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Opinion about battery life cyanogenmod 5.0.7

Hello. I need an opinion, i've been using cyanogenmod 5.0.7.
Just back to my home pc. After using for 1 day i must say that battery life is a issue. I really dont know what is. I've been monitoring all the apps. to see if there was any CPU change. Is LauncherPro responsible for battery drain?
In almost 13 hours the battery was reduced from 100% to 24% . My settings at SetCpu are:
Usualy have only 2G signal in order to save battery.
Sleepmode 128 as minimum and maximum. In normal use is 528 as Maximum and 245 as minimum ( i tested for 5 hours with 352 Mhz as maximum , anoying that the performance wasnt very good so i changed back).
Stock of new radio roms, have as default 480Mhz as minimum and 528Mhz as Maximum for what i saw in SetCPU last time i used the Sense UI 1.5 Stock by cursordroid. IT lasted me around 1 day and like 10 more hours with same use as this time.
I would request higly some opinion about this, so that i may know what to do in order to have a better battery life.
I used around 3 hours of music daily, near 30 min of internet (it varies according to my needs). Phone Calls (around 1 hour at max). Some text messaging. And 20-40 min of playing games and checking apps for fun entertainement (This i dont do daily but since was todays use i leave here) .
Also noticed as stated above about the Signal reception (reception is in maximum but call gets lost easily compared to a normal ROM and new radio (not sure if is only new radio)). Is alot worst than usual. I dont know the reason. But with sense ui worked perfectly well.
I think these are the most important issues wich must be dealt with in my opinion and i hope next release will be accounted.
Battery life and signal reception or if you can help, and sorry if this is not a issue of the rom, a possible solution.
Thank you!

Some battery saving tips:
- Go into spare parts and make sure the end call button makes the phone go to sleep.
- Turn off market notifications (Go to the market, then downloads, then hit menu and then notifications).
- Turn down the brightness as low as you stand it.
- Kind of an obvious one, but get a task manager and periodically kill apps running in the background that you're not using.
- Speaking of apps running in the background, lower the refresh rate of apps to as low as you can. Or simply turn off background data use and refreshing entirely.
- Turn off wifi/bluetooth/GPS when you're not using them.
- Use as few widgets as you can.

FlyingToilets said:
Some battery saving tips:
- Kind of an obvious one, but get a task manager and periodically kill apps running in the background that you're not using.
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This is plain WRONG.
Do try ADW Launcher instead of Launcher Pro. It won't help with your reception issues though. I had the same problem with CM on old radio. The other was GPS (didn't work).

FlyingToilets said:
Some battery saving tips:
- Kind of an obvious one, but get a task manager and periodically kill apps running in the background that you're not using.
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drbobb said:
This is plain WRONG.
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Apps running in the background = better battery? Please explain.

i'll try as you suggested. it is very important. i'm testing now the port for new radio. Reception is great compared to the one before.
Lets see how it works for now =) I'm waitig for new update seems there is some battery drain issues going on CM 507

Also try using CM 5.0.8 test 1. I've noticed improved performance. I came across one thread that also suggested the Facebook program was causing drain. By turning off all the Facebook sync and notifications, I'm highly improved battery life.

FlyingToilets said:
Apps running in the background = better battery? Please explain.
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Most apps that are in the background aren't running, they are sleeping and not using any CPU. For continued background activity the app would have to implement a service, which would be pointless for most apps.

I get 10 hours out of mine with complete eclair, and setcpu at 245 min and 614 max...Its stable and I do about 3-4 hours of music, moderate texting, and 115-30 min of web browsing of 3g...Oh and I only have about half signal.

507 was killing my battery... 508 seems to be better so far

actually after a experimenting 508 isnt that great either... it lasted about 11 hours... a listened to the radio most of the day and a few songs for about an hour... one phone call for about a minute... and its dead
the best Cm 5 battery life for me has been test 7...

Hmmm I look at it this way, if you clock to low it will take longer to finish whatever process its doing and will kill the battery faster, if you clock it to you, you will be poring to much voltage towards the cpu killing your battery...Idk if mines is best but its clocked at 614 and has been great so far.

I'm using CM 5.0.8 t1 and battery life is great: 24 hrs+. I DON'T use Facebook, Twitter, SMS or Market update check. I do sync Gmail, contacts, calendar and weather. I do use some internet, not a lot.

Wrong
Never use a task manager. Applications running in the background doesnt mean that they are running. The might be sharing resources with another ( or sharing threads). So never killl apps. Android has its own service manager which tells the phone to run on optimised settings. Killing a process will again require the other app to start again.
Uninstall your task killer and feel the difference

siddharthsai said:
Never use a task manager. Applications running in the background doesnt mean that they are running. The might be sharing resources with another ( or sharing threads). So never killl apps. Android has its own service manager which tells the phone to run on optimised settings. Killing a process will again require the other app to start again.
Uninstall your task killer and feel the difference
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Correct, just like windows, and force closing some apps can cause the o/s to become unstable...

Any Battery power saving tips?

So as the thread name states does anybody have any tips for helping have the WildFire's batterey last longer?
So far ive turned the screen brigtness down by half of what it was & turned off touch vibration.
Any other tips?

