jus wondering if the great EVO has its own GRAPHICS card for 3d gameing cuz i couldnt find any specs on it.if anyone knows that'll b nice.
The snapdragon has an integrated gpu.
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
hmmm..... that doesnt imply to the 3d gameing graphics card.its jus the fast processor which i already have on my hd2 with 1ghz snapdragon processer.the DROID has its own seperate 3D games graphics card so i was wondering if the EVO has anything like that.
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hmmm..... that doesnt imply to the 3d gameing graphics card.
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Yes, it does answer your question. It would help if you had some idea what you were really asking about.
This is a "GRAPHICS CARD" next to the HTC EVO. Bear in mind that these are actual size.
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That will not fit inside your phone, which is why it doesn't have one. What it does have is an integrated GPU like Sebrina said, a smaller chip inside the Snapdragon that specializes in 3D graphics. The Droid also has an integrated GPU, not its "own separate graphics card." I have no idea where that rumor started or why it's still being repeated. People say words without knowing what they mean, I guess. It is true, however, that the GPU found in the Droid's chip performs a bit better than the one found in the Snapdragon. And now you know.
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Yes, it does answer your question. It would help if you had some idea what you were really asking about.
This is a "GRAPHICS CARD" next to the HTC EVO. Bear in mind that these are actual size.
That will not fit inside your phone, which is why it doesn't have one. What it does have is an integrated GPU like Sebrina said, a smaller chip inside the Snapdragon that specializes in 3D graphics. The Droid also has an integrated GPU, not its "own separate graphics card." I have no idea where that rumor started or why it's still being repeated. People say words without knowing what they mean, I guess. It is true, however, that the GPU found in the Droid's chip performs a bit better than the one found in the Snapdragon. And now you know.
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thanx for clearing that up but i just want a phone with a smoothe 3d graphics specially when it comes to games.i have the wm hd2 which is horrible on the games compare to the games and the graphics on the iphone 3g and 3gs which comes with very large sized game files.im jus hoping the EVO has a good GPU.THANX
I think the question is how well does Android play games (in general) and what quality/quantity are and will be available. Some games play well on the HD2, but, from my understanding (I'm a HD2 owner who doesn't game) it's only a few that really shine in Winmo 6.5(x).
same thing can be said for android, there's only a handful that I would consider to be "graphic intensive"
They're coming though, just takes times... my magic 8 ball says 6 months to a year from now we should see some really nice games start to pop up
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same thing can be said for android, there's only a handful that I would consider to be "graphic intensive"
They're coming though, just takes times... my magic 8 ball says 6 months to a year from now we should see some really nice games start to pop up
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Go, go magic 8-ball for pre-order date.
-shakes and rubs his magic 8-ball-
-An answer floats to the surface, but is difficult to read-
-After struggling for a few minutes, mrono reads the message-
-Outlook not so good-
If you want games get an iPhone, it's that simple.
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If you want games get an iPhone, it's that simple.
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had an iphone 3g but dont want to go back to it.sticking with HTC thank u.
Fadakar said:
If you want games get an iPhone, it's that simple.
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Actually if you want games, get an xbox360, even an iphone cant compare to that type of gaming experiance.
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If you want games get an iPhone, it's that simple.
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ya if you want games just get an iphone. its that easy. and then get a psp, and a nintendo ds. and a ps3 with a portable screen, i mean its that easy. just duct tape it all onto your body and then you will be a super mobile gaming master. its that easy. you dont even need to carry a good phone.................
lol at how stupid you guys can be, don't look so far into it. He wanted a phone that plays game, name a phone that plays games better than the iPhone, not to mention the abundance of them.
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lol at how stupid you guys can be, don't look so far into it. He wanted a phone that plays game, name a phone that plays games better than the iPhone, not to mention the abundance of them.
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well thank u sir,jus wanted to know any device that plays or supports cool 3d games compare to the iphone,as simple as that but some people jus wasting their time posting stupid non-sense comments instead of answering my question.thank u
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well thank u sir,jus wanted to know any device that plays or supports cool 3d games compare to the iphone,as simple as that but some people jus wasting their time posting stupid non-sense comments instead of answering my question.thank u
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The second post in this thread answered your question.
Graphics capabilities.
Since this kinda applies to the topic of this thread. I'm curious how much better this snapdragon processor will handle (in theory) the graphic intensive activities so many of us want like games and high quality video playback without lag compared to say the Iphone or in my instance a old Touch Pro.
Since I remember hearing HTC skimped on the video driver support with Qualcom chip in the touch Pro giving us some slide show video on certain file types like FLV files. I personally am curious if this graphics solution on this phone is going to give me that buttery smooth experience I think we all hope and dream for from this phone?
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Since this kinda applies to the topic of this thread. I'm curious how much better this snapdragon processor will handle (in theory) the graphic intensive activities so many of us want like games and high quality video playback without lag compared to say the Iphone or in my instance a old Touch Pro.
Since I remember hearing HTC skimped on the video driver support with Qualcom chip in the touch Pro giving us some slide show video on certain file types like FLV files. I personally am curious if this graphics solution on this phone is going to give me that buttery smooth experience I think we all hope and dream for from this phone?
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I beg your pardon: Theories are not facts, nor do theories reflect actuality in any form. The facts are clear: I do not particularly like the iphone, but it has nothing to do with how well they function. They are well known to be the best gaming phone due to the deep support of the for profit developing community. Free is good, but not as good as good.
Finally, OP, do some research. It's not rocket science and I think that's what has a few people ruffled....it would have been so much easier to have figured it out on your own than withstand the ridicule you've received and at least in part, deserved, in this thread.
My apologies, my theory had nothing to do with you or your like or dislike of anything. I was just wanting community opinion of this new processor. I am interested in processing capability not wither or not the games are good. But wither or not the hardware has the ability and drivers are capable. Also I am most curious if the drivers will support the various video and audio codecs to make this a true multimedia phone unlike the touch pro I currently have.
You seem like a really nice person and I apologize for coming off as not so much so. I don't think you can do much better than an iphone.....there I said it and I have tears in my eyes for saying so. I just don't like how Apple locks the application availability (although there are tons and good quality) and user interface.
I almost feel like an idiot for not just sucking it up and getting one.....Nah, I am an idiot!
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Hello..
While im in Youtube i see the videos of the IPhone apps .. and i c how fun it is by just taping the screen ..
and here's what i thought .. IPhone apps is really simple its just the idea .. which makes me wonder why its not on the "Diamond" .. it cant be done ??
Here's some examples :
iAno
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this app contain graphic photo of a piano buttons when u press it, it plays a tone .. is it hard to do it?!
you will tell me the diamond is not a multitouch screen.. its ok we dont want to play two tones at once .. we will tap every single button and play its tone..
just for fun it doesnt have to be the same as the diamond .. we only put what the Diamond can play or run ..
iGuitar
video:http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=w40P3q3PIu8
iGuitar is a simple app as same as iAno .. just tap on the string and play .. we dont want to hold a string and play a different tone in the same string like a real guitar .. its enough i think with 6 strings and play with them .. for fun and shows ..
iDrummer
video:http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=coiaPu371AA&feature=related
dont have to say much about it .. its the same .. only its very simple .. touch and play .. no need to multitouch..
