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On the fence between the N1/HD2/Droid/Waiting for this new Dell tablet thing.
The only thing thats really keeping me from pulling the trigger on a N1 is that I keep hearing that the radio sucks for 3g, and now also wifi.
Now I like to assume these people are just n00bs and don't know how to get the best out of their phones like us xda geeks do.
So how true are they? Any regrets here on the boards?
P.S I'm in London,UK.
ive yet to have a problem, and i think its more of a US based problem than a UK one and I am in the US... get the N1 and dont look back, its a solid phone... the droid is a step down in my opinion
just got mine
I was thinking the same thing you where, I just went for it and order one. I have no issues with the 3G. The N1 is fantastic, and it is very fast. I think the early issues people have complained about must have been from an earlier batch of phone in the beginning stages on the release.
PS: in NYC
Had no problems with 3G or wifi
I honestly think the 3G issues is exacerbated here in the U.S. on T-mobile's network where they don't have "deep" coverage. In larger cities, such as Chicago (where I've tested my theory), no amount of covering the lower back portion of the phone caused me to drop off 3G. I went from 4 bars to 3, and that's about it. Here in Toledo, Ohio, T-mobile hasn't saturated the area with 3G, and covering the phone while indoors drops me to Edge. Outdoors I'm still fine.
0 WiFi problems here. On ATT, so I can't comment on 3G, but reception has been strong for voice.
Had no problems with 3G or wifi for almost 2 months with this speedster!
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Had no problems with 3G or wifi for almost 2 months with this speedster!
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Las Vegas = 3G saturation
Damn you big city dwellers...
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Las Vegas = 3G saturation
Damn you big city dwellers...
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uansari1 said:
I honestly think the 3G issues is exacerbated here in the U.S. on T-mobile's network where they don't have "deep" coverage. In larger cities, such as Chicago (where I've tested my theory), no amount of covering the lower back portion of the phone caused me to drop off 3G. I went from 4 bars to 3, and that's about it. Here in Toledo, Ohio, T-mobile hasn't saturated the area with 3G, and covering the phone while indoors drops me to Edge. Outdoors I'm still fine.
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haha, toledo... i grew up in sylvania and all i can say is i am glad i am out of that **** hole of a city... and yes the 3g there is weaksauce... but that is a "verizon town"... i literally think 80% of the pop has verizon in toledo
silverkiller said:
Now I like to assume these people are just n00bs and don't know how to get the best out of their phones like us xda geeks do.
So how true are they? Any regrets here on the boards?
P.S I'm in London,UK.
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I may be a junior member on this forum, but my 3G issues are legit. It's a design flaw, but as long as I'm in an area with strong 3G it never drops. At my house, my G1 will have stable 3G, but I can play the hand trick with the N1. Not a big deal, Wifi solves that. It only annoys me when it flip flops between 3G and EDGE, which you can fix. Really comes down to how good your coverage is.
Issues or not, no regrets here, I love my phone.
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haha, toledo... i grew up in sylvania and all i can say is i am glad i am out of that **** hole of a city... and yes the 3g there is weaksauce... but that is a "verizon town"... i literally think 80% of the pop has verizon in toledo
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You're right about everything, lol... Verizon does have great coverage here. I'm only here for law school... originally from Cincinnati. I'm done in December and moving to Maryland/D.C.
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I may be a junior member on this forum, but my 3G issues are legit. It's a design flaw, but as long as I'm in an area with strong 3G it never drops. At my house, my G1 will have stable 3G, but I can play the hand trick with the N1. Not a big deal, Wifi solves that. It only annoys me when it flip flops between 3G and EDGE, which you can fix. Really comes down to how good your coverage is.
Issues or not, no regrets here, I love my phone.
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Where in Ohio are you man? I completely believe you. But I put the blame on T-mo. I don't think they has really great coverage anywhere in the state, but I can only comment on Cincinnati, Cleveland and Toledo. When I visited my sis in Chicago a few weeks ago, I couldn't get the phone to drop below 3 bars of 3G. As I've said repeatedly in other threads, I think it's T-mo's greater level of 3G saturation in those cities. More towers, more overlap among those towers, etc. That's the logical conclusion. Sure HTC's antenna placement doesn't help, but with adequate data coverage, it would be a non-issue.
The 3G issue seems to be case-by-case. Sometimes I can't block signal no matter what I do, other times it's an obvious drop to edge when i hold my phone with my hand.
I've found in such situations, having the new cyanogen ROM with the 180˚ rotation helps a lot. Hold the phone upside down and I suddenly have full HSDPA
I don't have 3G where I live, but when I was down in San Luis Obispo where there's HSDPA, and when I went to a friend's house on the outskirts of 3G coverage, I had no problem dropping back to EDGE, then when I'd go outside or closer to downtown I'd get my 3G signal back.
I'm on CM5 as well in a small town in the Midwestern US. I don't really get 3G problems, but I DO see the phone switch back and forth between H and 3G while it manages the data connection. Sometimes this seems to make the data stall, but a reload of whatever I'm doing fixes it.
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I am on O2 & in London the 3G is very good, I downloaded an album from the Amazon MP3 store this morning & it was very quick. Coverage will depend on carrier, but the N1 seems to have a better connection than any of my previous WinMo devices, almost all HTC based.
At home I have an imperfect 3G signal, I get it about 75% of the time depending on where I am in the house. I don't think its an N1 issue, just poor coverage.
If I need speed at home and the 3G drop the Wifi is great, never had an issue with that.
I'm about 7 weeks into the N1 & I can't fault it.
I've never had a problem, here on the East Coast of the US.
i live in Houston, TX i would switch from edge, to 3g constantly...
thankfully my college i got accepted to sends every freshmen a new iphone3Gs and are required to use. so now i must be a AT&T fanboy lol
The things mentioned were all rumors, they keep trying to find a flaw to this device, even though it's so new, with such huge improvements, in my experience its a flawless device.
I'm from new jersey, Edge, 3G, HSDPA, and Wifi all tested working flawlessly. From all the made up myths (screen, connectivity, you name it) the 1 thing that I disliked from this phone was the screens' ability to attract more fingerprints than a CSI show, and I fixed this issue by getting invisible shield (rubbery screen protector).
Rooted the N1, installed my trackball colors, got cyanogen 5+ with Kspec theme = 100% amazing phone, apps such as Gmote, google earth among so many more, make this thing so much more than a phone, I never drop from HSDPA to 3G or Edge unless I go to New York, I seem to be on 3G speeds at times, but in NJ HSDPA all day long. If you have any questions about the device, email me at [email protected] I'll link you to my youtube vids for information or questions. Take it from me and others that actually own the device, that its a well rounded cellphone and it's not even 3 months old. I've had a g1, mytouch, cliq, iphone 3gs, nothing comes close to this phone, btw check out tmobiles (even more plus) new plans, I pay 65 after taxes for all my needs, unlimited text, web, mobile to mobile, weeknights and weekends. They may charge you $30 to go to the cheaper plans. Take care.