ATOJAR said:
So as the thread name states does anybody have any tips for helping have the WildFire's batterey last longer?
So far ive turned the screen brigtness down by half of what it was & turned off touch vibration.
Any other tips?
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I have not tried many things but one thing i am pretty sure of is go to MARKET >>>> Download and use Advanced Task Killer .. kill the running apps.. i leave my installed keyboard..and mobile security app ON rest most of them i kill... its a useful app.. i mean why to keep music app or weather app or news app or messaging app running when u are not using them..
Have Fun

warriorvibhu said:
I have not tried many things but one thing i am pretty sure of is go to MARKET >>>> Download and use Advanced Task Killer .. kill the running apps.. i leave my installed keyboard..and mobile security app on rest most of them i kill... its a useful app.. i mean why to keep music app or weather app or news app or messaging app running when u are not using them..
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Yeah ive been using the Advanced Task Killer for a while now already.

I have read that usage of ATK is not required at all because of Androids near perfect RAM Management. And you also could come into trouble because android looses a small amount of ram capacity every time you use ATK untill the next reboot.
other than that you could try Juice Plotter and Juice Defender

find a app can auto turn on/off fly mode.
I ve tried Juicy defender, it seems not fit wildfire very well, some function not working. like auto fly mode, and auto turn off wifi when over 50M.
(btw,it will change your apn setting,cause me can not connect after uninstall it.)
after 1 month, I found navigation app take me 80% of battery.like google map/navi.

rasenzhang said:
find a app can auto turn on/off fly mode.
I ve tried Juicy defender, it seems not fit wildfire very well, some function not working. like auto fly mode, and auto turn off wifi when over 50M.
(btw,it will change your apn setting,cause me can not connect after uninstall it.)
after 1 month, I found navigation app take me 80% of battery.like google map/navi.
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use the automatic brigtness option under the phone settings. much better batterty performance

Read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567
Not sure if these steps actually improve the efficency of the battery OR wheter the S/W behind the battery guage becomes more accurate as it goes through a process that alows it to better estimate the SOC of the battery.
Andy

Yup, even I have read a lot that Android manages the apps in a beautiful way. When I first used Android, the first question that came to my mind was how to exit apps as none of the apps had an exit button. Coming from nokia, sony erricson etc this was an obvious question to ask. Then after some research I found that Android just freezes the apps when we go back. The app is not actually running in the back end.
But anyway, yesterday my battery again went to 8% and on checking the used status, it showed that the android system used 92% of the battery lol.
One more thing I would like to suggest is that there is a Power control widget built in the wildfire. Its pretty useful to decrease the brightness, turn off gps, wifi etc from the home screen itself.

sumeetchawla said:
One more thing I would like to suggest is that there is a Power control widget built in the wildfire. Its pretty useful to decrease the brightness, turn off gps, wifi etc from the home screen itself.
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Thanks for this!
I installed this widget and it said that GPS was on even though it wasn't appearing in the tool bar along the top. I had run several apps that use GPS, but had assumed if the GPS icon was gone, GPS was off.
Is that wrong?
(good news if it is, as I was struggling to keep enough power to in my phone to get through the day without charging)
joan

Avoid task killers like the plague. They cause more problems than they solve. Trust the android os to manage ram.
Just discovered the most powerful app I have ever seen called "Tasker". It its only £4, but will make your android so much more diverse. You can, for example, have it go into airplane mode between certain times (i have between midnight and 6am) but periodically check for sms or voice mail every hour. It saves stacks of battery.
I have it turning wifi on only when it knows I'm at home or at work.
I have it turning off wifi, dropping screen brightness down, and playing a louder notification when battery gets to 15%.
It silences my phone when I get within 100m of the two cinemas I use.
It is not the most easy app to use, be patient with it. Look up some of the "recipes" on the internet to get a good tutorial on how to work it. £4 is a steal for something so potentially vast. Its limited only by your imagination.
Oh and having run Tasker for 24 hours, (how long my battery normally lasts) only contributes to a 2% drain, and its adding roughly 6 to 8 hours extra! It would cost you ten times that for an extended battery!

I use an free app called timeriffic to auto disable WiFi
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Try program JuiceDefender....you can download free from Android market.

my battery life is really awful too,i noticed it a couple days ago,that it drains to fast,so i started looking into it,and i found out,that my device won't go too sleep. so in settings/about phone/battery the awake time and up time are the same. i had similar problems on my hero, but there it was the messaging apps fault.
here, i kill everything with advanced task killer,it still can't go too sleep,android battery use shows,that android system is using most of the battery.
anybody else with similar problem?solutions? i have stock 1.25 rom rooted with unrevoked.

What? You mean your screen is permanently on? .....
Ive head bad things about using task killers too, I dont use on anymore.
Some things i have done that have helped my battery like quit alot actually is turn off Wi-Fi, Turm off GPS, Turned off haptic feedback(vibration when pressing buttons), Screen brightness to automatic & screen timeout too 15 seconds.
I can now have a really good fiddle with the phone and it can last more than a day without needing a charge.

