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Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!
Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
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I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!
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can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
giopirolli said:
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
giopirolli said:
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time
giopirolli said:
hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
giopirolli said:
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
Double post pls discard
babyshaq said:
Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....
TartanArmy said:
I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?
iPhone 3g contract was up and started looking for a new handset, 3Gs? meh.
perhaps if apple had some sexy stuff to say at their conference about a fw update, but no
just some waffle about an iPad or something? lol
so 3 days into my 14 day return time with the HD2 it was locking up, freezing and genraly sluggish.
i guess i was just used to the iphone 'just working' alough saying that, it was jailbroken and 'trying' to act like a normal phone.
yer yer i had all the apps i wanted (via appsync) and boy was the iphone 3g struggleing.
anyways here i am with the hd2, locking up. so i found my way back to an old friend THIS FORUM.
amazed to find that my hd2 had a rom number way below what was out there.
aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
tried to flash a htc stock updated rom and it failed
then discovered the HSPL crack, and tried the flash again, YES! it worked this time.
now, humm i dunno. the phone looks the same but feels different, sure all the O2 branding is gone and some features are unlocked but it now feels much better to use.
faster, smoother and more slick.
got tomtom on there and MYplayer watching bbciplayer OVER 3G not locked to wifi use like the iphone.
this things got me interested now i think ill keep it
qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
Arthur said:
qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
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No-one can answer that question yet. All we can do is summise, and most would say yes.
There hasn't been an official release of the WM7 requirements yet, so we can't be 100% sure. There's been a pinksheet, which is a rumoured requirements list, and the HD2 is fine for that (albeit the minimum ROM, not the recommended).
We'll really have to wait and see. The official specs for WM7 can't be that far away.
Arthur said:
iPhone 3g contract was up and started looking for a new handset, 3Gs? meh.
perhaps if apple had some sexy stuff to say at their conference about a fw update, but no
just some waffle about an iPad or something? lol
so 3 days into my 14 day return time with the HD2 it was locking up, freezing and genraly sluggish.
i guess i was just used to the iphone 'just working' alough saying that, it was jailbroken and 'trying' to act like a normal phone.
yer yer i had all the apps i wanted (via appsync) and boy was the iphone 3g struggleing.
anyways here i am with the hd2, locking up. so i found my way back to an old friend THIS FORUM.
amazed to find that my hd2 had a rom number way below what was out there.
aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
tried to flash a htc stock updated rom and it failed
then discovered the HSPL crack, and tried the flash again, YES! it worked this time.
now, humm i dunno. the phone looks the same but feels different, sure all the O2 branding is gone and some features are unlocked but it now feels much better to use.
faster, smoother and more slick.
got tomtom on there and MYplayer watching bbciplayer OVER 3G not locked to wifi use like the iphone.
this things got me interested now i think ill keep it
qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
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I'm the same as you, I had the iphone 3G, and was due an upgrade, but the 3Gs didn't really offer anything new so went fo the HD2. I've had it for a few weeks now, and had a lot of issues, or should I say glitches. Some have just been me not used to a windows phone, and some have been glitches with the phone. However, most of those have now been rectified thanks to the fantastic help on this website, and especially Wacky Banana on the PM's (Many thanks). I am now starting to enjoy the phone, and can see it's fantastic potential. Despite the lack of apps (which I do miss from time to time), I am now starting to think this phone is better than the iphone, and IF WM7 becomes available it will be a very exciting prospect.
Whilst on the topic of WM7, I emailed HTC directly and they assured me that WM7 will be available on the HD2, and will be a free 'upgrade'. They did say not to expect it until the end of the year at the earliest though. Despite this, I have still been informed my some on this forum that WM7 for the HD2 won't happen. So I guess it's a case of wait and see.
Arthur said:
aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
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Could you let me have the link where you downloaded the stock O2 rom i cant find it.
snerkler said:
...Despite the lack of apps (which I do miss from time to time)...
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Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.
+1 You wont find emulators like Morphgear on the Marketplace but at least you can install great apps without having to jailbreak etc
Im surprised your O2 HD2 freezes? The only reason Im still on the stock O2 rom (although I might give 1.66 a go) is because I've not had any major issues with it.
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Yes. The same way you installed custom ROM of 6.5.5 (6.6) there will be WM7 ROM on XDA most definitely.
The same way my old Trinity P3600 runs WM 6.5.3 it will be possible to run WM7 on HD2.
