I'm new to android phones. In fact, other than reading about them, my only experience with them is playing with the evo 4g for about 10 minutes. I was surprised at the significant stuttering while trying to scroll through lists. It made navigating the sprint tv application very very frustrating. Scrolling through the browser settings was also very annoying because of the stutter. Is this normal for android phones? Is it normal for the evo? Is there some way to fix it?
Right now I have an iphone 3g. I'm not happy with having to jailbreak my iphone just to get some basic functionality that I need. I'm afraid that with the iphone 4 won't even be able to turn on a jail broken phone without plugging it into a computer, so I really am looking for an android device, but this scrolling stutter might be a deal breaker, if it is normal.
Demo models are always torn up and not typical.
I really don't have any lag but I'm also rooted, removed the bloat and have a great task manager installed.
the nexus never stuttered. not a single step. the evo tends to. i think it has something to do with the bloatware that htc and sprint have filled it up with.
could be the 30 fps bug. the device is locked at displaying 30 frames per second so things could be choppy. that's the second thing i noticed about the phone. first was how fuzzy everything looked - i upgraded from a droid so that could be the reason.
I don't think its the 30fps bug. 30 fps would be perfectly acceptable. This is a stutter, not just slow frame rate.
If you're coming from an iPhone I can see how the scrolling would bother you. The iPhone is consistently 60fps in the UI at almost all times, does not suffer the choppiness of the Android UI when scrolling lists or applications. Restoring the 60fps target + Froyo should get the Android UI experience up to acceptable levels in my opinion.
It's the live wallpapers that make my app list stutter. I turned it off and it's smooth now.
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could be the 30 fps bug. the device is locked at displaying 30 frames per second so things could be choppy. that's the second thing i noticed about the phone. first was how fuzzy everything looked - i upgraded from a droid so that could be the reason.
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OMGG stop blaming a 30fps cap for the phone being laggy AT ALL. Its like every single forum if someone brings something up about the phone freezing, lagging, glitching, or not working. Some random person says "its probably because the 30fps cap". Thats not going to stop things from scrolling all in one motion.
But like others have said here, its most likely just because its a demo phone and there might of been a lot of things running. Since most people dont know how to operate android devices they dont close the program and just open everything and anything. Also htc/sprint put a lot on to the phone and bog it down. The phone will be more then operational without rooting, but if you do root, you can give the phone a big increase in speed.
The 'performance improving' ROMs seem to have a great placebo effect.
The phone stutters regardless of what rom you use. The EVO 4G is a laggy phone. It is very unimpressive.
Having sprint bloatware taking up space in your phone's flash memory does not affect performance. It is not taking up ram unless it's running, and even if it is, it will get reclaimed automatically by the operating system as needed.
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The phone stutters regardless of what rom you use. The EVO 4G is a laggy phone. It is very unimpressive.
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I seem to disagree with u there. My EVO hasnt choked once. Yeah, its a little jittery with LWP running, but without the LWP, my EVO is as smooth as can be. Not one complaint.
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I seem to disagree with u there. My EVO hasnt choked once. Yeah, its a little jittery with LWP running, but without the LWP, my EVO is as smooth as can be. Not one complaint.
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I'm coming from an iphone 3g which had no UI lag. Opening and closing apps took longer though. Scrolling, switching homescreens, and especially scrolling the apps list seems extremely laggy on the Evo..
Try launcher pro if you refuse to root and use the custom roms.
I have virtually zero lag and free memory is always over 200 mb
I'll agree, I just came from an iPhone 3gs and one of the first things I noticed was that the Evo wasn't as smooth. I really like the OS but the scrolling needs to be fixed.
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Hell... I came from an iphone 2G and it scrolls smoother than my evo.
I really think it's the refresh rate.
I had a Nexus One and never noticed the stutter, though some of my iPhone-toting friends did. But the second I updated to Froyo and everything was much faster and more responsive, I could notice how much slower scrolling and switching screens on 2.1 devices was. It's just a matter of what you're used to.
I get some stuttering when scrolling. My Hero (which I still have) doesn't do this. Strange thing is that sometimes I do not see this stuttering and it's smooth as butter. My thought is that something in the background is running and eating up CPU time.
