Tell me there is a way to get voice and data at the same time on the Evo with 3g. If not, I'm taking this beast back.
Nope, that's always been a limitation with 3g. You cannot do both on Sprint's 3G CDMA network. Same for VZW.
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Nope, that's always been a limitation with 3g. You cannot do both on Sprint's 3G CDMA network. Same for VZW.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Back to F'ing AT&T.
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Tell me there is a way to get voice and data at the same time on the Evo with 3g. If not, I'm taking this beast back.
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I thought everybody knew sprint and verizon can't do that.
And being able to have voice ONLY with 4G has been talked about since the first day EVO was announced.
you can with WIFI on
I'm still lost as to why this is a deal breaker. I have needed that functionality only a handful of times over the last many years.
Some people really buy into the hype that at&t has been pushing these last few months
Wow, you just need to settle down. Having Data and voice at the same time isn't that important.
I just came from AT&T and I can count the number of times I have needed that feature. Most of the times has been when I am on a call and need to look for a phone number in maps or something like that.
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I just came from AT&T and I can count the number of times I have needed that feature. Most of the times has been when I am on a call and need to look for a phone number in maps or something like that.
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same, if it comes down to it i'll just call whomever back.
i'm experiencing MUCH faster data (20-30% speed improvement over [email protected] in my area). so it's a worthwhile trade off for me.
I'm going to keep it for 28 days and see how it works out. I surf the web a lot while on conference calls. Also use it to look something up while talking. Typically, when I need it, I really need it.
I can't say I've ever needed that feature. My only Q for those with the phone, is the reconnect (to data) very fast? I'm assuming it's probably instantaneous.
I had a (long ago) Windows Mobile phone that had this slight inconvenience, only issue was that it took about 15 seconds to get a data connection again.
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I can't say I've ever needed that feature. My only Q for those with the phone, is the reconnect (to data) very fast? I'm assuming it's probably instantaneous.
I had a (long ago) Windows Mobile phone that had this slight inconvenience, only issue was that it took about 15 seconds to get a data connection again.
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The reconnection is not something you'll notice as far as time goes.
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I surf the web a lot while on conference calls.
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This is the only reason that I have ever heard that makes any sense...but of course when I'm on a conference call I am also usually at my computer.
There are not many people in your exact situation (conference calls away from desk), so really this is a slight inconvenience for 99% of people.
The ONLY time this has bothered me is when im tethering and i get a phone call or text and even then it only really affected me when I was video chatting with someone or another form of stream. The fact that it goes off when I get a text momentarily is more annoying than the phone call one though, because I tend to get many more texts than phone calls. If i'm on a phone call, I don't need to be tethering anyways generally.
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The reconnection is not something you'll notice as far as time goes.
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It's also not exactly hard to test...make a phone call, then watch for the 3G symbol at the top of the screen.
I'm going to keep it for 28 days and see how it works out. I surf the web a lot while on conference calls. Also use it to look something up while talking. Typically, when I need it, I really need it.
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It really depends on the person. I used it all time (i am sure we can find these exact points in another thread) but the EVO is well worth the sacrifice for me.
Used it today on my EVO as a matter of fact, I was in WiFi country needless to say
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Sim. voice and data is really handy. Ever heard of Bluetooth. Browse the web and talk pretty easily. I can't say it is a deal breaker for me, but with no Wimax ( I refuse to call it 4G as it is not actual 4G) in my area their 3G speeds suck ass. AT&T I get 3.5mb down and 1.5 up. I tested on the Evo at Sprint store and was getting 900 down 900 up. Phone seemed pretty nice but don't think I want to ever go back to a CDMA carrier ever again.
You seriously walk around talking and surfing the web? I have had the urge 2 times in my entire life...
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You seriously walk around talking and surfing the web? I have had the urge 2 times in my entire life...
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thats twice more than me.
