of the non-mobile page, but this does not select 720p videos or higher if they are available.
That said, 480 is good enough for me on a 10cm screen.

bookwormat said:
I found no way to select the quality in the new mobile interface. You can specify "always use the best quality for my player size" option in the settings of the non-mobile page, but this does not select 720p videos or higher if they are available.
That said, 480 is good enough for me on a 10cm screen.
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The stock youtube app gives you "270p" (480x270) in HQ mode, not 480p (853x480 or similar). Where and how are you getting 480p on your galaxy?

Carrr said:
The stock youtube app gives you "270p" (480x270) in HQ mode, not 480p (853x480 or similar). Where and how are you getting 480p on your galaxy?
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Nowhere, i just messed up the numbers in my post. Thank you for correcting me.
Carrr said:
You mean in the web browser? Clicking a video there will just prompt you to open the youtube app for playback (optionally tubedroid), so same result.
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No, they have a new mobile interface. It can play videos within the browser, using HTML5's video tag.

bookwormat said:
No, they have a new mobile interface. It can play videos within the browser, using HTML5's video tag.
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I tried both the usual m.youtube.com site, and stopped by youtube.com/html5 to "force" html5.. but the browser still prompts me to open the youtube app when clicking on a video
Which browser and what url are you using?

This sucks how can they not allow HD NOT HQ streaming on an android device I mean vids on YouTube in hd look great on my iPhone 4s but I would like to see hd on my amdroid tablet without using the desktop site.

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New Official WinMo Youtube App

I've been using it on my x1, works alright, but video quality is quite poor and it doesnt play in full screen.
Installing this official youtube app replaces the htc youtube(assuming you have that installed), so it either one or the other, you cant have both apps.
Seems like theres still no way to have high quality youtube playback on the x1with the latest roms, the only way is to use htc youtube app on r1 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495842
Yes, I've also installed this youtube app, but the quality is very bad in my eyes, and the vids start in fullscreen, but then they're resized and so it makes no fun, I didn't watch a single video...
infamous6622 said:
i've been using it on my x1, works alright, but video quality is quite poor and it doesnt play in full screen.
installing this official youtube app replaces the htc youtube(assuming you have that installed), so it ever either one or the other, you cant have both apps.
seems like theres still no way to have hi quality youtube playback on the x1, the only way is to use htc youtube app on r1 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495842
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I also installed it,
and it replaced HTC app in Programs,
but apparently when I use Youtube panel,
it's the htc one..
For high quality youtube playback, you can use CorePlayer 1.3 It has configurable video quality - from very low to very high. It works very good.
I second that, the coreplay has the best video and buffering quality.
Does it still choke like the old youtube app?
infamous6622 said:
I've been using it on my x1, works alright, but video quality is quite poor and it doesnt play in full screen.
Seems like theres still no way to have high quality youtube playback on the x1with the latest roms, the only way is to use htc youtube app on r1 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495842
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Poor or not quality I did not notice, but the playback is very choppy even when fully buffered. It was however perfectly smooth on my other Samsung WM phone.
There are however other means to get youtube. W.V.D. and Coreplayer are two that comes to my mind other than HTC's
infamous6622 said:
Installing this official youtube app replaces the htc youtube(assuming you have that installed), so it either one or the other, you cant have both apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495842
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No it doesn't. Before installing, go to File Explorer and Windows>Start Menu and rename the youtube you have as Youtube HTC or anyother so that the installation of this client won't override the HTC's Youtube shortcut.
If you forgot however and installed without any preparations, you can go to Windows folder(or somewhere else) in File Explorer and look for the HTC's Youtube shortcut which is 25B big.