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and so on with many apps with the same subject .. please comment and tell me your opinions about what i wrote .. and explain to us whats can be done .. and what cant be done .. and why ..
waiting for this thread to explain everything...
if it's so simple, do it yourself.
there are plenty of apps similar to these outhere, and the reason they are not really developed for WM devices anymore compared to the iPhone is due to the vast amount of marketing the iPhone has.
htc sell for 1 million
iphone sell for 100million.
this is the different
if it's so simple, do it yourself.
there are plenty of apps similar to these outhere, and the reason they are not really developed for WM devices anymore compared to the iPhone is due to the vast amount of marketing the iPhone has.
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i would do it if i know how to do it.. i post this thread to get more info about what does the creative ppl think of it .. i just wanna know how do they think and creat and all of these things .. and i wanna know what is the nature of this work .. it comes step by step doesnt it ? so im a student here asking teachers..
there are plenty of apps similar to these outhere
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do u mean for diamond ?? cuz i didnt c any !
and thX for the answer but i dont c this as a reason to not devlope any good apps for the diamond.. waiting to know what others think
You want iphone apps? simple get an iphone. Job done!
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htc sell for 1 million
iphone sell for 100million.
this is the different
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hello conmeo thx for answer,,
your answer is same as Addicteddddd i really dont understant in commerce and business but does normal developers have to stop making these apps too ?? if someone knows how to develope can he develope as himself ?? i can answer yes for this cuz we are in the biggest developers forum site .. so these apps r really hard to be done ? or what can we know about it ...
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You want iphone apps? simple get an iphone. Job done!
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here here.
i second that.
but .... they do look nice.
i bought a touch pro, after having an spv m500, spv M700.
and after al this years the apps stil look the same (graphics)
but you don`t here me crying over it.
if you want iphone apps, get an iphone.
so please stop crying over the iphone apps.
no i do not hate an iphone, but i didn`t get the fuzz and the hype that followed over it.
and i certanly didn`t like the hype creating policy they applied.
meaning, the store`s had plenty in stock, but were only alowed to sell 3 or 5 iphones a day, for a few weeks.
in other words, creating a hype.
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i didnt say i want the iphone apps but they also look great ..so im asking CAN IT BE DONE ON DIAMOND OR NOT .. cuz it looks like an easy apps compared to all of these apps in this great forum ..
cant some1 give me a straight answer ??
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i didnt say i want the iphone apps but they also look great ..so im asking CAN IT BE DONE ON DIAMOND OR NOT .. cuz it looks like an easy apps compared to all of these apps in this great forum ..
cant some1 give me a straight answer ??
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Just look at the hardware specs, of course it could be done but what we are saying is the market for such gimmicks is not wm it is apple. I got my phone for it's gps, it's vga screen it's gpu and cpu, not for a load of useless gimmick software that has no practical value. Basically anyone who wants to make such software has a much bigger commercial market with the iphone. I have seen maybe 1 or 2 adds for the diamond in magazines and that is it. The iphone is a nice object I'll admit but it is driven purely by the $ and not by a community of geeky nerds who love to tinker (myself excluded of course), software given to thousands or bought by millions. It is just fodder for the masses!
My last words on the subject, I'm sick and tired of this kind of crap thread, I recommend that no one else bother to post here, it has all been said a thousand times.
Out with the bores!
Oh give badrey a break! Some of you people are so deluded, it's hysterical. The iphone has some amazing apps and some of the key things it has that most the Diamond apps don't are style, sheer usability and a real sense of fun. Seriously, the Diamond apps can sometimes feel clunky and overly practical, however useful and well constructed they may be.
The saddest thing about all this bitterness towards the iphone and people who dare to mention the name is that there seem to be more and more posts/apps concerning Iphone themes, icons and slide to answer apps than ever before. So you all can't hate the iphone has much as you profess - stop with this childish pretense, it's sad!
Don't get me wrong, I love my Diamond, but I wish some of the extremely talented developers on here would raise the bar by utilising the Diamond's excellent screen and GPU for some good old fashioned colour filled fun. If it means using other successful phones as inspiration, so be it.
Whilst i'm getting things off my chest, to those of you with naked/ bikini clad girl wallpapers - nothing yells 'i'm a strange nerdy virgin' louder to people, especially women! Trust me, my gf heavily agrees and has often laughed at some of themes i've shown her on here, so sort it out. LOL!
Anyway, please take my post with a pinch of salt gentlemen.
S.
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Oh give badrey a break!
Anyway, please take my post with a pinch of salt gentlemen.
S.
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Hear, Here......! Well said Old Chap.....
I think Badrey's inititial question was quite inocent and he was looking for a "gentle" debate - not an on-slaught..... lol
I'm a Die Hard win-mob user and will probably still be in many years to come... I still have that stock of Beta-Max video's too ready for when the market picks up... but.....
The iPhone does have some amazing "toys" in its app collection...... I want some of those too!
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I want them too. why don't we have a poll to see just how many people agree
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I want them too. why don't we have a poll to see just how many people agree
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i want them too
simcarloc said:
Oh give badrey a break! Some of you people are so deluded, it's hysterical. The iphone has some amazing apps and some of the key things it has that most the Diamond apps don't are style, sheer usability and a real sense of fun. Seriously, the Diamond apps can sometimes feel clunky and overly practical, however useful and well constructed they may be.
The saddest thing about all this bitterness towards the iphone and people who dare to mention the name is that there seem to be more and more posts/apps concerning Iphone themes, icons and slide to answer apps than ever before. So you all can't hate the iphone has much as you profess - stop with this childish pretense, it's sad!
Don't get me wrong, I love my Diamond, but I wish some of the extremely talented developers on here would raise the bar by utilising the Diamond's excellent screen and GPU for some good old fashioned colour filled fun. If it means using other successful phones as inspiration, so be it.
Whilst i'm getting things off my chest, to those of you with naked/ bikini clad girl wallpapers - nothing yells 'i'm a strange nerdy virgin' louder to people, especially women! Trust me, my gf heavily agrees and has often laughed at some of themes i've shown her on here, so sort it out. LOL!
Anyway, please take my post with a pinch of salt gentlemen.
S.
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Oh, you are reading my mind, are you? Exactly what I been thinking! How do you do it?.... Scary!
people develope to get some money
with diamond you cant get much money when you develope something.
only few develope do for fun. like some in here. but this is all.
1 develope for diamond = 1million develope for iphone.
you can see the different. money
your question is very childish
Yes but i think you'll find that most Windows mobile phones that get released from now on will have the same G-sensor + touchscrenn technology so the apps/games wont just be for the Diamond they will be for all ppc.So how many people would be buying apps/games then.
