Titanium vs Nandroid - Hero CDMA General

A little confused here and not that knowledgeable.
Switched my SD cards from a class 2 to a class 6.
I have the paid version of Titanium backup.
Here is what I did:
1. Complete (apps+data) Titanium backup
2. Nandroid + ext backup
3. Copied to computer hd
4. partitioned new card
5. Nandroid restore
(Note: Neither one backed up my photos/vids/music that I can find) But I did copy them to the hd and restored them so no biggie.
So.. should I do a complete Titanium restore now?
The reason I am asking this: All of my apps seemed to be working fine, however, I am not seeing any of the apps on my sd card as I did previously.
Thanks.

edit: just realized you were using apps2sd, so yeah i think you'll have to partition new card and put the image on your new card, then do a nandroid restore, no need for TI.

brentmel said:
TI just backs up your application apks and associated settings stored in the phones data folder (root required). Nandroid makes an image of your phones internal rom. Anything on your sd card can be backed up with copy and paste on any computer.
There is no need to use TI or nandroid for swapping an sd card, only changing roms. You can swap your sd card out while your phone is running, nothing vital is stored there.
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It is if you are using apps2sd... which I didn't put in the original post.
Sorry.

Danokan said:
It is if you are using apps2sd... which I didn't put in the original post.
Sorry.
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lol yeah I got it, after I actually read everything

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Getting Pictures back after App2SD nanroid Part to ext

Good evening.
I made a nanroid backup under the assumption that it backed up everything. (including files on SD) is this a correct to assume?
After parting the sd card for App2sd I discovered my photos were gone. I went to run recovery and recovered but no picture files...
Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated. It wiped out all my other backups that were stored on SD.
dailypush said:
Good evening.
I made a nanroid backup under the assumption that it backed up everything. (including files on SD) is this a correct to assume?
After parting the sd card for App2sd I discovered my photos were gone. I went to run recovery and recovered but no picture files...
Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated. It wiped out all my other backups that were stored on SD.
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Its not good to assume. Lesson learned.... Partitioning, not parting, will erase EVERYthing on what you are partitioning. Sorry bro, they are gone. Im not sure if a partition will overwrite the old data, or just delete the record of it. If it's the latter of the two i would get that SD card into a disk utility program asap. Every time something new is written to the card though the less likely you are to get any of the data back.
So now you know...
1. nandroid only backs up the phone itself.
2. you should backup your sd card to your computer
3. dont assume
and last but not least...
4. if you have never done anything like this, make sure you read ALL the steps first...
Oh boy. Yes those are gone. Nandroid only backs up the phone image to the sd card, not the phone image + the sd card itself. Formatting erases everything like he said. Assumptions are always good to make.
It was parting
No...it was partitioning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning

best way to change sd cards

I have a 4gb sd card with partitions on it that I want to move over to my new 16gb card. how do I move all data over? I can see the fat partition when I mount it but what about the ext partition with all my apps? I have Alps installed via app2sd.
go download titanium backup off the market then backup apps pull all your files on the new card after you partition it then restore all apps
blaboy51 said:
go download titanium backup off the market then backup apps pull all your files on the new card after you partition it then restore all apps
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how much is that program?
ChillRays said:
how much is that program?
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free but you can donate to the developer after you download it
blaboy51 said:
free but you can donate to the developer after you download it
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Thanks, i'll keep that in mind.
blaboy51 said:
go download titanium backup off the market then backup apps pull all your files on the new card after you partition it then restore all apps
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Ok, I don't quite understand the above.
go download titanium backup off the market = Download Titanium Backup from the Market app on your phone.
backup apps = using Titanium, select 'Backup/Restore' at top, then using the Menu softkey select "Batch" then push the RUN button for 'Backup all user apps + system data". I'm not sure if this is the correct batch job to run... Then push 'Select All' then "Run the batch operation". This will take a moment or two to finish.
"pull all your files on the new card after you paritition it" - this is where I get lost. I have no idea what this means. There's several steps missing here:
- how do you partition it? What file system is used? How many partitions?
- how do you pull (put?) all the files on the new card? It's nonsensical.
- at what point do you copy all the files off the old card onto your PC?
"restore all apps" - I assume you use a batch job in Titanium Backup to do this?
douginoz said:
Ok, I don't quite understand the above.
go download titanium backup off the market = Download Titanium Backup from the Market app on your phone.
backup apps = using Titanium, select 'Backup/Restore' at top, then using the Menu softkey select "Batch" then push the RUN button for 'Backup all user apps + system data". I'm not sure if this is the correct batch job to run... Then push 'Select All' then "Run the batch operation". This will take a moment or two to finish.
"pull all your files on the new card after you paritition it" - this is where I get lost. I have no idea what this means. There's several steps missing here:
- how do you partition it? What file system is used? How many partitions?
- how do you pull (put?) all the files on the new card? It's nonsensical.
- at what point do you copy all the files off the old card onto your PC?
"restore all apps" - I assume you use a batch job in Titanium Backup to do this?
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you partition your sd card in your custom recovery image you should have if your phone is rooted, set up your partition ext 2 3 or 4 however much you want then the rest fat32 after that put your old card in your computer copy all the files onto your computer then put your new card in then copy all the files over to the new card put your sd card back in the phone then start up batch restore all apps and settings all done not that hard really if you dont know how to partition your sd card i dont know how you rooted your phone
Run on sentences gives me headache -_-
Heres how I did mine yesteday, went from stock 4gb to adata 16gb c6;
- Went into Ra recovery and did a nandroid + ext backup
- Toggled ms-usb, copied everything from my card to my computer
- Turned off my n1 then inserted my new card
- Went back into recovery, formated my new card with ext partition
- Enabled ms-usb again and copied everything to the new card
- Disabled ms-usb and then did the nandroid restore which also restores your ext partition
titanium backup rocks. thank you for whomever suggested it!

[Q] Restoring from titanium backup

Do i need to install titanium backup to external sd card so i cab restore the backup on internal sd card of GT? I am asking because if i flash the device and the tit. backup is on the internal sd card everything will be deleted including tit backup app so from where i can restore my backup?
No need. You just install titanium on the phone and do the backup. You can then move the entire directory to your external sd card. When you flash, you just install it again and then restore your backup.
/Feras - Galaxy Tab
sorry which directory to move you are talking about?
No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.
norm2002 thanks, you know without changing the directory (before reading your post) i backed up everything and then flashed with JMI, flashed perfectly and then installed Titanium back and when i tried to restore i see no files to restore it was 0 written. I was assuming TB uploads all data to it's server but now No Voila for me. But now you taught me how to backup. Will press thanks for your help.
norm2002 said:
No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.
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That was very helpfull. Had the same problem wenn i flashed the Roto-rom. Thought i was covered with Titanium. But the flash deleted mij internal-sd. Now all is on the external and i am very pleased..
i've always run how norm2002 describes it. hasn't failed me yet.
oh men, no offence, but this forum is becoming a rubbish container...
times ago I remember this forum as one where there were only advanced users posting their finds and where the newbies could read and learn about...
but now every new(to android and not only!) user is opening 3d here and there so the usefull 3d are going to finish bottom page or even in the other pages and finding what you need is becoming just as searching a needle in the rick.
so please USE THE SEARCH BUTTON and some nous before posting such things...for the "well being" of the XDA comunity...
thanks and I repeat : NO OFFENCE INTENDED!
how could somebody pretend to mod his cell/tab without even reading the settings in the apps he uses?
.....to posterity the arduous sentence!
norm2002 said:
No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.
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Thanks, I'll make the change too.
If you want to be sure, you could always copy the titanium backup folder from the tab to your PC(USB), and copy it back after formatting/flashing a rom.
Nice tip norm2002! I can't count the times I have deleted my precious backups when I repartitioned!
Thank you all, you guys are very informative.
YoMarK said:
If you want to be sure, you could always copy the titanium backup folder from the tab to your PC(USB), and copy it back after formatting/flashing a rom.
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The more places you can have backup files saved, the safer you are. With TB it's wise to have the backup files stored on:
- External SD card
- PC
- Dropbox
This way, regardless of what happens, you have your backup files safe and can set up your Tablet (or a new one if your old Tablet gets lost/stolen) easily.
Ok guys thanks for all the answers
The dropbox option is very cool!

[Q] Best way to move from SD based CM7 to emmc CM7 without loosing apps or data.