Poor Youtube Video Quality with Hero

Today at Sprint store I played the same YouTube video on the Hero and the Pre side by side. The Pre looked great, the Hero had a very low frame rate and poor resolution. I hope someone can tell me something was wrong with the Hero and it is not always like this.
I am seriously considering buying a Hero and have been spending a lot of time at my local Sprint story getting to know it. Today I was trying out flash video on many sites and they all looked bad like I described above. I just assumed the videos had a poor source until I tried a YouTube video on the Pre. It is hard to believe all the reviews I have been seeing of the Hero wouldn't have hammered it for this if it were a common problem.
maybe the reviews didn't hammer it since at the time the choice was 'average flash performance' vs 'no flash at all'... I always watch youtube vids in the You Tube app which plays them smooth as silk, even in HD (with the occasional flutter)
If the need for smooth Flash animations takes precedence over the 1001 other unbelievably high quality aspects of the HTC Hero, then you should probably just buy a Pre like all the other dorks...
The quality of the video on the actual YouTube app is way superior to that you will get going onto the main site via the browser and the HTC Flash player.
Regards,
Dave
I'm not sure if the YouTube app chooses the video quality for you or not based on your connection. But, if the video starts off on low quality, just hit the menu button, choose "more" on the pop-up menu, and then select High Quality. It's crystal clear after that.
Thanks for the replies. I will try to get back to the Sprint store today and try out the video quality options.
How do I know if the video is playing in the YouTube app or not? The video I tried played full screen. Must I navigate there from a separate app than the browser?
Erik
it is true, i did not know that. I usually watched videos through the site. Tried the youtube app on my hero and it is indeed crystal clear. Cool
erikcave said:
Thanks for the replies. I will try to get back to the Sprint store today and try out the video quality options.
How do I know if the video is playing in the YouTube app or not? The video I tried played full screen. Must I navigate there from a separate app than the browser?
Erik
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It is a physically separate app from which you can search/view Youtube videos. It came preloaded on my GSM Hero, so I assume it's still on the Sprint Hero.
If you go to Youtube via the browser, it launches the HTC Flash Player when you try to view a video, and this is quite poor! Thinking about it, I think on the G1 if you were on YouTube in a browser, it would launch any videos via the Youtube app (since it doesn't have a flash player).
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Dave
It seems the phone should be smart enough to know you are loading YouTube videos and load the YouTube player instead of the HTC Flash Player.
erikcave said:
It seems the phone should be smart enough to know you are loading YouTube videos and load the YouTube player instead of the HTC Flash Player.
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I think the "idea" is that if you have flash, you don't need the YouTube app. Sadly, it's a bad idea!
Regards,
Dave
bboydru said:
I'm not sure if the YouTube app chooses the video quality for you or not based on your connection. But, if the video starts off on low quality, just hit the menu button, choose "more" on the pop-up menu, and then select High Quality. It's crystal clear after that.
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exactly what I do and the quality is awesome, suck that the app wont allow you to choose HD for all videos.
Good advice in this thread and I would like too add I do not miss it Pre one bit. That device has some serious flaws not likely to be addressed for another year. Namely its weak SDK, lack of deep system / hardware access and lack of GPU support. The Pre can't use its own hardware properly much less the lack of options in all of the OS.
Vertig0 said:
exactly what I do and the quality is awesome, suck that the app wont allow you to choose HD for all videos.
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Wait, are you saying you have to do tell it to play high quality every time? That would suck indeed, and would be a serious oversight in functionality.
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erikcave said:
Wait, are you saying you have to do tell it to play high quality every time? That would suck indeed, and would be a serious oversight in functionality.
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Yes you do unless on WiFi. Then I think it automatically goes into high quality mode
Pre vs and youtube
I stoped by a Bell to try a Pre and compared it to my HTC touch on same Bell network, yes picture was great on Pre but it was slow, in fact I gave up waiting for it to load some video as my touch was playing them in half the time. Today at work we had my touch on bell a Touch 2 Pro on Telus and a iPhone on rogers, all playing the same video from You Tube and nothing compared to the touch pro 2 for quality video was HD looking and played without jumping, the IPhone 3gs crashed tohe sound quit working we had to restart it, and it then worked but picture of video was not full screen as the other two had. Big differance was the way they handled buffering the IPhone buffered all at first then played non-stop the other two would play a few seconds then buffer for up to 2 minutes play a few seconds then again buffer. I then played my IPod Touch same video but wifi, again video did not fit all the screen but no buffering and no digitaizing. So all in all a big disapointment with all three networks and their ability to play streaming HD video!
I was at the Sprint store again today and tried to enable high quality, but could never find the setting. I pressed the menu button over and over again while the video was playing, but it never did anything. Also, I intentionally loaded a video via the YouTube App and the quality was still bad. Furthermore I rebooted the device to be sure it wasn't just loaded down with running programs.
Weird
With the video on you press menu > more > watch high quality.
That's what I did. I pushed the menu button next to the trackball and nothing happened. No menu appeared. I also pushed every other button and the touched the screen.