- Gslick
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On the fence between the N1/HD2/Droid/Waiting for this new Dell tablet thing.
The only thing thats really keeping me from pulling the trigger on a N1 is that I keep hearing that the radio sucks for 3g, and now also wifi.
Now I like to assume these people are just n00bs and don't know how to get the best out of their phones like us xda geeks do.
So how true are they? Any regrets here on the boards?
P.S I'm in London,UK.
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On a more serious note, I don't seem to suffer crap wifi or mobile data (Vodafone contract), but you do read a lot about people with issues.
Do I regret it? Nope.
Whats your fastest 4g speed ?
I clocked mine in today at 637 on 4g and 1991 on 3g.... its disappointing....
please post yours
Around three our four mbs
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I see you're in Vegas. WiMAX is inconsistent here. It's fast where & when aren't many using the network and you have a good signal, which in our suburbs isn't easy to come by.
Try the 4G out on Blue Diamond near Dean Martin, where it's mostly flatland and probably 500 houses+the shopping center. The WiMAX tower is in the parking lot.
If you had a T-Mobile 3G phone, it's going to be more consistent speed-wise with less fluctuation. Vegas is almost completely HSPA+
4g isnt working properly right now. Everyone around the US, even in 4g areas, are all reporting terrible 4g network speeds.
Try to call Sprint and ask what the problem is, if it really bothers you, make a big deal out of it and sprint will probably offer something to make you a little happier (maybe).
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4g isnt working properly right now. Everyone around the US, even in 4g areas, are all reporting terrible 4g network speeds.
Try to call Sprint and ask what the problem is, if it really bothers you, make a big deal out of it and sprint will probably offer something to make you a little happier (maybe).
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It's either congestion or it really just is that slow, here it really is just that slow. The EVO might have slowed things down more, but the 4G network not working properly sounds like an excuse for the influx of data with the network not being able to handle it and not a real reason. There are probably tower outages and stuff occurring but nothing like that can affect the network nationwide. If it was nationwide no one would be able to use 4G.
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It's either congestion or it really just is that slow, here it really is just that slow. The EVO might have slowed things down more, but the 4G network not working properly sounds like an excuse for the influx of data with the network not being able to handle it and not a real reason. There are probably tower outages and stuff occurring but nothing like that can affect the network nationwide. If it was nationwide no one would be able to use 4G.
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I wasnt using that as an excuse why its not working. But there is something definitely going on. Could be from so many people trying to use it. But you would think sprint anticipated that.
I guess its just that slow. I thought 4g would be on the same page as clearwire since I was thinking that its also on the same network as Sprint. CLEARWIRE in my area is clocking in at 2700 to 3200 and correct me if I am wrong but isn't CLEARWIRE owned by Sprint and running on 4g WIMAX as well ?
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I guess its just that slow. I thought 4g would be on the same page as clearwire since I was thinking that its also on the same network as Sprint. CLEARWIRE in my area is clocking in at 2700 to 3200 and correct me if I am wrong but isn't CLEARWIRE owned by Sprint and running on 4g WIMAX as well ?
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It's probably either a: poor signal quality with the Evo or b:Sprint is prioritizing the HTC Evo and giving it lower speed. If you're getting faster speed with your Clearwire stick that's really the only two things it could be. How many bars are you getting with your HTC Evo vs your Clearwire stick?
I'm getting full scale on my CLEARWIRE while I am getting 1 bar on 4g.
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I'm getting full scale on my CLEARWIRE while I am getting 1 bar on 4g.
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I'm sure I don't have to tell you that with WiMAX, if your signal is poor your speeds will slow too and that's likely to be the cause of your slow speed with the HTC Evo. So it's the phones reception and not the network in this case.
This is really disturbing. I did some extensive testing today in 3 areas roughly 20-30 miles apart. Two of the areas had 4G coverage and 1 did not.
For the carrier, I have both Sprint (recent) and TMobile (2 years). For the hardware I used the new Sprint Evo 4G and for Tmobile I used a 1 month old HTC HD2...so both top of the line phones.
The Tmobile phone (HD2) had consistent data rates no matter where I was or how many signal bars I had. I had flashed a stock rom back into the phone so both units are running stock. The stock rom only showed 3G as the data connection and not the "H" that 3rd party roms sometimes show for HSDPA. The HD2 consistently downloaded at anywhere between 1.3 and 1.8kbps. The uploads were also consistenly above 1.2kbps and never dropped below that point, although a few tests were slightly faster.
The Evo 4G was tested both with and without 4G being present. When 4G was present, the signal varied wildly between no actual bars showing (but the 4G icon present) to full bars (3). The speed when 4G was available was all over the place...from 450-1.8kbps. I believe that sprint has capped the uploads at 1.0kbps, but the 4G uploads never even made it close. The fastest upload speeds I showed with 3 full bars of 4G were only 700kbps, with most in the 400-600kbps range. When I switched off 4G (in a 4G area) or simply drove to an area with no 4G, my uploads remained at roughly the same speed, but my downloads plummeted to 400-600kbps.
I also verified that there was no ability to talk and use data at the same time if not in a 4G area and have 4G enabled. The most disturbing thing I found was that if I was on a phone call (in a 4G area) without the 4G enabled...then turned it on (while still on phone call), most times it could not find the 4G signal.
Please keep in mind that I also use Clear WiMax for home internet and some of these tests were run only a few feet away from my home receiver. I have 5 bars on my home receiver. There is a 4G wimax tower less than a mile to the south of me and another just over a mile to the east of me, so I am wedged between 2 fairly close towers and should have had excellent reception in that area. The Evo would switch between no bars and 3 bars simply by walking around my room or standing in one spot and rotating my body towards and away from the window. I performed the tests near a window and outside. When inside, I was standing near a window on a 2nd story, so I was above most other homes and obstacles. Should be a best case scenario for the phone...to say the least, I was NOT impressed. Hopefully this is simply a network or firmware issue and can be resolved before my 30 days elapse or this phone is going back. otherwise I can't fault it...love the hardware...hate the 4G hype if it can't be fixed.
IMHO, it's a handheld.. the antenna is not nearly as big as the one in your Home modem. So a new radio might help but it will never be close to what you get with your Moto Home Modem.... is your area one of the cities mentioned going HSPA+ for T-Mobile?
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IMHO, it's a handheld.. the antenna is not nearly as big as the one in your Home modem. So a new radio might help but it will never be close to what you get with your Moto Home Modem.... is your area one of the cities mentioned going HSPA+ for T-Mobile?