No, But I get a lot of breaks at work and play on the web etc. Like I said it is not a big deal breaker for me but when you get used to it you notice it more....
Bit the bullet last night and picked up one. Really like it so far...
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Man all of tmobile is down from what I can tell, every one I call on the network their phones are busy, as well as the customer support and website is not working..... I bet a lot of people are not too happy right now!!!!!
yeah that sucks. People were calling me and saying my line was busy.
I noticed...I still have data though :/
maybe its just me, but i think my towers are down completely. cant even get any bars.... usually have 3 bars of 3g (Indiana)
tmobile says they are 'working on it'. I wish theyd 'work' on carrying some decent Android phones
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tmobile says they are 'working on it'. I wish theyd 'work' on carrying some decent Android phones
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hahaha, thats a good one. I got voice and text back for the past couple hours now.
Only calling is working for me :/
yep website says its been down since 530, this sucks. Supposedly its only affecting 5% of customers, thats what they are saying atleast. I have no signal whatsoever. it sucks
Yup they are experiencing technical difficulties.
http://www.phonedog.com/cell-phone-...experiencing-nationwide-network-troubles.aspx
I think it was more like 50% everyone I talked to on a huge school campus said their phone was down. There were 100s of twitter posts every few seconds. It's all back to normal now.
Long time AT&T customer probably switching to Sprint, been eyeing the Epic..
If I get a voice call, is it possible (if I'm using a BT headset or speakerphone) to fire up a web browser on it and use that while I'm in-call? To look things up, or whatever?
If it can't do that, are there any other Sprint phones that can (EVO, for example?)
Thanks!
if i remember right, you can use data and voice only when you are connected onto 4G and WIFI, but not 3G. i have not tested this out yet to confirm but i remember reading that somewhere if i read it right. i also came from att (iphone) and being able to use data (3G) and voice at the same time was a major plus. ill have to try it out though later on my epic.
Yes u can use data while on a call only if you are on WiFi or 4g. Tested and verified.
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Well, drat. Thanks fellas. Not that I do that very often, but it does come in handy. I checked and EVO "suffers" from the same problem.
Again, thanks, that's handy to know.
Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
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Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
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Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
yeah, i experience the same thing. it's becoming pretty much a deal breaker for me, as often i am on the phone for an hour or more and am trying to look things up at the same time. no joy. plus the abysmal battery life has me glad that i am still in the 30 day window ?; i like the phone a lot otherwise. wish i could get it for ATT. i have never had problems with their service, and would love to be able to talk and surf at the same time.
On 3g only voice.
On 4g voice n data simultaneous
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Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
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+1 you can thank the iPhone and this great "feature" for the ****ty network over at ATT
That OTA update came just in the nick of time. I pushed it myself after I read about how to do it and still hadn't received the update. I left for Manila on Friday the 12th and have been loving the wifi calling here!! It has been a life saver in terms of paying for international calling. There is zero lag and the call sounds just as good as if I were on the network in the states. I can't really imagine a use for it while in the country since it still takes minutes, but I guess if you are in an area without TMobile but yet still has a wifi connection with a fast enough speed to carry the call, then it could be useful. I just don't know where that place is... All I can tell you is that it has been working amazingly well in the Philippians and I have been able to make and receive calls without interruption all week. My colleagues who have needed to pack an extra phone with international calling abilities have been absolutely green with envy as I'm still able to do business easily in the office without needing to be on a landline or paying extra to use my cell phone in the hotel. What a great innovation!!! Even texting has worked just as if I were still in the states. Everybody I call and text have had a hard time remembering that I'm out of the country since it is still not totally normal to be receiving calls and texts from the same US number even though I'm abroad.
Anyway, I thought I'd share. I tried it while I was in the states, but didn't know if the clarity or quality of the call was influenced by being near the TMobile network anyway. I can tell you for sure that it is a great thing with no downside. You do need more than just a wifi signal though. If the signal isn't strong enough then the phone won't register to the TMobile network and it won't work. Oddly enough, when it says the signal isn't strong enough to make calls, they still come in just fine. Maybe just a couple bugs to work out, but this has definitely made me glad I went with TMobile and not Sprint when I was shopping for a new Android.
Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
As for "getting an international phone", the G2 probably could have been unlocked (barring S-OFF issues) to work with the GSM there just fine.
I just took my G1 to Australia after getting the unlock code from T-Mo, and it worked great there, 3G with an Australian SIM.
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Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
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I remember someone on this forum confirming that if you use Wi-Fi calling, your phone is treated as though it's roaming in the states, which makes it extremely useful for those who commute internationally, like the OP.
Does wifi calling/texting count as data charge (becouse if it does, I'll be able to text for free anywhere there is wifi)
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WiFi Calling feature uses plan minutes and plan txt messages... there are no extra charges unless you go over your limit
I was unaware it used plan minutes. Sounds pointless now unless I have bad signal in the house
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I was unaware it used plan minutes. Sounds pointless now unless I have bad signal in the house
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As soon as you turn it on, it says it uses plan minutes.
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Yeah, unless you just don't get a good signal in your house, there isn't much point to the wifi calling since it still uses your plan minutes. From here it works just like I'm in my office at home. I can call and text local numbers without having to dial any other weird country codes or anything. And people at home don't even need to know I'm out of the country since they just call my number and my phone rings just like normal.
Typically I have just used skype to call for free computer to computer since using it to call a phone number costs money. But now I can use the wifi and that is so much better! However, my hotel doesn't allow the phone to register with Tmobile, so some servers are going to put the kabosh on using this type of thing. I'm just wondering if it would work from the plane when I'm flying domestically and have the wifi available to me... FCC regulations prohibit using a phone during flight even if you are connected to wifi, so it doesn't really matter I guess.
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Does wifi calling/texting count as data charge (becouse if it does, I'll be able to text for free anywhere there is wifi)
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The texting still counts as texting and not as a data charge. So it basically just uses whatever you already have on your plan. If you are out of text messages or minutes, then you will get charged for going over just like usual. I've got an unlimited plan for all that, so it isn't something I really keep track of.
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Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
As for "getting an international phone", the G2 probably could have been unlocked (barring S-OFF issues) to work with the GSM there just fine.
I just took my G1 to Australia after getting the unlock code from T-Mo, and it worked great there, 3G with an Australian SIM.
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I'm sure it could have been, but that is why I'm glad the wifi calling update came when it did. It saved me the trouble of needing to do it. Anytime I've been away from the office where I haven't had a wifi signal to attach to has been times when I don't really want to talk on the phone anyway. Especially here... I really don't want people seeing me with a G2 in my hand when it is a pretty lusted after phone here. Everything is uber cheap here, but I was at a less than legitimate item mall yesterday and they had a G2 in the same case as an iPad. I can get a 32GB ipad for less than a G2 here.
I've been looking over a few threads here about the soft data caps that T-Mobile uses. I'm aware about how it works and everything but I've found something kind of odd. I've seen a couple of posts about other people having some success with it.
Over the past 3 or 4 months my phone has been my primary internet connection by using the hotspot feature. This phone is completely stock (non rooted, no custom roms, etc) and within a few days of my new billing cycle I would hit the 5GB data limit for my plan. Out of frustration I turned off WCDMA/GSM auto to GSM to see if it would work faster. I turned it back to auto after a day or two and found that I had been un-throttled. I would check the My Account app on my phone and it would state that I had been throttled but everything is working on 4G speeds.
So this month just out of curiosity I've been using as much data as possible just to see if anything will be done. I'm not trying to be a data hog or anything, this is just out of curiosity. I'm 7 days into my billing cycle and have used over 22 gigs and still going strong. I'm currently streaming Netflix in HD and have two laptops and another smart phone using the data.
