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About the camera...

Is it not that good, or is it just me?
Everytime I take a picture, the camera freezes when saving the picture,
Problem is.. the "frozen" image, is slighly before the actual image which is saved..
Most of my picture so far, are blurred...
Id sort of expected that this camera was lighting fast, but so far it dosent seem so....
On the other hand.. My hands are constantly shaking, and that dosent help much.
So anyone here with steady hands, who takes great pictures, and its just me whos a bad photographer?

I could post on saturday. since the stores are closed aswell as the postal office now in the easter. and I won't be home again untill friday.
But I could post some so that we could compare when I got the phone in my hands.

ukon said:
I could post on saturday. since the stores are closed aswell as the postal office now in the easter. and I won't be home again untill friday.
But I could post some so that we could compare when I got the phone in my hands.
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Lets do, Ill be here all week

TakenName said:
Lets do, Ill be here all week
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I am really interested in how the picture quality will be compared to the X1 and the Magic. If it is anything like either of them, then I hope the Magic.
It is such a shame that I can't get it now, when it is in the mail. but I am just to far away from home at the moment :/
it really sucks tho

Tip for non blurry pictures, use touch focus mode - works very good here.
Seems to focus better and you don't risk rocking the phone because you press the camera key.
Otherwise it's as with all mobile phone cams, the sensors and optics are limited by size, so of course you get better pictures the more light you have.
I find the camera very nice in comparison to my N1.

My pictures turn out just fine. maybe a blurry one once in a while but nothing to complain about. Try turning on the image stabilizer

waleed786 said:
My pictures turn out just fine. maybe a blurry one once in a while but nothing to complain about. Try turning on the image stabilizer
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Image stabilizer!!!! Why didnt I think of that while checking in the settings....
Not the pictures are actually good... Strange thing now, when I click to take the picture, it freezes with a blurry image, but the actual picture is great!

here is some pictures that I've taken today can be found here.
I might upload some other pictures later. but we will see.
I do not think that it is that bad, it is better than the X1 camera, and I do think that the picture quality was slightly better than the Magic camera aswell.
The only thing that I can complain about with this phone would be the battery I guess.. It could have been better. but I tought the same thing about my x1 in the beginning, but now does it last 2 days some times.
2-3 hours when I am teethering the network and downlading with torrent on it tho... but that is things that takes alot of battery.

mine freezes with a blurry image aswell. not sure about the actual quality since ive only seen them on the phone itself.
ive got another question tho, does your camera in macro mode make noise when pressing the button halfway(focusing) its like a loud click, very mechanic sounding?
id say the x2 had a much better camera so far

l4rsh said:
mine freezes with a blurry image aswell. not sure about the actual quality since ive only seen them on the phone itself.
ive got another question tho, does your camera in macro mode make noise when pressing the button halfway(focusing) its like a loud click, very mechanic sounding?
id say the x2 had a much better camera so far
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The loud click is from the autofocus and it is normal!

allright coming from an iphone without autofocus so i didnt know that, cant remember the x2 i had for a week having that sound though.

l4rsh said:
allright coming from an iphone without autofocus so i didnt know that, cant remember the x2 i had for a week having that sound though.
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My X1 has the same clicking noise. It's just not that loud. But hey, it's not the same camera either.

flash
hi . i juz bought an x10, howevr i am a little worried about its FLASH. is it necessary to swtich on the photo light and click pics? if not then from where do i change the flash settings

charbiwala said:
hi . i juz bought an x10, howevr i am a little worried about its FLASH. is it necessary to swtich on the photo light and click pics? if not then from where do i change the flash settings
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Yeah. You have to turn on the LED in settings before it's usable. I've read that it's a limitation in 1.6 but I don't know really. Seems to work great on HTC Legend with 2.1 though.

Yeah, what is the flash like on the x10? Is there a flash????

theres no flash, only a constant light that will blind you!

l4rsh said:
theres no flash, only a constant light that will blind you!
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Yeah, that's true. But I've never really felt the need for a good LED flash, i just use it as a flashlight.

How would you rate the camera then?

dubdec99 said:
How would you rate the camera then?
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I thought the camera in the X1 was pretty good actually but the one in the X10 is insanely great! The image stabilizer is just GREAT! I don't know how I could live without it with my X1! The image quality is great too!

For anyone interested in photo samples from the X10, check this thread from the Esato.com forums:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=195111&watch=topic&start=15

My review and hands-on results with HTC EVO 4G’s 8MP Camera - Paris In Photos

After I got the EVO 4G at Google I/O, I went to France for my honeymoon, and have been using the EVO for taking pictures and videos all around Paris.
My review of the camera and the photos have just been posted at AndroidPolice.com: Review And Hands-On Results With HTC EVO 4G’s 8MP Camera – Paris In Photos
Videos coming later - I'm having trouble uploading them to Youtube from the crappy Internet connection.
Enjoy!

wow... great pictures!