I was on the stock o2 rom, and no major issues except for SMS not sending on the second day, and sometimes it would fail to update the weather. Everything is that bit slicker on the newest ROM.
I heard o2 don't bother with firmware updates, I'm not going to wait for nothing so I flashed successfully straight away.
Jim Coleman said:
Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.
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Yeah I do, and have found some good ones. I just miss certain apps like ebay app, yell.com app (I know you can go onto these via the internet but the app just made it easier), but one that I miss the most is Sky+ app where I can remotely record on my sky+ box at home. I can do this via text, but is costs money, doing it from the iphone app was free.
It's no big issue, and I am starting to prefer my HD2 to my iphone, just wish you could have the best of both worlds
jimbouk said:
Could you let me have the link where you downloaded the stock O2 rom i cant find it.
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Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
a bit weird considering that the OP (Arthur) has been a member in this forum for 7 years,
romac said:
Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
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beat me to it.
OK heres the big problem i have now....
every now n then i goto my phone and 'slide to unlock'
it asks for my pin, i input said pin but it says its wrong? i know its not.
again SLOWLY, it says 'wrong pin' or words to that effect. NOOOOO
only way out of it is to do a cold boot. (remove the batt)
granted i only tried rom Le2_UK_1.43.206.4 for about 2 days, but never had this happen
untill now im on 1.66?
REALY flustering.
on the few times its happed ive noticed theres a sms or missed call whateing.
perhaps this is triggering the pin error?
ill let you know if it happens without a missed call or sms, but the 5 times its happened
in the last 18 hours its allways been the same.
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a bit weird considering that the OP (Arthur) has been a member in this forum for 7 years,
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whats weird?
i had an xda2 ohh about 7 years back. lol
sky mobile is available for HD2 with remote record. Go to Skys site and download it. Its working fine for me.
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Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
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Many Thanks
The 1.66 fixed afew things and seems a bit quicker but hasnt made the earpiece speaker any better still crackles alot, so i think i'll send it back and try another, 4th time lucky.
Jim Coleman said:
Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.
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I like you
snerkler said:
Yeah I do, and have found some good ones. I just miss certain apps like ebay app, yell.com app (I know you can go onto these via the internet but the app just made it easier), but one that I miss the most is Sky+ app where I can remotely record on my sky+ box at home. I can do this via text, but is costs money, doing it from the iphone app was free.
It's no big issue, and I am starting to prefer my HD2 to my iphone, just wish you could have the best of both worlds
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most of these "apps" can easily be made by you to run on your HD2
MS have even given you the facility to do it with 6.5..
widgets, often overlooked, and not perfect, you can turn some net pages in "apps" just like the iphmoan makes you get from the nappystore.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd721906.aspx
but this is more powerful as you can do them yourself..
It's something sorely lacking lately on here, the "DIY" ethics we used to have, but there's other guides..
Maybe we should have a competition for some new widgets..
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sky mobile is available for HD2 with remote record. Go to Skys site and download it. Its working fine for me.
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Really, I couldn't find it. I must be losing the plot lol
Is it free to use?
I was in the same boat as the OP. My phone had 1.43 and was 15 mins away from being returned when I decided to give 1.61 (and now 1.66) a go. The later ROMS are without a doubt the ones that the HD2s should have been launched with.
While they're still not 100% perfect, they're infinitely better, smoother and more stable than the 1.43 operator branded ROMs.
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Really, I couldn't find it. I must be losing the plot lol
Is it free to use?
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Yes it is. And it works perfectly.
Okay guys, upon the receipt of my new HD2 and before I load anything on (contact and data wise).. what should I be doing first in terms of sensible updates and flashing to make it sing sweet.. I already have SPB Shell (3.5.3) from before on my Touch HD days.. but before I load that, what is a good practise to follow.. cheers.
Hard-SPL and flash a custom ROM.
EFMax said:
Okay guys, upon the receipt of my new HD2 and before I load anything on (contact and data wise).. what should I be doing first in terms of sensible updates and flashing to make it sing sweet.. I already have SPB Shell (3.5.3) from before on my Touch HD days.. but before I load that, what is a good practise to follow.. cheers.
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Play with it as it is for a few days before you do anything. You'll know what you want by the end of that time.
yep playing will be fun but as I found when I had the touch HD, there were so many ROMs out there and everyone saying something for and against their version.