As I understand when screen goes auto shut off, all apps are idle, even WiFi or gps is on. I tried with music on continuously for 2 hrs in flight mode, I still have about 80% power. With gps on for 1 hr continuous, I still have about 80%. With normal use my power can last the whole day.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

ATOJAR said:
What? You mean your screen is permanently on? .....
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no,the screen turns off,but something still runs in the background what eats the battery,and I can't find out what it is. I tried multiple task managers,and they show that everything is closed.i have it in flight mode,with everything turned off,still something runs,what shouldn't.

Did you solve this? It's happening on my phone now, and it's very frustrating.
(just installed ATK - very scary the apps I never use are running) and killed everything except ATK. Touch the power switch to turn off the screen. 15 minutes later, up time and awake time are still the same.

jefmcg said:
Did you solve this? It's happening on my phone now, and it's very frustrating.
(just installed ATK - very scary the apps I never use are running) and killed everything except ATK. Touch the power switch to turn off the screen. 15 minutes later, up time and awake time are still the same.
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2 updates from me, to help anyone else with similar problems:
1) I uninstalled any recently installed or updated apps** and widgets now I have a 1:6 ratio of awake time. So, fixed?
2) In the meantime I logged a call to HTC via their website. Answer:
With regards to your problem, if the battery is going down significantly and you have turned of applications when your not using them and used task killer. It might be better to call us up so we cann look into it further and we might have to book the phone in for repair especially if you have noticed it not charging properly or overheating at any time.
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Yup, those problems started occurring at the same time as the other, so it looks like I have an underlying hardware fault. Dammit! I don't want to be without my phone for 2 weeks.
joan
**including CardioTrainer! When I reinstalled it I'd lost around 900km of workout history.

Just out of curiosity
What gain of time are we actually talking about here ?
I tried lots of different things but never suceeded to receive more than two full days.
What is your max. with all the different programs and hints ?

ebioman said:
Just out of curiosity
What gain of time are we actually talking about here ?
I tried lots of different things but never suceeded to receive more than two full days.
What is your max. with all the different programs and hints ?
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If you are asking me, the answer is "about 6 hours".
I've (partially) fixed my uptime = awaketime problem. But I obviously have some more serious battery issue.
Hopefully someone else can chime in with happy battery life.
joan

HD2 Android power saving APPS, worked for me

Ive been using juice plotter to check on my huge batter drain over the last few days since installing darkstone froyo v2, ive been slowly adding different apps to control the power consumption. I understand all rooted android roms have similar issues, hopefully a combination of these apps will help.
from stock darkstone froyo (ie no power control apps) i was losing 90% of battery in 7 hours. This was with wifi/gps/bluetooth off and not much usage. I also found the phone Stopping at 93% charge when plugged in. To fix this leave it plugged in and turn the phone off for 15 mins. Reboot android and It will have reached the full 100%. I think the android rom I have has issues charging on USB so I disabled the charge on USB in the settings.
Ok here are my personal findings I have on various power saving apps.
APP: JUICE PLOTTER
RATING: 4/5
BATTERY SAVED: N/A
PRICE: FREE from app store
shows a graphical chart of power consumption vs time , good for diagnosing how much extra power draw your activated features have (ie wifi, bluetooth) shows the time these features start and end at also, be it manually started or automatically.
APP: APP KILLER
RATING: 4/5
BATTERY SAVED: 30 - 60 mins on a full battery
PRICE: FREE, Pro upgrade is minimal cost from app store (gives extra features)
I set mine to aggressive killing. this improved my battery slightly, probably increased battery by about 30mins to 1 hr on a full charge. The main thing I like with this app is the automatic, set time, multiple killing of other apps. Unfortunaly i found the app killing not to permenant as some restart again a little while after. This has minimal battery save for my programs but depending what your apps/services are consuming on terms of resources, it can save much more. The auto kill stops the phone from been bogged down, it is much quicker to respond once its stopped other apps and wakes from sleep quicker. This app also shows you a list of all current running apps and services that you can quit, switch to etc. I found stock android to have this sort of task manager feature missing.
APP: SETCPU
RATING: 3.5/5
PRICE: free on XDA (donation recommended ) small price from app store.
BATTERY SAVE: about 1 hr - much Cooler running phone temp.
This app is very good as it can set you CPU speed to save battery. Mine is set to 833mhz when used, 255mhz in idle. 432mhz when the screen is off. This Saves small amounts of battery but still has a decent response and speed, also improvements on wake up from sleep. You can save more power with more conservative speeds, although your phone may be less responsive. On the flip side push up the MHz to increase speed and responsiveness of your hd2 for increased battery usage.
Upon heavy use of my phone with a high CPU speed I saw a slight battery drop with SETCPU, probably due to my CPU speed being at 1033mhz at the time.
CLEANED MY EMAIL INBOX
BATTERY SAVING: 7 hrs
I found that mobile web was constantly running on android. as I hadn't cleaned my email inbox fully a few emails from a month or so ago kept been synced to my phone to notify me. Once I deleted these My battery saved near to 7 hrs per full battery. I assume it was constantly downloading the old emails. So make sure you email account is maintained.
APP: TASKER
PRICE: just under £4. Cheaper from developers site
RATING: 4.5/5
BATTERY SAVE: 15 HRS
This is the greatest power saving app I've used.
I've set my mobile data to automatically be off. Every half hour it will turn on for 5 mins to update emails, news, weather etc. It will also enable web when I unlock the Phone. Disable web once I've turned off the screen. It also stops syncing at night so it doesn't wake me with a notification sound. This saves me an extra 15 hrs on a full battery.
One thing I'm doing next is to stop certain apps from booting until I need them. sort of a scalpel approach as apposed to app killers kill em all method.
one issue i found is the learning curve to be quite high on tasker but it wll only take 20 mins to get the hang of how to do what i did above. Hopefully the deveoper will make an easier interface but its still very good. The power saving feature of tasker is only a small part of the tasks this phone can do. It can literally Automise most tasks for your android.
Wth all these apps my battery now lasts on average for 24hrs upon normal usage, 30hrs+ on light usage (better than my win mob) and around 18 hrs on heavy usage.
Hope this helps any one looking for a decent power app. feel free to add your experience with these and oter power saving methods for android HD2