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I have no idea if I'm in one of the areas for the HSPA+. I live in Dallas, TX. We have 4G coverage from Dallas to Mesquite to Garland, so a fairly large area. As for Tmobile, I also have a G1, Touchpro 2 and the HD2. All of those phones have a faster transfer rate (3G) than my Evo (in 4G mode). As for the home modem, I am aware that the unit has a much larger antenna and don't expect the phone to perform in the same class. I referenced that for comparison to anyone else having the same home internet service. Clear tells customers that they should get mostly full speeds with 3 bars present, so I was letting readers know that I am in a 5 bar area, so there was a very solid signal for my testing.
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I have no idea if it's one of the areas. I live in Dallas, TX. We have 4G coverage from Dallas to Mesquite to Garland, so a fairly large area. As for Tmobile, I also have a G1, Touchpro 2 and the HD2. All of those phones have a faster transfer rate (3G) than my Evo. As for the home modem, I am aware that the unit has a much larger antenna. I referenced that for comparison to anyone else having the same home internet service. Clear tells customers that they should get mostly full speeds with 3 bars present, so I was letting readers know that I am in a 5 bar area so should have a very solid signal.
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Right I understand, I experienced the same with the HTC Evo. Signal strength just isn't very strong with the phone right now, and 4G is extremely reliant on signal quality.
Lets hope that this is something that will be fixed since 4g is in its infant stages. It was just a disappointment when I clocked my Evo against my wifes Nexus 1, i was certain that I would blow her download speeds away and instead I was the one that was blown away. The wife laughed at me.
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Lets hope that this is something that will be fixed since 4g is in its infant stages. It was just a disappointment when I clocked my Evo against my wifes Nexus 1, i was certain that I would blow her download speeds away and instead I was the one that was blown away. The wife laughed at me.
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It's really not even the network from what it sounds, it sounds like it's the phone. I too get faster speeds with other 4G devices. 4G has been here for nearly a year.
Your wife has the N1 on T-Mobile? T-Mobile HSPA+ is active in most of Vegas, but the upgrade isn't complete yet. Either way the network is really fast here now. It used to be really slow.
its fine here in south jersey near philly. getting 3-4Mbps on 4g. not as good at my house... as soon as i get 1 minute from my house it drops back to 3g and only 400-650kbps. 3g a minute or so away from my house was getting 1-1.5Mbps. no complaints cause at my house i just turn on wifi
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This is really disturbing. I did some extensive testing today in 3 areas roughly 20-30 miles apart. Two of the areas had 4G coverage and 1 did not.
For the carrier, I have both Sprint (recent) and TMobile (2 years). For the hardware I used the new Sprint Evo 4G and for Tmobile I used a 1 month old HTC HD2...so both top of the line phones.
The Tmobile phone (HD2) had consistent data rates no matter where I was or how many signal bars I had. I had flashed a stock rom back into the phone so both units are running stock. The stock rom only showed 3G as the data connection and not the "H" that 3rd party roms sometimes show for HSDPA. The HD2 consistently downloaded at anywhere between 1.3 and 1.8kbps. The uploads were also consistenly above 1.2kbps and never dropped below that point, although a few tests were slightly faster.
The Evo 4G was tested both with and without 4G being present. When 4G was present, the signal varied wildly between no actual bars showing (but the 4G icon present) to full bars (3). The speed when 4G was available was all over the place...from 450-1.8kbps. I believe that sprint has capped the uploads at 1.0kbps, but the 4G uploads never even made it close. The fastest upload speeds I showed with 3 full bars of 4G were only 700kbps, with most in the 400-600kbps range. When I switched off 4G (in a 4G area) or simply drove to an area with no 4G, my uploads remained at roughly the same speed, but my downloads plummeted to 400-600kbps.
I also verified that there was no ability to talk and use data at the same time if not in a 4G area and have 4G enabled. The most disturbing thing I found was that if I was on a phone call (in a 4G area) without the 4G enabled...then turned it on (while still on phone call), most times it could not find the 4G signal.
Please keep in mind that I also use Clear WiMax for home internet and some of these tests were run only a few feet away from my home receiver. I have 5 bars on my home receiver. There is a 4G wimax tower less than a mile to the south of me and another just over a mile to the east of me, so I am wedged between 2 fairly close towers and should have had excellent reception in that area. The Evo would switch between no bars and 3 bars simply by walking around my room or standing in one spot and rotating my body towards and away from the window. I performed the tests near a window and outside. When inside, I was standing near a window on a 2nd story, so I was above most other homes and obstacles. Should be a best case scenario for the phone...to say the least, I was NOT impressed. Hopefully this is simply a network or firmware issue and can be resolved before my 30 days elapse or this phone is going back. otherwise I can't fault it...love the hardware...hate the 4G hype if it can't be fixed.
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1 kbp/s? My phone line is 56 times faster
So this whole reception vs wrong bar display has really been bugging me. I decided to run a test . Took my son's Nuron to Target. Went to the back of the store and the bars dropped a little but stayed 3G the whole time. Took the sim card out and placed it back in my Vibrant standing in the same spot. Phone came up. 3G/Zero bars. After just a few seconds it switched to Edge.
What does this tell me? That the Vibrant is definitely weaker in the recption department. I'm on the fence whether on keeping it now. I have 2. Already swapped both of them out once just to make sure. All 4 phones are pretty bad in reception. My wife can't even get a 3g connection in her office and she sits by a window. Opinions?
My vibrant gets 3g in places my nexus dreamed of getting it wiithout the force 3g hack..
I'm happy with the reception. I do think it does lose some signal but not as much as the bars are leading. ..
But yea my n1 was worse in the 3g department in my opinion. ...
Bars are definitely misleading. As a matter of fact, I'm not even concerned with the bars anymore. I'm concerned with maintaining a 3G connection and not swapping to Edge. I've been looking at the actual -dB via *#*#197328640#*#* and it's at around -105 plus/minus 5 when the bars go to zero.
I really think it's just a software glitch. I've done this a few time with speed tests where I take my SIM out of the Vibrant and back into the G1, run some tests, then put it back into the Vibrant, and run some more tests. The Vibrant, while displaying 3-4 fewer bars, is about 3-4x faster than the G1.
So I take it for what it's worth.
The reception with the device is definitely a concern.
I live in the best 3G coverage area this city has to offer. I'm surrounded by HSPA+ antennas, and if I don't touch the device (and have a 'clear signal'), I can pull down 8 6Mbps, easily. As soon as I enter a building, I can barely stay connected to 3G, with speeds that fluctuate wildly (but are mostly in the sub 1Mbps range. Outside, things are a bit better, and that's understandable. But other 3G phones on the network (like the cheapo MyTouch 3G) do not skip a beat in their reception capabilities, when it comes to indoor performance.
