Am i meant to charge it full before i turn it on for the first time?
powlesY said:
Am i meant to charge it full before i turn it on for the first time?
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I was also told to charge for 4 hours.. but it is no longer needed for Li-Ion,Li-poly batteries.. even the user manual doesn't say anything about initial charging..
Page 12 of the user manual..
"When the battery is fully charged (the battery icon is
no longer moving), unplug the travel adapter from the
device and then from the power outlet."
Hmm, thanks. Can anyone verify that i don't need to charge it for 8 hours or whatever before turning it on?
I got it yesterday and I just put it on charge and after a few minutes I turned it on and started using it and honestly battery life is great so far so imagine that, if it's good from the beginning then after 1-2 weeks it will be amazing!
just use it anytime you want, keep it on charge if you want while using it, nothing bad will happen.
powlesY said:
Hmm, thanks. Can anyone verify that i don't need to charge it for 8 hours or whatever before turning it on?
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Just charge it till full....switched on or off is up to ya.
Wicked. Means i don't have to wait about for ages without using it. Gonna mess around with it whilst it's charging.
of course, some will tell you otherwise....i've used several phones just like that, and didn't have any problems with battery life. But never say never....
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Preparing...
With the phone in the on position.
Fully charge the battery with the phone on... (until the led turns green.)
Once the led turns green, unplug the charger until the led goes off.
After the led goes off, plug the charger back in. When the led turns green , power off the phone.
now.... with the phone fully powered off...
1. Unplug the charger.
2. Wait until led goes off.
3. Plug charger back in until the led turns green. When it turns green, unplug the charger again and go to step 1.
4. repeat steps 1 and 3, 10 times. This may take anywhere from 30 seconds to 30 mins per cycle. Typically only about 1 minute. though.
DO NOT DRAIN THE BATTERY. The goal is not to empty the battery and recharge like ni-cads (those have memory, these don't). These are lithiums, so we need to do the opposite...
And lets all sing the hokie pokie and shout
The cells were not charged evenly, so each cell holds different charges. So when you charge it, 1 cell may be 95% another 100 and 98 etc... so when you balance the cells, they function like they are suppose to.
this phone does not have a cell balancer built into it.
So charge, wait til its almost dead, charge again til full, then do the process w the phone off?
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I'm sorry this guide doesn't really make much sense. the led won't be on if the phone is unplugged so how will I know if its on Orange or not? also is the phone on or off when I'm doing this?
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changed the instructions on top, i suck at writing.
I suppose this might explain why sometimes my phone plunges to about 90% almost immediately after taking it off the charger, but then battery decreases at a "normal" rate after that?
So were reconditioning our batteries...
I'm 99.9% sure the battery is single cell...it wouldn't make sense to have a dual cell 3.7v LiPo unless you wanted heavy discharge.
I don't see how this will make any charge other than the phone not topping the battery off...which in that case an external charger would do a much better job is so.
I tried this and my battery has been holding steady at 100% with the screen off for the last five minutes so something worked.
So is this a one time thing to re-condition the battery or will we have to do this more then once
Woah, voodoo magic here. Any proof of this working.....
SteelH said:
Woah, voodoo magic here. Any proof of this working.....
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No proof yet. Take it or leave it.
It works for me. Test on your own. Seems pretty harmless to atleast try...
Ingesting.
I've heard of draining all the way and recharging a couple times but this is a new one lol..
tmidle8575 said:
I suppose this might explain why sometimes my phone plunges to about 90% almost immediately after taking it off the charger, but then battery decreases at a "normal" rate after that?
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this always happens to me since getting the phone. will give this harmless voodoo a try
kthejoker20 said:
No proof yet. Take it or leave it.
It works for me. Test on your own. Seems pretty harmless to atleast try...
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That's true, won't hurt anything. WTF I'll give it a try, maybe get proven wrong and learn something too..
I gave this a try and I must say that it is working. Before I did this, as soon as I would take my phone off the charger it would immediately drop to 96%. Now as david279 said, it will actually stay on 100% for awhile and have better standby time. Good find joker, I do see a difference.
How did you find out about the cells not being charged evenly?
WOW...this actually works. This should be posted on other forums so ppl know about it.
Akulamenuri said:
How did you find out about the cells not being charged evenly?
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I'm a battery nut... actually, i used lithiums in model RC airplanes all the time. Balancing is a must.
Maybe someone can build an app for this, to reboot cycle on and off the power?
Is that even possible?
Now if someone would like to shoot me a awsome working froyo 2.2 rom *** joke
kthejoker20 said:
I'm a battery nut... actually, i used lithiums in model RC airplanes all the time. Balancing is a must.
Maybe someone can build an app for this, to reboot cycle on and off the power?
Is that even possible?
Now if someone would like to shoot me a awsome working froyo 2.2 rom *** joke
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can you post this over at the other android forums so ppl know?
