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Size of ram and rom?

Not a big deal and more a newbee question than a real problem, but i want to know it in the end.
In my Setting in the memory submenu my device only shows up 56.34 Mb of Total Storage and 49.08 of Total Program Memory. Does this depence on the ROM and will never show the amoung of the hole available memory like 128 and 64 MB?
THX

Please go here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_FAQs
And read "How is memory allocation done in Hermes?"

Thanks pof.
btw. great thing with this bootloader 1.01!

touch 3.5/3.6 M-Amine_2.0_RC3 memory problem

hi on the standard ROM my deice has a total of 120MB program memory but with all of those roms the total memory drops down to 84.71MB in use 47.64 does any one know why

[email protected] said:
hi on the standard ROM my deice has a total of 120MB program memory but with all of those roms the total memory drops down to 84.71MB in use 47.64 does any one know why
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A ****load of apps within manila

itje said:
A ****load of apps within manila
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yeah i get that but the total RAM should be 120MB it is only 84.71

perhaps learning more about what you are reporting could be an idea?
Im gonna pretend I did not see this post
im off..cheers
(no offence my friend)

itje said:
perhaps learning more about what you are reporting could be an idea?
Im gonna pretend I did not see this post
im off..cheers
(no offence my friend)
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well fair enough but maybe u can explain it cause if u got a computer with a total of 120 MB RAM it will always have 120MB ram just becuse apps are using the ram does not decrease the amount of ram your computer has just the amount of memory that is free.
My device has 120 MB of program RAM and with lots of apps runnign i should still have 120MB RAM but i would have a lot less free. As it stand my polaris thinks it only has 87.4 MB of ram of witch 37% is free. Instead 120MB with 37% free

Honestly, I don't understand this either. I haven't tested, but if you install Manila on a ROM that didn't have it cooked in, I doubt the total memory would drop down.
I could only think this is a side effect of the video drivers (meaning the hidden memory is dedicated to the drivers which I'd understand), the other is that it's a bug that hasn't been properly explained/been looked over for some reason.
I'm no expert at ROM cooking by any means, but it definitely looks weird to me.

ahwell...
you have theese 2 in your settings/memory: Storage & Program
compare the official rom, with cooked rom, both storage and programs
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forgot to mention, check out your settings/device information hardware tab.
and.... please report your findings here

dude i clicked start>settings>memory and it looks like this
Storage | Program
Total: 121.29 MB | Total: 84.71 MB
In use: 19.97 MB | In Use: 56.38 MB
Free 101.32 MB | Free: 28.33 MB

[email protected] said:
dude i clicked start>settings>memory and it looks like this
Storage | Program
Total: 121.29 MB | Total: 84.71 MB
In use: 19.97 MB | In Use: 56.38 MB
Free 101.32 MB | Free: 28.33 MB
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Itje told you already: check settings/device information.
The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.
The difference is caused by drivers, the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.
I checked now the new HTC 6.1 german Rom, the pagepool is 6 MB according to OM-BYs pagepool changer. As I did not flash it until now I have no idea about the total program memory, but I'm sure its not more than 100 MB because drivers are also needing RAM.

gerald_s said:
Itje told you already: check settings/device information.
The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.
The difference is caused by the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.
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Well, I think most of us (more often the case) knows about the pagepool settings. Just did not understand why the 32MB pagepool is chosen (in standard rom and most cooked roms) which anyhow do not give much performance adge.
Because of 2 main reasons, I went to use Bepe 0.67 cooked rom
1. it's using 12MB pagepool, that means I get 101.46MB program memory, currently disabled BioTouch.exe and loaded in the Manila2D myself, get to obtain free memory of 62MB. Fresh restart I get about 69MB free memory. All programs seems to be running smoother. I can use the phone for many days without the need to restart, though it's a common thing for WinMobile .
2. in the latest official rom, and many other recent cooked roms, I could not run IGO8 (HDD version), which is the best GPS program I have for the country that I am in. And IGO8 needs a lot of memory to run -> reason for me to upgrade from Trinity.
And the worst news is, I tried so many pagepool editor (many versions etc), none seem to be working to bring up my program memory from 84.7MB

s_john8686 said:
Well, I think most of us (more often the case) knows about the pagepool settings. Just did not understand why the 32MB pagepool is chosen (in standard rom and most cooked roms) which anyhow do not give much performance adge.(
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You are right, most of us should know about pagepool. But apparently the thread starter didn't know it thats why I was explaining it once again.
BTW: I downloaded Syrius R1 from UDK, its using 6 MB pagepool, same as HTC stock rom. But maybe OM-BY's pagepool changer can not handle polaris roms and shows an incorrect pagepool size.
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Because of 2 main reasons, I went to use Bepe 0.67 cooked rom
1. it's using 12MB pagepool, that means I get 101.46MB program memory, currently disabled BioTouch.exe and loaded in the Manila2D myself, get to obtain free memory of 62MB. Fresh restart I get about 69MB free memory. All programs seems to be running smoother. I can use the phone for many days without the need to restart, though it's a common thing for WinMobile .
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62 MB free Ram with Manila is great, maybe I should try Bepes Rom

gerald_s said:
Itje told you already: check settings/device information.
The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.
The difference is caused by drivers, the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.
I checked now the new HTC 6.1 german Rom, the pagepool is 6 MB according to OM-BYs pagepool changer. As I did not flash it until now I have no idea about the total program memory, but I'm sure its not more than 100 MB because drivers are also needing RAM.
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thank you that is what i was after an explaination

