So here in buffalo we had the Chase Corporate Challenge this past week. I was pretty excited to have my evo, both for music, and to use as a timer (if you've ever walked/run the corporate challenge, you know that you'll never get an accurate time unless you take time tracking into your own hands). Not being much of a runner (besides occasional run-ins with the treadmill at the gym) I hadn't gone jogging with my phone before, so I was pretty dismayed when my phone started to completely act up on me.
First off, my music kept skipping and going to the next track. On top of that, for some reason, my phone kept going into voice search mode. Lastly I discovered that the route/timing tracking software I was using must have gotten itself paused for a large chunk of my run in the middle... completely losing where I was and ruining any chance at getting a real time for my run. What made it even worse is about 80% of my company is iPhone users... so the whole thing was pretty embarrassing.
I have a few theories that I need to test as to why it acted so flaky... I kept it in my pocket the whole time. After the run when I was diagnosing, I noticed that when I jiggled the headphone plug, the phone would pause/play the music and sometimes go into voice command mode. I can only imagine that on top of that, the power button must have kept getting pressed when it was flying around in my pocket and somehow my thigh was hitting the pause/play button on the lockscreen. As for the route tracking software, I have no idea... it probably got confused when my phone kept doing all the other things.
So this post is partly a rant, but I'd like to know, has anyone else gone running with their phone? Have their adventures been more successful than mine? And what the heck is up with the voice command thing? Maybe it was the headphones I was using sending odd signals somehow through the jack? Does anyone have any ideas there? At some point I want to get a pair of BT stereo headphones, but it seems like even then not all my problems will be solved... Very annoyed.
At least the good news is I think I came in first out of the "XXL" category here in buffalo... if only they tracked the results by weight, I'd be a superstar
I have no idea if this would cause a problem because I haven't researched how it works, but I wonder if the phone's proximity switch could cause problems when jogging/running.
You should try and get a waist band thing for it or look for something that you can put it on your arm. Just something that can hold it securely in one place.
this has been covered exhaustively, unfortunately not many people seem to care
or they haven't tried the headphone jack out yet.
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698699
Hey
Check out the "list of issues" thread in this forum. #6 sounds like yours
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been running 2 times with music on and using my tracks... everything was perfect.
I jog 4 miles a day and lift weights. Never had those issues. Maybe its just you.
sounds like a bad headphone jack
I run and bike with my EVO and it has been a pleasure. I recommend using CardioTrainer as your work out recorder. It does a great job and even speaks over your music at set intervals to tell you how far you have in what amount of time. It also auto pauses your workout if you take a break and automatically uploads all of the data to a private website.
I went running with my Evo for the first time today.
I strapped it on to am arm band.
It felt a little large at first, but got used to it on my arm after a few minutes.
I played music and also ran Google's "MyTracks" software.
MyTracks uses GPS to log your run and reports all kinds of stats (Pace, Avg moving time, Distance, etc).
I had absolutely no problems.
I agree with other posters that you should try to get an arm band or a belt.
It almost sounds like you were hitting the bottom 4 buttons, but i don't think that is it.
I was listening to music through the headphone jack on my home stereo earlier today and noticed some of the same ****. No skipping, but the song would change by themselves. Happened like 5 times in the course of a couple of hours. Strange.
Just as a side note the BT headphones I have work almost flawless, it's awesome.
the problem with the headphones jack is that it is like the one for the nexus, and the nexus comes with headphones that control playing (play/pause, skip forward/backward). standard headphones don't have the contact that mediates those controls, so when the jack jostles around, it hits that contact point, and causes the skipping issue. as far as i know, only solution is to use a set of headphones with those controls.
which is why i kept the headphones from the N1 when i sold it.
I would never put my EVO in my pocket when I run. In my opinion, a tight belt clip or an arm band are the only solutions.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. It definitely does seem to be a headphone jack issue, as the phone is constantly getting signals to activate voice dialing. I saw there was a DIY mod on android forums that involved bending one of the headphone contacts... I'm trying to decide if I want to try that or just find a set of nexus-style headphones until I get the BT set (BT stereo headphones are pretty pricey so I need to do research before I just throw down $100-200 on a set).
I could try finding an armband... but this thing is huge. good thing I have big arms? Seems more reasonable than a belt clip though, as I don't exactly have a flat stomach lol... seems that having something there while running would be pretty uncomfortable!
How do you run with it in your pocket? Unless you're wearing spandex...
I run with mine but I just hold it in my hand. But I never run more than 5k.
Definitely a headphone problem. If you have crappy headphones with bad contacts or wires, it will confuse the EVO into thinking you are pressing remote buttons on the inline remote.