I'll put it like this: There's something wrong in the world, when my bleeding-edge phone can't out-perform the MyTouch 3G in GPS, 3G reception or digital compass tests.
If a fix isn't issued, I'll be waiting for the HTC 'Vanguard / G1 Blaze / whatever'.
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I really think it's just a software glitch. I've done this a few time with speed tests where I take my SIM out of the Vibrant and back into the G1, run some tests, then put it back into the Vibrant, and run some more tests. The Vibrant, while displaying 3-4 fewer bars, is about 3-4x faster than the G1.
So I take it for what it's worth.
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I've done the whole speedtest thing with zero bars and speed doesn't really change. The problem is dropping a 3g and switching to edge. My wife can't even get 3g in her building and she's only about 3 miles from me. Granted she's on the 12th floor but does sit by a window. The thing that bugs me is, I'm paying for the speed but her phone is not getting it. I guess another way to look at it is she should be working anyway and not playing with her phone! But then again, if mama ain't happy, nobody is happy
I don't believe this one bit for the exact same reasons I outlined at the T-Mobile Forums
Flawed, maybe, but still a valid concern. I failed to mention I made calls as well as did a little surfing. Nokia stayed 3g the whole time and never dropped to edge. Samsung switched to edge and didn't come back up to 3g until I walked out of the store.
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Nearly all of what you said doesn't add up or make sense.
T-Mobile's 3G network coverage doesn't match it's GSM/EDGE/2G network coverage yet and thus, they've setup the network to handoff calls to GSM when your 3G signal is poor. There is no WAY that the Nuron kept 3G, especially during a call next to the Vibrant on 0 bars unless your phone is defective.
Secondly whenever I've rebooted my phones and EDGE is far stronger than 3G, to the point where the phone won't stay on 3G.. it will default to the much stronger EDGE signal first before attempting to connect to the 3G network because the signal strength is too low.
Third of all I've had the Nuron next to my CLIQ, and it's switched over to EDGE at the drop of a hat where my CLIQ stayed on 3G completely. I've gone to the same exact places with my Vibrant and it stayed on 3G just like my CLIQ would albeit without the same number of bars. The Nuron is the one of the quickest phones I've ever seen to drop a 3G connection and that's why I dumped it.
So yeah, we need some proof in this case.
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I live in the best 3G coverage area this city has to offer. I'm surrounded by HSPA+ antennas, and if I don't touch the device (and have a 'clear signal'), I can pull down 8Mbps, easily. As soon as I enter a building, I can barely stay connected to 3G, with speeds that fluctuate wildly (but are mostly in the sub 1Mbps range. Outside, things are a bit better, and that's understandable. But other 3G phones on the network (like the cheapo MyTouch 3G) do not skip a beat in their reception capabilities, when it comes to indoor performance.
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Pulling down 8Mbps on a phone that is hardware limited to 7.2Mbps, that's a first! We really need some proof that you "TOUCHING" your phone with one finger drops the signal to EDGE but when you don't touch the phone, you get an impossible 8Mbps... not only is this impossible in all respects, you've yet to prove any of it.
The myTouch 3G you spent so much time around has a Video Camera.
heygrl/spottbby, is it me or are you basically accusing me of lying? If so, wth would I be lying for? Phone wise, I love it. GPS even works for me. I'm asking for opinions not accusations. I don't go around accusing people of lying and asking for proof that their GPS is broken.
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heygrl/spottbby, is it me or are you basically accusing me of lying? If so, wth would I be lying for? Phone wise, I love it. GPS even works for me. I'm asking for opinions not accusations. I don't go around accusing people of lying and asking for proof that their GPS is broken.
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I've spent time with the Nokia Nuron, and most importantly lots of time on T-Mobile's 3G network and there is NO way you held 3G with a Nokia Nuron during an active call next to a Vibrant on EDGE.
And actually, come back to us in 3 days so we can still see if your GPS is still locking in under 5 seconds.
Wow, I hope you're an exception and not the rule of a Senior member. Anyway, I'm done with you. Thanks for being so helpful.
Sell your phone! No seriously, sell it... If you're not happy with it then do it now while you still can. You, I, we can speculate on what the issue is, there can be an update today, tomorrow, or never. If your that dissatisfied move on or please give it more time.
Catchin' the VIBE on the XDApp
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I don't believe this one bit for the exact same reasons I outlined at the T-Mobile Forums
Pulling down 8Mbps on a phone that is hardware limited to 7.2Mbps, that's a first! We really need some proof that you "TOUCHING" your phone with one finger drops the signal to EDGE but when you don't touch the phone, you get an impossible 8Mbps... not only is this impossible in all respects, you've yet to prove any of it.
The myTouch 3G you spent so much time around has a Video Camera.
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Sorry for the typo, I meant to hit "6" and was in a rush and didn't check before I posted. My average for the USB modem is 8 (indoors), and my brain was sleepy at the keyboard and autopilot failed me. The T-Mobile twitter account was posting about 9Mbps speeds here (in Seattle), and I was posting on somewhere else for that, making the point that we have amazing HSPA+ coverage in the city. Too much internet for this sleepy person. Been awake since 4AM. Forgive me, internet. I am only human.
Phone: 6Mbps (until handled by flesh)
USB Modem: 8 (always)
Also, the MyTouch 3G doesn't belong to me, so I can't really just take her home for the night to make pointless internet videos to please someone who identifies themselves as 'heygrl'. If you want to blow the lid off of this conspiracy, you can mail me a video camera, which I will ship back to you once the video is complete. But that would be crazy, no?
Oh, I can't maintain this web of lies any longer!
Actually, you're right: It's all a conspiracy to troll you and your perfect phone that has no problems at all. I decided to come here, create a handle with my real name and location, just to give you **** and lie. My plan was to build up the illusion that I was just "some guy" experiencing problems with his device. I'm actually a sleeper cell for HTC, trying to give the Vibrant bad press, so that the upcoming HSPA+ device can overtake it in market share! And it would've worked too, had it not been for you rotten kids!
Or, maybe, you're just an asshole fanboy that fights every person on these forums who has a problem with their phone because they have nothing better to do than play a written game of 'Defender'?
Watch it, now: those landers can appear out of thin air!
My house is gets marginal reception and the Vibrant was consistently getting no bars, whereas my old Treo had been generally getting one.
When I complained to T-Mobile they said they had seen such problems and that I should activate the SIM card that came with the phone rather than continue to use my old SIM card. They did that, and things improved slightly - still not as good as the Treo, but it is getting one bar now and then, whereas it never did before changing to the new SIM card. As far as 3G at home, thank god for Wifi!
When out and about, the bad spots are still bad spots, but generally I'm getting 3G most places I go.