[email protected] said:
thank you that is what i was after an explaination
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I think for Polaris, 6MB pagepool means you will have 107MB program memory.
My Bepe 0.67 rom has 12MB pagepool and I get 101MB program memory. I really don't know where other missing memory goes, taking 128MB-12-?? = 101MB.
So it seems the reader you used to chk pagepool produced wrong information. That was what happen when I tried to use pagepool editor to reduce pagepool size.
But the program work fine on Trinity cooked rom.

guys,
i use M-Amine 2.0 RTM
and with alot of apps running, i have 37MB memory left
but honestly, i dont feel any different wether its 69MB or 37MB
in fact, i dont pay much attention on free memory and i dont realize that my program memory dropped to 84MB
maybe i'm just too exited with flashing new ROMs

I saw my version of Igo8 wouldn't launch if there is less than 45Mo Program memory left. But it launches even with .Net CEFramework V3.5 if it has 48-50 Mo left.
I guess the new build of Igo8 takes less RAM so it could be launched without desactivating M2D in today screen.
I use M-Amine 2.0 RTM.
Maybe Tabs removing in M2D could help freeing some ram too.

What is internal phone storage of the mytouch>>

I just bought the sprint hero and it has 288mb internal phone storage but i was surpised see that when I took it out of the box, it only had 142mb left for apps. In other words, 138mb is being used by the phone for preinstalled apps and system files. My question is what is the internal phone storage out of the box for the mytouch?

Wierd, I went into my MyTouch with stock 1.6 ROM:
Firmware Version: 1.6
Build Number: DRC92
When I go into SD Card and Phone Storage and look at Internal Phone Storage: Available Space, I have 265MB available.

you are confusing ram with rom, the 288 on the box is ram. it has 512mb total rom for the os and apps.

kchau said:
you are confusing ram with rom, the 288 on the box is ram. it has 512mb total rom for the os and apps.
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Thank you for your answer. I am still confused, however. Could you tell me why I only have 142mb available in the internal phone storage straight out the box?

because senseui and the hero rom takes up a fat amount of space.

kchau said:
because senseui and the hero rom takes up a fat amount of space.
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Ok, thank you.

Phone storage problem

So I have installed a lot of programs on the main memory of my HD2.
Here is the report :
Total storage : 181,60 mb
Used storage : 171,22 mb
free storage : 10,38 mb
Total program : 336,97 mb
Used program : 188,96 mb
Free program : 148,01
to check yours go to the settings tab and select phone storage
I've only installed the game on the phone, all the rest is on my microsd!
By checking with Treesize mobile, it appears that they are 422,83 mb of files in the Windows folder! (so 10492 files!!!!!)
is it normal?
Didn't had this on my HD with the same programs on it?
Thanks

cracou111 said:
So I have installed a lot of programs on the main memory of my HD2.
Here is the report :
Total storage : 181,60 mb
Used storage : 171,22 mb
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That's used storage is high. About 100M higher than my own. Did you install CoPilot and maps or something else. I see Windows + ~20M of "Program Files" + ~10M "Application Data". My Docs and all the rest 5M for the lot. You goota look see what's "snuck" in there...
cracou111 said:
free storage : 10,38 mb
Total program : 336,97 mb
Used program : 188,96 mb
Free program : 148,01
to check yours go to the settings tab and select phone storage
I've only installed the game on the phone, all the rest is on my microsd!
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...the game..."?
cracou111 said:
By checking with Treesize mobile, it appears that they are 422,83 mb of files in the Windows folder! (so 10492 files!!!!!)
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Looks about right
cracou111 said:
is it normal?
Didn't had this on my HD with the same programs on it?
Thanks
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Yesterday, I installed Copilot Live and I downloaded the benelux map.
It's a this moment that I saw this huge memory usage!
So I decided this morning to perform a hard reset, I installed back my apps without copilot live and my memory usage is still so important!

what is your memory usage?
I saw already on this forum some memory usage pics and these confirm that my
huge memory usage is not an exception!

total storage: 181.35
used: 81.81
free: 99.52
total program: 336.97
used: 127.05
free: 209.92
rom, 1.43.413.2 (70124) sve

if you want your device free storage back,just clean the cashe in
device/application date/htc/htcalbum/cashe

I've been installing and trying out some programs I had and I've just noticed everytime I go to uninstall a program the phone memory doesn't seem to free up afterwards. Any ideas?

zaharakis said:
if you want your device free storage back,just clean the cashe in
device/application date/htc/htcalbum/cashe
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Sorry but can you expand on what you have written please? Is the a registery setting you have mentioned?
Thanks.

naim khan said:
Sorry but can you expand on what you have written please? Is the a registery setting you have mentioned?
Thanks.
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Sorry, got it now - you have tabulated the 'folders'!!

[Q] Storage Issue

Hi guys I just got an issue. I have hd2. Now in sd card and storage tab in settings i can see available memory only 159 mb. And used memory 98 mb. So i get only 71 mb free. I store nothing in my device I havent installed marketplace also. Then why? I know hd2 offers 512 mb storage. Please helo me I also clear you tube folder. I got low memory message every time. Please help me.

what rom and hspl do you have? often this is a problem for 3.14 with hspl.

Yes I have rom 3.14 and what is hspl how do I know it?

Urvansh said:
Yes I have rom 3.14 and what is hspl how do I know it?
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you have yo install it....did you install hspl? (have you used a custom rom before? what does it say in bootloader?)

On my device I have 208 MB storage available. To see how the remaining storage memory is used, I have developed a small tool "PartInfo".
PartInfo lists all storage devices, mounted, non mounted and hidden partitions.
However, ResInfo is a resource monitoring tool for everyday usage. It can also indicate your biggest files in storage.