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Here is my latest application SMS Switch which can trigger a command line based on the SMS received.
Built with the idea of ‘Push LIKE mail’ where the device gets the SMS notification on ‘New mail’ from your email service. rk-SMS Switch intercepts the SMS and based on the SMS sender and/or message text executes the command line (such as \Windows\tmail.exe) to synchronize the emails.
Required:
Your device is able to synchronize the emails using pocket outlook.
Your device receives the SMS notification on new mail message.
Uses:
Push LIKE mail
Not wasting bandwidth for keep checking the server at regular intervals.
Saving the battery since you do not need always on gprs.
If you have multiple email accounts and want to make use of wifi network etc, then you might want to check up my other application rk-OSR which has support for command line execution.
This is just an idea and initial version. Let me know if you guys like it.
(Updated latest working version 1.0.4)
Version 1.0.4
Supports square screens(320 X 320)
Version 1.0.3
Now the triggerring SMS are automatically removed from your inbox! All normal SMS will only appear in the SMS inbox.
Now the application can be activated by the menu short cuts etc. No need to go to today screen. New option added to put it to tray or not.
Not tested much as I do not have SMS plans to play with each SMS i send to test get charged
Version 1.0.2 Hotfix
Bug fix: Please do not use version 1.0.1 which has a issue to sync up outlook and unusable.
Version 1.0.1 Updates
Separate tabs added for command line OR Outlook use.
If using the command line to invoke rk-OSR then timeout option added so that if multiple sms received only one the command line is executed(based on the timeout)
If want to sync up only one account then use the 'Outlook' option and only configure the 'Outlook' tab.
If using outlook show/hide outlook option added.
Since I am using Windows Live Push mail I am not using this application so you will be the tester!
If you like the application please show your support by donation on Paypal
Download from here
thank again great work
This is a great concept. I don't need it, as I don't push email to my phone, but I might now with this great program.
great program! if only i had data plan, so sad
How does this work?
I tried to run it, and nothing happened. I keep clicking the icon it placed in my start menu, and I can't figure out how to configure anything.
This sounds like a great solution, if it works that is...
It needs some documentation!
EDIT: found it on the today screen. Gosh, I wouldn't have known to look there!
Now, my question is how to manage the incoming sms it creates... If I receive a bunch of emails, I now have a bunch of SMS messages cluttering up my inbox. Can anyone think of a good way to hide the incoming SMS and silently delete it?
Dishe said:
Now, my question is how to manage the incoming sms it creates... If I receive a bunch of emails, I now have a bunch of SMS messages cluttering up my inbox. Can anyone think of a good way to hide the incoming SMS and silently delete it?
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Yes, I know the SMS needs to be cleared, Hopefully in the next version.
thank youuuuuuuuuuu i like it
tytnguy said:
Yes, I know the SMS needs to be cleared, Hopefully in the next version.
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Yeah, cuz that extra step sort of kills the whole convenience of it...
what I *used* to do when I wanted to save battery power, is forward my gmail to my sms address, and when I saw the first 160 chars with my sms, I'd delete it, go over to outlook and fetch new mail.
With this, at least I don't have to actually click fetch new mail, but it still requires manual deletion, so its not a complete solution yet. :/
looking forward to the next version then...
By the way, how do u get sms notifications for your email? Do you just forward a copy of your email to your sms address? Because if doing it that way, how do u tell the difference between what is coming from your email and what is just something someone sent to your sms directly?
if someone sends you an sms, most likely they will send it through a phone number. if forwarded from an email, the sender will not be a phone number, most likely an email address or some other sender info that is separate from a standard phone number like you would get from a normal sms.
I think that's how it works.
I currently do the same style as you. have gmail forward me an sms of the email message. if it looks important i go to outlook and download the entire message.
Dishe said:
... how do u get sms notifications for your email? Do you just forward a copy of your email to your sms address?