Live wallpapers seem to make a huge difference in how smooth and regular the touch screen refreshes (like scrolling). I don't have big problems with preinstalled live wallpapers by Android and HTC, but when using most downloaded live wallpapers, the difference is noticable - for example, Galactic Core and RedEye Scanner live wallpapers make scrolling noticeably choppier.
This doesn't seem to happen as much with Nexus One I have access to. I think it might the combination of the 30fps cap and the Sense UI.
Well my plan now is to wait until the iPhone 4 is jailbroken. If the evo's stutter is fixed to the point that it is like other android phones, I'll buy the evo. Of not, I'll get the iPhone unless there's a new option on sprint or AT&T.
I should say that I don't buy that the stutter is due to the 30fps cap. I know what 30fps looks like. The scroll stutter/lag hurts useability. A smooth 30fps wouldn't.
It doesn't stutter unless your running certain live wallpapers. If you use a regular wallpaper there is no stuttering. This is not a problem with EVO as I had same problem on my Nexus but after the update to froyo everything was silky smooth even with live wallpapers. So my suggestion is if it bothers you just use a regular wallpaper until froyo drops on the EVO.
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I just came from an IP4 if that matters,
1.first thing, the speaker quality is not all that when Im watching a youtube vid or just a video I can barely hear it, music sounds good though...weird.
2.Phone call quality is very under par for me, sometimes I can barely hear the person on the other line, its very low, not sure if its just me.
3.I could have swore my first N1 was faster then this one I have know and I though 2.2 was supposed to be really quick? It just seems choppy, everything from the home screens to web browsing to the app store, just seems choppy...
Thats about it, I can live with it but I dont remember the N1 being like this...
Maybe you should Root and install a good ROM and install Launcher Pro or ADW launcher!
some people have that choppy scrolling, not sure why. try installing launcher pro, its free, its smooooth as can be. but that's for your homescreens. the browser is typically very smooth for me, but certain web pages, like web 2.0 html, are a little choppy for some reason (such as the new skin on this forum. switch back to old and look at the difference!!).
when you are watching a video, cup your hand so the sound bounces off your hand and toward you rather than just blaring out the back side of the phone... obviously you will have trouble hearing it then...
Laucher pro fixes almost EVERYTHING
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I just came from an IP4 if that matters,
1.first thing, the speaker quality is not all that when Im watching a youtube vid or just a video I can barely hear it, music sounds good though...weird.
2.Phone call quality is very under par for me, sometimes I can barely hear the person on the other line, its very low, not sure if its just me.
3.I could have swore my first N1 was faster then this one I have know and I though 2.2 was supposed to be really quick? It just seems choppy, everything from the home screens to web browsing to the app store, just seems choppy...
Thats about it, I can live with it but I dont remember the N1 being like this...
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Get Cyan 6.0, remove ADW launcher, install Launcher Pro and enjoooooooy....
also try to wipe your cache in recovery... once my n1 gets a lil choppy or sluggish i go into my recovery and wipe my cache and it speeds and smooths out again.. i use it tremendously so i kinda have to do it often
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Maybe you should Root and install a good ROM and install Launcher Pro or ADW launcher!
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You don't need root to install those.
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Get Cyan 6.0, remove ADW launcher, install Launcher Pro and enjoooooooy....
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solidkevin said:
I just came from an IP4 if that matters,
1.first thing, the speaker quality is not all that when Im watching a youtube vid or just a video I can barely hear it, music sounds good though...weird.
2.Phone call quality is very under par for me, sometimes I can barely hear the person on the other line, its very low, not sure if its just me.
3.I could have swore my first N1 was faster then this one I have know and I though 2.2 was supposed to be really quick? It just seems choppy, everything from the home screens to web browsing to the app store, just seems choppy...
Thats about it, I can live with it but I dont remember the N1 being like this...
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1. Embedded sound in a video has its own volume, which might be low. Also, try watching high quality videos - the speaker is better at high frequencies, and in low quality they're the ones that get cut.
2. Something with your phone, maybe? Try installing a ROM with kernel that includes audio hack. I can't keep my call volume on 100%, it bursts my ears even in very noisy environment.
3. Wipe everything, install Launcher Pro, and try again.
If you still don't like it after that - then sell it.