JUST SAW THE MEMORY CARD ISSUE THERE.. ops.. had same problem.. got me a 16gb C4 and problem fixed.. i was worried at first

ajftl said:
JUST SAW THE MEMORY CARD ISSUE THERE.. ops.. had same problem.. got me a 16gb C4 and problem fixed.. i was worried at first
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Keep us posted if it happens again.
Sounds like the new SD card will fix the problem.
I've got my own SD card already loaded with music and pics.
When I get my Evo on Friday, I will just swap it out and be good to go.
Thanks for the post...

To be honest, I am disappointed with the picture quality. I am jealous you went to Paris, and your pictures looked fine, they were just not the quality I was expecting from an 8mp camera. They looked like a 3mp image over sharpened. FWIW, it won't stop me from test driving an Evo.

Everyone forgot to say Congratulations! on getting married. Welcome to eternal lockdown and possibly garnished paychecks. J/P in all seriousness congrats and the pics are beautiful.

any native resolution pics?? or uncompressed?? same thing, i know, not sure the technical term.

what settings are you using?

jeffla said:
To be honest, I am disappointed with the picture quality. I am jealous you went to Paris, and your pictures looked fine, they were just not the quality I was expecting from an 8mp camera. They looked like a 3mp image over sharpened. FWIW, it won't stop me from test driving an Evo.
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You're crazy...I'm a professional photographer and I've seen $700 Digital SLRs shoot worse photos

oh and also understand that he might have sharpening on....and the website obviously will alter the photos somewhat

showmrock said:
You're crazy...I'm a professional photographer and I've seen $700 Digital SLRs shoot worse photos
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Agreed. This camera is VERY good.. people are just expecting too much when they hear "8 megapixels". The sensor and optics in the camera on the back are great. Plain and simple. Don't drop your DSLR or point-and-shoot just yet, but definitely keep the EVO handy because with the processor, the pictures snap quickly and they geotag super fast and are easy to send to Flickr. I love it.

To answer some of the questions above, the settings are all auto - the only thing I changed was the resolution. No sharpening has been done, either when shooting or after. In fact, the camera doesn't have a sharpen option at all.
The website doesn't alter the photos either - what you are viewing in the lightbox is the full thing, granted it's scaled down by the browser to fit your screen. If you want to view the full size, just right click and copy link or Save As.
And thank you for the congratulations
I still think the camera on the EVO is really nice - yes, the optics could improve but I'm loving that I don't actually HAVE to have my point-and-shoot with me to produce some nice pics.

showmrock said:
You're crazy...I'm a professional photographer and I've seen $700 Digital SLRs shoot worse photos
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yeah im not a pro, but those pictures look GREAT!

fairly well written article, although it saddens me today's consumer needs the 'important parts' bolded so he doesn't have to read comprehensively.
oh wait, we're supposed to be talking about the phone?
yes, yes - nice pictures

Incredible Sunsets...

Here are some i've taken tonight, I take alot of sunset photos, with different settings just to see the outcomes. I did the same and still do the same with my Omnia and with my Digital Cameras to.
Enjoy and please feel free to post some of your own sunset photos to, taken with the Incredible of course
Here are some better outcomes thought you might wanna see them.
Using Camera 30
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5849/c36020100615205540org.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5201/imag0061ap.jpg
Hold Still little one :0
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6400/c36020100615205916.jpg
Standard Camera
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4466/imag0063i.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3236/imag0064u.jpg
Posted as links as photos are big and don't want to lag the board

Guess we have no sunset lovers lol, oh well good to know the camera can pull it off

That looks pretty good for a phone camera. I will be receiving my phone today, It's good to know that I can takes some pics of sunsets over the Florida everglades.
Thanks for the post.

I like the pictures Matter fact, would you be willing to share the original picture of this one:
c36020100615205540org.jpg

Good pics!

zalez said:
I like the pictures Matter fact, would you be willing to share the original picture of this one:
c36020100615205540org.jpg
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That is the original, See the original and the hdr effect copy (crazy bright) below:
HDR Effect
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8016/c36020100615205540.jpg
Original
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5849/c36020100615205540org.jpg

How to get better Quality results when using your Camara?