[Q] playing 1080p video on youtube site or youtube app

Is there a way for the transformer to play 1080p without stuttering? I know the hardware is pretty capable yet how come it cant even play 1080p without stuttering? The blackberry playbook plays 1080p flawlessly.
Click on the search box, type in flash video and read any of the dozens of threads on the subject.
If you would like short answers though - No and because it's a new OS with unoptimized software for the hardware in question which MAY eventually be up to the task of playing 1080p.
Also... you know there aren't that many dots on your screen right?
j0n4z said:
Is there a way for the transformer to play 1080p without stuttering? I know the hardware is pretty capable yet how come it cant even play 1080p without stuttering? The blackberry playbook plays 1080p flawlessly.
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Hi
I have been on here a few times complaining about flash performance. Through the You Tube Application I did manage to stream both the Lord of the Rings and Batman Dark Knight trailers at 1080p with smooth performance. Looks brilliant.
Through the web browser I cant even stream 720p. Somtimes the You tube application struggles and buffers even with my 30 mb connection. Wonder if this is somthing to do with the network speed rather than it being the hardware and if somthing is off slightly be it with your wireless connection speed or the you tube network it falls over?
findmike said:
Also... you know there aren't that many dots on your screen right?
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True. but there is a mini HDMI connection on the side.
andyzarins said:
Hi
I have been on here a few times complaining about flash performance. Through the You Tube Application I did manage to stream both the Lord of the Rings and Batman Dark Knight trailers at 1080p with smooth performance. Looks brilliant.
Through the web browser I cant even stream 720p. Somtimes the You tube application struggles and buffers even with my 30 mb connection. Wonder if this is somthing to do with the network speed rather than it being the hardware and if somthing is off slightly be it with your wireless connection speed or the you tube network it falls over?
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Adobe has this in their flash player 10.3 description, this should answer your question.
"For optimal performance and the most immersive experience on Android 3.1 tablets, view Flash Player delivered content in full screen by using the menu buttons provided by content providers, or by tapping content once followed by a long tap to bring down a button in the upper left corner which can be tapped to enable full screen mode."
What don't I know about this?
I just played several 1080p HD vids on my TF without stuttering...no problem.

Youtube 1080p

Hi
Is it possible in any way to play 1080p youtube in video mode?
I want to see the videos but in a TV using the MHL cable, and If I see the videos in the browser using flash the MHL cable only shows 800x480 in the TV scaling. So, I want any mode to play 1080p like a local video to see the output in 1080p with nice quality.
Any idea?
Hi there, you can use an app called Tubemate, found on market. You can select the video quality you wish, and it downloads it to your phone.
Bassarnis said:
Hi there, you can use an app called Tubemate, found on market. You can select the video quality you wish, and it downloads it to your phone.
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Let's try...
e-RickNET said:
Let's try...
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well??? hehe
I use tubemate its one of my most used apps and you can save mp3 music files of you tube so basic you can download your music from YouTube videos double nice
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hi, watch your video in a web browser instead of youtube app, when in browser choose "desktop" mode and you can simply select 1080p in the same way as if you were watching it on a PC. Click the video to drop into full screen mode and voila you have 1080p on you TV through MHL.
Dont bother with other apps, just more faffing, I never browse in mobile mode, I also use full desktop on the S2, mobile browser is too cut down.