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also try to wipe your cache in recovery... once my n1 gets a lil choppy or sluggish i go into my recovery and wipe my cache and it speeds and smooths out again.. i use it tremendously so i kinda have to do it often
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Right but his phone is brand new. I've experienced his issue first hand. I first flashed froyo, and the scrolling home screens was choppy as hell, not smooth at all. Launcher pro fixed it. But Google did something with froyo cause it doesn't always seen as smooth as it used to be.
However right now my phone is running superb, smooth scrolling every where, 55 fps easily
I've spent a good amount of time with the iPhone 4. I definitely prefer my Nexus, but here's the painful truth: The iPhone is smoother when it comes to scrolling. Sorry guys, it's just how it is.
You can make the Nexus smoother by using launcher pro or ADW launcher (ADW is smoother IMO), and load a fast rom like Cyanogen 6. It still will be a little choppier than the iPhone, though.
Android and iOS have a very different look & feel. Android does many things better, and is more capable, but iOS still has the advantage in terms of performance consistency & polish.
As a iPhone to Android switcher, it's just something you have to accept. In time, you'll get used to Android's look & feel, and then in all liklihood, you'll start to prefer it like I have.
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I've spent a good amount of time with the iPhone 4. I definitely prefer my Nexus, but here's the painful truth: The iPhone is smoother when it comes to scrolling. Sorry guys, it's just how it is.
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Yup. I remember even seeing an Android OS developer say it is because iOS uses the GPU to handle those effects but Android uses software to rendering scrolling and other animations. When people got pissed off about that (we have GPUs, so why aren't they being used) he said it would be really hard to do on Android because they need to support a wide variety of devices.
I'm not sure why they couldn't just have an optimized code path for devices with the proper hardware. Hopefully it does actually get fixed at some point, but the fact that it hasn't been fixed yet makes me a bit doubtful.
I use LauncherPro like most other people here, but that's still not as flawlessly smooth as iOS dashboard scrolling, and it also doesn't fix scrolling in other areas such as ListViews.
solidkevin said:
I just came from an IP4 if that matters,
1.first thing, the speaker quality is not all that when Im watching a youtube vid or just a video I can barely hear it, music sounds good though...weird.
2.Phone call quality is very under par for me, sometimes I can barely hear the person on the other line, its very low, not sure if its just me.
3.I could have swore my first N1 was faster then this one I have know and I though 2.2 was supposed to be really quick? It just seems choppy, everything from the home screens to web browsing to the app store, just seems choppy...
Thats about it, I can live with it but I dont remember the N1 being like this...
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my phone quality is fantastic. That is what I noticed first was the clear strong phone. True the speaker could be better but it's funny sometimes different videos or songs will be very loud as to how it was downloaded to begin with. I listen to music thru my ear phones and find it top quality sound. To Me the Nexus one is still the best android device made.
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Yup. I remember even seeing an Android OS developer say it is because iOS uses the GPU to handle those effects but Android uses software to rendering scrolling and other animations. When people got pissed off about that (we have GPUs, so why aren't they being used) he said it would be really hard to do on Android because they need to support a wide variety of devices.
I'm not sure why they couldn't just have an optimized code path for devices with the proper hardware. Hopefully it does actually get fixed at some point, but the fact that it hasn't been fixed yet makes me a bit doubtful.
I use LauncherPro like most other people here, but that's still not as flawlessly smooth as iOS dashboard scrolling, and it also doesn't fix scrolling in other areas such as ListViews.
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I agree there are certain parts of the UI that are not as smooth. But when I really sit down to compare its not as different as one might think.
So launcher pro easily seems to be smooth when using regular wallpaper, no live wallpaper, its gotta be hitting 50 fps.
Some lists have a choppy feel, but most actually do not. The settings list for example is smooth. But a list like the market is not, even after you allow the items to cache the data as it downloads. My point is I guess that really in the parts of the UI that ARE smooth, I feel its just as smooth as my ipod touch. It easily hits 50 fps in those parts of the UI and the home screens via launcher pro.
Google's official statement on their developer site is the android OS target is 60 fps. And they give examples showing that they are hitting 45 fps in first gen devices like the g1, and 55 fps in second gen devices like the nexus.
The web browser is another one. Most pages I visit scroll very smooth, easily hitting 45 fps. But certain pages with web 2.0 skins, like this forum's new theme, are choppy.