Hello,
YES!, YES!, I know I'm noob....my first post yeah...OK to the question, when I take pictures using my HD2, and send them to my computer, the pictures don't like as neat and high def as the samples on the phone. I was just wondering if there is way to make it at least a bit more crisp and decent looking than the poor quality and blurness that i get now. The resolution is set to the highest..contrast normal, etc..ANY TIPS...Thank you...

get your hands on BsB Tweaks. Simple .cab install. It has a few options for 'hidden' settings for the camera and camcorder.

I'll do thanks...will that me it sharper??

Honestly I've not done a lot of comparisons, but it does add a SUPERFINE option to the camera, so that has to be worth something!

Finehood, what's the highest resolution setting you see in your camera menu? There should be a 5MP (2592x1552) setting available on there...it's on the second page of resolution options so make sure you didn't miss that.
If you don't see it there, then the BsB option jimbonics mentioned will add that in addition to the "superfine" mode. It also adds a couple of other modes you might like, so it's worth checking out. If you can't or won't use BsB, then they're available as just a regular cab too.

thanks...guys..
thank you guys....and yes I do have it in 5mp, but still the quality looks awful, but I'll be getting the bsb tweak...that sounds like it might fix my problems..any other suggestion is welcome!!!!THANK YOU

finehood said:
thank you guys....and yes I do have it in 5mp, but still the quality looks awful, but I'll be getting the bsb tweak...that sounds like it might fix my problems..any other suggestion is welcome!!!!THANK YOU
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Check out these other tips too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7229727&postcount=2
(the last one on that list is what we've already suggested above)

thanks again...
good tips...I'll keep you guys post it if it gets better!!

Are you having a lot of noise problems ? Unfortunately that's not going to go away. If you're expecting some quality pictures like what a real camera would take you'll be quite disappointed . I've tried tweaking it myself left and right and every which way possible. I've seen some sample pictures from the EVO and even with it's 8MP cam it does not look a whole lot better.

good to know..
actually, u know what..i kind of knew that it would never be close to a regular picture cam, but with the high megapixels at least i was expecting something decent...but thank you...I did the bsb tweaks and got a bit better...the hidden tricks are all right...thanks everyone..

the fact is HD2 cam is poorer than HD's. I have both devices, HD in default (auto) settings takes very well pix, and HD2 (even after tweaks) takes puctures "ugly". The overall temperature of the shot is in grey tones domination, while HD take very realistic, closer to simple digicams. If anybody has an answers, please comment. Would be great if we will be able to take pix even just HD does.

When you take a picture and look at it from your computer is the size of the picture the same as the HD2's screen?
I'll usually just right click on the picture and send it to paint, click on image, then stretch/skew function. I'll reduce it to at least 50% / 50% and work my way down from there. That usually increases the image quality for me. I don't need a picture the size of three of my computer screens. Hope it helps.

When in doubt my friend photoshop is your friend

right...
photoshop will do the fixing for us....jiji...but like i said before i was just wondering if there was a way to make it better...like a tweak or a .cab, etc. bsb is not bad, but it doen't make the image any better in quality...but good tweak really good tweaks..

finehood said:
photoshop will do the fixing for us....jiji...but like i said before i was just wondering if there was a way to make it better...like a tweak or a .cab, etc. bsb is not bad, but it doen't make the image any better in quality...but good tweak really good tweaks..
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What we have here folks is a hardware problem not a software problem. Well actually a little bit of both . All the software tweaks out there does help a bit compared to the stock camera but that's as far as your going to get. Software can only do so much and there isn't a magical software solution when you are coupled with a lousy quality camera lens. The fact is HTC has probably cheapened out the quality of the camera lens compared to earlier phones but regardless the HD2 is a phone first not a camera. Short of replacing the whole lens there's very little software can do when the hardware isn't up to par.

I've had my HD2 since June 30th and believe me this thing takes MUCH BETTER pics than my Blackberry Bold 9700 did at 3.2MP and that phone took some really nice pictures.
I think it depends on the environment your in at the time. I took a few close up pics of my Wife and kids and those images came out beautiful. I also took some scenery shots in landscape and those images came out awsome as well. I took some pics inside the Tennessee Aquarium and had mixed results. As long as the lighting was good the images came out great. In darker settings the images were not as sharp.
I do use BsB Tweeks and I also have my resolution set to 5MP. I'm not sure why your camera is producing such awful images but I'm very pleased with mine.

squire366 said:
I do use BsB Tweeks and I also have my resolution set to 5MP. I'm not sure why your camera is producing such awful images but I'm very pleased with mine.
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Is it awful? He never posted any samples of his pictures. Are you really pleased because I'm not. How good the pictures actually look to an individual are highly subjective. I would hardly consider the pictures I've taken pleasing but I'm just going to have to settle.
I think the problem here is that finehood is really picky and had high expectations. I'm assuming what he had in mind were quality pictures closer to that of a real camera.