My needs are simple as beside the phone bits, contacts, emails and sms will be my thing so I want them all to work without any pains.. moving from WM 6.1 to 6.5 I am looking forward to as the old phone had to be rebooted daily to keep it from taking sick leave..
EFMax said:
Okay guys, upon the receipt of my new HD2 and before I load anything on (contact and data wise).. what should I be doing first in terms of sensible updates and flashing to make it sing sweet.. I already have SPB Shell (3.5.3) from before on my Touch HD days.. but before I load that, what is a good practise to follow.. cheers.
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. As suggested, play with it then decide what you want to do, one mans meat is another mans poison, so you may not need to do anything.
johncmolyneux said:
Play with it as it is for a few days before you do anything. You'll know what you want by the end of that time.
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Exactly,,, dont try to fix anything you dont know. Play, install apps have fun with it , and if you find any problems and issues den only install custom rom to ur needs. Till then have a nice time with ur HD2.
Plus, playing with it for a couple of days first will let you make sure you have a good one, and not one that needs returning.
I have a HTC HD2 TMOUS and i have nothin but problems i already did task29 and may 23 energy i did everything correct and it still freezes sometimes it does not even go past the tmobile stick together screen this effin sucks big time wtf is going on???
Should rename the title to "My POS HD2".
Not all HD2's are unstable like yours.
I, task29, install t-mobile radio 2.10.50.26, install energy 23569 cht and the phone is insanely stable and very fast, faster than 2.13 rom.
glcK23 said:
Should rename the title to "My POS HD2".
Not all HD2's are unstable like yours.
I, task29, install t-mobile radio 2.10.50.26, install energy 23569 cht and the phone is insanely stable and very fast, faster than 2.13 rom.
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Yea I do that to and it still freezes and shuts off sometimes it never works
well can i have ur htc hd 2?
Atxdrift said:
Yea I do that to and it still freezes and shuts off sometimes it never works
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Have you tried using a different ROM? I have tried Energy ROM and it froze up on me a couple of times. I then switched to Elegancia 8.5 and I couldn't be happier with performance and stability, as well as eye candy. Only times it gives me trouble is when I do something stupid or install a CAB file and it doesn't like the ROM. The ROM itself is great, at least for me. I recommend you shop around and see what happens.
tazz9690 said:
Have you tried using a different ROM? I have tried Energy ROM and it froze up on me a couple of times. I then switched to Elegancia 8.5 and I couldn't be happier with performance and stability, as well as eye candy. Only times it gives me trouble is when I do something stupid or install a CAB file and it doesn't like the ROM. The ROM itself is great, at least for me. I recommend you shop around and see what happens.
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Yes I tried a diff. Energy ROM and it still gave me the same problem I didnt like Elegancia that much too much eye candy...lol...idk whats up with this phone it gives me problems the most when I flash the ROM then like after 3 days is when it will start to work a lil better. When I first flashed the ROM it had the problems but not as bad. But then later it got worse.
Atxdrift said:
Yea I do that to and it still freezes and shuts off sometimes it never works
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if its that bad you should be getting a replacement. There are two sets of hd2 problems (based on what people have been posting since i started reading in jan)
those who have a few rom basede glitches, like jittery keyboard, sleep of death, etc. which can be solved by flashing, or tweaks etc, and those whose phone, whilst showing similar effects to the first set, are far worse, and dont respond to tweaking.
If its a new phone, and its as bad as you say, dont fanny about with flashing and what not, get it replaced and start fresh.
samsamuel said:
if its that bad you should be getting a replacement. There are two sets of hd2 problems (based on what people have been posting since i started reading in jan)
those who have a few rom basede glitches, like jittery keyboard, sleep of death, etc. which can be solved by flashing, or tweaks etc, and those whose phone, whilst showing similar effects to the first set, are far worse, and dont respond to tweaking.
If its a new phone, and its as bad as you say, dont fanny about with flashing and what not, get it replaced and start fresh.
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Ill try that....before i started doin the flashes it wasnt this bad...when i had the stock ROM it ran better then what it does now...My wifes HD2 runs good with the Energy ROM but mine doesnt so idk what it could....any other fixes i should try before i send off....could it be the radio im using???
Could be check the radio versions between yours and hers.
Wil Badger said:
Could be check the radio versions between yours and hers.
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Both of us are using the 2.10
Hey drift. I gotta go with sam's thoughts here and say that if it were me experiencing what you are, I'd probably be taking it right down to the store and getting a replacement. Just remember to get everything stock again first. Push if you have to, to make sure you get a new one and not a refurb.