interesting thx.. so tasker is just a automater it doesn't actually stop the apps from staying open in the background or can it? thats the thing annoying me i kill all apps then i go check and i see useless apps still running in the background and i don't want to have to uninstall the apps just to disable them from running in the background. btw did u try the text to speech on incoming calls? im thinking bout purchasing it.

jay_jay_n said:
interesting thx.. so tasker is just a automater it doesn't actually stop the apps from staying open in the background or can it? thats the thing annoying me i kill all apps then i go check and i see useless apps still running in the background and i don't want to have to uninstall the apps just to disable them from running in the background. btw did u try the text to speech on incoming calls? im thinking bout purchasing it.
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yeah tasker can be made to stop indivdual programs from booting rather than app killers stop em all. tasker keeps em stopped until you want to run them of course. you have to select scripts to do this tought. The program is amazing, you can auto set your phone to go silent when you walk into work, cinema etc etc by using GPS. Auto connect to car bluetooth once you get in your car, connect it for calls then stop bluetooth once you get out. Have your phone read you your messages once you have navigator on in the car, so you dont need to touch it. send an automatic sms reply to certain people, ie work collegues if your in a meeting..... its a full automisation program, the options are endless if you know what scripts to select to get it working.
I sadly can only do basic ones but in willing to learn, there are a few tutorials online for certain tasks, im just hoping the developer will release updates to make it easier for the advanced tasks.
lol ive just read this back and BTW i dont represent the developer in anyway, i only bought the app 3 days ago. I did a bit of research on it as thought it was a bit expensive and im glad i did buy it, it depends what functionality you want with your phone i suppose. I bought it as it cures my power options and i can taunt my mates who have iphones (i received a lot of stick when it had winmob on as the main as it kept having issues and wasnt very fun for me to use).

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yeah tasker can be made to stop indivdual programs from booting rather than app killers stop em all. tasker keeps em stopped until you want to run them of course. you have to select scripts to do this tought. The program is amazing, you can auto set your phone to go silent when you walk into work, cinema etc etc by using GPS. Auto connect to car bluetooth once you get in your car, connect it for calls then stop bluetooth once you get out. Have your phone read you your messages once you have navigator on in the car, so you dont need to touch it. send an automatic sms reply to certain people, ie work collegues if your in a meeting..... its a full automisation program, the options are endless if you know what scripts to select to get it working.
I sadly can only do basic ones but in willing to learn, there are a few tutorials online for certain tasks, im just hoping the developer will release updates to make it easier for the advanced tasks.
lol ive just read this back and BTW i dont represent the developer in anyway, i only bought the app 3 days ago. I did a bit of research on it as though it was a bit expensive and im glad i did buy it, it depends what functonalty you want with your phone i suppose.
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great thx.. yeah ive been trying to find a good app that would help make things a bit easier especially when driving and reading txt messages is a plus, if u recieve calls does tasker say aloud the caller name while the ringtone is still ringing or does it replace the ringer? ive had issues with other speech announcers.

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great thx.. yeah ive been trying to find a good app that would help make things a bit easier especially when driving and reading txt messages is a plus, if u recieve calls does tasker say aloud the caller name while the ringtone is still ringing or does it replace the ringer? ive had issues with other speech announcers.
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Im not sure in all honestly, ive not really got around to looking into other tasks apart from battery power saving ones. ive read a few of the posts on the developers website forum and he seems very good and swift at answering questions on the apps features. He also has a suggestion page for users to add stuff. Its one of the reasons that swayed me into buying it as hes clearly spent a lot of time on the development of the app, is very active on his site and seems update the app with newer features. His site link is on marketplace with his app.

Update; I've just checked my battery as I left if off charge last night. It was 48% when I went to sleep its now 40%. This averages at 1% per hour!!! Battery usage has now increased that I'm using it.