If you catch my drift.
Keep in mind that while the diamond was only released 3 months ago, the iPhone has been out and played around with for almost 2 years. Most of those iPhone Apps started out as apps for the Jailbroken iPhone. Windows Mobile 7 is going to be the great equalizer.
Draiko said:
Keep in mind that while the diamond was only released 3 months ago, the iPhone has been out and played around with for almost 2 years. Most of those iPhone Apps started out as apps for the Jailbroken iPhone. Windows Mobile 7 is going to be the great equalizer.
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You said it man.
The Diamond is very new compared to the fruitphone.
PPCiano
This is supposed to be our equivalent of the iPhone's iAno application:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392268
I think one of our issues is the lack of muti-touch, so such applications are impossible. (please don't tell me about a multi-touch keypad, I know - but it's not 'true' multi-touch, just divided into two separate capacitive sensing sections.)
The main issue is being stuck with Windows Mobile as an OS. The .net development platform is fine and the hardware may be great too. But as an OS, WM is sucky and doesn't allocate it's resources in the correct places.
Just look at the consistant responsiveness of the iPhone. In fact you don't need to get an iPhone to see this. The iPod touch is a fabulous piece of kit.
Personally, I think once Google's Android has proven itself and made it's way onto a few more devices than the G1 it will be another great platform for developers and users - regardless of whether those users continue to support the iPhone or not. Likewise Symbian may yet prove a worthy force in the PDA/smartphone market once it becomes touchscreen with series 60v5.
For those nay-sayers about the iPhone, I truly believe they just haven't had a real good play around with one recently. Once you have seriously tried it out, lived with one for a few hours, experience the App-Store, iTunes integration, Media Player, Huge screen, Safari Browser, Pinch to zoom, Multi-Touch, Google Maps, BBC iPlayer, etc it really does make one wonder how Windows Mob continues to sell ANY units!... Sure they have their own shortcomings but WM6.1 has many, many more.
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HTC Diamond (MDAc IV) user w/Dutty's rom!
Multi touch can enable some fun features, but other than being able to turn your phone into an instrument and zooming in and out, multitouch is essentially useless.
Just had to post this somewhere (sorry!)
In all comparison reviews & tests between the Iphone and HTC - they always bring up that Apple has thousands of apps available in their store and WM doesnt. Someone should tell them that there are thousands of applications for Windows Mobile out there - and for free!!
And they are actually usefull stuff, compared to Apples costy gimmicks (which according to
studies people only use once or twice then ditch them).
Spread the word!
Then it's Apple 1 Microsoft 0 for Microsoft's failure to get all these apps into the marketplace where they can be easily accessed and impress the reviewers.
Absolutely no relevance to HTC.
Let's leave it 1-1 then and not start an Apple vs HTC/MS discussion/flamewar again.
Don't think this thread was necessary - but jannen is right when he says "spread the word". Bashing Windows Mobile for no good reason is a recent trend among bloggers that's really sad.
I've just got to say, if most of the WM apps are placed into WM MarketPlace then a large proportion of them won't be free.
Apple makes it easier for consumers by having them all in one place else no one would find anything for the iPhone. Most WM users are quite adept at hunting down useful applications so it doesn't really bother most of the users.
Can people please post links to these so called good apps? As I have searched and found little that I think is nice to look at as what free ones I have seen look like the old BBC game "Elite"
I'm not an XDa Dev boff, have no idea where to look.
Tried to search WM 6.5 apps/widgets/games, HD2 apps, games... all come up with poo apps
Links please? (if allowed, cant see why they wouldnt) and obviously not warez.
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Can people please post links to these so called good apps? As I have searched and found little that I think is nice to look at as what free ones I have seen look like the old BBC game "Elite"
I'm not an XDa Dev boff, have no idea where to look.
Tried to search WM 6.5 apps/widgets/games, HD2 apps, games... all come up with poo apps
Links please? (if allowed, cant see why they wouldnt) and obviously not warez.
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I used to have a BBC and played a lot of Elite. I'd LOVE it if you could get a version for windows mobile!
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DAMNIT!!! I found it on Handango, but it's no longer available
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YES!!!! http://www.eliteppc.com/
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Just had to post this somewhere (sorry!)
In all comparison reviews & tests between the Yellow pages and my Outlook- they always bring up that yellow pages has thousands of numbers available in their book and my Outlook doesnt. Someone should tell them that there are thousands of phone numbers for people out there - and for free!!
And they are actually usefull people, compared to Outlooks boring people (which according to
studies people only call once or twice then ditch them).
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Edited for accuracy. Worst pro WM argument ever!
LOL, me too.
BTW, I just spotted the themes and applications section tit
Sorry
Didnt want to start a war here. Iphone has its merits as does Nokia as does many other phones. We all have a phone we love, mine is WM.
Just dont think its fair Windows Mobile gets bad rep for not having apps available, which is not true. There are many out there and most are free. If they were put to a marketplace... well, obviosly they wouldnt be free...
Sorry if I upset any... (think you guys are still cool! this is still the best forum)
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Didnt want to start a war here. Iphone has its merits as does Nokia as does many other phones. We all have a phone we love, mine is WM.
Just dont think its fair Windows Mobile gets bad rep for not having apps available, which is not true. There are many out there and most are free. If they were put to a marketplace... well, obviosly they wouldnt be free...
Sorry if I upset any... (think you guys are still cool! this is still the best forum)
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If that was because of my post, I apologise. It's not always easy to tell when someone is just pulling someones leg on forums I agree M$ must improve its marketplace and correlate all worthy apps in one place, or it will not stand a chance in the coming months.
OP has a point, this is my first windows phone and the marketplace is (currently) crap!
Any links like this one:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
where I can get some decent win mo software would be nice
what bugs me is that most of the apps (especially games) i found are for qvga devices, so look TERRIBLE on my lovely HD2 screen
thats the advantge of the iphone, like consoles, developers know Exactly what hardware they have to work with.
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thats the advantge of the iphone, like consoles, developers know Exactly what hardware they have to work with.
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The iPhone still has a ****ty HVGA screen. That needs to change soon, otherwise competitors will extend the lead even more in terms of hardware. The screen of the HD2, for example, already is a huge advantage, it makes everything from web browsing to reading mail, books etc. a lot more pleasant.
What happens then? Games developed for the 2G/3G/3GS iPhone may not work anymore, developers will have to develop for different hardware just like they have to do on Windows Mobile.
And by the way, there are lots of games for WVGA available. Really lots of them, and good ones.
The debate around AppStore v Marketplace is entirely spurious and makes about as much sense as saying my six month old child can't walk or talk as well as my neighbour's three year old.
There are a host of excellent, mature applications available for the PPC platform that are entirely independent of Marketplace (and I hope they remain so). A significant percentage of the best PPC apps were also around long before the iPhone was even a bulge in Steve Job's trousers.
