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Hi,
If you haven't visited http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1 yet, then do so now... it has been updated with indepth walkthrough of the device!!!
Now i'm gettting excited.
notice how they dont mention anything about what operating system it uses whilst the girl is talking!
vinokirk said:
notice how they dont mention anything about what operating system it uses whilst the girl is talking!
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Yeah.. but then they don't mention a lot of things! So no biggie.
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Yeah.. but then they don't mention a lot of things! So no biggie.
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Very well done. Nothing really new but presented in an interested way.
As a commercial I think is great for the general public, they will be very impressed. That's good because we need to create a great and large Xperia commnunity.
Hmm... couldn't find anything on which frequencies are supported. I was hoping for some sort of confirmation on whether or not 1700MHz is still supported.
Well were coming up to to the month milestone of when Tom dropped the news of having WP7 running on his HD2.
I know I will get flamed for this, but I am niave and a part of me still despite no real proof being given, is hoping.
It would be great if we got some news/proof at the end of this month.
Seg
da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
please people, let it go....nobody was gonna get wp7 on the hd2 before the news and so there is no difference if it was all a lie...
that said, i do belive in it, reputable people have said its true. just enjoy the damn device and when wp7 comes, it will come, and i would like to see a thread with all the non belivers apologising
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg
Seg2009 said:
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg
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Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
Cheers
chris5932 said:
Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
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I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
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Seg2009 said:
I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg
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I do feel the same way, totaly
It's in a way like christmas when I was young besides.. you knew when it would be
// I btw don't think this is leading us anywhere..
But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
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da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
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I think you have mis-interpreted my use of the the word "Expected" by this I meant "Hoped" or "Thought"
I do agree with you though, they don't owe us anything, and after the slagging off that some guys gave them, I would say F off to everyone.
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ah ok, well yeh one can hope for it, thats all good! even i hope for it! well actually i dunno, when they said wp6 and wm6.5 isnt interchangeable made me decide not to go with wp7. but still, id love to see it! but even if they lied (which i keep stressing i dont think they are!), i wouldnt think less of them, none of us are really gettin affected and we have got alot from them anyway with wm6.5
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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yeah I asked him last week in a podcast he visited on ppcgeeks...said a lot including a test rom for tg01 which also makes a lot of sense. I've said on htcpedia that I wouldn't be surprised the devices we see in the fall are very similar to devices released LAST year with minor improvements in hardware (if that)
If the htc touch hd2 and the g01 were the true test devices that wp7 was based on, then as a developer I'd just go hey why do I need to make a new device? Use the old internals and I have a wp7 device. I think for early devices that's what is going to happen but again that's just my speculation on htc and toshiba. Dell et al probably have devices built from the ground up...
I mean I want to try wp7 too and its looking better and more fluid every single day that gives me hope that microsoft has made a better "coded" os that when unlocked will actually be more open than the devices we have right now. To get to that point will take time, but that's what xda is for. I mean zune hd is hacked, I expect wp7 to be hacked too. just depends on time and devices
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hoping this conversation remains civil because so far no flames no claims of it was publicity and I said on htcpedia again why does a site like that need publicity it averages in US daytime 250 members per hour! late night 125! a site like that doesn't need real advertising.
We can't say its an april fool either that's come and gone. so the only other logical outcome is that it exists there are some issues (lo and behold tom said there were graphics issues)
so I am waiting enjoying wp 6.5
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
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Seg2009 said:
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
Seg
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
Cheers
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I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg
Seg2009 said:
I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg
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I don't think your the only one who did so, myb hes still working down the list
Tom is the guy this is about.. no information from him or his team -> no information at all.. thats what is seems to be like
Since I don't know anyone to talk to him or one of his team members close, we can only wait and any disscusion is senseless.
Cheers
I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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Im with you 100% on that statement. I feel like M$ is turning into Apple.
I don't understand why you are talking like this actually..
Sure, WP7 is locked down OS with many disadvantages, I agree with that!
BUT it brings lots of new features and its going to have full flash support etc.
it's not all bad.. basically this whole thing is not part of this discussion!
This is about WP7 on hd2 which was claimed to be real by tom.
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Apart from the HD2 WP7 exists/doesn't exist...
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I don't get why there isn't any news from tom_codon or any other people and why they aren't releasing it..
Sincerely, I'm not understanding why tom_codon gave the news of WP7 on HD2.
I mean... okay, WP7 HD2 ROM does exist, noone apart tom_codon and some other people has got it, but why are you saying to all that it does exist if you can't/don't want to release it?
It's not so mature and smart in a community where all is shared and that lives on the ROM sharing to say "I've got WP7! But you won't get it! Hah!!"........ am I wrong?
Do you think it'll happen? There has been rumors floating around about it.