One more question, before you punt it back...have you tried running it without the SD card in it at all? I'm not confident the issue is there, but since nothing else seems to be working, if you could try it and see if there's any change that would be awesome.
p.s. I think RDR will be my next ps3 purchase
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Hey drift. I gotta go with sam's thoughts here and say that if it were me experiencing what you are, I'd probably be taking it right down to the store and getting a replacement. Just remember to get everything stock again first. Push if you have to, to make sure you get a new one and not a refurb.
One more question, before you punt it back...have you tried running it without the SD card in it at all? I'm not confident the issue is there, but since nothing else seems to be working, if you could try it and see if there's any change that would be awesome.
p.s. I think RDR will be my next ps3 purchase
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Ill try that but why do u think it would be the sd card???
Atxdrift said:
Ill try that but why do u think it would be the sd card???
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Well I don't know that the problem will be there, but I've seen in a few examples where taking the card out actually clears up wonky behavior of various types. I just thought it was worth a try before returning it, and I wanted to just add your results to my collective troubleshooting experience on this phone.
There's a few card-releated thinks that can cause your phone to misbehave (bad card, etc), and this is just the best way to make sure we eliminate anything having to do with it. Hate to have you replace a whole phone if all it needs is a new card. But, like I said, there's still a pretty low chance it'll help
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Well I don't know that the problem will be there, but I've seen in a few examples where taking the card out actually clears up wonky behavior of various types. I just thought it was worth a try before returning it, and I wanted to just add your results to my collective troubleshooting experience on this phone.
There's a few card-releated thinks that can cause your phone to misbehave (bad card, etc), and this is just the best way to make sure we eliminate anything having to do with it. Hate to have you replace a whole phone if all it needs is a new card. But, like I said, there's still a pretty low chance it'll help
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I was having similar issue on my stock ROM and could not get it past the boot screen. I took my SD card out (sometimes had to do that to my wing) and it let it boot. As soon as it was booted I did a factory reset and it was good. This was when I first got the phone and was putting all kinds of weird stuff before I actually began doing a little research. Hahaha. But yeah new T-Mobile ROM and Cookies and running like a champ!
At this point I doubt there are refurbs floating around. Too new. Isn't there something you can dial in to show you whether it's a refurb or not from your phone key pad?# something or other?
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Well I don't know that the problem will be there, but I've seen in a few examples where taking the card out actually clears up wonky behavior of various types. I just thought it was worth a try before returning it, and I wanted to just add your results to my collective troubleshooting experience on this phone.
There's a few card-releated thinks that can cause your phone to misbehave (bad card, etc), and this is just the best way to make sure we eliminate anything having to do with it. Hate to have you replace a whole phone if all it needs is a new card. But, like I said, there's still a pretty low chance it'll help
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Well ive tried every step I could to try and fix it nothin work so maybe its bad hardware im sending it back and there send me a new hd2 so will see as soon as the new one gets here how good that one works.
Refurbs are indeed around, but mostly only coming from T-Mobile Customer Care as warranty replacements for phones in need of exchange that are beyond their initial remorse period... Definitely confirmed on this one.
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At this point I doubt there are refurbs floating around. Too new. Isn't there something you can dial in to show you whether it's a refurb or not from your phone key pad?# something or other?
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I have been a user of Windows for long lomg time and have loved it when I had the liberty to flash clean cooked ROMS onto my device. Rarely, I stuck to Stock ROM's or over bloated ones no matter how stable!
Will we ever see the light of day when the streak will get to see some cooked ROM's which are not bloated with added apps?
I got my Streak bout a fortnight ago - so far tested and mostly fixed on downloaded apps - but really pissed as I still have crap on my streak which I do not use - why do we need to live with this?
Am now looking to dump the 2.1 - but sceptical as I nee many bricks flying around for units purchased online direct from Dell....
I really hope to see some cook - take the initiative and start cooking some clean workable ROM's
I am sure it will not be long before you have your wish, Paul over at Modaco is the main Cook at the moment nip over he has a custom ROM
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I have been a user of Windows for long lomg time and have loved it when I had the liberty to flash clean cooked ROMS onto my device. Rarely, I stuck to Stock ROM's or over bloated ones no matter how stable!
Will we ever see the light of day when the streak will get to see some cooked ROM's which are not bloated with added apps?