Also...how do you run with it in your pockets? That would annoy the crap out of me with all the un-anchored weight and probably some chaffing.
where can I get an armband for it?
There are also a number of apps fir the EVO that execute things like skipping songs, taking screen shots, etc by shaking the phone.
It sounds like one of those was running in the background.
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I jog 4 miles a day and lift weights. Never had those issues. Maybe its just you.
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How do you run with it in your pocket? Unless you're wearing spandex...
I run with mine but I just hold it in my hand. But I never run more than 5k.
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Also...how do you run with it in your pockets? That would annoy the crap out of me with all the un-anchored weight and probably some chaffing.
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I have normal running shorts but I've been wearing lightweight cotton plaid golf-type shorts for running recently. They're almost as light as the running shorts and they have deep narrow pockets... didn't bother me at all. Of course I also mentioned that I'm a large guy, so maybe all the fat on my thighs acts as a barrier so it doesn't annoy me haha.
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So I had a Sprint Mogul before I got my G1 and I'd get a little EM interference here and there, especially if the phone is somewhere on my desk. With the G1, it's almost constant (granted, I didn't have push email on the Mogul) and much louder and it also happens within a wider proximity (pretty much when my G1 is anywhere in my room as opposed to simply on my desk). I did some research and found this video so I went to Radio Shack and bought the snap choke cores, put them on my speakers and it didn't do a damn thing. Not even a little bit better.
Does anyone have any kind of fix for this? I pretty much have to turn my speakers off most of the time because it's just unbearable to listen to for long periods of time and what fun is a computer with no sound?
I've never really cared about it much as it doesn't affect my speakers as much as it seems to affect yours. But I've heard of people with Iphones setting the phone on a piece of tin foil to reduce the radiated noise from the phone. It worked well for my dad.
As sensitive as you're seems to be you might be better of with a new set of $10 computer speakers (keep those Ferrite Cores they should help if the speakers are shielded). But then again tin foil wouldn't cost ya $10
I'll try the tin foil thing when I get home. I would be a little bummed if I have to replace the speakers since I just spent $50 on this set and I like the way they sound. Problem is, how would I know that any speakers I buy would work any better than these with regard to the interference?
I saw a video on YouTube about a company that made a fix for the iPhone (although now knowing tin foil works, I don't know why you'd buy this product). It was basically something that looked like a laminated card and when the phone was placed on it, it eliminated the interference. Anyone heard of anything like that made for the Dream? He said it was phone specific, of course, he probably just wanted to sell more.
Hey all, watching some flash videos today made me notice how poorly the N1 puts sound out the back speaker, even compared to my old G1. I remember back in my Blackberry days that people used to mod the backs to "let more sound get out", and so I started looking into this...
First off, the speaker is GINORMOUS in relation to the slit. If you look inside the back where the speaker is, you can see a little internal grille, and the small slit for sound to escape. There's also a TON more room where that grille isnt attached to the back (same shape as the slit, only about 5x the size) that could be milled out pretty easily, and still retain the "keep crap out of the back" feature of the grille.
So, this leaves me with a few questions:
Where can I get a replacement back, in case my mill catches a bit more than I anticipate?
Anyone else interested? I figure if I set up to do one, I might as well bang a few others out instead of setting up multiple times.
Once I get a second back, I will be going at this with pics and hopefully notable improvement in projecting sound into my hand, and back toward my face!
I might not be a software hacker, but when it comes to this sort of thing, I figure its the best way I can give back to the community!
Give HTC support a call and tell them your cover doesn't line up properly(I don't think any of them do) they'll send you out a replacement. If they don't they can sell you one for ten bucks I think.
Hope to hear good results from your mod, might do it myself.
I actually think the small slit does something to amplify the sound..
Take the back off, play music, put it on. Notice it gets louder when you place it back on..
I don't know though, but I'll be following this thread!
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I actually think the small slit does something to amplify the sound..
Take the back off, play music, put it on. Notice it gets louder when you place it back on..
I don't know though, but I'll be following this thread!
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Yea, I think the OP should test and see if there's even a noticeable difference without the back cover. I would think not...
Try removing the cover, sounds WAY worse.
Yes, I completely realize the back sounds bad off, its acting as a resonator, or isolating front from back waves of the speaker, which causes phase cancellation. Thus why im not removing the cover, just making the one hole bigger. It SHOULD not lose the "low end" that it has with the back on (if you want to call it that.
Either way, Im hacking at least one up, Ill post results!
Do it. (poor phone!)