How do you setup your tasker? I got it but have no idea how to use...

why i cant find tasker in market??

elitishtc said:
why i cant find tasker in market??
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Tut, use your head and look elsewhere
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html

bates_1974 said:
Tut, use your head and look elsewhere
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html
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sometimes the obvious is far away..
thanks

Longer Battery Life!

hi everyone,
i just wanna share my experience with my Samsung Galaxy S.
i have finally managed to keep the phone running with "normal phone usage" for more than 1 day
it is true that the multimedia features usage was to the minimum but still
2 Days, 16 hours and 43 minutes is an excellent number,
and still i have 15% remaining in the battery!!!
Check the screenshots below.
All what i have done is:
1- installed Voodoo lagfix
project-voodoo.org/download
2- installed Advanced Task Manager (ATM)
getandroidstuff.com/advanced-task-manager-android-download-v50/
And make sure to enable the Auto-End Running Apps features in ATM, i have used the 30 minutes frequency.
i am still unable to believe the difference that i got from this combination.
Voodoo has really fixed the lag issue and apps are running so smooth.
and with ATM installed the battery life has reached unbelievable numbers.
the installation for Voodoo was so easy and no complications, i have just used the update.zip file and it was so fast and easy.
check this yourself and tell me what you got from it.
cheers.
EDIT:
i forgot to mention that i am using ADW.Launcher instead of TWLauncher.

That's nice.
My record with light usage was 4.5 days.
In that particular case, I still had 50% after 3 days but made a lot of calls on day 4 so the battery went down quicker.
Key setting is to switch the phone to 2g when not needing 3g and also turn off the internet connection through the mobile provider and only use WIFI where available.

Very nice usage, but do you have push email active?

Congratulations abuatwan but i still think you could get longer from your battery. You say you have Advanced Task Manager running and set to start up every 30 minutes.
That costs power to start that up (as does any app) and when its killed whichever apps/processes its deemed to, if they start back up...well that's even more power lost lol
Android has its own task scheduler/killer built in and really all you are doing is battling your own system.
This will explain in much more detail, even if you don't understand everything mentioned read on and try to take in as much as possible.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
I do agree though that with the galaxy, something needs to be done as it does in a way run better with a task killer (not counting the battles and power costs)
I use a free program called Auto Killer Memory Optimizer which tweaks androids built in task killer meaning you use your system as it should be
I've had mine running on 'moderate' preset setting for 2 weeks now and i wouldn't dream of installing any other task killer

stickfinger said:
Congratulations abuatwan but i still think you could get longer from your battery. You say you have Advanced Task Manager running and set to start up every 30 minutes.
That costs power to start that up (as does any app) and when its killed whichever apps/processes its deemed to, if they start back up...well that's even more power lost lol
Android has its own task scheduler/killer built in and really all you are doing is battling your own system.
This will explain in much more detail, even if you don't understand everything mentioned read on and try to take in as much as possible.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
I do agree though that with the galaxy, something needs to be done as it does in a way run better with a task killer (not counting the battles and power costs)
I use a free program called Auto Killer Memory Optimizer which tweaks androids built in task killer meaning you use your system as it should be
I've had mine running on 'moderate' preset setting for 2 weeks now and i wouldn't dream of installing any other task killer
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The default setting for killing empty_app processes on Galaxy S is 48 MB. The moderate setting on autokiller is 40 MB, so you are actually *decreasing* the memory tolerance, making the memory management worse! I agree with you about the article, but with a strict setting you will see much better performance, try it.

My SGS keep 3 days max with normal use with disable the data connection with GSM and 3G

I do 2 days with browsing and stuff, seems my battery drains less quickly on wifi then it does with 3g or H =\ killing stuff with ATK is pretty handy as some stuff that i never use don't really mater to keep running in the background.

freakdahouse said:
Very nice usage, but do you have push email active?
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no, during this period i have turned it off, actually i have turned off the Auto-sync option.
i have played some games, used the browser (over Wi-fi) and used GPS but that was very minimal.

Tyxerakias said:
The default setting for killing empty_app processes on Galaxy S is 48 MB. The moderate setting on autokiller is 40 MB, so you are actually *decreasing* the memory tolerance, making the memory management worse! I agree with you about the article, but with a strict setting you will see much better performance, try it.
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great,
if i can just change the default likker setings, i believe that will save lot's of battery
Definitely i will install "Auto Killer Memory Optimizer" and will try both profiles, the moderate and the strict.
Thank you

I do get this with my normal usage, 2 days and some hours - can't remember exactly. I have wifi on constantly, 3g when outside, autosync and push always on, autobrightness, no task managers or lag fixes.. Just stock JM2 :]

I have never managed to get more than a day's usage out of my phone. Today my display has been on for 1h37m and the phone has been off the charger for 5.5 hours, my battery is down to 66%.

good luck, in 3 weeks or so you'll need to do a factory reset because the SGS software/file system is a P.O.S

lokhor said:
I have never managed to get more than a day's usage out of my phone. Today my display has been on for 1h37m and the phone has been off the charger for 5.5 hours, my battery is down to 66%.
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on a 2hr screen time from 100% my phone goes down to 75% or so..