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Sorry for the typo, I meant to hit "6" and was in a rush and didn't check before I posted. My average for the USB modem is 8 (indoors), and my brain was sleepy at the keyboard and autopilot failed me. The T-Mobile twitter account was posting about 9Mbps speeds here (in Seattle), and I was posting on somewhere else for that, making the point that we have amazing HSPA+ coverage in the city. Too much internet for this sleepy person. Been awake since 4AM. Forgive me, internet. I am only human.
Phone: 6Mbps (until handled by flesh)
USB Modem: 8 (always)
Also, the MyTouch 3G doesn't belong to me, so I can't really just take her home for the night to make pointless internet videos to please someone who identifies themselves as 'heygrl'. If you want to blow the lid off of this conspiracy, you can mail me a video camera, which I will ship back to you once the video is complete. But that would be crazy, no?
Oh, I can't maintain this web of lies any longer!
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Lots of fluff with no delivery..
I live in the best 3G coverage area in my city. I'm blanketed in T-Mo towers on every side. Inside my house, if I don't touch the phone, I pull down 5Mbps+, and Upload at ~2-3Mbps. It's fast enough to tether and use as my primary connection. Latency is ~35-50ms. I can stream Hulu with no hiccups.
However, if I so much as touch the back of the device with a single finger, the 3G drops until it reverts to EDGE. This is with a silicon case, and I can replicate it every time.
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Because you don't have the means to get a video recorder, lets see some speedtest.net results showing your 3Mbps upload and ~35ms ping. I'll wait.
Anyone with half a brain can blow a hole through your "one finger, fully cased drop to EDGE" theory. Your flesh is NOT touching the phone itself, there is no way the phone can be affected by "One finger, in between silicone" theory.
Moreover, how are you doing this? On a glass table with the phone face down so you can see the bars drop as your finger touches the silicone case?
Maybe you've got the phone floating in mid air.
I just used PDAnet last night, when my cable modem died. This phone is really puzzling to me with 3G reception. One moment, I'll have phenomenal speeds (5Mbps down), the next moment, I'll be barely pushing EDGE.
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Did you just acquire that USB modem you have now?
Maybe you're just making it up as you go along. RETURN THE PHONE WHILE YOU STILL CAN.
Apparently, it has a CRIPPLING defect! One finger on the Vibrant encased with silicone (NOT a conductive material) will drop all 3G connectivity!
Why would you want to keep a phone that does this? Why do you still have a phone that behaves like this?
Especially since you proclaim it's not normal and not limited to just your Vibrant. "It's definitely a concern with this device"
I mean that myTouch 3G you barely have any access to doesn't display the same behavior!
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This locational stuff is driving me crazy. And it's the only complaint I really have about the device.
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You're not terribly bright, I suppose...
So, I have the phone, flat on a surface (say, a table). I hit "begin test" and off go the horses!
I lift the phone, with a single finger touching the 'hump', and the ping doubles, and data speeds are halved (if not worse).
Speeds aren't as amazing tonight, but it's just as well. Enjoy.
Flat on table. No finger.
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Flat on table. A single finger lifting phone by the hump.
Don't ask me why the date isn't correct. It puzzles me as well.
Tests were performed minutes ago, in the exact same conditions, in the exact same spot. The only difference is that I touched the device during the second test.
Either way, you're still an asshole, and I'm still right. Conductive materials or not: it works every time.
Shall I provide more evidence for His Majesty, the Asshole? Or are we satisfied? Let me know.
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You're not terribly bright, I suppose...
So, I have the phone, flat on a surface (say, a table). I hit "begin test" and off go the horses!
I lift the phone, with a single finger touching the 'hump', and the ping doubles, and data speeds are halved (if not worse).
Speeds aren't as amazing tonight, but it's just as well. Enjoy.
Flat on table. No finger.
Flat on table. A single finger lifting phone by the hump.
Don't ask me why the date isn't correct. It puzzles me as well.
Tests were performed minutes ago, in the exact same conditions, in the exact same spot. The only difference is that I touched the device during the second test.
Either way, you're still an asshole, and I'm still right. Conductive materials or not: it works every time.
Shall I provide more evidence for His Majesty, the Asshole? Or are we satisfied? Let me know.
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Not only is this completely UN replicable on MY Vibrant, where are the record breaking upload/ping results?
No ~3Mbps upload. No ~35MS ping. You're still on 3G in the second test, NOT on EDGE..
There are only a few things that could be happening here.
Your 3G signal is not as strong as you think it is(this is the case), I will bet you any amount of money that both of those tests we're performed on completely different towers, and I know you DON'T know which towers have HSPA+ and which don't. T-Mobile did not and has not upgraded each and every 3G tower to HSPA+. And last but not least, your phone is DEFECTIVE!
This antenna signal bar display problem just came up after the iPhone 4 fiasco LOL! I don't have any problem on mine. Keeps going strong! My iPhone 4 is collecting dust on my desk LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, we got lucky with this one, old chum! It usually drops below even that. You should see how much it degrades if it's held...*GASP*...in your palm! Oh my goodness! Such a concept! Holding a phone!
Like I said, but it bares repeating since you're hard of reading: speeds weren't stellar tonight. And hey, lookitthat! The date info is all whacky! Man, must be 'shopped! I can tell, because of the pixels!
Ping was a little higher than usual, and U/L wasn't as fast as it can be. Why? Don't know. Point still remains, and there's your proof of the problem. My old phone can't record video, but I can take a million photos for you, and make an animated .gif, just to be a ****.
I had this issue with the first Vibrant, and I have it with the second. Probably have it with the third.
Tell you what, though: I'll grab a third and report back. Maybe it is defective. Maybe there is a perfect Vibrant, like yours. But still, two 'defective' phones seems kind of unlikely. But we'll see! Oh, shall we ever see...
Cheers, old buddy.
P.S. I will drive to the actual tower and sit next to it, replicating this exact problem, if you'd like.
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Yeah, we got lucky with this one, old chum! It usually drops below even that. You should see how much it degrades if it's held...*GASP*...in your palm! Oh my goodness! Such a concept! Holding a phone!
Like I said, but it bares repeating since you're hard of reading: speeds weren't stellar tonight. And hey, lookitthat! The date info is all whacky! Man, must be 'shopped! I can tell, because of the pixels!
Ping was a little higher than usual, and U/L wasn't as fast as it can be. Why? Don't know. Point still remains, and there's your proof of the problem. My old phone can't record video, but I can take a million photos for you, and make an animated .gif, just to be a ****.
I had this issue with the first Vibrant, and I have it with the second. Probably have it with the third.
Tell you what, though: I'll grab a third and report back. Maybe it is defective. Maybe there is a perfect Vibrant, like yours. But still, two 'defective' phones seems kind of unlikely. But we'll see! Oh, shall we ever see...
Cheers, old buddy.