If you have a working build environment you should be able to see the fps in different UI parts of the OS. The adreno gpu isn't the best, but it definitely should be able to handle basic UI elements like what we see throughout android, and certain parts ARE optimized for smooth scrolling. The parts that aren't I guess could be a limitation of the gpu. But when I see certain web pages and lists that ARE smooth, I have to wonder if and why the choppy parts are just not optimized.
But the end of the day, when I see launcher pro sooth as butter hitting 50 fps, it makes me happy with this phone knowing it can do smooth scrolling, and maybe the not as smooth parts just weren't given as much attention in coding.
I put my third gen ipod touch next to my nexus, and most of the time they really do match each other. So I'm happy
I don't get it. I have compared my Vibrant to my Nexus one and 95% of the time the Vibrant is just as fast. Two exceptions, the market and speedtest.net app. Other than that, it flies! I will say before I did a hard reset the phone was in fact slow, it was a day and night difference after the reset. I get no lag, fast swipe through screens with TW launcher and apps open fast!
I have no lag that I can notice, but then again I don't bog my phones down with a ton of apps and games I will never use.
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
How speedy a device feels is very subjective and varies under different conditions.
I do have a Nexus One too ( in fact two) and in some respects it feels more responsive (mostly the menu, home, back and search button). Applications open faster as well.
Now, the comparison is not fair, ad the N1 is running Froyo and doesn't have the bloatware services installed by TMo (visual voicemail, my account, et al)
Browser and rendering speeds are much faster in the vibrant. Noticeably.
Download speed are much faster in the vibrant as well. Using Speedtest.net the vibrant scores 6 mbs vs 2 on the N1, same place, same time, same servers.
I think the biggest issue with the vibrant (other than the compass and the gps) is filesystem access, probablu due to using a large flash-based memory for storing apps.
I expect that when (if) the Froyo update arrives, the phone will fly.
In the meantime, and depending which apps people have installed and how they use the phone, some will continue to have better experiences with the N1, others with the vibrant.
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I don't have an N1 to compare to, but, there was definitely a lag. Tolerable most of the time, but it would be completely frozen during a single install of an app from market. And don't get me started on a phone reboot. I wish I had timed it to be exact, but it must have been 5 entire minutes from reboot to when I could open and actually use the camera again to record something. Opera loads probably twice (maybe 2.5 times) as fast. Engadget would literally take 5 seconds to come up and at *least* 5 seconds *per page* to load, if not more. I would hit the arrow and have to wait..and wait..and wait. Now, I can hit the arrow repeatedly and it scrolls through news (both new and old)
Maybe not all phones lagged, but mine certainly did. Hope froyo helps some so I'm not forced to run a hack to get around poor rfs performance (or whatever it is).
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No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
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Would really like to know when people without gps or speed problems got their phones. I bought mine the 19th of July from costco.
Also, the, "take off all your apps and games you don't use regularly. Don't use any widgets on your screens. Don't use all 7 screens for apps or widgets" comments are counterproductive. The phone was DESIGNED for this kind of use and if it doesn't perform as designed. Well, that's a problem.
One more thing - people like me who post about perceived problems are not HATERS. I love the phone and its potential with future upgrades to the software and firmware. That's why I come to this forum, to gets thoughts from the android community. Besides, if everyone who loved the phone and had zero problems with it posted all the time there would be no room for those of us seeking advice.
After youtube vid by AKASKRILLER IM ROOTED DID LAGFIX IN 10MINS W/NO PC NOW IM BENCHIN 2100+........HELLLA FASSST
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I wanted to say that I did the lag fix via the update.zip method and everything flies now including the Geniewidget which would rarely load articles. Samsung needs to or has fixed this (not sure, we don't know until we get an official update) but.. I can use the TWLauncher now.
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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There is some lag that was very noticeable which happened every time you tried to use the market place and some random apps(the market was faster on my mt3g before the lag fix), after the lag fix the loading screen is gone if not instant.
Just did this update and I went from 983 to 2187! Awesome difference!