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Well, For me I use windows live so actually I do not need it . But I thought it might be a battery saver so developed it.
Dishe said:
...how do u tell the difference between what is coming from your email and what is just something someone sent to your sms directly?
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The field 'From' contains... Should have a partial email address... May be @Gmail.com(I am not sure about how you get emails forwarded, check the text message from address and set it)
You could also use 'Message' Contains option to check only if there is a predefined text in the message.
To use either of the two options use 'OR' option.
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The field 'From' contains... Should have a partial email address... May be @Gmail.com(I am not sure about how you get emails forwarded, check the text message from address and set it)
You could also use 'Message' Contains option to check only if there is a predefined text in the message.
To use either of the two options use 'OR' option.
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ah, see gmail is good enough to leave the message intact exactly as it is recieved, original sender and all. So, as I said, there's no way to tell it was forwarded from gmail at all.
Maybe what I should do then is forward to hotmail or something that DOESNT leave everything intact, and from THERE forward to my inbox... a bit backwards...
yes i agree. gmail is good in that they are generous enough to convert the email address to only showing the Sender's name. normally this is appreciated, but in this case, it makes things a bit more complicated as now like Dishe said, it is impossible to distinguish between a normal sms and one being forwarded by gmail.
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EDIT: I may have a work around. When GMAIL forwards an email to your phone with an sms notification, the sms contains the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" within the body of the SMS as part of the actual text message.
The program lets you set a filter for the FROM field and/or the MESSAGE field. So using the program, you can put the filter to either one of the three "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" instead of the default "@". This would eliminate the need to know that it was forwarded from GMail at all.
This would solve the problem because regular SMS when sent does not show the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" in the body of the sms. in theory it looks like works, i havent tested it. i installed the program, can you please let me know what is the command line argument to have it send/receive?
Right now i have the command line sent to windows/tmail.exe and it just opens the email prog. I guess i need the argument too to have it actually send/receive.
NguyenHuu said:
...I may have a work around. When GMAIL forwards an email to your phone with an sms notification, the sms contains the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" within the body of the SMS as part of the actual text message.
The program lets you set a filter for the FROM field and/or the MESSAGE field. So using the program, you can put the filter to either one of the three "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" instead of the default "@". This would eliminate the need to know that it was forwarded from GMail at all.
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Nice suggestion NguyenHuu!. It should work as you suggested
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... can you please let me know what is the command line argument to have it send/receive?
Right now i have the command line sent to windows/tmail.exe and it just opens the email prog. I guess i need the argument too to have it actually send/receive.
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Try the cammand line as follows
Commanline ----> \Windows\tmail.exe
Arguments------> -service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
Where "Gmail Account Name" should be the name of your account as typed on the pocket outlook and double quotes are required.
it worked! i tested it three times.
1. sent regular sms via a IM application on PC (AIM).
2. sent SMS via another cell phone.
3. had email forwarded through gmail to phone
i used FRM: for FROM contains, and SUBJ: for Message contains. I chose teh "OR" option.
worked as planned. the first two regular sms was sent without activating the inbox syncing. the third time when gmail forwarded the email to my phone sms, since it contained the field: FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" it automtically sync my inbox.
one thing though, it automatically syncs the inbox which is great but it does so in the background so you still need to go to the inbox then go to the message to read it. is it possible to make it so after it syncs, it opens the actual inbox so you can see your list of unread emails? maybe through adding to the argument?
NguyenHuu said:
it worked! i tested it three times.
1. sent regular sms via a IM application on PC (AIM).
2. sent SMS via another cell phone.
3. had email forwarded through gmail to phone
i used FRM: for FROM contains, and SUBJ: for Message contains. I chose teh "OR" option.
worked as planned. the first two regular sms was sent without activating the inbox syncing. the third time when gmail forwarded the email to my phone sms, since it contained the field: FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" it automtically sync my inbox.
one thing though, it automatically syncs the inbox which is great but it does so in the background so you still need to go to the inbox then go to the message to read it. is it possible to make it so after it syncs, it opens the actual inbox so you can see your list of unread emails? maybe through adding to the argument?