Does anyone know if I'll see a cease and desist letter from T-Mobile or if anything at all will happen?
Side note: This phone/T-Mobile has really surprised me with the speeds and capabilities it has. I used an iPhone4 with AT&T to stream Netflix and the quality and buffering was horrendous in comparison.
This sounds extremely beautiful to me as I bought the 10$ 200mb and I blow through that in less then a day. If this works you would not believe how happy this would make me. As for T-Mobile doing a cease and desist order I would highly doubt it. When I had a T-Mobile dash 2 years ago, without a data plan I was able to connect to the internet free of charge, and I would watch youtube Justin.tv and so on. I did this for almost 1 and a half years and have seen nothing from T-Mobile.
so basically, all you did was turn it to only GSM for a day or two, and then back on and the throttle went away?
Im gonna try the same thing and see what kinda speeds im getting after I turn it back on. 5gigs goes really quick and throttled speeds suck, Drives me crazy.. Ill get back with my results..
Subscribing to this... I just got a throttle boner. If this turns out to work for other folks I will seriously **** my pants. I had to upgrade to the $60 10gb plan bc I have been using this as my primary internet.
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Haha I remember this hack from the G1 days, when people used over 2gb data at that time. It actually works, it tricks the system I guess. I thought tmo patched it.
I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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Sure. Type *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer. From in there you can choose GSM only.
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Sure. Type *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer. From in there you can choose GSM only.
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Since it is decided on their side i don't think they will try any legal action or whatever against you, happy throttling
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I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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/Settings/Wireless & Networks/Mobile Networks/Network Mode. Then select GSM only
thats the first place I looked but to no avail, I can't seem to find the network modes but the *#4636#*#* works just fine, has anyone found this method to work?
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thats the first place I looked but to no avail, I can't seem to find the network modes but the *#4636#*#* works just fine, has anyone found this method to work?
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i dont remember stock rom having the 2g option so...yea
What phone are you currently using?
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Just an update on my usage. I've attached a screenshot of the amount of data that I've used so far from the monitor usage section of mytmobile.com
Also a speedtest that I ran just now just to see what it's running at. Right now usually seems around peak time, the ping and download speed is usually a bit faster at night.
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Subscribing to this... I just got a throttle boner. If this turns out to work for other folks I will seriously **** my pants. I had to upgrade to the $60 10gb plan bc I have been using this as my primary internet.
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That's what I was going to have to do to try to avoid being throttled. If you get a chance to try it out let me know what happens.
If anyone else does want to try this if you could let me know what happens. Also if you could let me know the phone model, current data plan, and anything else that you think may be important. I'm curious to know if it is my phone, the MyTouch 4G's in general, or what. I don't know anyone else with a smart phone with T-Mobile that cares about this so if anyone could provide any feedback on this it would be great.
My refill minutes and data just started today and I'm already at 1 gig will probably report back next Sunday
I have gotten the "5gb throttle" text from T-Mobile a couple times but I have never been throttled and that's without doing this "trick". I've never done anything and still seem to not get throttled even tho I've gotten the texts saying they were going to throttle me for the remainder of my cycle. It did it on my MT4G and its also doing it on my Sensation now. Maybe I'm just lucky.
*knocks on wood*
Im trying this asap...I run a shoutcast radio station (limbik frequencies if anyone cares to know) and I drive a truck all night so have been listening via the 4g while i drive...needless to say I run out of data in no time. Even if I upgraded to the 5gb plan (which is the highest they offer me) I'd still run out...1mb per minute, 5-9 hours a night....doesn't add up right! Worst part is that its a nonprofit station that AOL pays for our bandwidth to stream...seriously I shouldn't have to pay out the ass to make sure its running and simultaneously enjoy it!
Seems like some people have said they are more trouble than they are worth. I have two Evo's in the house. I don't really have signal issues but the support dude said he would send it for free so I bit.