I would suggest to replace the speaker with a Desire one, some people who have both phones pretend it's way louder on Desire, and yes it's the same form factor and size so it should fit
It is quite a bit louder without the cover but sounds bad due to the lack of resonance.
Shouldnt be too bad with just an enlargement, make sure you put something to block out dust. Let us know how it goes.
I've found that attaching one of these to the back quite useful...
or try a vuvuzela
I think the engineer who designed that whole was well aware of resonance qualities. If you make that whole and turns out better, you should apply to HTC job hehe...
@Hummeroid
Good idea ...
What about drilling mini-holes arround the "slit" ?
Instead of making ONE BIG hole ...
Very Interesting mod idea...I think the small drilled holes would be an effective test.
Or just cup your left hand around the back of the phone.
I looking for the out come of this.
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Or just cup your left hand around the back of the phone.
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hah, I've never seen anyone else do it, but I do this all the time if I'm showing people a video or am in a noisy setting (ie. party)
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hah, I've never seen anyone else do it, but I do this all the time if I'm showing people a video or am in a noisy setting (ie. party)
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Nah, everyone does it.. I mostly do it when I want to listen to something quiet, I can turn it down and redirect the sound towards me.
I actually have a really good pair of earphones. I prefer that the main speaker is in the back, instead of in the earpiece like some phones. Prevents earspeaker blowout and call quality is damn good with this phone so far.
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I try to put it up against a wall. Your hand can work to absorb sound waves, thus deadening sound and lowering overall quality; but drywall bounces the sound waves back nearly impeccably. Desks, etc, any hard surface should do the trick.
My vibrant came with earbuds which at first glance are pretty good, in ear. However, I tried to use them as hands free and my friends tell me I sound horrible with them. Is that the case indeed? I want to make sure I dont have defective ones or my phone's jack is not working properly.
I really want to use hands free headphones (not blue tooth) at home as I usually talk for a long time.
They are excellent
Let me answer the question myself They are excellent. I guess the times i tried them i did not push them all the way in the jack! Now when I plug them in properly, sound quality and hands free calls are excellent!
But here is another question -- How can I lower the volume when I talk on the hands free. For me it is too loud. I put Call Volume setting all the way down to 0 and it is still a bit louder for long conversation. I turned the music volume down but no effect. Am I missing another setting? BTW, I am using the volume manager app.
i use them while i drive my big rig, music up, windows open and never heard a complaint. not sure how the quality is over a bluetooth since ive never owned one. but these are great
it irritates my ears. the sounds produced are decent though.
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i think the headphones are great. the bass response is rich and the trebles are clear. I usually put them on for an hour or two at the most so I don't know how irritating they might be with long use. But all in ear headphones do that after long use.
My puppy got to them before i did!
If they irritate your ear, try switching out the plastic part for the smaller ones that come in the pack. I had to do that because the ones that come on it were too big.
They are ok, I wish they had more bass in them though but hey, free right?
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i use them while i drive my big rig, music up, windows open and never heard a complaint. not sure how the quality is over a bluetooth since ive never owned one. but these are great
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I had exactly the same "issue" and actually went into the length to request a replacement, the new phone arrived, and i decided to give my original phone one more chance, I plugged the headphones in and saw the golden plug was still visible (I removed the TMO rubber case), I pushed it a bit harder, it clicked and volia I sent the replacement they send me back
First post here, and it's a slightly negative one so apologies. I got my Z3C last Thursday, set it up over the weekend, and thought everything was great. Then I noticed that there was significant play when I put my headphones in - basically the headphone jack could wobble around. I have owned lots of different items with 3.5mm ports in and none have ever felt like this-when inserted it felt like the bottom of the jack was able to move around. To be fair the sound does not seem effected-no distortion etc.
So I packaged it up, thinking it was clearly defective, and sent it back to Clove, who to be fair had been good up until that point. They received it today and have emailed me to say that they have looked at three other Z3Cs and they are all the same.
I contacted Sony tonight and they say that there shouldn't be significant moment, but I wanted to check here- has anyone noticed significant movement from the headphone jack when plugged in? I am annoyed that I could well end up with a phone that I am not happy to keep, but that I would feel uncomfortable selling on as in my eyes it is faulty.
Thanks for any advice/experiences you can share.
Ross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT2urkUsSiM
Seriously though, mine is fine.
I hadn't noticed, so I plugged in my headphones, wiggled the connector and could see a tiny bit of movement. Plugged them into my Z1, and see the exact same amount of movement.
Non-issue, at least for me!
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I hadn't noticed, so I plugged in my headphones, wiggled the connector and could see a tiny bit of movement. Plugged them into my Z1, and see the exact same amount of movement.
Non-issue, at least for me!