P.S. I will drive to the actual tower and sit next to it, replicating this exact problem, if you'd like.
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Your old phone can't record video? This is your first T-Mobile 3G phone and you've got no experience of your own prior?! Wow.. explains it all. You wouldn't be able to reproduce any speed drops next to a T-Mobile tower, no ma'am. Won't happen. There is no chance for the phone to switch to a neighboring cell site - without HSPA+ - to give you those non-HSPA+ speeds.
First of all you would have to verify that the tower is 3G is also upgraded to HSPA+ and then you would have to verify that it's the CID/tower for EVERY test. Your phone is switching between different towers. It's blantant
Do you just stay at home all day, writing "Stargate: Atlantis" fan fiction?
Aren't many in agreement by now?!
If your well covered in your area and live in a warm weather environment (outside much of the time, MAYbe you get consistant Real (not app speedtest) 3-4 M speeds.
In Chicago, I've calculated I can capitalize on real 4G speeds less than 30% of time.
With less than a 'strong' 4G signal, the real world data speeds are not significantly faster than Sprints 3g network: Evdo... the slowest of the major carriers.
Indoors, if your in a strong signal area, AND near the perimeter of the building only, 4G's good... worth turning on. How often is this the case?
I have 3 different sites I've tested download speeds for years, and in GENERAL, 4G averages in the same ballpark as Evdoh 50-60% of the time during the day.
I get a kick out of 4G warranting bounty $ on asop dev projects.
The Evo is a great HTC device, but it's not because of its flagship 4G feature.
rockky said:
Aren't many in agreement by now?!
If your well covered in your area and live in a warm weather environment (outside much of the time, MAYbe you get consistant Real (not app speedtest) 3-4 M speeds.
In Chicago, I've calculated I can capitalize on real 4G speeds less than 30% of time.
With less than a 'strong' 4G signal, the real world data speeds are not significantly faster than Sprints 3g network: Evdo... the slowest of the major carriers.
Indoors, if your in a strong signal area, AND near the perimeter of the building, 4G's good... worth turning on.
I have 3 different sites I've tested download speeds for years, and in GENERAL, 4G averages in the same ballpark as Evdoh 60% of the time during the day.
I get a kick out of 4G warranting bounty $ on asop dev projects.
The Evo is a great HTC device, but it's not because of its flagship 4G feature.
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shouldn't there be a /endrant at the end of this?
i'm sure posting in the general section would have made responses a tad better & more on topic
rockky said:
Aren't many in agreement by now?!
If your well covered in your area and live in a warm weather environment (outside much of the time, MAYbe you get consistant Real (not app speedtest) 3-4 M speeds.
In Chicago, I've calculated I can capitalize on real 4G speeds less than 30% of time.
With less than a 'strong' 4G signal, the real world data speeds are not significantly faster than Sprints 3g network: Evdo... the slowest of the major carriers.
Indoors, if your in a strong signal area, AND near the perimeter of the building, 4G's good... worth turning on.
I have 3 different sites I've tested download speeds for years, and in GENERAL, 4G averages in the same ballpark as Evdoh 60% of the time during the day.
I get a kick out of 4G warranting bounty $ on asop dev projects.
The Evo is a great HTC device, but it's not because of its flagship 4G feature.
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you have 512 posts on this site and still cant figure out where to put threads?
Yeah, posted here by accident.
If mod's would move really appreciate it!
Read the original post again but in pee wee herman's voice, and it's wayy better.
Fwiw.
well put...
Not sure what ur downloading but 4G at one bar is faster than 3G at full bars...good try tho
at least I can tell a huge diff...we just got it here an columbus and they have already upgraded the spectrum at least once since then which made a nice difference in coverage inside of buildings
you know its a big difference when people with droid x's and incredibles see the difference just by glancing over for a few minutes
Fail thread award of the day goes to:
Perhaps, but at least with a rationale.
rockky said:
Aren't many in agreement by now?!
If your well covered in your area and live in a warm weather environment (outside much of the time, MAYbe you get consistant Real (not app speedtest) 3-4 M speeds.
In Chicago, I've calculated I can capitalize on real 4G speeds less than 30% of time.
With less than a 'strong' 4G signal, the real world data speeds are not significantly faster than Sprints 3g network: Evdo... the slowest of the major carriers.
Indoors, if your in a strong signal area, AND near the perimeter of the building only, 4G's good... worth turning on. How often is this the case?
I have 3 different sites I've tested download speeds for years, and in GENERAL, 4G averages in the same ballpark as Evdoh 50-60% of the time during the day.
I get a kick out of 4G warranting bounty $ on asop dev projects.
The Evo is a great HTC device, but it's not because of its flagship 4G feature.
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I can honestly say that I agree with most of what you said. 4G is definitely just an added luxury to this phone. To be honest with you, out of the 6 months that I've owned this phone, I've probably used it a handful of times and have stuck with AOSP roms. I also agree that the EVO is just a great device in general and it definitely IS NOT the 4G that makes it special. In fact, if Sprint were to bring out a 3G superphone that didn't include 4G but was built by HTC with a cutting edge processor, I'd gladly trade in my EVO and its 4G in exchange for just a faster device. I was kinda hoping the EVO Shift would have been that phone. It is in some ways, it's the G2 in a Sprint body and is equipped with the potent Scorpion processor that can be OC'd to 2Ghz and that alone is reason enough to trade in. Add to that the phone will be cheaper than the EVO and there's your bargaining factor. If it didn't have 4G, I'd be ending my $10/month BS and have the greatest deal in Sprint's lineup! Oh well, I guess the extra $10/month is worth it just to get the nicer phones!
will this rom work on my rooted evo with hboot 2.02 and hardware 04 ? everything works ? no broken 4g ?
rockky said:
Aren't many in agreement by now?!
If your well covered in your area and live in a warm weather environment (outside much of the time, MAYbe you get consistant Real (not app speedtest) 3-4 M speeds.
In Chicago, I've calculated I can capitalize on real 4G speeds less than 30% of time.
With less than a 'strong' 4G signal, the real world data speeds are not significantly faster than Sprints 3g network: Evdo... the slowest of the major carriers.
Indoors, if your in a strong signal area, AND near the perimeter of the building only, 4G's good... worth turning on. How often is this the case?
I have 3 different sites I've tested download speeds for years, and in GENERAL, 4G averages in the same ballpark as Evdoh 50-60% of the time during the day.
I get a kick out of 4G warranting bounty $ on asop dev projects.
The Evo is a great HTC device, but it's not because of its flagship 4G feature.
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man my phone hasnt even seen 4g yet....hell im on wifi;s most of the time anyways....i might be on 3g on the road, but thats about it
so yes OP 4G does SUCKKKKK
Wishing that was the case here... with my Evo and other sprint 4G phone buds here.