In those terms the iPhone is still miles behind, although I admit that if you are looking for a fluffy little puffball of pointless visual nonsense with which to amuse the hard of thinking, the iPhone has to be the platform of choice.
While I admire the OP's intentions in trying to balance out the pointlessly negative threads posted by those with a suspiciously pro-iPhone agenda, I suspect we are all just going over the same old ground and should simply agree to disagree before it all decends into another flame war.
I'd therefore propose that we close this thread and get on with some of the business that concerns the device that brought us all here in the first place, rather than fretting about how it stacks up against other devices.
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if you are looking for a fluffy little puffball of pointless visual nonsense with which to amuse the hard of thinking, the iPhone has to be the platform of choice.
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The iPhone still has a ****ty HVGA screen. That needs to change soon, otherwise competitors will extend the lead even more in terms of hardware. The screen of the HD2, for example, already is a huge advantage, it makes everything from web browsing to reading mail, books etc. a lot more pleasant.
What happens then? Games developed for the 2G/3G/3GS iPhone may not work anymore, developers will have to develop for different hardware just like they have to do on Windows Mobile.
And by the way, there are lots of games for WVGA available. Really lots of them, and good ones.
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Forget the screen just plug the fluffy puffball into the telly
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Forget the screen just plug the fluffy puffball into the telly
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Sorry, but buying an iPhone for playing games on the TV is stupid. There are PCs and consoles for that which are much more fun.
For gaming on the go, the HD2 is at least as good, if not better. I really enjoy playing all my SNES games on the HD2, those alone are already more than the total amount of games you find in the iPhone AppStore
Soon there's a new version of FPSCE and we can play our PSX games on the HD2, all of them being better than anything you can find in the AppStore.
Just look at that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5JoNUFHbJY
There's absolutely NOTHING in the AppStore that can compete with that.
And there are also lots of good standalone games for the HD2, like NFS undercover, Asphalt 4, POP, ..............
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Sorry, but buying an iPhone for playing games on the TV is stupid. There are PCs and consoles for that which are much more fun.
For gaming on the go, the HD2 is at least as good, if not better. I really enjoy playing all my SNES games on the HD2, those alone are already more than the total amount of games you find in the iPhone AppStore
Soon there's a new version of FPSCE and we can play our PSX games on the HD2, all of them being better than anything you can find in the AppStore.
Just look at that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5JoNUFHbJY
There's absolutely NOTHING in the AppStore that can compete with that.
And there are also lots of good standalone games for the HD2, like NFS undercover, Asphalt 4, POP, ..............
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I know what you mean and I am far too old for playing these sort of games but it is nice to have a working option. Spent thousands of pounds on HTC devices and they all have the registry entry but no function - very frustrating. You could always do some serious browsing or emailing or anything. Just an option.
TP2 has TV out if you want that. I don't get why someone would want to connect the phone to a TV for browsing or playing games... TV out for presentations: Yes, but for games?! Doesn't make sense, there's much better devices than phones for this.
Anyway, the HD2 is really the best phone for gaming.
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Hear...hear!
The truth is that all this hype abot the iPhone having more apps than windows mobile is as specious as it is purely PROPAGANDA! I know at least 4 people who get paid specifically to start a "blogging" campaign for or against whatever you want. This WinMo bashing campaign does look suspicious!
Just because the iPhone has a centeralized "marketplace" for alllll their fart apps doesn't mean that their measely 25,000 apps collection meets or exceeds what's available for CE. I personally have 2.8 Gigabytes of apps just for winmo 5+ (after cleaning and deleting old versions etc...).
In reality, it is just impossible to account for the windows mobile application base; software developers have been enriching windows mobile for more than 10 years, and they market their software independantly.
Personally, I bought, used, and gifted away my iPhone in a month! Yes, smooth animation, slick UI, a thin base of useful apps ( the rest are over-polished iFarts really), but no utility beyond that of an iPod whatsoever. The damn thing couldn't even handle basic "Cut-n-Paste" until it was later introduced as an "advanced update", let alone lack of multitasking, customizability, and its uselessness as a business phone -author & edit documents, spreadsheets, presentation, fax, OCR, exchange mail, etc... forget it! You want advanced functionality, enterprise mobility, a business solution? There really is only one way ----> The WinMo way.
For all its hype, the iPhone is a "chick-flick"; a fluffy darling you take to the manicure parlor! Its made for simplicity not multitasking, streamlined experience, not customizability; BASIC simple-minded FUNCTIONALITY!
And if you're here to start a flame-war, so be it; this is, and has been, an HTC/WinMo forum from day 1... You've brought your iPhone to the wrong shop honey!
So...........I did a few multitouch tests last night for ****s and giggles and on one test it sensed 5 contact points (I was like when i saw this BTW) and the other performed pretty well also the only way i could get the two contact points to get stuck together was when i slid one finger under the other.
so after having my Nexus and trying these tests which were a huge FAIL and giving up on my Game Emulators that i purchased back in my G1 days I decided to give it another go on my Vibrant and the only thing i have to say is HOLY ****!!! My GBA, SNES, SEGA, and NES emulators run INSANE, the multitouch is on par, and it only made me fall way more in love with my Vibrant
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So...........I did a few multitouch tests last night for ****s and giggles and on one test it sensed 5 contact points (I was like when i saw this BTW) and the other performed pretty well also the only way i could get the two contact points to get stuck together was when i slid one finger under the other.
so after having my Nexus and trying these tests which were a huge FAIL and giving up on my Game Emulators that i purchased back in my G1 days I decided to give it another go on my Vibrant and the only thing i have to say is HOLY ****!!! My GBA, SNES, SEGA, and NES emulators run INSANE, the multitouch is on par, and it only made me fall way more in love with my Vibrant
Just some screenies of my 2 hours of fun last night
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NICE!!! Thanks for sharing...very informative. I'm curious how the new iphone will stack up to these tests as well. hhmmm...
how easy is it to get those games going on the vibrant? slowly learning here =)
Yep. Part of the SAMOLED specs was a better touch panel. Nice to see it's as good as they claim!
I also notice that if you use the Samsung input method instead of Swype, you almost get a full multitouch keyboard.
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how easy is it to get those games going on the vibrant? slowly learning here =)
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Go to the market and download
NESOID (Nintendo)
SNESOID (Super Nintendo)
GENSOID (Sega Genesis)
GAMEBOID (Game Boy Advanced)
or anything by a developer called "yongzh"
he also has a Game Boy classic and a Game Gear emulator
then get RomBuddy on the market to get the games the GBA emulator needs a "BIOS" file to play it you can find it on RomBuddy or you can do it like I did and search the internet for hours and test out what games work and don't
keep in mind these are all payed apps and both the apps and the roms (games) are illegal to distribute so before you ask just in case NO i wont post up any APK's or ROM's and no the roms dont cost anything just the emulators and Rombuddy <---Easiest way to find the roms
Type in "yongzh" in your search bar on the market and he has some "lite" versions of his emulators so you can try it out before buying
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I also notice that if you use the Samsung input method instead of Swype, you almost get a full multitouch keyboard.