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The problem that I mentioned before was that ALL EMAIL sent to [email protected] will have FRM:, SUBJ:, MSG in the body, whether it comes from gmail or not.
Sometimes, if I'm at my desk and want to remember something, I'll send an email to my phone's sms address. Also, I have freinds with data plans and no sms plans who email to sms ([email protected]) all the time.
Your solution could not differentiate between those emails sent purposely to an sms address versus ones meant to trigger syncing.
Right now, its not a big problem yet since the app doesnt delete the trigger sms. But at the same time, I hate having to clear two independant inboxes of new messages now (both email and the sms trigger need clearing), so I need the function to remove the trigger after it syncs eventually.
If the email wasnt supposed to be a trigger, you can understand why this may prove problematic.
hmmm...
NguyenHuu said:
great program! if only i had data plan, so sad
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I Know! Outrageous prices, to put it mildly.
xd1936 said:
I Know! Outrageous prices, to put it mildly.
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heh, mine's free. Not to brag or anything, but Sprint over here in the states has killer 3G data plans. I'm just looking to maximize my meager battery life.
EDIT: By the way, TyTnGuy, I went to set up a hotmail/windows live account so that I could try forwarding email THERE and then have THAT forward to my sms with the @hotmail account in the header, but guess what? Live/Hotmail doesn't support forwarding AT ALL!!
So, it looks to me like you couldn't possibly have gotten this to work yourself... What are you not telling us?
he said he doesnt need the program since he uses live mail which should have its own pushlike mail in wm. he creating the program for people who may need it, and specifically cited gmail in his example. i think haha.
i am still trying to figure out if there is a commandline argument that opens up the inbox after it syncs. that's a really good thing to have i think. right after you get the notifications, the inbox opens and you can see all your unread email.
i am about to set up a dataplan, not just for this but for other business, and so that is why, despite my earlier comment about not having a dataplan, i am so interested in it now haha. better then polling every X-minutes indeed.
sorry to bring this back up. anyone happen to know the command line argument to open up inbox?
this is the current argument that makes it sync when you get a sms notification: service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
that works fine, but it does so in the background. I was hoping there is more to the argument where after it syncs it opens the inbox for you. or it open inbox then sync is fine too
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sorry to bring this back up. anyone happen to know the command line argument to open up inbox?
this is the current argument that makes it sync when you get a sms notification: service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
that works fine, but it does so in the background. I was hoping there is more to the argument where after it syncs it opens the inbox for you. or it open inbox then sync is fine too
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I am working on a next version I will do something to support the above request.
When I go to compose a new SMS message and type in the first few letters of the recipient, I get a list of contact details, but they include email addresses and I only want mobile phone numbers, is there a way to do that?
Thanks.
max1274 said:
When I go to compose a new SMS message and type in the first few letters of the recipient, I get a list of contact details, but they include email addresses and I only want mobile phone numbers, is there a way to do that?
Thanks.
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I've no idea to remove it, but I wonder why the hell it's there in the first place. I've tried it, and it just doesn't work.
My answer would be to just ignore it, but it is a tad strange that it's there in the first place.
It's annoying as I have so many more email addresses than mobile phone numbers, which means the number I want to use is a long way down the list. Very annoying.
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It's annoying as I have so many more email addresses than mobile phone numbers, which means the number I want to use is a long way down the list. Very annoying.
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So when you type a name in, you have many email addresses for every person you ever send an SMS to? I doubt that many of your friends have multiple email address. Maybe a couple.
If you're complaining because the list has multiple people in it, you simply need to type a couple more letters to narrow down the search. It really isn't that big a deal. You'll get used to doing it correctly after a while.
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So when you type a name in, you have many email addresses for every person you ever send an SMS to? I doubt that many of your friends have multiple email address. Maybe a couple.