[HowTo] Watch videos in youtube with higher quality than youtube's application

Ok, some of you may already know about this but allow me please to make this thread for people who dont know and rely on youtube's app to watch their videos. I was constantly being annoyed of watching videos in the official youtube app which are supposed to be hd but they all would look like blurred and of low quality, although i had selected in settings the HQ (High Quality) option. The problem is that these videos are being played in standard 480p definition and there's nothing you can do about it. Here's how its done:
4.2 JB
1) Install Mozilla's Firefox Browser from playstore (unfortunately chrome does not support flash)
2) Download and install manually Adobe's Flash player from here http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html Scroll down where it says Flash Player 11.1 for Android 4.0 and download the latest version 11.1.115.81
3) Open Firefox, go to settings->display->plugins and select enabled
4) Still in Firefox go to tools->Add-ons->Browse all firefox add-ons, search for the add-on Phony and install it
5) Now under settings there is an option named Phony, press it and under Select User Agent chose Desktop Firefox. Finally restart the firefox
4.4 KitKat
1) Install Dolphin Browser and Dolphin Jetpack from the playstore
2) In doplhin's settings menu enable the flash player (always on), enable the dolphin jetpack and select for user agent desktop
3) Install the hacked flash player from here
Now you re set. Put the url of youtube, navigate to the video you want to watch and press the little gear in the bottom right corner of youtube's video, select 720p or 1080p if the video supports it and watch it in really high definition. Needless to say that i never used youtube's app anymore to watch my videos as i can manage my playlists, turn on or off the annotations, put captions etc. like i do in my desktop computer
*ALTERNATIVE APP* If you want to stay away from the trouble of installing flash player and you want to use an app for viewing youtube videos you should check the Viral Floating Youtube Popup app. It supports hd playback, a resizable player to run along with other apps, background playback and many other cool features. Check the developer's original thread here.
You do realize all that is unnecessary, right? All you have to do is install flash, run the native LG browser, and switch to desktop view. Youtube will then allow 1080p resolution via the gear icon.
Fantastic guide, being stuck on 480p was not very helpful as many of the videos for me came out blurry and not to the full definition. Now I am able to watch videos I have uploaded to the internet in full HD, thank you so much for the guide and for it to be in-depth, as I hate guides which are only a few sentences. The 1080p will work best depending on your internet, as I have fast internet in my house so it should not be a problem with lag etc.
Reckoning said:
You do realize all that is unnecessary, right? All you have to do is install flash, run the native LG browser, and switch to desktop view. Youtube will then allow 1080p resolution via the gear icon.
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Thank you, all I did was install flash and then it worked.
It's completely ridiculous that we have to do even that though, I can't believe that the youtube app's "HD" is still not even proper 720.
Try the app on my sig
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Try the app on my sig
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I ve used your app but i can only change resolution to 720p and not to 1080p as well as it crashes quite often when i press to play in the background. I use pvstar+ now which runs perfectly but it doesnt support hd resolution. In my humble opinion the best way is to watch the videos from firefox
katsika said:
I ve used your app but i can only change resolution to 720p and not to 1080p as well as it crashes quite often when i press to play in the background. I use pvstar+ now which runs perfectly but it doesnt support hd resolution. In my humble opinion the best way is to watch the videos from firefox
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480p and 1080p are now not available in any app since google split the streams in to. 720p should work fine. Can you grab a log of the crash?
You can try another way for background play, press the pop-up icon, then in the pop-up window, press minimise.
ermacwins said:
480p and 1080p are now not available in any app since google split the streams in to. 720p should work fine. Can you grab a log of the crash?
You can try another way for background play, press the pop-up icon, then in the pop-up window, press minimise.
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I switched to your app as pvstar doesnt support hd. I have to admit that your app is the best of its kind, everything is nicely organised and the best feature by far is the background and resizable player, this app is definitely worthy 5 stars. I understand now the reason that you dont have 1080p, anyway there isnt any noticeable difference between 720p and 1080p in this tablet's display. When i had first installed it some weeks ago i noticed that it crashed 2 or 3 times after some long usage and displaying the same error every time, i dont remember it exactly though, something about "we re sorry but the application has crashed"?. I dont know how to take a log if that happens again, maybe you could tell me a way or i could get a screenshot and report it if it happens again. Keep up the good work mate.
I have a GPE and can't get flash to work in Firefox, Dolphin, or the AOSP browser. Works on my GNex. Puzzling.
I can't see the sig, but have you tried og youtube from XDA?
There you should be able to select the qualitiy you want.
Additional, it has a download button
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windfrenzy said:
I have a GPE and can't get flash to work in Firefox, Dolphin, or the AOSP browser. Works on my GNex. Puzzling.
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On GPE You need a hacked flash player for KitKat. There's download link in OP point 2, here:
[Guide][Flash]How to play flash video on Android 4.4 Kitkat
Install latest Dolphin browser from play store, enable jetpack in settings and flash. I personally set flash in Dolphin 'on demand' just not to see all this flash adverts on web pages.
Works good on my nexus 5.
Ah, that's it. I have 4.3 on the GNex. Thanks for the link to the hacked flash--it's working. The app in the sig, is "viral". It looks cool, but I haven't tried it yet.
windfrenzy said:
Ah, that's it. I have 4.3 on the GNex. Thanks for the link to the hacked flash--it's working. The app in the sig, is "viral". It looks cool, but I haven't tried it yet.
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Which app and in whose signature do you mean is viral? Did you scan it with antivirus and it dejected some virus on it?
LMT from my signature was the reason I rooted my first phone. It's outstanding with customizations. It works even on not rooted devices (except of back and menu buttons), you can still make shortcuts to lot of apps to start them from pie.
You need root for full functionality.
Meisterqn said ermacwins sig wasn't visible, so I was saying that the app being referred in that post is named "viral".
Meisterqn said:
I can't see the sig, but have you tried og youtube from XDA?
There you should be able to select the qualitiy you want.
Additional, it has a download button
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Heres the app that is on the sig https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Mata.YTplayer
ermacwins said:
Heres the app that is on the sig https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Mata.YTplayer
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I've got this app and the quality looks miles better than youtube app, which looks grainy and pixelated.
Only thing is, all video's are set to 720p with no option to go into 1080p.
Is that normal, or this something with youtube? Also im using Mahdi Rom.
Pman1342 said:
I've got this app and the quality looks miles better than youtube app, which looks grainy and pixelated.
Only thing is, all video's are set to 720p with no option to go into 1080p.
Is that normal, or this something with youtube? Also im using Mahdi Rom.
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google removed 480p and 1080p support as they are separate streams so normal and no other apps has 1080p...
ermacwins said:
google removed 480p and 1080p support as they are separate streams so normal and no other apps has 1080p...
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Oh that's nice too know. Strange google don't support 1080p on devices,
Thanks for the app mention, Viral has soooo many options that I can play around with, im all in for customisation
Pman1342 said:
Oh that's nice too know. Strange google don't support 1080p on devices,
Thanks for the app mention, Viral has soooo many options that I can play around with, im all in for customisation
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just check out the theme section in settings...

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