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Same story for me. I've never seen this lag that everyone is talking about (except for the one person that mentioned some lag when installing apps - EVERY Android phone lags for a few seconds while an app is installing). I run the standard TW home and rooted and uninstalled a few of the bloatware apps I'd never use. Don't really see any reason to do the "lag fix".
i just got my tmobile g2 and after putting my email in and unlocking it for my att sim, i feel like is a little bit choppy. the scrolling in the web browser (i dint even install flash) and the responsiveness of the buttons, it doesn't feel as snappy as the the iphone 4. i remember when i was using the n1 with 2.2 a while back is a bit smoother. is it because i been using the iphone for too long? or is it because its preloaded with too much app? i don't think thats the case since the android rom it self is stock. will the smoothness of the ui improves when you put in a different rom when permit root is possible in the future?
one more thing, is it possible to add touch focus to the camera and video recording?
I don't know what you did but the G2 is incrediblly snappy for me. No lags at all. I'm even playing some heavy duty games, like Asphalt (racing game) and I do not notice any lags at all.
thats what i was expecting too, i dint do anything to my g2 is out of the back from the store
flash comes pre-installed.
Have you tried rebooting?
What are your linpack scores?
I too find G2 a bit choppy (after playing with my friend's iPhone4) but I think that's just the way Android is. It can do so much more but we have to sacrifice some smoothness in return. Seems to lag a bit more on home screens. Browser, maps, other apps are just fine.
Also, with Android 2.2, you have to use a phone for a while for it to achieve it's full potential. Something about JIT getting better over the time.
I had the same thing happen to me after i put my work email through microsoft exchange active sync. i ended up putting the check email frequency to never cause i always check it every morning and night to reply and that seemed to clear up that issue. it might be a bug with microsoft exchange active sync or the email app itself. hope that helps.
Honestly after the G1 I didn't believe android could run without lag, but my G2 never lags at all. Well maybe twice I've noticed a tiny second of lag coming back to the home screen but that's it. That being said, one of my friends got a g2 too and his is a little laggy here and there... gotta be particular apps/widgets causing issues in my opinion... with him in particular I think its the anyRSS widget, but I could be wrong of course. I love this phone
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i just got my tmobile g2 and after putting my email in and unlocking it for my att sim, i feel like is a little bit choppy. the scrolling in the web browser (i dint even install flash) and the responsiveness of the buttons, it doesn't feel as snappy as the the iphone 4. i remember when i was using the n1 with 2.2 a while back is a bit smoother. is it because i been using the iphone for too long? or is it because its preloaded with too much app? i don't think thats the case since the android rom it self is stock. will the smoothness of the ui improves when you put in a different rom when permit root is possible in the future?
one more thing, is it possible to add touch focus to the camera and video recording?
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Laggy? No, not at all. Not even a little bit. Nope. Whoosh, eat my dust iPhone. Uh, you don't have to install flash, it is preloaded...you could turn it off. Must be something wrong with your trying to run on ATT.
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My g1 and my g2 BOTH lag blatantly when connected to cheap third party power cords fyi. They work fine on decent power cords, but glitch on the made-in-china, 3 chargers for 99 cents adapter cords.
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The g2 certainly lags in the browser. On more complex webpages the scrolling is not very smooth at all. Load up a flash heavy site and its really bad. I find It really hard to control flash players and stuff. You have to zoom way in to get any buttons to register like on myspace music.
Set flash to "on demand."
Overall I have no lag. when i first got mine (oct 6) there was a delay when i tried to scroll the app drawer. The issues has a since disappear. This thing is snappy and blazing fast.
I think he might be referring to the "smoothness". Unfortunately all android phones have a tendency to stutter when scrolling.
There is no 2D graphics acceleration in the UI, as google did not want to have issues with the older 528mhz phones. Hopefully this will be resolved in 3.0.
The newer faster phones (Like the G2) can hide this with their raw CPU performance, but occasionally if its multitasking or doing something else it will stutter/lag. For now, Windows Phone 7, and iPhone's will always be "smoother". Until we get some decent UI acceleration .
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The g2 certainly lags in the browser. On more complex webpages the scrolling is not very smooth at all. Load up a flash heavy site and its really bad. I find It really hard to control flash players and stuff. You have to zoom way in to get any buttons to register like on myspace music.