At last. Great review from Cnet:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-vibrant-t-mobile/4505-6452_7-34129373.html?tag=rvwBody
I bet they didn't train the battery since they said it dies fast
What do you mean by "train" the battery?
Tyrant171 said:
What do you mean by "train" the battery?
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Letting it die all the way then turn it on till it completely turns off and you can turn on again then charge it fully and you do it that for 3 times and your good
Gotcha...good to know. Thanks for the info!
iceshinobi said:
Letting it die all the way then turn it on till it completely turns off and you can turn on again then charge it fully and you do it that for 3 times and your good
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so you turn on the phone for the very first time and use it on whatever battery power thats left. then use it to the point which it shuts down itself. now turn the phone back on again, and plug in the charger, keep using the phone but with the charger still plugged in. when the battery meter indicates "FULL". unplug the charger. and repeat these procedures 3 times.
Does this sound about right?
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so you turn on the phone for the very first time and use it on whatever battery power thats left. then use it to the point which it shuts down itself. now turn the phone back on again, and plug in the charger, keep using the phone but with the charger still plugged in. when the battery meter indicates "FULL". unplug the charger. and repeat these procedures 3 times.
Does this sound about right?
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Yep but u repeat 2 times since u already started with the 1st one and then your battery will be maximized for some reason i still don't understand clearly
Li-ion batteries have a few quirks. They need a few full charge cycles to get the full range of the battery. Then for the best lifespan you should top off the battery every day. Every 30 or so top-offs (once per month) you should drain the battery completely then recharge. Depending on the quality you should get 3 years or 200-500 cycles. The batteries continue to slowly improve.
I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
speoples20 said:
I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
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Agreed. I don't think I've ever taken a photo with a cell phone flash that I was happy with.
I immediately thought the same thing (re: training the battery) when I saw this review. lol. You'd think that cnet would know these things, wouldn't they?!
Also clearly they didn't try to use the night mode vs a camera with a flash before whining that it has no flash.
Yea I hope more reviews come in the next 13 hours or atleast I go in my car to drive to T-Mobile tomorrow morning
Mobile Burn has a good video review here
youtube.com/watch?v=PFOwe_Jj3pI
Heres another one from Mobility Minded
youtube.com/watch?v=aXYLOI5i7Gw
speoples20 said:
I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
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It's a big deal for people like me that are out and about in the evening or even in rooms with not very many windows, in those cases it makes the camera almost useless because all you get is a blurry mess or a black screen
When you turn on Night Mode, the camera quality is actually really good in dark situations.
I think the title says it all, with a few of us hopefully getting our phones over the next few days, am wondering how long the initial charge should be.
I'm know in times gone by they used to recommended 16 hrs first charge but how long should we charge for (am hoping you guys advise not long as I won't be able to wait to play with it).
kersey said:
I think the title says it all, with a few of us hopefully getting our phones over the next few days, am wondering how long the initial charge should be.
I'm know in times gone by they used to recommended 16 hrs first charge but how long should we charge for (am hoping you guys advise not long as I won't be able to wait to play with it).
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One review, think it might've been Eldar's, said that a full charge took around 3 hours. If that's true, it's pretty amazing.
I don't think batteries really suffer very much from "battery memory" anymore, so you could probably just turn it on while it's charging! (I did with my Hero and it's fine.)
kersey said:
I think the title says it all, with a few of us hopefully getting our phones over the next few days, am wondering how long the initial charge should be.
I'm know in times gone by they used to recommended 16 hrs first charge but how long should we charge for (am hoping you guys advise not long as I won't be able to wait to play with it).
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Hmmm we are not really sure at the moment, however, dombledore and staceymobiler can give you that information as they are the only two people here in the forum who have retail SGS2(AFAIK). Also, I am pretty sure that the documentation that will come with the phone will definitely have the details mentioned Just a few more days to go for you to get your hands on that!
Enjoy! And hope that helped
You can charge whatever amount you want, whenever you want. Modern batteries DO NOT require an initial charge, and can be used right out of the box. Out of the box, they'll come with around a half charge, so you can use that half charge before charging, or you can change immediately if you want. It doesn't matter at all.
You charge until the message appears in the notification bad "charge complete, please unplug".
There is no need to charge LITHIUM batteries for 16 hours the first time.
Further, the batt will come with some charge - you can safely use it up first, and charge later.
AJerman said:
You can charge whatever amount you want, whenever you want. Modern batteries DO NOT require an initial charge, and can be used right out of the box. Out of the box, they'll come with around a half charge, so you can use that half charge before charging, or you can change immediately if you want. It doesn't matter at all.
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Hey! Didnt know that!! was still stuck with the old mindset that i will have to charge the new phone out of the box for a specified amount of time and only then will i have be able to use it to avoid the memory effect. Are you saying that this is not required anymore?! wow!