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yeah i use Better Keyboard and its runs really well on the phone also BTW its not quite yet multitouch yet but its pretty close, most keyboards claim to be but i dont think theres is one yet
another thing i tested were some of the piano apps on the market that poped up when i typed in "multitouch" in the search bar on the market and those all worked pretty well you could push two keys at a time but i kind of forgot to see if maybe more than two fingers would work?
I know the emulators were reacting to more than two fingers (not that you would want to fit more than two fingers on a 4" screen while playing a game )
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Go to the market and download
NESOID (Nintendo)
SNESOID (Super Nintendo)
GENSOID (Sega Genesis)
GAMEBOID (Game Boy Advanced)
or anything by a developer called "yongzh"
he also has a Game Boy classic and a Game Gear emulator
then get RomBuddy on the market to get the games the GBA emulator needs a "BIOS" file to play it you can find it on RomBuddy or you can do it like I did and search the internet for hours and test out what games work and don't
keep in mind these are all payed apps and both the apps and the roms (games) are illegal to distribute so before you ask just in case NO i wont post up any APK's or ROM's and no the roms dont cost anything just the emulators and Rombuddy <---Easiest way to find the roms
Type in "yongzh" in your search bar on the market and he has some "lite" versions of his emulators so you can try it out before buying
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Um, how good is rombuddy if I may ask? I understand that this stuff is illegal, but in the spirit of sharing, I would like to say that the website known as emuparadise is also good for roms. They have every GBA game ever, and a good selection of others I believe. Now sure how easy it is since you'd probably be downloading onto your computer and putting the rom files in the right folder, unless you can download to a certain folder on android, but it is free at least. People who are downloading illegal emulators and roms probably want to be as cheap as possible after all.
Im pretty sure the 5 contact points is not a thing with the Vibrant, the Nexus One just had a really bad touch sensor.
Multitouch on the Vibrant/GALAXY S series is excellent. I think most of us we're apprised to that. Just trying out pinch to zoom in the web browser and GPS maps shows how awesome the touch pad on this phone is. It's easily at the level of the iPhone.
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Im pretty sure the 5 contact points is not a thing with the Vibrant, the Nexus One just had a really bad touch sensor.
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what do you mean by "is not a thing with the vibrant"? and unless both my boys nexus and mine had a bad touch sensor I think you sir would be wrong. It was a hardware issue theres many many videos out on it, Im not bashing the Nexus because i loved mine but the Vibrants screen is better IMO
Download Multitouch Test by "Greenrobot" and if you tell me that you put 5 fingers on the screen (at the same time )and it pops up with five points then Ill call my friend up and tell him he has a defective Nexus
The Galaxy S is using one of the best touch sensor available, its made by a company call Atmel, the one being use in the Galaxy S supports unlimited touch.
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what do you mean by "is not a thing with the vibrant"? and unless both my boys nexus and mine had a bad touch sensor I think you sir would be wrong. It was a hardware issue theres many many videos out on it, Im not bashing the Nexus because i loved mine but the Vibrants screen is better IMO
Download Multitouch Test by "Greenrobot" and if you tell me that you put 5 fingers on the screen (at the same time )and it pops up with five points then Ill call my friend up and tell him he has a defective Nexus
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No i was just getting at the nexus one had a flawed touch sensor to begin with. Others like the Droid X or the Incredible have touch screens similar to the Vibrant.
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No i was just getting at the nexus one had a flawed touch sensor to begin with. Others like the Droid X or the Incredible have touch screens similar to the Vibrant.
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oh sorry i got all on the defensive, yeah i think the Evo is also on the list of good screens
I used to prefer the resistive screen of my Nokia n900 over any other capacitive screen. However, this phone has since changed my opinion of capacitive touch screens and on screen keyboards. A stylus would still be nice though
Actually, the Incredible (and the Evo/HD2) have the same crappy sensor as the N1 and the Desire.
Multi-touch on those Snapdragon phones is a hack job, the actual hardware used doesn't even support it directly. Every wonder why the Sony X10 doesn't support multi-touch at all? It's not because of Android 1.6, it's the hardware. It has the same touchscreen hardware as the HTC devices (and is probably co-designed/manufactured by HTC too), but they didn't try to make it work with a driver hack like HTC did.
The Milestone/Droid, which has an EXCELLENT sensor and used to be the best in the business until the Galaxy S came to town, only supports two inputs. Which, btw, is plenty, it'll be a rare rare application that can take advantage of multi-multi-touch.
Not sure what's on the Droid X, but I imagine the hardware will be at least as good as the Droid.
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Actually, the Incredible (and the Evo/HD2) have the same crappy sensor as the N1 and the Desire.
Multi-touch on those Snapdragon phones is a hack job, the actual hardware used doesn't even support it directly. Every wonder why the Sony X10 doesn't support multi-touch at all? It's not because of Android 1.6, it's the hardware. It has the same touchscreen hardware as the HTC devices (and is probably co-designed/manufactured by HTC too), but they didn't try to make it work with a driver hack like HTC did.
The Milestone/Droid, which has an EXCELLENT sensor and used to be the best in the business until the Galaxy S came to town, only supports two inputs. Which, btw, is plenty, it'll be a rare rare application that can take advantage of multi-multi-touch.
Not sure what's on the Droid X, but I imagine the hardware will be at least as good as the Droid.
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Would you know how many inputs the iphone4 can handle? Very curious...they use our cpu made by samsung along with other components, I wonder how similar our touch screen tech is....
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Actually, the Incredible (and the Evo/HD2) have the same crappy sensor as the N1 and the Desire.
Multi-touch on those Snapdragon phones is a hack job, the actual hardware used doesn't even support it directly. Every wonder why the Sony X10 doesn't support multi-touch at all? It's not because of Android 1.6, it's the hardware. It has the same touchscreen hardware as the HTC devices (and is probably co-designed/manufactured by HTC too), but they didn't try to make it work with a driver hack like HTC did.
The Milestone/Droid, which has an EXCELLENT sensor and used to be the best in the business until the Galaxy S came to town, only supports two inputs. Which, btw, is plenty, it'll be a rare rare application that can take advantage of multi-multi-touch.
Not sure what's on the Droid X, but I imagine the hardware will be at least as good as the Droid.
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is all this information fact? i really like HTC and i would hate to think that their screens couldn't get better by a small fix, so would you say that Samsungs screen is one of the best screens out and if not the best who would be its direct competitor or what place would you put Samsung in?
Nevermind I got it to work
Specs and benchmark wise, we all know the Vibrant's GPU is king.
Compared to other Android phones, say a Nexus One, or a G2, where can we see the GPU shine where others can't?
Basically, what can this GPU do that others can't
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Specs and benchmark wise, we all know the Vibrant's GPU is king.