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I'm not talking about tiny movement- I have compared with a Note 3 and a Note 10.1, as well an IPad, and while there is very minor movement., the jack feels firmly held in place. This is not the case on the Z3C. I wish I had filmed the issue before sending it back, but didn't think there would be any issue with a refund as to me it was clearly not standard.
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First post here, and it's a slightly negative one so apologies. I got my Z3C last Thursday, set it up over the weekend, and thought everything was great. Then I noticed that there was significant play when I put my headphones in - basically the headphone jack could wobble around. I have owned lots of different items with 3.5mm ports in and none have ever felt like this-when inserted it felt like the bottom of the jack was able to move around. To be fair the sound does not seem effected-no distortion etc.
So I packaged it up, thinking it was clearly defective, and sent it back to Clove, who to be fair had been good up until that point. They received it today and have emailed me to say that they have looked at three other Z3Cs and they are all the same.
I contacted Sony tonight and they say that there shouldn't be significant moment, but I wanted to check here- has anyone noticed significant movement from the headphone jack when plugged in? I am annoyed that I could well end up with a phone that I am not happy to keep, but that I would feel uncomfortable selling on as in my eyes it is faulty.
Thanks for any advice/experiences you can share.
Ross
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Well, I didn't notice any movement in my Z3c until after a couple of weeks my music kept pausing. Upon further inspection it seems that any movement in the headphone jack causes my Z3c to connect/disconnect the headphones. Today, over a matter of minutes, this degraded and my headphones are now unusable as the slightest movement causes my headphones to connect/disconnect. I'm really not happy with this and expect a phone to be built to last more than two weeks.
Film it, want to compare
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First post here, and it's a slightly negative one so apologies. I got my Z3C last Thursday, set it up over the weekend, and thought everything was great. Then I noticed that there was significant play when I put my headphones in - basically the headphone jack could wobble around. I have owned lots of different items with 3.5mm ports in and none have ever felt like this-when inserted it felt like the bottom of the jack was able to move around. To be fair the sound does not seem effected-no distortion etc.
So I packaged it up, thinking it was clearly defective, and sent it back to Clove, who to be fair had been good up until that point. They received it today and have emailed me to say that they have looked at three other Z3Cs and they are all the same.
I contacted Sony tonight and they say that there shouldn't be significant moment, but I wanted to check here- has anyone noticed significant movement from the headphone jack when plugged in? I am annoyed that I could well end up with a phone that I am not happy to keep, but that I would feel uncomfortable selling on as in my eyes it is faulty.
Thanks for any advice/experiences you can share.
Ross
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Mine moves also back-forth, left-right while on my iPhone it is solid. But I don't see your issue, if it's a defect (and not by design) then you have a two years warranty
Why send it back now? As long as the sound is good?
I've notice a tiny play in mine too but I believe that its cuz the waterproof. There is a plastic stuff inside and that make move the eraphone jacks
I can confirm the slight movement on my Z3C's headphone jack too. And yes, there's some sort of plastic jacket inside the jack, this what makes the headphone plug wobble. It's a non-issue, pretty sure it's part of the waterproofing design.
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if it's a defect (and not by design) then you have a two years warranty
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But what if I've rooted it already?
I checked a z3c, z3 and a z2 at a store today, z3c has the most play of them all, z2 is the most stable. Really that is the only part of the z3/z3c that feels cheap and badly made.
This is part of the "waterproofing design", but i suspect that it is a faulty design and this gap is actually responsible for the many water damaged z3c phones. People report that they just submerged it for a minute or two in fresh water (under a tap, or it fell in a toilet... lol) and the screen died for all of them, the phone continued working but the screen was dead.
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Well, I didn't notice any movement in my Z3c until after a couple of weeks my music kept pausing. Upon further inspection it seems that any movement in the headphone jack causes my Z3c to connect/disconnect the headphones. Today, over a matter of minutes, this degraded and my headphones are now unusable as the slightest movement causes my headphones to connect/disconnect. I'm really not happy with this and expect a phone to be built to last more than two weeks.
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Today when I started to cycle from university towards home my music kept pausing. First i thought someone else was using my spotify and I put my phone to airplane mode but it kept happening and I noticed this same movement. When it tilts from back towards front music pauses and now it is also unusable just as above text states. Has anyone contacted their services about warranty? I would like to know what have they answered. I usually listen music from an hour to two per day so obviously this is an issue for me.
EDIT: So i went to the service and they said that headphone jack can be broken in two if it is targeted at with too much power. And if this is the case warranty will not recover it so it is fixable but customer will pay. In any other case warranty should cover it. They their service would take two weeks..