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Hey! Didnt know that!! was still stuck with the old mindset that i will have to charge the new phone out of the box for a specified amount of time and only then will i have be able to use it to avoid the memory effect. Are you saying that this is not required anymore?! wow!
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Not with Lithium based batteries. Which is good, cause I'm not very good at charging new toys before use.
This has been driving me nuts for ages, and now I just use the battery to transfer my phone from one charger to another! But to be honest I haven't tried anything to fix it as yet.
It started with my phone shutting down when I took a few photos - now, if my phone gets down to 80% I expect it to shutdown. It won't fire back up until I put it on charge.
Occasionally when I try to turn it back on, it wont fire up, and the blue LED comes on and stays on until I charge it or take the battery out.
Occasionally it will reach 50%, but that would be a rare occasion! I do still have the original battery, which is now over two years old.
It's a great phone - if only the battery would last longer than 10 minutes under use! It hasn't been rooted or anything - it is as I got it from new.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
magicdrshoon said:
I do still have the original battery, which is now over two years old.
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A new battery is really cheap ( 15-25 usds) and probably would solve your problem.
There is no reason for this topic unless you have the original battery.
magicdrshoon said:
This has been driving me nuts for ages, and now I just use the battery to transfer my phone from one charger to another! But to be honest I haven't tried anything to fix it as yet.
It started with my phone shutting down when I took a few photos - now, if my phone gets down to 80% I expect it to shutdown. It won't fire back up until I put it on charge.
Occasionally when I try to turn it back on, it wont fire up, and the blue LED comes on and stays on until I charge it or take the battery out.
Occasionally it will reach 50%, but that would be a rare occasion! I do still have the original battery, which is now over two years old.
It's a great phone - if only the battery would last longer than 10 minutes under use! It hasn't been rooted or anything - it is as I got it from new.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
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Your battery needs to be replaced..
Dial *#0228# this will reset the battery calibration. Charge it to 100%..
see if the problem still remains that means your battery is almost dead and expect a random shutdowns at anytime
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heisenberg7 said:
A new battery is really cheap ( 15-25 usds) and probably would solve your problem.
There is no reason for this topic unless you have the original battery.
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I understand that the battery is probably past it's best, but it was the fact that it states that it has lots of life left, and then acts as if it doesn't that throws me. That's the reason why I have posted this topic.
Amar.B said:
Your battery needs to be replaced..
Dial *#0228# this will reset the battery calibration. Charge it to 100%..
see if the problem still remains that means your battery is almost dead and expect a random shutdowns at anytime
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I've done this now. Thanks for the tip. It doesn't seem to have made any difference though so it's probably just the battery.
I just expected it to indicate the correct battery level in the battery level indicator.
You live and learn! Thanks for the replies.
magicdrshoon said:
I understand that the battery is probably past it's best, but it was the fact that it states that it has lots of life left, and then acts as if it doesn't that throws me. That's the reason why I have posted this topic.
I've done this now. Thanks for the tip. It doesn't seem to have made any difference though so it's probably just the battery.
I just expected it to indicate the correct battery level in the battery level indicator.
You live and learn! Thanks for the replies.
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Anytime mate.. cheers
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So i will get the phone on Tuesday, do i need to charge it overnight first before using it?
Is the "thing" still apply until now?
Or
After i receive the phone, and i can use it immediately ? Like, installing my apps, playing games at the same day?
Or maybe i need to charge it to 100% first?
Maybe discharge with some task to 0%, and charge it 100% without any distrub?
I'm still curious..
I still need some answer, or maybe what u guys did to ur phone
I think discharging to 0% and then charging it to 100% would prove to be the best options
Velosofy said:
So i will get the phone on Tuesday, do i need to charge it overnight first before using it?
Is the "thing" still apply until now?
Or
After i receive the phone, and i can use it immediately ? Like, installing my apps, playing games at the same day?
Or maybe i need to charge it to 100% first?
Maybe discharge with some task to 0%, and charge it 100% without any distrub?
I'm still curious..
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If you plan to use the phone less than 2 years you can charge all the way till 100 and drain till 0.
And if you plan on using it for a long time(>3 years) keep the levels between 20 and 70.
This video explains why : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF2O4l1JprI&t=338s
yash6# said:
I think discharging to 0% and then charging it to 100% would prove to be the best options
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My dad did that with his Samsung Galaxy A7 17
kingnikpic said:
If you plan to use the phone less than 2 years you can charge all the way till 100 and drain till 0.
And if you plan on using it for a long time(>3 years) keep the levels between 20 and 70.
This video explains why : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF2O4l1JprI&t=338s
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Ah yes LTT video, now i actually remember, so i just can use the phone right away and keep the battery levels between 20%-70%, got it!