Compared to other Android phones, say a Nexus One, or a G2, where can we see the GPU shine where others can't?
Basically, what can this GPU do that others can't
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It can do things faster. Both a Prius and Ferrari can drive 100 meters, why is the Ferrari better?
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It can do things faster. Both a Prius and Ferrari can drive 100 meters, why is the Ferrari better?
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But Ferrari has no practice purpose for as a daily city driver. In the GPU perspective, it's like having a powerful GPU but no software to use the potential.
I believe OP is asking what software can make use of our GPU to its fullest extend.
I say it's emulators, the GPU benefits emulators more than anything.
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But Ferrari has no practice purpose for as a daily city driver. In the GPU perspective, it's like having a powerful GPU but no software to use the potential.
I believe OP is asking what software can make use of our GPU to its fullest extend.
I say it's emulators, the GPU benefits emulators more than anything.
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Essentially, you think the OP is asking what uses a GPU. Anything you see uses the GPU. The Vibrant does it all better. What you can tell the difference on is completely subjective to the person in a lot of ways.
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But Ferrari has no practice purpose for as a daily city driver. In the GPU perspective, it's like having a powerful GPU but no software to use the potential.
I believe OP is asking what software can make use of our GPU to its fullest extend.
I say it's emulators, the GPU benefits emulators more than anything.
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A Ferrari has just as much purpose as any other car?
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A Ferrari has just as much purpose as any other car?
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Really? Try moving a couch (or an entire house) with one.
Seriously, get the right tool for the right job.
More to the point, if you want to demonstrate the graphical superiority of the Vibrant put some 3D games on it.
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Really? Try moving a couch (or an entire house) with one.
Seriously, get the right tool for the right job.
More to the point, if you want to demonstrate the graphical superiority of the Vibrant put some 3D games on it.
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The purpose of a car is to provide transportation of something faster/easier than other means(walking, bicycle, rollerblading) i.e. convenience . You could move a couch with a Ferrari anyways, I take it you have never looked under a license plate before. (it would also do a lot better job at it than most cars)
Cars were not created to move couches, sorry buddy.
XDA posters are really starting to make me question if it is worth my time to log in.
what a DA
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Essentially, you think the OP is asking what uses a GPU. Anything you see uses the GPU. The Vibrant does it all better. What you can tell the difference on is completely subjective to the person in a lot of ways.
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not too smart or just playing dumb, but ill play along. the op is asking what best displays the power of the gpu. like i have a ferrari and i want to show how much better than a prius it is, where can i go to show its full power.
Well, the iPhone4 uses the SGX535 for its gpu. The hummingbird uses the superior SGX540. And the G2 uses the Adreno 205. They're all great GPUs, but there's not much software out there which is designed to push it to its limits yet. Most Android games out there are designed to be playable on the NexusOne and Droid, so they're not gonna push the limits just yet.
ID Software is working on a game called RAGE. let's see how well the galaxy s runs this game compared to the nexus one! the gpu is more powerful. it runs faster, pushes more polygons, and has smoother textures. you won't notice any difference until games like RAGE are released. then you'll start to see the difference in these phones. the galaxy s phones, and those running the Tegra2 chipset are going to run away with it.
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The purpose of a car is to provide transportation of something faster/easier than other means(walking, bicycle, rollerblading) i.e. convenience . You could move a couch with a Ferrari anyways, I take it you have never looked under a license plate before. (it would also do a lot better job at it than most cars)
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Riiiiiiight. So you're not talking about the type of vehicle that Ferrari is famous for, the little 2 seater sports cars.
I'd like to see the pic of you attempting to move a couch with one of those.
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Cars were not created to move couches, sorry buddy.
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No kidding? That was my original point. Glad your Detect Obvious meter is working today.
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XDA posters are really starting to make me question if it is worth my time to log in.
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Now this is the first smart thing you've said the entire conversation.
I'm new here, where's the Ignore button? If I want to deal with obnoxious 12 year olds I can go to the Star Wars:TOR boards or 10 billion other places on the 'Net.
NM, found the Ignore button.
Maybe I'm way outta line here but I expect some intelligence on a board devoted to development. Or at the very least, logic.
Now quit derailing this guy's thread. I won't be replying to you.
Leave it to xda to not answer the question at hand.
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It can do things faster. Both a Prius and Ferrari can drive 100 meters, why is the Ferrari better?
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Sherlock Homes are we? No **** it can do things faster, I'm trying to see what it actually does better/where we can actually see a difference.
Besides, Ferrari > Prius is an opinion.
PaiPiePia said:
But Ferrari has no practice purpose for as a daily city driver. In the GPU perspective, it's like having a powerful GPU but no software to use the potential.
I believe OP is asking what software can make use of our GPU to its fullest extend.
I say it's emulators, the GPU benefits emulators more than anything.
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At least someone gets it.
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A Ferrari has just as much purpose as any other car?
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Some cars can tow, some cars can go more than 10 miles without having to refuel, some cars can carry 2.5 people, some cars can hold more than a week's grocery, etc. etc. I'm not a doctor, but I am pretty sure the typical supercar can't do any of those.
Mark271 said:
The purpose of a car is to provide transportation of something faster/easier than other means(walking, bicycle, rollerblading) i.e. convenience . You could move a couch with a Ferrari anyways, I take it you have never looked under a license plate before. (it would also do a lot better job at it than most cars)
Cars were not created to move couches, sorry buddy.
XDA posters are really starting to make me question if it is worth my time to log in.
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The irony, it's delicious!
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Riiiiiiight. So you're not talking about the type of vehicle that Ferrari is famous for, the little 2 seater sports cars.
I'd like to see the pic of you attempting to move a couch with one of those.
No kidding? That was my original point. Glad your Detect Obvious meter is working today.
Now this is the first smart thing you've said the entire conversation.
I'm new here, where's the Ignore button? If I want to deal with obnoxious 12 year olds I can go to the Star Wars:TOR boards or 10 billion other places on the 'Net.
NM, found the Ignore button.
Maybe I'm way outta line here but I expect some intelligence on a board devoted to development. Or at the very least, logic.
Now quit derailing this guy's thread. I won't be replying to you.
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I see why Samsung doesn't care about it's smart customers figuring out problems with its devices, it has all these stupid ones that will keep buying it. Any car can tow a couch, you must have never heard of Uhaul.
Back on point, IT IS A GRAPHICS PROCESSOR. Name graphics that need processed and the Vibrant does it better. Movies, video games, youtube high definition videos, ANYTHING you can see on this phone is better than any other non SGS android phone because of it's GPU. It is completely subjective which ones you can tell the difference on, some people can tell the difference between 55 and 60 fps, others cannot tell the difference between 30 and 60
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I see why Samsung doesn't care about it's smart customers figuring out problems with its devices, it has all these stupid ones that will keep buying it. Any car can tow a couch, you must have never heard of Uhaul.