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do you have adobe flash 10.1 installed? Keep it on your phone internal memory not sdcard. If you are running stock browser or Xscope or skyfire (or even fennec) just clear the caches regularly. Otherwise there is no reason why the phone should be lagging. Also in settings, set flash player to "on demand" not "always"
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do you have adobe flash 10.1 installed? Keep it on your phone internal memory not sdcard. If you are running stock browser or Xscope or skyfire (or even fennec) just clear the caches regularly. Otherwise there is no reason why the phone should be lagging. Also in settings, set flash player to "on demand" not "always"
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I'm actually talking with flash off though and comparing the g2 side by side a captivate. So android's ui is not hardware accelerated but the galaxy s phones are able to totally mask that. Its not a big difference but a shame that the g2 processor doesn't keep up with the hummingbird. Now someone could explain to me that its because we are running 2.2 but I thought it was actually supposed to be faster than 2.1.
my phone is fast. there is a difference between lag and choppiness. lag is when there is a delay between when you tell the phone to do something and when it does it. choppiness is a lack of smoothness in scrolling. some apps are more choppy than than others. like the stock music app is way too choppy when scrolling lists. the browser is choppy. the contacts list is pretty smooth. but in terms of lag, I don't have any lag.
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my phone is fast. there is a difference between lag and choppiness. lag is when there is a delay between when you tell the phone to do something and when it does it. choppiness is a lack of smoothness in scrolling. some apps are more choppy than than others. like the stock music app is way too choppy when scrolling lists. the browser is choppy. the contacts list is pretty smooth. but in terms of lag, I don't have any lag.
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Yeah that makes sense. My captivate is not choppy in the browser at all and my g2 is slightly choppy. It seriously makes me sad.
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i just got my tmobile g2 and after putting my email in and unlocking it for my att sim, i feel like is a little bit choppy. the scrolling in the web browser (i dint even install flash) and the responsiveness of the buttons, it doesn't feel as snappy as the the iphone 4. i remember when i was using the n1 with 2.2 a while back is a bit smoother. is it because i been using the iphone for too long? or is it because its preloaded with too much app? i don't think thats the case since the android rom it self is stock. will the smoothness of the ui improves when you put in a different rom when permit root is possible in the future?
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I think most of the Web browser choppiness is due to the fact your use At&t network for browsing on the G2 which will only get you slow speeds since it can't use At&t's 3G. This would be expected. Try wifi and see if you still have the choppiness. I don't know about your button issue though.
Just got my new Moto X and I love it so far. The camera is great, screen is beautiful, It's decently fast. Only issue is that it drops frames like crazy. Not that it slows down the phone, but I always see stutters. The Play Store is really bad, swiping between pages and opening app descriptions always makes the phone stutter. Tinder is the worst though, feels like it runs at 15 fps. Also it feels like I have to push so much more to scroll, than I did on my M8. On the M8 a flick would scroll down the list, here my finger has to travel more, though this could merely be due to the increase in screen size I guess? I don't know, just overall the device feels more choppy than my M8.
Anyone else having these issues?
same here. Phone is quite laggy overall. Though I rooted it and have xposed installed. not sure if that could cause the stutters.
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same here. Phone is quite laggy overall. Though I rooted it and have xposed installed. not sure if that could cause the stutters.
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Nope, I'm stock for now and have stutters all the time. Kinda sad that it's slower I think than my M8 on GPE rom.
May be a certain app you all have in common? I don't have this issue, except on some large web pages, which happened on my M8, but even more.
You can go into settings-->developer options-->profile GPU rendering, then choose the "on screen as bars" option. Then go about using the phone, and see how much those little vertical lines get above the horizontal one. It will happen occasionally, but it should be about 95% below the line.
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the OnePlus 6 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
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Device is incredibly smooth. It seems like 60 fps in nearly all applications I've went through so far.
The only good phones I've ever used before this have been U11, View10 and that's it.
Scrolling is head and shoulders above them.
Literally smooooooth AF
Facing the scroll and touch issue
Sometimes scrolling is laggy, sometimes it stutters, sometimes it moves too fast when i scrolled it slowly.
Scrolling has been choppy since day 1 for me. There is small microstutter.
jonny30bass said:
Scrolling has been choppy since day 1 for me. There is small microstutter.