Tyxerakias said:
The default setting for killing empty_app processes on Galaxy S is 48 MB. The moderate setting on autokiller is 40 MB, so you are actually *decreasing* the memory tolerance, making the memory management worse! I agree with you about the article, but with a strict setting you will see much better performance, try it.
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Ahh well that's new to me, Thank you Tyxerakias. I do wonder what else this app is tweaking then because using Super Manager memory widget i had noticed that i would get slight lag when swiping screens if the reported memory was showing around or below 70mb. The 70mb figure might be wrong as i use a lagfix but the point is that to me around 70mb showing = lag. After installing Auto Killer Memory Optimizer i would sometimes see as low as 50mb but still no lag. I got rid of the memory widget after that as it was just displaying useless info and taking up screen space.
I would be tempted to try the strict setting but my phone honestly flies on moderate and ive also heard if you set it too strict then it can end up killing off things like the clock which means your alarm will then fail.
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good luck, in 3 weeks or so you'll need to do a factory reset because the SGS software/file system is a P.O.S
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why 3 weeks? are you referring to the Froyo update? and what is P.O.S?
Personally i wouldn't mind doing a factory reset if you ARE meaning for Froyo as flashing Froyo will reset it anyway...2 resets is no more loss than 1 reset if you are backed up and ready to flash

stickfinger said:
Ahh well that's new to me, Thank you Tyxerakias. I do wonder what else this app is tweaking then because using Super Manager memory widget i had noticed that i would get slight lag when swiping screens if the reported memory was showing around or below 70mb. The 70mb figure might be wrong as i use a lagfix but the point is that to me around 70mb showing = lag. After installing Auto Killer Memory Optimizer i would sometimes see as low as 50mb but still no lag. I got rid of the memory widget after that as it was just displaying useless info and taking up screen space.
I would be tempted to try the strict setting but my phone honestly flies on moderate and ive also heard if you set it too strict then it can end up killing off things like the clock which means your alarm will then fail.
why 3 weeks? are you referring to the Froyo update? and what is P.O.S?
Personally i wouldn't mind doing a factory reset if you ARE meaning for Froyo as flashing Froyo will reset it anyway...2 resets is no more loss than 1 reset if you are backed up and ready to flash
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loool
Seems he just says that its "Piece Of S##t"
while i don't think so

abuatwan said:
loool
Seems he just says that its "Piece Of S##t"
while i don't think so
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lol ahh i get it now, he means the file structure in the Galaxy. Samsung chose to use their own rather than a proper linux structure and i've seen many devs also saying how it was a very bad choice.
Well i've had mine for over 2 months now and no loss of data or anything yet so its fingers crossed here lol..........i will be backing important things up as a precaution too
Yes, that app is useful and i am confident you have noticed that

I don't use a task killer, they drain the battery.
I'm pretty sure you would get the same battery usage with screen on vs. screen on and movie playing. Playing a 2h movie drained my battery for 25%, screen on for 2h was about the same so...
I just use Juice Defender ultimate just to be able to select a few features:
- Activate Data/Wifi for 5min every 2h (would be better every 4/6hours but whatever...)
- Data / Wifi off when i sleep
- Leave data/Wifi on when the screen is on
Basically, my phone only syncs / uses data when my screen is on (or every 2h just to push emails if needed)
I noticed that this really really helped me. 3G and screen on really kill your battery

[FIX] Battery drain from Awake bar constantly on

First and foremost, this will only apply to you if you have seen the following symptom:
You go to Settings -> About phone -> Battery usage -> click on the graph above and see "Awake" as a solid bar instead of (mostly) lining up with the "Screen on" spotted bar below. Here's my previous thread of when I discovered this issue when my "Awake" bar showed solid for an entire 8 hours when my "Screen on" would show frequent off/on's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13938317&postcount=772
I found my SGSII was getting decent battery life, but idle was certainly worse than my SGSI. I couldn't figure it out for the life of me what could be causing it given I was running the exact same apps as my SGSI 2.2.1 handset, but the solid Awake bar did not sit well with me.
Observations:
1) After 8+ hours of solid Awake, I would have no apps running under Settings -> Applications -> Running services except for those that I normally would expect in the background... Settings, NoLED, Google Voice, Swype, etc.
2) I noticed that under this "Running services" screen, if you hit Menu and select "Show cached processes," there are actually other cached processes that are in a semi-dormant state. Are they running or are they not? Hmmm....
3) After a system restart, the Awake and Screen on would line up once again.
Suspicion/Hypothesis:
Some app that I normally have running... even if I completely exit out of, it would sit under cached processes and somehow still keep the device awake.
Testing:
First, wanted to see which app when normally running would keep the phone "Awake." After a few days of testing, isolated it down to eBuddy, which is a chat client I used to have running nonstop on my Froyo SGS. So, after several hours of running eBuddy and seeing a solid Awake bar, I exited out of eBuddy properly (Menu -> Exit), ensured it was no longer running under Running services, and tested it for another 4 hours. Sure enough, with the device mostly idle and eBuddy shutdown, the Awake remained solid/on!
So, I then revisited Settings -> Applications -> Running services -> Menu -> Show cached processes, I saw eBuddy was still cached and taking up memory. So, I clicked on the process and chose Force stop. Afterwards, I let the device idle for a few hours more, and the Awake and Screen on lined up once again.
Conclusion:
I'm not sure if this is a Gingerbread bug or eBuddy bug or a combination thereof, but something changed in the code from Froyo to Gingerbread. Probably has to do with this caching feature, but there ARE apps out there that will keep your device constantly on even if you do properly exit out of them.
Solution:
I used to run "Advanced Task Killer" on my SGS with Froyo but never bothered with Gingerbread because people much smarter than me on here have said time and time again "it's not necessary for Gingerbread, you're wasting time/battery life." Well, that still may be true, but given there are these rogue apps that will cause Gingerbread to stay constantly awake, Advanced Task Killer is the best solution at this time.
(It may not be pretty, but hey, it works.)
So, I installed Advanced Task Killer, did a fresh boot, put all the system apps and other apps I don't want ever shut down (Email, Swype, Settings, etc) on the ignore list, turned the kill setting to every hour, and let it sit. I can say for the past 2 days, my idle battery life has improved significantly. Normally by the end of my work day, I'd be skimming along around 40-50%. (Keep in mind, I use the phone primarily for business, which means 2 push E-mails, 2 pull E-mails, constant text messaging, and lots of phone calls.) The last two days, I have been easily at 70-80% by the end of the day. For instance, right now at 4PM CST, I am still at 82% remaining battery.
Also, keep in mind, I have just about EVERYTHING else I don't need frozen/uninstalled through Titanium backup. This includes but not limited to WIFI Sharing, all the hubs, all the readers, all the SNS junk, AP News, Accuweather, etc.
And the most telling bit that the fix is working: My Screen on and Awake line up perfectly with no more solid bar for Awake. And, this is even after running eBuddy last night.
I know this won't help everyone, but hopefully, it will be of use for some of you. Good luck!