Back on point, IT IS A GRAPHICS PROCESSOR. Name graphics that need processed and the Vibrant does it better. Movies, video games, youtube high definition videos, ANYTHING you can see on this phone is better than any other non SGS android phone because of it's GPU. It is completely subjective which ones you can tell the difference on, some people can tell the difference between 55 and 60 fps, others cannot tell the difference between 30 and 60
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You're basically asking, what can I do to see the difference between video cards or what will show it? Think about it this way, the g2 has a radeon 4800 and the vibrant has a radeon 4850. They do the same thing, one is better at it.
P.S. I just realized using analogies on the XDA forums is like explaining electromagnetic currents to a psychology major. I don't expect the previous repliers to my post to get this either.
this is like comparing the xbox360 to the xbox, or the ps3 to the ps2. or even better, a 2GHz dual core AMD anthlon cpu vs. the 3.2GHz AMD Phenon x6 multicore processor. they all have the same functions, but the faster more powerful ones do things faster, and more efficiently. we don't see a huge difference in the graphics yet, because there isn't any games that even come close to pushing the galaxy s gpu to it's limits. like i said, the first game that may actually push it, looks to be RAGE, from ID software. other 1GHz phones, such as the EVO 4g, may not be able to play this game considering it has a weaker gpu. whereas, the galaxy s should run this game smoothly. also, RAGE may also include options with the graphics. you may be able to turn on/off certain special effects/graphical features, depending what phone you have. with so many different phones, with a multitude of abilities, games may start being designed for the top of the line phones, with the most powerful cpu/gpus, but may give the ability to tone down the graphics for those with lesser phones. as for now, the gpu in the galaxy s is one of the best, if not the best gpu in today's phones. we don't see it as much as we should for the mere fact that there is nothing that is pushing it to it's limits. it may be a waste for the moment, but at least we are ready to future titles that will push the graphics to it's limits.
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this is like comparing the xbox360 to the xbox, or the ps3 to the ps2. or even better, a 2GHz dual core AMD anthlon cpu vs. the 3.2GHz AMD Phenon x6 multicore processor. they all have the same functions, but the faster more powerful ones do things faster, and more efficiently. we don't see a huge difference in the graphics yet, because there isn't any games that even come close to pushing the galaxy s gpu to it's limits. like i said, the first game that may actually push it, looks to be RAGE, from ID software. other 1GHz phones, such as the EVO 4g, may not be able to play this game considering it has a weaker gpu. whereas, the galaxy s should run this game smoothly. also, RAGE may also include options with the graphics. you may be able to turn on/off certain special effects/graphical features, depending what phone you have. with so many different phones, with a multitude of abilities, games may start being designed for the top of the line phones, with the most powerful cpu/gpus, but may give the ability to tone down the graphics for those with lesser phones. as for now, the gpu in the galaxy s is one of the best, if not the best gpu in today's phones. we don't see it as much as we should for the mere fact that there is nothing that is pushing it to it's limits. it may be a waste for the moment, but at least we are ready to future titles that will push the graphics to it's limits.
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Ding ding, somebody gets it.
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Leave it to xda to not answer the question at hand.
Sherlock Homes are we? No **** it can do things faster, I'm trying to see what it actually does better/where we can actually see a difference.
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Seriously, man? Is it douchebag hour at home? It's a GPU. It's just ****ing faster than other GPUs. It's not going to give you a reach-around if you love it enough.
You want to see actual differences? Go get a friend with an Evo and play Asphalt side by side.
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quit arguing, it makes you all look like idiots in a tech forum...
What is it from my OP that people don't understand?
I explicitly said I know the Vibrant's GPU is better so obviously it's faster, I don't need you to tell me that.
I was asking what it can actually do better because I'm debating on picking up G2 but specs wise, people say the GPU is better. So yeah, it's better, but I would like to know where and how we can see this difference in graphical power. As far as I know, watching movies and playing a majority of the games in the market right now, there is no noticeable difference.
Is that clear enough for you guys? Or maybe the next few idiotic posters can just continue to tell me IT'S FASTER.
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What is it from my OP that people don't understand?
I explicitly said I know the Vibrant's GPU is better so obviously it's faster, I don't need you to tell me that.
I was asking what it can actually do better because I'm debating on picking up G2 but specs wise, people say the GPU is better. So yeah, it's better, but I would like to know where and how we can see this difference in graphical power. As far as I know, watching movies and playing a majority of the games in the market right now, there is no noticeable difference.
Is that clear enough for you guys? Or maybe the next few idiotic posters can just continue to tell me IT'S FASTER.
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Gonna repeat what I said few posts above, its gotta be emulators.
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I'm Interested in this phone....but I'm just iffy on the Tech side of it. It looks Great! But I want a gaming phone that will last me for the 2 years i have on contract with it. I mean look at the Iphone...The 3gs has been around a long time and plays games that look great! On android phones thats not the case...
Back to this phone! The tech looks dated and games are only getting better..... I mean look at the dual core phones! 2 years from now i have a feeling this phone will end up like my rooted droid eris(BLOWS)...useless and slow when it comes to games. Why is that? When Iphone keeps quality games all the time...even years after its been out. I just adore this phone though...I love playstation and want to enrich in the experience of gaming on the mobile phone...I like carrying one device around that can do it all!
Is there hope for this thing? Any games coming out in the future that will make me go was up Iphone? What you got on this? Do you think games will still be hitting the market for this thing in 2 years time? Hell i know people who keep the Iphone 3gs even though they can upgrade!
So I mean really....Iphone 4 or Xperia Play? I'm looking towards Xperia Play but i dont want to regret later wishing i bought the Iphone 4. hmmmmm
Thanks for the help and sorry for my Brick of Text!
Listen, son, playing games properly and emulating your ROMs are the main reasons why you're buying this. Oh, and the ridiculously precise GPS. That's what this phone does best. The iPhone 4 will have more games, and they'll be more optimized for its specs (which are the same as the Xperia's, heads up!), but once you try the pad here, you'll wonder why you were even using a touch screen to play. It is just so much different.
The above post sums it up pretty good.
As said, the iphone 4 has the same specs. While the iPhone 4 may get more games, the fact is a lot of them use on screen controls, which suck SO harshly compared to buttons you never need to look at (or for). This on it's own makes it worlds better than the iphone.
Add in the open, totally customizable android platform, stereo very good for cell phone speakers, and a very nice, large screen, and you've got little reason to get the iphone.
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I'm Interested in this phone....but I'm just iffy on the Tech side of it. It looks Great! But I want a gaming phone that will last me for the 2 years i have on contract with it. I mean look at the Iphone...The 3gs has been around a long time and plays games that look great! On android phones thats not the case...
Back to this phone! The tech looks dated and games are only getting better..... I mean look at the dual core phones! 2 years from now i have a feeling this phone will end up like my rooted droid eris(BLOWS)...useless and slow when it comes to games. Why is that? When Iphone keeps quality games all the time...even years after its been out. I just adore this phone though...I love playstation and want to enrich in the experience of gaming on the mobile phone...I like carrying one device around that can do it all!