I have one. Its awesome. And why are they sending you one if you dont have signal issues?
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can you use the airraave as a wifi router as well and connect it to a cable modem for internet access, or does it only work for Sprint's network? I would love one if it was like an all in one broadband/mobile network hotspot.
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Seems like some people have said they are more trouble than they are worth. I have two Evo's in the house. I don't really have signal issues but the support dude said he would send it for free so I bit.
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Support can't even send one. Did you get an order number? Are you sure you weren't speaking with retention?
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iwin2000 said:
can you use the airraave as a wifi router as well and connect it to a cable modem for internet access, or does it only work for Sprint's network? I would love one if it was like an all in one broadband/mobile network hotspot.
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Nope.
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It's fantastic if you have real signal issues in your house. I would be a very frustrated customer without one. I can't imagine what trouble people have with theirs; I don't even think about the damn thing 99% of the time.
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I have one. Its awesome. And why are they sending you one if you dont have signal issues?
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I'm pretty sure my problem is this....Calls placed with google voice cut off after 30 minutes
so the support guy reset all my crap, new prl, redid the activation, all the normal stuff they do. I doubt it will fix it, and he connected me to the other dept that is going to send out an air rave. I don't have great signal, but I don't think this is the issue. Sounds like it is worth trying out though.
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works great with stock firmware; seeing issues with CM7.0 and CM7.1 where it doesnt automatically find the air rave without my typing in *99
I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
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works great with stock firmware; seeing issues with CM7.0 and CM7.1 where it doesnt automatically find the air rave without my typing in *99
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I never had that problem. Hmmm...
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I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
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Used mine for a day and got rid of it for that very reason, I could not connect to the internet to save my life.
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I used mine for a week or two, then got rid of it, too many problems. First off, the damn thing is a total bandwidth hog. Since there is no way to control what phone numbers get to use it, ALL my neighbors were apparently on it, using all my bandwidth all day long. Second, texts on both of my phones would randomly not send and not receive. Third, your phone's gps will be off. The airave puts out it's own gps signal, which is over a mile away from where it actually is, therefore your phone thinks you are a mile away, which makes using google maps to navigate somewhere a pain.
I spent hours on the phone with airave tech support, these are all "features" of the airave...I.e. the airave is programmed to give your phone a false gps reading.
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I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
The difference has been night & day since I did that, speed wise on the rest of my network. It still goes out every once in a while, but a reboot usually fixes it & I literally would have no service if not for having mine.
I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
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Yes, I tried that, but it wouldn't work. I then called Airave tech support, and was told they stopped letting you do that because they were having problems with it.
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I'm assuming you tried using the online option that allows you to restrict all phone numbers besides the one on your account & weren't successful with it?
The difference has been night & day since I did that, speed wise on the rest of my network. It still goes out every once in a while, but a reboot usually fixes it & I literally would have no service if not for having mine.
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How do you do this? I have noticed that when noone is using the phones, the signal light on the Rave is blinking like someone is on it and I didnt know what that was. Also the bandwidth in my house no is horrible. I cant even watch a video on Youtube without it stopping to buffer. If you can help me with this so I can change the settings that would be great, Thx.
That really sucks, I just moved and get horrible signal but I do not want to use an Airave if it basically means all my neighbors will bog my network way down!
Signal is horrid where I live (for any service) so having the airave is a must.
How do you do this? I have noticed that when noone is using the phones, the signal light on the Rave is blinking like someone is on it and I didnt know what that was.
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If you read my post just a half inch above yours, you would see you can't do it anymore, airave blocked that feature.
I love mine, we could not use our phones in our house at all until we got ours. our neighbors live far enough away that we never have anyone using our signal, and I have pretty good internet so I doubt it would do much anyway.
Sprint offered me an Air Rave a while back ago, what exactly does it do though?
Enhance your 3G? does it work with 4G?
I have an airrave and it works great! for the most part. Lol.