Doubt it.
Where are the rumours from? here?
Damn the title got me excited. Well I sure hope so because I was planning on ordering a nexus one in 41 days when i'm 22 months into my t-mobile contract. Could you please link us to a news article that talks about this. Thanks
I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.
Id sell this and buy a new one.
Android Touch said:
I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.
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Well I went searching on google and I didn't see anything close to what this title suggests. I'm refering to rumors too. Oh well =(
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There has been rumors floating around about it.
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No there haven't.
well... technically he just started one
I don't know if the newer batch of Nexus One will have this new feature/digitizer technology, but endgadget did mentioned that HTC droid incredible does uses this new technology.
that would blow
"People wildly speculating on these forms" != "There has been rumors floating around about it"
Haven't seen a single word about this aside from this thread.
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that would blow
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Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.
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Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."
Actually, judging by how fast google goes through versions and software (look at Chrome browser, already at 4.0 or 5.0), google is probably already testing Nexus Two. That thing'll probably have new screen.
They got a contract with current screen manufacturer, I bet they won't worry about switching now.
Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....
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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.
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Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....
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Lmao.
For some reason I believe this a stupid question. The bashing and returns that would occur after this change, and the complaints and people maybe even wanting their money back would be so gradual it would cause a bad costly uproar.
People would form small not needed hate groups, make *****y blog post about how Google somehow "scamed" customers, Google's name would be flamed harshly by people who want attention. I could just imagine this happening..
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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.
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ya, it would blow if they implemented this "new technology" on a phone thats already out.
kinda like what they did with the myTouch. they add a 3.5mm jack?? thats lame because all the people who own the phone previous to this launch now want that phone but cant get it because they just bought the other version like two months earlier (and just in case you take this literally I'M GENERALIZING)
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Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."
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i agree with you...
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Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.
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jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I'm saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.
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jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.
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I wish I could give you a cup of Froyo to calm you down. ;-)
I completely agree though. Some people talk out of their butt sometimes.
hello, new here.
got the fone when it first came out didnt think much of it.
after a few months now i find myself in love with this great piece of technology.
after slamming a 55lbs car hood on it afterwords revealing no damage what so ever, i realized this fone may be the perfect fone for.
now with all its fully customizations at hand i feel deeply satisfied.
anyways, kool fone just need to work on the huge monthly bill.
'Tis a fine barn, but sure 'tis no pool, English.
jimbonics said:
'Tis a fine barn, but sure 'tis no pool, English.
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lol what jimbo here is trying to say, is that it'll polish your boots just fine, but it won't cut your hair worth a darn
I love my hd2. It's good to see another Coloradan on Xda.
I frankly am getting sick of all the HD2 bashing on the tech mag sites. Most of what they write seems to be laden down with hearsay and hyperbole. I find myself actually registering with certain sites simply to comment back about how the HD2 really is an amazing phone as long as one learns how to use Sense and WM 6.5.
But now T-Mobile has moved on to the Galaxy as their "flagship phone". Guess they were too nervous to put their chips in with a WinMo 6.5 phone...whateva!
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I frankly am getting sick of all the HD2 bashing on the tech mag sites. Most of what they write seems to be laden down with hearsay and hyperbole. I find myself actually registering with certain sites simply to comment back about how the HD2 really is an amazing phone as long as one learns how to use Sense and WM 6.5.
But now T-Mobile has moved on to the Galaxy as their "flagship phone". Guess they were too nervous to put their chips in with a WinMo 6.5 phone...whateva!
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Like I always say, "There's huge difference between those who know how to use a computer, and those who know only how to use the programs on a computer."
ElaineD said:
Like I always say, "There's huge difference between those who know how to use a computer, and those who know only how to use the programs on a computer."
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Amen!! I hope you don't mind if I steal that quote
I just moved form Denver! Shout out! To everyone out there! Whoot! Anyway...people are idiots...they want everything dumbed down..."what does your phone do...nothing just run apps...well I can run two different programs at the same time now." Hahaha
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I frankly am getting sick of all the HD2 bashing on the tech mag sites. Most of what they write seems to be laden down with hearsay and hyperbole. I find myself actually registering with certain sites simply to comment back about how the HD2 really is an amazing phone as long as one learns how to use Sense and WM 6.5.
But now T-Mobile has moved on to the Galaxy as their "flagship phone". Guess they were too nervous to put their chips in with a WinMo 6.5 phone...whateva!
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well you have to remember, the phone is kinda old in the rest of the world.
we got it here so late that many other newer and better phones have been designed for the market it seems.
but regardless i'd rather have this fone than the other new stuff out.
most of it just seems...idk, i guess faceless?
if that makes sense.