Might be the larger urban environments.
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well put...
Not sure what ur downloading but 4G at one bar is faster than 3G at full bars..j.good try tho
at least I can tell a huge diff...we just got it here an columbus and they have already upgraded the spectrum at least once since then which made a nice difference in coverage inside of buildings
you know its a big difference when people with droid x's and incredibles see the difference just by glancing over for a few minutes
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freeza said:
Fail thread award of the day goes to:
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still hahaing
Obviously written by someone versed in Peewee Herman. Don't know much about him... seriously.. lol.
ogrenator said:
well put...
Not sure what ur downloading but 4G at one bar is faster than 3G at full bars...good try tho
at least I can tell a huge diff...we just got it here an columbus and they have already upgraded the spectrum at least once since then which made a nice difference in coverage inside of buildings
you know its a big difference when people with droid x's and incredibles see the difference just by glancing over for a few minutes
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decalex said:
Read the original post again but in pee wee herman's voice, and it's wayy better.
Fwiw.
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rockky said:
Aren't many in agreement by now?!
If your well covered in your area and live in a warm weather environment (outside much of the time, MAYbe you get consistant Real (not app speedtest) 3-4 M speeds.
In Chicago, I've calculated I can capitalize on real 4G speeds less than 30% of time.
With less than a 'strong' 4G signal, the real world data speeds are not significantly faster than Sprints 3g network: Evdo... the slowest of the major carriers.
Indoors, if your in a strong signal area, AND near the perimeter of the building only, 4G's good... worth turning on. How often is this the case?
I have 3 different sites I've tested download speeds for years, and in GENERAL, 4G averages in the same ballpark as Evdoh 50-60% of the time during the day.
I get a kick out of 4G warranting bounty $ on asop dev projects.
The Evo is a great HTC device, but it's not because of its flagship 4G feature.
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Nice try, AT&T.
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Wishing that was the case here... with my Evo and other sprint 4G phone buds here.
Might be the larger urban environments.
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Could very well be the high frequency coupled with the urban enviroment, could be lack of backhaul, excessive users on the network or really any number of things. I don't have 4G at home but did get to try it in TX and it was blazing fast compared to 3G for me. Amarillo is flat doesn't have any high rises and is much less densely populated than Chicago in the OP's defense.
Sprint 4G might be incredibly overhyped and overrated to you. Not to me.
Here in Boston I get 8-10 mbps consistently. I recently went to nyc on business and stayed at a hotel. The WiFi they offered sucked, so I turned 4G on and tethered. The result?
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I don't know about you, but I certainly wouldn't call 10+mbps with 85ms ping "incredibly overhyped overated"
They see me trollin'
rockky said:
Aren't many in agreement by now?!
If your well covered in your area and live in a warm weather environment (outside much of the time, MAYbe you get consistant Real (not app speedtest) 3-4 M speeds.
In Chicago, I've calculated I can capitalize on real 4G speeds less than 30% of time.
With less than a 'strong' 4G signal, the real world data speeds are not significantly faster than Sprints 3g network: Evdo... the slowest of the major carriers.
Indoors, if your in a strong signal area, AND near the perimeter of the building only, 4G's good... worth turning on. How often is this the case?
I have 3 different sites I've tested download speeds for years, and in GENERAL, 4G averages in the same ballpark as Evdoh 50-60% of the time during the day.
I get a kick out of 4G warranting bounty $ on asop dev projects.
The Evo is a great HTC device, but it's not because of its flagship 4G feature.
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You're probably just in a bad area. I average out 4-7mbps at work, 4-9mbps at home, and bursts of 10.2mbps. Hence my signature lol is an average at my home. This seems like a rant to ***** about poor 4G speeds in your area, perhaps a battery pull? I hear that helps.
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Sprint 4G might be incredibly overhyped and overrated to you. Not to me.
Here in Boston I get 8-10 mbps consistently. I recently went to nyc on business and stayed at a hotel. The WiFi they offered sucked, so I turned 4G on and tethered. The result?
I don't know about you, but I certainly wouldn't call 10+mbps with 85ms ping "incredibly overhyped overated"
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Has anyone googled true 4g ? There's a few interesting articles on our so called sprint 4g speeds. I personally didn't notice the difference between 4g and aosp.http://androidandme.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/4gtestdaychart.png just sayin
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the OnePlus 6's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
Signal strength is excellent. I am on TMobile.
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Signal strength is excellent. I am on TMobile.
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That's nice to hear. The one downside of my Essential PH-1 on T-Mobile is that I can't get a signal anywhere, or that it is choppy, even when I'm standing in the center of a major US city.
Though I hear that is a complaint across the board with the PH-1, not just T-Mobile. Leads me to think that it is not picking up one of the bands that T-Mobile broadcasts.
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That's nice to hear. The one downside of my Essential PH-1 on T-Mobile is that I can't get a signal anywhere, or that it is choppy, even when I'm standing in the center of a major US city.
Though I hear that is a complaint across the board with the PH-1, not just T-Mobile. Leads me to think that it is not picking up one of the bands that T-Mobile broadcasts.
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No, it's just got poor antenna design that blocks a lot of the signal. I have an essential and can already tell you OP6 is drastically better, signal wise than the PH-1. And I'm also on Tmobile.
just wondering, what is the max Speed-test achieved? on my oneplus5 i achived about 190Mbps on 4G+
care share screens?
Speeds are okay I guess, downloading offline maps went fast at least
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Unfortunately, I had to rate a 2. I'm getting about 1/3 bars where my OP3 would get full bars. Speed is slow, while I haven't done an actual test yet, it took something like 5 minutes for a 1.53MB download.
EDIT: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/3947531527
EDIT 2: Noticed it doesn't say on that page, but that was LTE.
i am positively overwhelmed by the signal strenght here. LTE and 3G on T-Mobile as well as WiFi are exceptional. Coming from a S8, this is a huge step forwards. I barely had any significant improvements when changing between 3G and LTE with the S8, now downloading stuff with the OP6 in the same area is fast as hell
Signal is excellent here, LTE speed tests over 100mbps and I can even pull off 40-50mbps with 1-2 bars LTE in outlying areas.
This phone has the absolute best receiving and bluetooth antennas I've ever had in any phone by a mile. I can get a GPS lock inside in under a second nowhere near a window. 5GHz wifi works great about 150 feet away from my house even with tons of EM pollution in the area. I get 50-75% LTE signal where I used to only get one bar of non-working HSPA on other phones.
In my house, the back area in my sun room where my PC is I get the weakest reception (assuming from he Monitor and other equipment) on my OP5 at around 8mbps down. My OP6 is getting 20mbps down. In the living room at the front of my house I get the best signal and fastest speeds. My OP5 would get anywhere from 40-65mbps down speeds. I tested the OP6 in the same area and the 2 tests I did 2 days apart were 135mbps down and 128mbps down (same time I got 135 my OP5 got only 48mbps down).