Is there hope for this thing? Any games coming out in the future that will make me go was up Iphone? What you got on this? Do you think games will still be hitting the market for this thing in 2 years time? Hell i know people who keep the Iphone 3gs even though they can upgrade!
So I mean really....Iphone 4 or Xperia Play? I'm looking towards Xperia Play but i dont want to regret later wishing i bought the Iphone 4. hmmmmm
Thanks for the help and sorry for my Brick of Text!
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Mate, plain and simple, there's so many threads about this on this forum it's ridicilious. I'll try and answer your questions, and hopefully you'll make your mind up.
1. If you want a gaming phone, this wins, no contest (I came from a 3GS)
2. Emulation with a proper dedicated controller is off the charts, when I talk to my mates who use the touchscreen to play fpse or whatever, they say it's unplayable, and from my phone, I've convinced a few people to trade in iPhones, Galaxy S's to get it. It's a beast of a phone.
3. You're right, in 2 years, it won't be what it is today, but it'll still be able to hold it's own. If you take care of it, and be smart about what your installing you should be ok. It's a new phone, and I'd say 2 years will be just about the right time to trade it in for the next Xperia Play
4. The reason the iphone 3GS STILL plays amazing games and the likes, whereas some Androids don't is simple...Android is moving forward at a much faster pace than the iPhone. The 3G -> 3GS was a big step, but not MASSIVE, the 3GS -> iPhone 4 was minute! When it comes down to it, you won't notice the difference between the 2. But in the last 2 years, the difference in Androids is ridiculous. HTC Desire -> Lg Optimpus 2x, Evo 3D, etc.
I came, as previously said, from an iPhone, and I don't look back at all.
Don't like the stock music player? Uninstall it, browser? Change it...you have so much freedom, it's completly up to you!
Nhialor said:
Mate, plain and simple, there's so many threads about this on this forum it's ridicilious. I'll try and answer your questions, and hopefully you'll make your mind up.
1. If you want a gaming phone, this wins, no contest (I came from a 3GS)
2. Emulation with a proper dedicated controller is off the charts, when I talk to my mates who use the touchscreen to play fpse or whatever, they say it's unplayable, and from my phone, I've convinced a few people to trade in iPhones, Galaxy S's to get it. It's a beast of a phone.
3. You're right, in 2 years, it won't be what it is today, but it'll still be able to hold it's own. If you take care of it, and be smart about what your installing you should be ok. It's a new phone, and I'd say 2 years will be just about the right time to trade it in for the next Xperia Play
4. The reason the iphone 3GS STILL plays amazing games and the likes, whereas some Androids don't is simple...Android is moving forward at a much faster pace than the iPhone. The 3G -> 3GS was a big step, but not MASSIVE, the 3GS -> iPhone 4 was minute! When it comes down to it, you won't notice the difference between the 2. But in the last 2 years, the difference in Androids is ridiculous. HTC Desire -> Lg Optimpus 2x, Evo 3D, etc.
I came, as previously said, from an iPhone, and I don't look back at all.
Don't like the stock music player? Uninstall it, browser? Change it...you have so much freedom, it's completly up to you!
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Yea you grabbed my Attention...I like the freedom and really i dont want to get sucked into apples so called "world" I like my Freedom!....I've made up my mind...I'm content with the Xperia Play. I like Android but maybe my Eris has been giving me a crappy experience. Damn...Everytime i look at that gaming pad...All i think about is SNES...NES, GBA...PS1!!(How do all those run?)...Thanks! Made up my mind. Oh and maybe you could Clear me up on What the Playstation Suite will offer in games? I saw Little Big Planet!
Jakndax said:
Damn...Everytime i look at that gaming pad...All i think about is SNES...NES, GBA...PS1!!(How do all those run?)...Thanks! Made up my mind. Oh and maybe you could Clear me up on What the Playstation Suite will offer in games? I saw Little Big Planet!
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Dude, this thing rapes for snes, nes, (don't have gba emu), and PS1. Seriously, it's an old school gamers dream. I'm replaying super mario 64, final fantasy VII, super mario RPG, and many more, and they all run and play amazing. I really hope Sony keeps making these phones, or I'm gonna have a seriously outdated phone 5 years from now
As for the playstation suite, It hasn't really taken off yet. I'll be super stoked though if LBP comes to this thing.
Freaking sweet...Now im wondering why i even thought of the Iphone! WTF? Xperia Play Here i come!
Jakndax said:
Freaking sweet...Now im wondering why i even thought of the Iphone! WTF? Xperia Play Here i come!
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Because it's thin and purty Unfortunately (for it) It's only skin deep.
You said you wanted a gaming phone. This is the only one on the planet right now
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- If you want to play a load of Gameloft games that look great, with buttons, this is the phone for you.
- If you want to play a load of emulator games, with buttons, this is the phone for you.
- If you want a great contract for a small price and this handset for free (yes if you shop around you can get it very cheap), then this is the phone for you.
- If you can put up with a few small minor flaws with the phone (although i havn't had any problems with it but some seem to) and do all of the above, this is the phone for you.
If you want to look cool with a group of isheep and pay for a large monthly contract, then the iphone is for you.
speedyink said:
I really hope Sony keeps making these phones, or I'm gonna have a seriously outdated phone 5 years from now
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Anit that the truth !!! lol
As everyone else has stated gaming with this is awesome. I am running all the emulators and have hardly played the pre-installed games. Once i finnish one game theres millions more to choose from
I cannot help but snigger now when i see people trying to play with emulators/most games on a touchscreen phone, feels good .
Even if this phone feels dated in 2 years. You will still be able to run all the emulators you've been running for that last 2 years so who cares lol. Plus fpse updates will only make fpse better and better. And once custom roms appear with processor overclocking the sky is the limit or atleast 1.6-1.8GHz which will play any game flawlessly i guess?
Mozza2k11 said:
I cannot help but snigger now when i see people trying to play with emulators/most games on a touchscreen phone, feels good .
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I know eh? I watched a video review for some gameloft fps (modern warfare 2 I think), and the dude was using a galaxy S. He was having SUCH a rough time on the first level, moving the player awkwardly about, getting hit more than hitting other people etc.
Funny thing is it's that's the reality for everyone attempting to play these types of games on strictly touch screen.
could always try these i suppose.....
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lol
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could always try these i suppose.....
lol
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HA! Omg that awesome! Half the screen is covered in crap, i'm not sure how you're supposed to play
Mozza2k11 said:
could always try these i suppose.....
lol
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LMFAO !
So.....
You use a device that emulates hardware buttons........
Then you use hardware buttons to solve the problem of using a device that emulates hardware buttons........
Then you cant see wtf you are doing.
LOOOL !
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could always try these i suppose.....
lol
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Lol wheres the screen?
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