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Amen!! I hope you don't mind if I steal that quote
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Enjoy! sirpunkey
I have come to the conclusion that the reason some users are having problems with their phones is this.....
ITS YOUR OWN FAULT!
Leave the phone the way Samsung intended it and 90% of you wont have problems
Dont get me wrong i was one of these people.....Got the phone...was really happy with it and then i started to work my magic lol! New launcher here, different widget there and so on and so on.
Ended up with terrible battery life and then with a phone that got so hot it shut itself down!
Since that time i have reset the phone and kept it completly standard...what a difference...battery last 2 days again and the phone is fast and cool!
So, moral of the story...leave it alone and just enjoy the phone as it is....if you dont you only have yourself to blaim
so endith the lesson
You just made today's most stupid post...
I agree with you 99%
The other 1% of me wants you to join Apple's walled garden
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You just made today's most stupid post...
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DocRambone said:
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I speak the truth..you just dont want to admit it!
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Disagree. I think OP made sense - people sometimes mess up their phones. It is a toy for most of us, or a hobby, or an addiction
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I agree with you 99%
The other 1% of me wants you to join Apple's walled garden
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You only have to look at the number of problems post about
Its not the phone 90% of the time but the user!
Dont get me wrong im all for changing my phone to the way i want it etc but all it ever does is bugger the thing up!
If the phone is left as it comes out of the shop then the chance of problem is far reduced.
This phone has been refined so far that in standard form there very little wrong with it. Problems arise when we start messing with it to much.
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I speak the truth..you just dont want to admit it!
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Another noob that thinks he knows the best...
kreoXDA said:
Disagree. I think OP made sense - people sometimes mess up their phones. It is a toy for most of us, or a hobby, or an addiction
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Some people just dont want to accept thats the case.
If you want to get a phone and tinker around with it adding here and taking away there then fine...just dont then come on here complaining about the phone and making it look bad...its a great phone....if you leave it alone lol!
Sometimes I wish I could reach into the Internet and strangle people. This is one such occasion.
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Another noob that thinks he knows the best...
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I was thinking the same!
Just my opinion though if you dont like it then fine but the point of forums like this is people have there say...
what makes you think you know best?
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I was thinking the same!
Just my opinion though if you dont like it then fine but the point of forums like this is people have there say...
what makes you think you know best?
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I know that every phone has bugs... even the sgs 2...
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Sometimes I wish I could reach into the Internet and strangle people. This is one such occasion.
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Based upon what?
you disagree?
if so why...if its the phone thats at fault all the time then why bother with one?
You think the user is never the cause of problems with the phone? Is that because we are all technical geniuses?
do not fight guys.
most phones have bugs.
if you give the user too much freedom, the user will abuse it, tarnish the brand, and you will pick up the bill (Jobs' very successful business model)
and yeah, Doc is a power to be reckoned with
can we all be friends please
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I know that every phone has bugs... even the sgs 2...
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I agree and i never said it was perfect
but this phone is so much better than many and all the niggles are getting sorted the more android and samsung develops.
The point i was making is that the majority of problems on here are not because of some minor bug...more likely down to user error or the result of other apps etc that have been added.
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I agree and i never said it was perfect
but this phone is so much better than many and all the niggles are getting sorted the more android and samsung develops.
The point i was making is that the majority of problems on here are not because of some minor bug...more likely down to user error or the result of other apps etc that have been added.
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Can you show me this "majority of problems" caused by the users?
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do not fight guys.
most phones have bugs.
if you give the user too much freedom, the user will abuse it, tarnish the brand, and you will pick up the bill (Jobs' very successful business model)
and yeah, Doc is a power to be reckoned with
can we all be friends please
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Like i said its just my opinion...
Im sure Doc is very good at what he does and i have never questioned that...dont think we were debating that unless he thought i set down the gaunlet and was looking for a fight lol!
not the case
You're making a sweeping generalisation based on absolutely zero evidence. The worst kind of troll.
Are the Orange FC problems caused by user error? No - KE2 firmware is bugged. Is the appearance and activation of Wifi sharing user error? No, its a bug. Is the unexplained battery drain and high Android OS use user error? No.
This thread contributes absolutely nothing. It only serves to aggravate those of us with issues that we're trying to resolve. Is it a great phone? Yes. But right now it had issues. You become an early adopter, you accept that. And you try to make the product better.
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Can you show me this "majority of problems" caused by the users?
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dont want to be on here all night but lets look at the obvious...Battery life
Numerous complaints about that
im no expert and dont profess to be but from my own experience when i had lots of widgets, different launcher etc installed my phone struggled to last the day. Since my reset to standard as of now the phone is still on 78% and thats after being unplugged since 8am.
Hang on (door slams). I'll just go and buy an iPhone.
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