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No they don't, but I have a lot of contacts who only have an email address and no mobile number, and they still appear. Typing in a few more letters is fine, but for contacts who have similar names this is still annoying, and is a step backwards from the old functionality.
If you only want to send the text to one person you can go to the contact first, then press "Send Message"
Help me out please, I don't know much about windows mobile or windows in general so maybe this is a stupid question.. if so I'm sorry for posting
While I was searching the registry for a value I could maybe change to confirm the sending of an sms or email message, as I often hit "send" in the bottom of the screen by accident while still typing the message, I stumbled on this strange value.
in HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMsgEnhance\IPC\ are four keys/folders: Calendar, Email, MMS and SMS
All are empty except for "Email" that has 5 values whereunder the value named "Email", and it's value is "[email protected]"
Now I know I never visited this forum from my phone, nor have I received email from this forum on my phone..
I run a WWE 1.48.405.2 original ROM but I did download it from the original ROM section on this site.. now I have a feeling it was cooked. but then why put the webmasters email in there. so probably not..
Can someone maybe help me explain what this means? or if you have the same ROM, maybe look in your phones what the value of that key is?
Or maybe has a solution for the send message confirmation but I guess I should make a seperate topic for that..
Any help is much appreciated!
On mine (also 1.48 ROM, downloaded from HTC support), it's my hotmail account, which is the main email address on my phone.
Curious to see what others have in theirs, or what it says directly after a hard reset.
Are you sure you've not been messing and simply typed this in somewhere?
In my standard stock ROM are all entries empty
Thanks for checkin!
I'm thinking and thinking but I can't remember typing anything like that in my phone and I only have for two weeks.. the only thing that had to do with this site was the subscription mail that is listed in my IMAP mailbox on the phone, but I'm sure I never opened it or replied to it or anything..
I guess that means you're the webmaster at xda-developers then. Shall we forward all our queries to you in future
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I guess that means you're the webmaster at xda-developers then. Shall we forward all our queries to you in future
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lol! Sorry if I don't reply.. I can't get into the account..!
I did a hard reset and now it's clear.. I decided not to worry about it anymore..
I'm connected to my jobs Exchange server and on mine this registry key contains the e-mail to my employers HelpDesk. Don't know if that helps clarifying anything ...
bel_z_bub said:
in HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMsgEnhance\IPC\ are four keys/folders: Calendar, Email, MMS and SMS
All are empty except for "Email" that has 5 values whereunder the value named "Email", and it's value is "[email protected]"
Now I know I never visited this forum from my phone, nor have I received email from this forum on my phone..
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On mine, the value is an address I really have sent to.
Thanks that confirms my thoughts.. I figured it's the last address used in the email app.. so probably I have opened the confirmation mail in the list mail and tapped reply all by accident or something..
anyone maybe has a solution for a confirmation before sending an sms or email? I sometimes tap send by accident while still typing the message.. I'd rather have it ask me if I want to send the message with a popup like it does so often with other things that don't need it.. is there a tweak for it?
I know there's a tweak for the "message sent" alert.. but that's like rubbing it in after I've sent it by accident..
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anyone maybe has a solution for a confirmation before sending an sms or email? I sometimes tap send by accident while still typing the message.. I'd rather have it ask me if I want to send the message with a popup like it does so often with other things that don't need it.. is there a tweak for it?
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Yeap it is dangerous. I just mis-sent a mail. Because the send key is the left soft key. I tap the left to go to "Inbox", and two accidental taps led to "Reply All" and "Send" done before I know what is happening.
For POP3 accounts, you can turn off "send immediately" in options advanced settings. For Exchange, seems there is nothing you can do.