If you're managing to kill apps that keep the phone awake, does it prevent you from receiving messages on eBuddy when the screen is off?

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If you're managing to kill apps that keep the phone awake, does it prevent you from receiving messages on eBuddy when the screen is off?
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Interesting question. I had Advanced Task Killer running all last night, and I woke up to messages in eBuddy in the morning. So, my immediate answer to you would be "no," but this will probably take more testing.
Maybe, I'll set ATK to an aggressive 15 minute kill, and have someone message me after 15 minutes of idling with eBuddy running...
I have noticed that with eBuddy actively running, you cannot select it under ATK and kill it. You must exit out of eBuddy properly (Menu -> Exit) for its active process to shut down. Little did I know though... it would still float around in your "Cached processes" afterwards and keep your device Awake!

Well I've been using ATK since this morning and I can't find any change in Android OS ..
It's still high..
Anyway ATK reports that all the games I downloaded from gameshub are active..
And even if it kills them, they appear again in like 10 minutes.. It's really wierd

TMaLuST said:
Well I've been using ATK since this morning and I can't find any change in Android OS ..
It's still high..
Anyway ATK reports that all the games I downloaded from gameshub are active..
And even if it kills them, they appear again in like 10 minutes.. It's really wierd
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I don't use game hub, but I do have a bunch of games on my device, including the larger Gameloft games. And, I can say for a fact that I do not have any of them ever running in the background.
Something else is keeping them alive, and has nothing to do with ATK. ATK will only help to kill cached processes, but if something is launching them again, that's what you need to look into stopping.

Well.. I do not like tools like the Advanced Task manager.. BUT looking at battery drainage it seems to do wonders!
8 hours of light usage (display 45 mins) --> 75% battery left
3g on (with JuiceDefender à 30 mins) + sync (so I receive whatsapp messages & mail etc)
Listened to music / radio for about 1-1.5 hours
Android OS is sadly still at 36%, Display at 22%
But this I can live with !
Thanks!
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It would obv. be nicer to be at 80+% without that Android bug... Ah, and I did delete / freeze all that Samsung crap with Titanium, didnt really help much! I can also recommend getting CPU spy to see how much your phone actually is in the sleep mode (around 80% for me!)

Breece said:
Well.. I do not like tools like the Advanced Task manager.. BUT looking at battery drainage it seems to do wonders!
8 hours of light usage (display 45 mins) --> 75% battery left
3g on (with JuiceDefender à 30 mins) + sync (so I receive whatsapp messages & mail etc)
Listened to music / radio for about 1-1.5 hours
Android OS is sadly still at 36%, Display at 22%
But this I can live with !
Thanks!
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It would obv. be nicer to be at 80+% without that Android bug... Ah, and I did delete / freeze all that Samsung crap with Titanium, didnt really help much! I can also recommend getting CPU spy to see how much your phone actually is in the sleep mode (around 80% for me!)
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Yeah, I wouldn't run ATK unless I absolutely have to. Like I said in my first post, it is a "brute force" method of ensuring apps are completely closed out and there are no rogue cached processes keeping your device awake. Since I've installed it, the "solid Awake bar" phenomena is completely resolved... and in return, I get much better battery life.
And yes, this is of course on top of freezing just about everything Samsung and anything else I don't need or care to use.

Couldnt agree more!
One questions, what is your "Android OS" % at?

Breece said:
Couldnt agree more!
One questions, what is your "Android OS" % at?
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8%... Display is at 62%, LOL.

Interesting ^^ Oh well.. my battery life should improve but if it stays like this I am fine with it...