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Yup. The problem is, not everyone can see that. For instance, I said in an article that the Play Store (one example) is jittery/stuttery when scrolling up/down in pretty much every 'corner of the app. People thought I was trolling. And my eyes perceive those stutters as relatively obvious ones. I don't understand how people can't see that. Then there's Twitter. If people can't see that Twitter stutters like crazy, then I don't know what else to say. I don't think the OP6 is smoother than the Pixel 2XL, even though that one's a generation behind. Imagine how good the Pixel 3 is gonna be.
dragos281993 said:
Yup. The problem is, not everyone can see that. For instance, I said in an article that the Play Store (one example) is jittery/stuttery when scrolling up/down in pretty much every 'corner of the app. People thought I was trolling. And my eyes perceive those stutters as relatively obvious ones. I don't understand how people can't see that. Then there's Twitter. If people can't see that Twitter stutters like crazy, then I don't know what else to say. I don't think the OP6 is smoother than the Pixel 2XL, even though that one's a generation behind. Imagine how good the Pixel 3 is gonna be.
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Yeah. Most people probably don't notice it, but my eyes are very sensitive to it. I game on a 165 Hz G-sync monitor and I still notice microstutter at high frame rates lol. I wonder how havoc os or lineage os is? Maybe it's just the OS and not the device causing it.
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Yeah. Most people probably don't notice it, but my eyes are very sensitive to it. I game on a 165 Hz G-sync monitor and I still notice microstutter at high frame rates lol. I wonder how havoc os or lineage os is? Maybe it's just the OS and not the device causing it.
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Of course the device is not the cause. It's the software that facilitates the appearance of these jitters/stutters. It's all about optimization.
I only got one issue with stuttering. That was on day one, when camera application stuttered and crashed. After that everything went fine. That probably because I had two camera apps. One of device and one installed from Play Store.
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Yeah. Most people probably don't notice it, but my eyes are very sensitive to it. I game on a 165 Hz G-sync monitor and I still notice microstutter at high frame rates lol. I wonder how havoc os or lineage os is? Maybe it's just the OS and not the device causing it.
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Same here with the 165hz gsync and very sensitive eyes.. Thus far I haven't noticed any stutters on the device yet been using Instagram, telegram and chrome but nothing so far on latest update.
If I compare my s7 edge that was just a nightmare of stutters.
Yup I get stuttering here, similar to my 3 back in the day. I wonder if tweaking the cpu governor has the same effects as it did on my 3. There is no "conservative" selection anymore.
O notice in some apps now. Not in chrome or Samsung browser (use it for better battery for some reason..)
But apps like Instagram (when loading pictures)
And also play store (most likely loading something too)
I'm thinking it's more about poorly designed apps rather that the device itself.
It seems that scrolling smoothness took a hit after the Pie update, many apps (including chrome) seem to stutter a lot for me.
dax105 said:
It seems that scrolling smoothness took a hit after the Pie update, many apps (including chrome) seem to stutter a lot for me.
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Absolutely true. I just couldn't take it anymore and decided to install the latest Open Beta build, considering that Beta 3 was pretty smooth overall. And yes, Beta 4 is smoother than stable Pie. I don't get how the initial stable Pie build managed to make it to the masses in such a state. For the past few days, the experience on my phone was utter s#!t. I'll stay on Open Beta until things get better on 'stable Pie.
Is there scroll stutter on pie-based LOS and Havoc OS or is it limited to OOS only?
dax105 said:
It seems that scrolling smoothness took a hit after the Pie update, many apps (including chrome) seem to stutter a lot for me.
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Same here... spontaneous framedrops/stutter whiles scrolling, very annoying. Beta3 felt a lot smoother to me!
Every second day have to reboot phone into recovery to wipe cache. Reason being, I'm completely unable to type anything correctly when entering text.
Recent apps lag
Hello everyone,
I'm experiencing some stutter and lags with my One Plus 6. For exempe, if I scroll quickly trough the recent apps in the multitask, I can see some frame drops and it's very annoying. I don't understand why...It should work extremely fluessly with a Snapdragon 845. Are some people having the same issue here ?
Thank you so much !
The only way I've found of stopping the stuttering and poor scrolling is for to go to developer options and set the background process limit to "at most, 4 process"
dax105 said:
It seems that scrolling smoothness took a hit after the Pie update, many apps (including chrome) seem to stutter a lot for me.
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I to have this problem. Scrolling would be smooth then suddenly the frames drop for a short time. This happens randomly. :/