So my Girlfriend is living in japan for now and she gave me the handy email address that is linked to her phone(blahblah at i.softbank.jp) so i can text her without getting hit with international rates... but the problem is, when i text her from my phone in handcent and the stock messaging app it sends as a MMS... which is annoying because when she replies it sends a lot of sprint mumbo jumbo with it instead of just the text she sent. is there a way to stop the phone from automatically changing my text into a MMS when sending a text to an Email Address??
I don't know the answer to your question, but could I offer suggestions?
You didn't say what kind of phone she has. Is it android? If it is, you could get her a gmail account and use google talk. Another idea could be to have both of you open an account with someplace like msn, aol, icq, yahoo, etc and just use the im program that's on just about every phone I've seen. I would think that way wouldn't rack up international charges.
I'm sure there are other possibilities to communicate relatively quickly without extra charges.
or just use gmail to text the number
or use the google voice app to text/email the number
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or just use gmail to text the number
or use the google voice app to text/email the number
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thanks for the suggestions but... it seems like using gmail wont be as instant since i would have to refresh the app every minute just to see if there was a reply and then with google voice i cant send a text to an email address and sending a text directly to her number wouldn't work because she'll have to break the bank to reply to me since the number is still a US number.
i mean holy *&[email protected]
is a refresh too much to ask for? lol guess you really dont wanna talk to her THAT bad
Internet instant messaging programs don't, or shouldn't, care where on the earth you are as PNG as you are connected to the net.
As for the refresh issue, I'd think it would almost be instant. Maybe a minute or two at the most normally. Your phone does need sync on for your gmail account for the email to come in almost instant
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but the problem is, when i text her from my phone in handcent and the stock messaging app it sends as a MMS... which is annoying because when she replies it sends a lot of sprint mumbo jumbo with it
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Are you sure that it's your phone that is sending the MMS?
Her carrier in Japan could be converting the email to MMS to send to her phone, and as such, she replies in MMS.
ace27 said:
it seems like using gmail wont be as instant
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Gtalk.
Folks,
Weird question/issue. I have a google group contacts set up. When I try to send a group SMS it converts the message to MMS with the following reason "some recipients only have email addresses saved, not phone numbers. To there email addresses the message will be converted to a multimedia message"
The weird thing is, all the recipients have phone numbers, plus this worked with my htc one x, plus worked with a SMS app called "Textra". I've even checked every recipient in the group, and each one has a phone number.
I've tried using WANAM, but still get the same issue.
any ideas ?
I think I found a bug. By removing the email address associated with the contact, saving it, re-adding the email address back in has seemed to have fixed the issue. I can now use the stock SMS App, without Wanam and it sends group SMS now.. Bizzare !
trevagreene said:
I think I found a bug. By removing the email address associated with the contact, saving it, re-adding the email address back in has seemed to have fixed the issue. I can now use the stock SMS App, without Wanam and it sends group SMS now.. Bizzare !
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Also found that if I remove the email address from gmail logged onto a pc, then re-add the email directly on the contact using the phone it works as well.
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trevagreene said:
Folks,
Weird question/issue. I have a google group contacts set up. When I try to send a group SMS it converts the message to MMS with the following reason "some recipients only have email addresses saved, not phone numbers. To there email addresses the message will be converted to a multimedia message"
The weird thing is, all the recipients have phone numbers, plus this worked with my htc one x, plus worked with a SMS app called "Textra". I've even checked every recipient in the group, and each one has a phone number.
I've tried using WANAM, but still get the same issue.
any ideas ?
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I have this exact same issue, 9 people in an Google Group, when I send an email to that group, I get the same message and each have phone numbers and email addresses. Now I have create two groups, one with phone numbers and one with email addresses. Does anyone have a fix (not a workaround)?
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I have this exact same issue, 9 people in an Google Group, when I send an email to that group, I get the same message and each have phone numbers and email addresses. Now I have create two groups, one with phone numbers and one with email addresses. Does anyone have a fix (not a workaround)?
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I havent found a solution other than the work around I use. It's a pain in the arsXXXe but unfortunately other than using a different SMS app I cant find a solution.