What is the best way to move from a SD based CM7 to a emmc CM7 and not loose any apps or data? I've been running off the SD card for several weeks and am ready to move to the flash based setup but don't want to loose any data or apps. I may also want to be able to dual boot into the Nook 1.2. Currently running CM7 41, OC Kernel 04/04/11, and dualboot menu all off the SD card.
Thanks,
jmak
+1. Little help?
Thanks!
titanium backup your apps/data, then install fresh copy on emmc, then restore all
I thought about doing the reverse, emmc to sd but that thought went away after a few minutes
NewZJ said:
titanium backup your apps/data, then install fresh copy on emmc, then restore all
I thought about doing the reverse, emmc to sd but that thought went away after a few minutes
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How do you use titanium backup to do the restore since the backup is stored on the original SD card that was used to boot CM7? Do you have to copy the backup files to another card to do the restore?
jmak10 said:
How do you use titanium backup to do the restore since the backup is stored on the original SD card that was used to boot CM7? Do you have to copy the backup files to another card to do the restore?
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yes,
-do the backup,
-copy the sdcard/TitaniumBackup folder to your computer (via adb/cifs-wifi/dropbox/ESFileExplorer/whatever)
-install your prefered ROM
-copy to sdcard/TitaniumBackup from your computer's copy
-batch restore (i'd buy titanium pro if you have many apps, if not, it will ask to confirm restoring one by one)

[Q] Halp! Deleted external SD card?

First of all... I wanted to start this post off by saying yes, I know I'm an idiot.
Now that that's out of the way....
A few weeks ago, I got so excited to flash a custom ROM, that somehow when I ran TWRP and backed up my system to the external SD card, I also wiped my external SD card. Because I'm an idiot. I don't know how or why it happened really. I just know it did.
I had previously saved EVERYTHING to my external SD card, thinking that was the safest place for the data... and now the past two years of my life documented in photographs are gone.
I have tweaked out on running custom phone software since the days of the original Razr and flashing Alltel firmware on it... and this is the first major screw up I've ever done.
Now... does TWRP back up that data somewhere, somehow? Or is it just system data/apps that get backed up? If TWRP didn't save it somewhere, is there possibly somewhere that the contents of my external SD card were MOVED upon installation of the custom ROM?
ircphoenix said:
A few weeks ago, I got so excited to flash a custom ROM, that somehow when I ran TWRP and backed up my system to the external SD card, I also wiped my external SD card.
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You should never store your sole backup copy on the same device as is being backed up as you probably realize now.
Anyway, it's not clear from your post if you were storing a redundant copy of your backup on your external SD card or if you had configured TWRP to use your external SD card as the primary folder and therefore sole backup copy. The default location is usually /data/media/0/TWRP. Try a search for TWRP folders using a root aware file browser. With any luck you will find a backup on your internal SD card.
If not, then the only way to recover would be to try a data recovery program on your external SD card. Unless you do Google /cloud backups as well?
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Recuva does most of the work well, and there is an option to restore the directory structure too if you poke around in the settings. Puran File Recovery works where Recuva did not in recovering some images and videos.
Both I have tried after an accidental format of the SD card from the phone settings.
They are both free desktop software.
Important to take not not to copy any files over to the affected card, or even your recovered files as well. Only do so when you are sure you have recovered all that you can onto a desktop folder.
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fffft said:
Anyway, it's not clear from your post if you were storing a redundant copy of your backup on your external SD card or if you had configured TWRP to use your external SD card as the primary folder and therefore sole backup copy.
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The second scenario is what I believe I did. And I think when it created the backup, it wiped the external SD to suit it's needs. Problem being that the Nandroid backup wanted 6 gigs ish of space, and I had 4.5 or so remaining on the internal SD.... don't know what stuff I had on there... but *shrug*
Markuzy said:
Recuva does most of the work well, and there is an option to restore the directory structure too if you poke around in the settings. Puran File Recovery works where Recuva did not in recovering some images and videos.
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Thank you for the tip. I will try both of these. I think the nandroid backup wrote over the areas on the SD where the pictures were stored. You'd think it would pick the empty space before the occupied space... but I guess since it wiped it clean prior to backing up, it was ALL empty space. *sigh*
Thank you both very much for your help.

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