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Today when I started to cycle from university towards home my music kept pausing. First i thought someone else was using my spotify and I put my phone to airplane mode but it kept happening and I noticed this same movement. When it tilts from back towards front music pauses and now it is also unusable just as above text states. Has anyone contacted their services about warranty? I would like to know what have they answered. I usually listen music from an hour to two per day so obviously this is an issue for me.
EDIT: So i went to the service and they said that headphone jack can be broken in two if it is targeted at with too much power. And if this is the case warranty will not recover it so it is fixable but customer will pay. In any other case warranty should cover it. They their service would take two weeks..
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I have the exact problem. I just sent it in for warranty repair. They said they will check if it's user damage and move on from there.
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I have the exact problem. I just sent it in for warranty repair. They said they will check if it's user damage and move on from there.
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Same happened to me, but as my phone already fell twice and I have signs of it on its back, I won't get any repair under warranty... I guess it's because of the plastic around... There's no sign of damage around it, but when I move the jack music stops suddenly. That's bad
I had the exact same error of a loose jack then music pausing. Then the headphones weren't picked up at all. sent it to sony, they fixed it all fine. No problems
I have the exact same problem, and I see it as a problem since the music doesn't work properly for the second time since I got the phone.
The first time, I sent the phone to the after sale service and it was repaired within the warranty limits, it was three months ago. Now, the problem occurs again and I'm a bit disappointed. If I can't use my phone for three weeks every two or three months, what's the point of getting a flagship phone from Sony ?
I am also having the same problem.
Thought I was lucky not having a cracked glass back/screen so far...alas
I believe they also reset your phone during this process? Does the backup save and restore everything?
I have/had the same problem until it stopped working completely. Sent it to Sony today morning they told me on chat that the repair will take 5-7 days...
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I am also having the same problem.
Thought I was lucky not having a cracked glass back/screen so far...alas
I believe they also reset your phone during this process? Does the backup save and restore everything?
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Well you should factory reset your phone anyway, before you are sending it for repair. That's the first thing to do when you have any problems with your phone...
The back up saves all messages, phone calls, phonebook, apps settings etc. so yeah, everything I would say...
Same here... I'll return the phone next week to the retailer. Let's see what they'll say.
So, after my headphone jack got broken and I sent it for repair, (which only took less than 1 week btw) the phone is not waterproof Anyway I can listen to music again
EDIT: I am an idiot, was testing it with opened flap lol, the phone is actually waterproof
Hi!
I'm really tempted to buy the LTE model of this tablet... and use it full time as a phone?!
Is there anyone else doing this? Do you feel silly holding it out in public?
Obviously, it wouldn't be getting held up to my ear (I know there's no speaker to do that anyway).
I was just wondering what other people's experiences are in using it as one!
Thanks.
If you're using it with a Bluetooth headset I don't see the problem. As far as tablets go, this is quite compact and slim. You would need some kind of bag through to carry it around. I couldn't imagine having it in my hand all the time. Its big to fit in a pocket.
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Works OK...but it's awkward.
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Hi!
I'm really tempted to buy the LTE model of this tablet... and use it full time as a phone?!
Is there anyone else doing this? Do you feel silly holding it out in public?
Obviously, it wouldn't be getting held up to my ear (I know there's no speaker to do that anyway).
I was just wondering what other people's experiences are in using it as one!
Thanks.
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I've had to use mine as an emergency backup phone as I lost my regular phone a couple weeks ago. It works pretty well, and the top speaker actually works like a receiver earpiece if you decide to use it without a headset. Of course it looks really awkward, and I was getting these strange stares on the Seoul metro, so I wouldn't recommend it.
I've been using this as my phone in the US for several months now, and it's behaved just fine, it's the same resolution as phones twice its price and hspa+ has been more than adequate for my purposes.
A word of warning though... I've been keeping it in my pocket, I generally have large pockets, but in so doing it seems I've warped the frame a little, the screen is very slightly separated from the frame in one corner of the device. So I would try to find some way to carry it externally.
Thanks guys!
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I've been using this as my phone in the US for several months now, and it's behaved just fine, it's the same resolution as phones twice its price and hspa+ has been more than adequate for my purposes.
A word of warning though... I've been keeping it in my pocket, I generally have large pockets, but in so doing it seems I've warped the frame a little, the screen is very slightly separated from the frame in one corner of the device. So I would try to find some way to carry it externally.
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What about any awkward looks when pulling it out to use it in public? Hahaha.
I very rarely talk on the phone, and when I do my huawei watch (for caller ID) and Bluetooth headset do all the work, so this hasn't been a factor for me at all.