Sounds like user error to me. Try wiping your lens before taking pics. . My HD2 takes great pics.

Pop...
Take a picture at max resolution. Then copy that picture over to your pc. View that picture at 100%. You'll see it looks like ass.

hey guys...
i was reading some of the posts, and it makes sense, believe me I never got the wild idea of a phone cam being equal or better quality than a normal cam... but even with the 5 mp and the tweaks and considering light issues or environment surrounding your pics is not even close to a decent quality that's all I'm saying, the pictures look BEAUTIFUL on your phone, really neat and crisp, once you transfer your pics to a computer and see it in full scale you'll know what I'm talking about...blurriness, blur edges, sometimes pixelete images mainly in the face, I'm happy with the phone....and all it does, but I WAS JUST WONDERING if there was a way to make it a bit better...BSB Tweaks did some adjustments...thanks for the feedback guys, I'll be posting some pics shortly..so you guys get the idea....

Post a picture taken with your Focus!!

Ok, I went through the first 8 or 9 pages in the Focus section and never found a thread for this. So, I decided to make one. Pretty much every other phone I owned had a thread for this and it was fun to look at pictures people take to test out there camera.
In less than a full year I have went from an HTC PURE to a HTC MAGIC to a NEXUS ONE to a XPERIA X10 to a SAMSUNG GALAXY S CAPTIVATE and now to my lovely brand new SAMSUNG FOCUS....alot of phone switching I know. But im so happy with my Focus...I think WP7 is pretty damn awesome so far and its a great break from Android (which Im a little bored with).
One of the things I have been VERY impressed with in the Focus is the camera quality. So, hopefully we can keep this thread going and take pictures and post them for other people to see.
Ill start, I only have 1 pic to post for now, but Ill get more for sure. This shot was from work, just the first day after I got my phone so I was testing the camera.
Let the picture posting begin!!!

Taken in my backyard:

naplesbill said:
Taken in my backyard:
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Nice pic man! what camera settings were you using for that?
ps. nice backyard to

I don't really remember exactly. I took a few and I was switching between macro and normal mode. I haven't had to change much in settings to get good pics on this phone. I have messed with macro, white balance most often. I have never used the antishake setting.
I think this camera is pretty good honestly.

My camera takes some great outdoor photos, but it seems to struggle with focus indoors. Anyone else notice that?

Speaking of indoor pictures:
Right before the start of Disney Princesses on Ice, taken with absolutely no skill or changes to any settings. Y'know, just to give an impression about what can be expected normally.

I have had issues with indoor focus a few times. I have also been able to get some really good indoor pictures. Unfortunately, I cannot share those pictures.
I will try to get some for this thread eventually. Here is another outdoor shot from my backyard. For this one, I used Macro mode.

One from the streets of Montreal
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthieu/5234826846/sizes/l/in/photostream/

tewmgd said:
One from the streets of Montreal
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthieu/5234826846/sizes/l/in/photostream/
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Nice pic for low lighting man!!! Shows the focus is definetly capable of making those shots good.
ps..I would hate to be paying there power bill lol

naplesbill said:
I have had issues with indoor focus a few times. I have also been able to get some really good indoor pictures. Unfortunately, I cannot share those pictures.
I will try to get some for this thread eventually. Here is another outdoor shot from my backyard. For this one, I used Macro mode.
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Nice macro shot!
Anyone try playing with the sharpness yet? its medium by default, Ive taken a few pictures with it set to max and they seem nicer.

Here's a shot I took at the auto show a few weeks ago. No tweaks applied. Just pulled it out of my pocket and snapped.
Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Since I've rarely ever posted (first time, LONG time) you'll have to visit the link manually
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As you can see, I had nothing else to do but take some pictures on the new phone. I rather enjoy it as my wall paper; its a friendly reminder to leave the house a bit earlier to avoid the traffic.
Note,
The when taking the picture, it also saved GPS info such as Altitude, latitude and longitude, nice touch.

Anti-shaking on, Wide Dynamic Range on, and sharpness set to high.

mrdondre said:
Anti-shaking on, Wide Dynamic Range on, and sharpness set to high.
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I like how the background is blurred out....you didn't use macro for that shot?

Mr Patchy Patch said:
I like how the background is blurred out....you didn't use macro for that shot?
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Oh wow! I didn't know there was a macro option. :x no.

Christmas time
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8424580/PS_000004.jpg

pigue said:
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Great pic! Did you do anything special with the camera settings?

Just shot and hit soften in Picture lap app. Thats all.

heres mine!
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/4462649/1/focus photos?h=91af57

here's mine