Oh Hope ?
Nah, i will try it

cmd512 said:
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Solution:
I used to run "Advanced Task Killer" on my SGS with Froyo but never bothered with Gingerbread because people much smarter than me on here have said time and time again "it's not necessary for Gingerbread, you're wasting time/battery life." Well, that still may be true, but given there are these rogue apps that will cause Gingerbread to stay constantly awake, Advanced Task Killer is the best solution at this time.
(It may not be pretty, but hey, it works.)
So, I installed Advanced Task Killer, did a fresh boot, put all the system apps and other apps I don't want ever shut down (Email, Swype, Settings, etc) on the ignore list, turned the kill setting to every hour, and let it sit. I can say for the past 2 days, my idle battery life has improved significantly. Normally by the end of my work day, I'd be skimming along around 40-50%. (Keep in mind, I use the phone primarily for business, which means 2 push E-mails, 2 pull E-mails, constant text messaging, and lots of phone calls.) The last two days, I have been easily at 70-80% by the end of the day. For instance, right now at 4PM CST, I am still at 82% remaining battery.
Also, keep in mind, I have just about EVERYTHING else I don't need frozen/uninstalled through Titanium backup. This includes but not limited to WIFI Sharing, all the hubs, all the readers, all the SNS junk, AP News, Accuweather, etc.
And the most telling bit that the fix is working: My Screen on and Awake line up perfectly with no more solid bar for Awake. And, this is even after running eBuddy last night.
I know this won't help everyone, but hopefully, it will be of use for some of you. Good luck!
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WORKED FOR ME AS WELL< EXCELLENT!!!
Task killer is a must
Uninstalling/freezing rogue Samsung apps is a must
ONLY THE COMBINATION WORKS and it works well indeed.

Mmm bizarre! I was waiting for the hordes of people telling you that 'task killers' are unnecessary and stupid.
Thank you very much for your findings.

On my SG2 The android System process is eating almost all my battery! any solution for that?

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WORKED FOR ME AS WELL< EXCELLENT!!!
Task killer is a must
Uninstalling/freezing rogue Samsung apps is a must
ONLY THE COMBINATION WORKS and it works well indeed.
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Mmm bizarre! I was waiting for the hordes of people telling you that 'task killers' are unnecessary and stupid.
Thank you very much for your findings.
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Glad to hear it's working for you guys. With Advanced Task Killer running in the background, I haven't had the "solid Awake bar" reappear again... my Awake bar is always segmented and match up fairly well with my Screen on bar.
Idle battery life is very much acceptable now and definitely no worse than my SGS.

I've always enjoyed your posting and i'm glad you didn't just jump on the bandwagon like everyone else. This is definitely the type of posting we need where everyone work together to solve/identify the issues at hand.

ph00ny said:
I've always enjoyed your posting and i'm glad you didn't just jump on the bandwagon like everyone else. This is definitely the type of posting we need where everyone work together to solve/identify the issues at hand.
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Appreciate the kind words. Like I said in my first post, many people much smarter than me/in-tune with Android have said it's unnecessary. But, you're right... there are way too many "DO THESE STEPS AND IT WILL FIX EVERYTHING" posts on here with 0 to little evidence to back up the claims. In the end, nothing beats thorough testing and proven results.
I for one hope 2.3.4 resolves this bug... ultimately, I'd like to not have to run ATK altogether. But for now, this is a solution that works.

cmd512 said:
Appreciate the kind words. Like I said in my first post, many people much smarter than me/in-tune with Android have said it's unnecessary. But, you're right... there are way too many "DO THESE STEPS AND IT WILL FIX EVERYTHING" posts on here with 0 to little evidence to back up the claims. In the end, nothing beats thorough testing and proven results.
I for one hope 2.3.4 resolves this bug... ultimately, I'd like to not have to run ATK altogether. But for now, this is a solution that works.
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It works with Freezing/Uninstallin Samsung "bad apps" (WiFi Sharing, Social Hub, etc.). I suggest you emphasize that more in your initial post.
ATK itself helps but ATK is always late (30 minutes or one hour).
That's what I recommend to freeze/uninstall without crippling core functionality:
1 WiFi Sharing and WifiManager
2 Samsung apps (Social Hub, Days, Yahoo Finance, AP News, Games Hub, Readers Hub, Music Hub, AccuWeather)
3 Voice Command Uninstalled using Titanium
It's based on my testing using OS Monitor / ATK - those apps tend to wake up phone for no reason even when you don't use them.
Now it's 24 hours with 4 hours of screen on, no Juice Defender etc.
It works better than SGS (one) despite huge screen and excellent speed.

rdy2go said:
It works with Freezing/Uninstallin Samsung "bad apps" (WiFi Sharing, Social Hub, etc.). I suggest you emphasize that more in your initial post.
ATK itself helps but ATK is always late (30 minutes or one hour).
That's what I recommend to freeze/uninstall without crippling core functionality:
1 WiFi Sharing and WifiManager
2 Samsung apps (Social Hub, Days, Yahoo Finance, AP News, Games Hub, Readers Hub, Music Hub, AccuWeather)
3 Voice Command Uninstalled using Titanium
It's based on my testing using OS Monitor / ATK - those apps tend to wake up phone for no reason even when you don't use them.
Now it's 24 hours with 4 hours of screen on, no Juice Defender etc.
It works better than SGS (one) despite huge screen and excellent speed.
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Well, freezing and ATK are needed to reach 2 separate goals:
1) Freezing: Needed to completely disable apps you plan on NEVER using.
2) ATK: Needed to completely close out apps you DO use when they stay cached/rogue in the background and keep your device awake.
So I do agree with you, freezing is absolutely necessary, but it really is the bare minimum. You still need ATK on top of that to actively seek out and kill battery draining apps.

I can confirm, OP solution works great on me. Thanks..