I got my Streak bout a fortnight ago - so far tested and mostly fixed on downloaded apps - but really pissed as I still have crap on my streak which I do not use - why do we need to live with this?
Am now looking to dump the 2.1 - but sceptical as I nee many bricks flying around for units purchased online direct from Dell....
I really hope to see some cook - take the initiative and start cooking some clean workable ROM's
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I have no idea what you're talking about. What 'bloated' ROMs?
Why don't you just open the update.zip, remove all the crap you don't need, resign it, done. Or, just uninstall the apps you don't want? It's not exactly hard to do.
You also sound incredibly ungrateful, these devs put A LOT of hard work into these ROMs and you just complain about a few apps they've included? If you don't like it, why don't YOU start making ROMs. This thread is essentially just pure laziness on your part.
Wow. "why do we need to live with this?" It's not essential to life, It's a ROM. grow up.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. What 'bloated' ROMs?
Why don't you just open the update.zip, remove all the crap you don't need, resign it, done. Or, just uninstall the apps you don't want? It's not exactly hard to do.
You also sound incredibly ungrateful, these devs put A LOT of hard work into these ROMs and you just complain about a few apps they've included? If you don't like it, why don't YOU start making ROMs. This thread is essentially just pure laziness on your part.
Wow. "why do we need to live with this?" It's not essential to life, It's a ROM. grow up.
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Chill out Meltus.
Am not sitting here to start another debate on disrespecting Chef's - never had that intention anyway if you had read my post with a clear mind! - I have been a user of custom cooked ROM's since the days of XDA IIs and never had a reply of such.
My title read - 'Moved from windows' - which implied that I am new to Android and still experimenting - infact I am still on my stock ROM on my dell online purchased unit and was only lookign for a way to uninstall Touchdown etc to save on space in memory.
Thanks for the tip on changing update.zip - now I have a solution which I can look into!
I said we dont need to live with this and it was not pointed to any Chef - it was pointed to Dell - who have installed all crap on the unit (which I am trying to remove) and being in a forum - you will have to appreciate - we all have the right to ask questions - some may be good and some naive!
So mine was naive - and thanks for your answers.
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I said we dont need to live with this and it was not pointed to any Chef - it was pointed to Dell - who have installed all crap on the unit (which I am trying to remove)
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Ah, I apologise, I thought you were referring to ROM developers, sorry
Anyway, if you want to open the zip, remove stuff, and then sign it again, you'll need the signing tool - http://androidforums.com/developer-101/8665-how-signing-roms.html
Sorry again, i guess i just completely mis-read your post ><
Cool! am already opening up and playing around! if I have a brick in my hands - I'll jump out of the 3rd floor window and you'll have to carry me to the hospital
ps: I weigh 120Kgs!!!!!
devdarshan said:
Cool! am already opening up and playing around! if I have a brick in my hands - I'll jump out of the 3rd floor window and you'll have to carry me to the hospital
ps: I weigh 120Kgs!!!!!
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Haha, i think it's almost impossible to brick the streak at the moment, you can always just fastboot flash the stock recovery image then flash the stock update.pkg from Dell!
I'm a weak f***er so that's out of the question
I too have come from WM and have been using it since it came out in '98. One thing I miss is the ability to view and tweak the registry. Like on the HD2 just change
'Go to HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P2\ EncodeFormat' to '2147483647' and you have loads of additional video recording formats!
You can also remove ROM apps by using Root Explorer (need rooted phone obviously) and removing the offending /apk files from /system/apps and then clearing the Dalvik-cache and rebooting.
I just flashed the 2.1 ROM on my AT&T/US Streak and got rid of Touchdown and Amazon MP3. No more icons I don't use, nor widgets to scroll through.
here's a good guide to it:
http://www.market4android.com/how-to-remove-stock-android-apps.php
Good luck.
Be careful about removing ROM apps, ive done this a few times and then i got endless process error....eeeek :S
vinokirk said:
Be careful about removing ROM apps, ive done this a few times and then i got endless process error....eeeek :S
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Good to know. I was wondering if it was so easy, why would everyone care about what apps are installed if you can just zap em if you don't want them. Well thankfully I developed no ill effects from my deletions, and I removed those I really didn't want.
I'm not enough of a linux/Android gear head to know better. I'm a pretty good Windows gear head, but never knew Linux well which is too bad with all the cool Androids coming along in the handheld space. Oh well, learning new tricks is good too i suppose...
thanks