I rarely use WiFi at home since I'm on T-Mobile with unlimited data. but my reception is certainly improved thanks to the 4x4 MIMO. And no I'm not in an area that has activated the 600mHz band 71.
Forgot my speed test screenshot.
Orito said:
Unfortunately, I had to rate a 2. I'm getting about 1/3 bars where my OP3 would get full bars. Speed is slow, while I haven't done an actual test yet, it took something like 5 minutes for a 1.53MB download.
EDIT: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/3947531527
EDIT 2: Noticed it doesn't say on that page, but that was LTE.
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I had that same issue with my OP5 and I had to make a new APN and play around with it based on settings I found online. The APN is maybe your issue. after a couple of OS updates I didn't have to worry about the APN's anymore, they were good with the new updates.
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Signal is excellent here, LTE speed tests over 100mbps and I can even pull off 40-50mbps with 1-2 bars LTE in outlying areas.
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Yep, with e 4x4 MIMO and the glass back (so much for why the hell is there a glass back and no wireless charging) the signal strength is amazing.
Here is a PC Mag article shedding some light on the cellular capabilities of the OnePlus 6: https://www.pcmag.com/news/361428/testing-shows-oneplus-6-has-top-notch-radio
Check out this photo I took comparing the OP6, Sony Xperia XZ S, and the Essential.
Note that the OnePlus doesn't have a Sim Card in it yet (it was still in the Essential) in the first pic
In the second pic it was being compared against a 1st-Gen Sony Xperia Z and the XZ S from the earlier pic.
Looks like the dbm is the same between the Essential and the OP6, but as any user of the Essential knows, that changes very fast.
I seem to be struggling a lot on ATT. My pixel 2 didn't have this problem.
tranemonk said:
I seem to be struggling a lot on ATT. My pixel 2 didn't have this problem.
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Struggling as in how? Signal seems to be very good for other users in this thread. Maybe you have faulty unit?
milan03 said:
Here is a PC Mag article shedding some light on the cellular capabilities of the OnePlus 6:
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The article is a great start and a quick overview of it. The cellular capabilities of this phone are the SOLE reason I've purchased it, they are extremely impressive. It doesn't appear to have the LAA capabilities to reach the 1.2 Gbps theoretical peak but I don't even know where that's implemented (think I saw a report of in NY somewhere).
Looking through the fcc filing, one of the more interesting documents covers the carrier aggregation capabilities (the pcmag article doesn't cover these well or correctly?).
I'm hoping to get B2+B4+B12 as I used my old OP3 to verify these three bands were present at home.
I'd share the link but per a new xda account I can't..... somehow I've gone from when the galaxy nexus was released to now without creating an actual xda account? Lol....ultra lurker.
From the fcc document:
"Support following CA Bandwidth, and follow 3GPP V14.3.0
2DL CA:
B2C,B3C,B7C,B66B,B66C,B38C,B39C, B41C,
B2+B2,B3+B3,B4+B4,B7+B7,B66+B66,B41+B41,
B1+B3,B1+B5,B1+B7,B1+B18,B1+B19,B1+B20,B1+B26,B1+B32,B1+B41,
B2+B4,B2+B5,B2+B7,B2+B12,B2+B29,B2+B30,B2+B66,B2+B71,
B3+B5,B3+B7,B3+B8,B3+B19,B3+B20,B3+B26,B3+B28,B3+32,B3+B38, B3+B41,
B4+B5,B4+B7,B4+B12,B4+B17,B4+B29,B4+B30,B4+B71,B5+B30,B5+B66,
B7+B8,B7+B12,B7+B20,B7+B28,B7+B32,B12+B30,B12+B66,B20+B32,B20+B38,
B25+B26,B29+B30,B66+B71,B39+B41
3DL CA:
B41D,B66A+B66C,B41A+B41C,
B1+B3C,B1+B3+B5,B1+B3+B7,B1+B3+B19,B1+B3+B20,B1+B3+B26,B1+B3+B28,
B1+B3+B41,B1+B7+B8,B1+B7+20,B1+B20+B32,B1+B41C,
B2+B2+B4,B2+B2+B12,B2+B2+B66,B2+B2+B71,B2+B4+B4,B2+B4+B5,B2+B4+B7,
B2+B4+B12,B2+B4+B29,B2+B4+B71,B2+B5+B30,B2+B5+B66,B2+B7+B7,B2+B12+B30,
B2+B12+B66,B2+B66C,B2+B66+B71,
B3C+B5,B3+B3+B7,B3C+B7,B3+B3+B8,B3C+B20,B3C+B32, B3+B7C,
B3+B7+B7,B3+B7+B8,B3+B7+B20,B3+B7+B28,B3+B7+B32,B3+B7+38,B3+B20+B32,
B3+B20+B38,
B4+B4+B5,B4+B4+B7,B4+B4+B12,B4+B4+B71,B4+B5+B30,B4+B7+B7,B4+B7+B12,
B4+B12+B30,B4+B29+B30,B5+B30+B66,B5+B66+B66,B5+B66C,B7+B20+B32,
B7+B20+B38,B12+B30+B66,B12+B66+B66,B12+B66C,B20+B38C,B66+B66+B71,
B66C+B71,B39C+B41,B39+B41C,
4DL CA:
B1+B3+B7+B20,B1+B7+B20+B32,B1+B3C+B7,B2+B2+B5+B30,B2+B2+B12+B30,
B2+B2+B12+B66,B2+B2+B66+B66,B2+B2+B66C,B2+B4+B7+B7,B2+B5+B30+B66,
B2+B5+B66+B66,B2+B12+B30+B66,B2+B12+B66+B66,B2+B12+B66C,B3C+B7C,
B3+B7+B20+B32,B3+B7+B20+B38,B5+B30+B66+B66
UL CA:
B3C,B7C,B39C, B41C/ UL 64QAM(B41/B7)/DL 256QAM"
effmsee said:
The article is a great start and a quick overview of it. The cellular capabilities of this phone are the SOLE reason I've purchased it, they are extremely impressive. It doesn't appear to have the LAA capabilities to reach the 1.2 Gbps theoretical peak but I don't even know where that's implemented (think I saw a report of in NY somewhere).
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There is a Cat 15 (8-stream, 800Mbps) limitation when the North American SIM is inserted. Still that should be more than enough for most of the existing deployments.
milan03 said:
There is a Cat 15 (8-stream, 800Mbps) limitation when the North American SIM is inserted. Still that should be more than enough for most of the existing deployments.
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Aw darn, I missed that. Where did you find that information?
(yes, as you say more than enough for most deployments lol, still darn)