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Is there anyway to use the touch screen as a scale? I mean is there a program that will let you measure the pressure your "finger" incurs on the screen? Now there has to be a way to convert that to grams/ounces. I would imagine that it would take a certain amount to even activate the digitizer and it could very well be the equivalent to a minimum of .5g and that's fine with me. An operating range from .5-5g would be optimal.
I just thought this would be very useful.
i believe that there is a point og g to activate
and thats if
a timer deside when the contex menu come about
normal touch screens even pasive digtizers on tablet pc's
only do on and off registration
active digitizerts on tablets though support preasure measuring
That's your idea of an "ultimate application"? More like the fastest way to break your screen
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That's your idea of an "ultimate application"? More like the fastest way to break your screen
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I believe it to be one of the ultimate applications because it transforms your phone into something completely different silmutaneously increasing it's resourcefulness as a digital "swiss army knife" for the modern world. What other application does that (short of a TV remote)?
Are you familiar with the force of 5 grams? I don't believe you are or you wouldn't think it would break your screen. I guarantee that you put, on average, at least 8 grams of pressure everytime you touch your screen.
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Is there anyway to use the touch screen as a scale? I mean is there a program that will let you measure the pressure your "finger" incurs on the screen? Now there has to be a way to convert that to grams/ounces. I would imagine that it would take a certain amount to even activate the digitizer and it could very well be the equivalent to a minimum of .5g and that's fine with me. An operating range from .5-5g would be optimal.
I just thought this would be very useful.
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Wouldn't all your Coke get stuck at the corners of the screen
haha u read the words outa my mouth ;x that would be gangster tho
Alternatively you could try making some scales into a phone.
Haha, i realize 5g is very light...But as mentioned above the only thing I can think of that would be useful to weigh between .5 and 5g would be some white powdery substance
Otherwise, if I new it was less than 5g, I wouldn't weigh it. Problem is someone might try to weigh something much heavier and yes, break the screen
Or I could replace and reinforce the external GPS antenna cover and make it a bottle opener also.
Or I could program it to emit the proper frequency to start my "keyless" car key.
Anyways, this is all just for fun, so, don't worry, I'm not trying to tweak you.
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Wouldn't all your Coke get stuck at the corners of the screen
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Cocaine is a drug and I don't do drugs. I had something a 'lil more "green" in mind.
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Haha, i realize 5g is very light...But as mentioned above the only thing I can think of that would be useful to weigh between .5 and 5g would be some white powdery substance
Otherwise, if I new it was less than 5g, I wouldn't weigh it. Problem is someone might try to weigh something much heavier and yes, break the screen
Or I could replace and reinforce the external GPS antenna cover and make it a bottle opener also.
Or I could program it to emit the proper frequency to start my "keyless" car key.
Anyways, this is all just for fun, so, don't worry, I'm not trying to tweak you.
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Now you're onto it. The possibilities are endless. I give it another 5 years before we see similar applications. Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston right now is already texting barcodes as boarding passes that can be scanned.
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Cocaine is a drug and I don't do drugs. I had something a 'lil more "green" in mind.
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Oh, oregano! Makes sense with your screen name being Chef
A little more green? Smokin a little herb are we? Or are we selling?
I think we're onto something here. We need better touchscreens that can handle more force.
Imagine the perfect windows mobile diet phone which can tell you how much weight you've put on, find you a diet plan online. And order a pizza when it can tell you don't care anymore.
Who cares about fingertip scrolling when we finally bring the phone into the real world and make it fix other problems too.
I think a built-in stun device would be cool. And a personal alarm. A decent torch. A proper flash camera with a zoom feature. Maybe we make the zoom strong enough and big enough to take a person's weight. Who needs stepladders anymore!
I think a built in printer could help but needs to support full A4 sheets. Maybe it can scroll up and down a page until it's printed. And can we adjust the camera so it can act like a proper scanner? A portable colour photocopier is born!
I'll stop there but as you can see, the possibilities with this magical device are amazing!
LOL
i really think theres no such thing as ultimate application
i really depend on how this application will help your needs and so that way it will be very useful
peace
speoples20 said:
A little more green? Smokin a little herb are we? Or are we selling?
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I'm sorry council...I don't recall.
littld said:
I'll stop there but as you can see, the possibilities with this magical device are amazing!
LOL
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It should of course be able to monitor ovulation, blood pressure, heart rate (full ECG), blood oxigen level, blood sugar level, prothrombin ratio and last, not least my need for coffee.
And my next SIP should read my mind. Voice control and T9 are a bit old fashioned, right?
I want a phone that also works as a lightsaber.
if you smoked the "oregano"
all applications you come up with seem ultimate
and all old cake leftovers taste like the best thing in the world
(or so i've been led to believe...)
You are better off getting to know your “oregano” and learn to estimate the weight accurately. Maybe if you would need this for “sugar” or “brown sugar”, weighting something under 5g’s would be in some use.
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I believe it to be one of the ultimate applications because it transforms your phone into something completely different silmutaneously increasing it's resourcefulness as a digital "swiss army knife" for the modern world. What other application does that (short of a TV remote)?
Are you familiar with the force of 5 grams? I don't believe you are or you wouldn't think it would break your screen. I guarantee that you put, on average, at least 8 grams of pressure everytime you touch your screen.
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and why do you need to weigh grams on your phone?
I work at a nextel service center, and the other day a customer asked about the touch and told me his buddy had a digital scale application on the phone. Apparently turning the screen into a scale, dont really know if this is possible but thought I would ask here.
Thx,
Corey
dont believe so the touchscreen reg preasure or no preasure
so i dont believe it would be able to tell just how much preasure
lol what would you be measuring with said scale its weight tolerance would be very small
An app like this would rule. Especially added with clinical xpert...
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lol what would you be measuring with said scale its weight tolerance would be very small
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I assume something you only need a gram or two of...
there had been rumors also going around tht this was out for the treo 650 back in the day yet i was never able to find it
Ruler?
Not sure if you guys are kidding but the buddy probably meant a ruler.
I just loaded up the new android os. It has a tool that shows a graphical representaion of presure. The harder you push the number changes. I dont know how to make that into something but hey it's a great start.
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I work at a nextel service center, and the other day a customer asked about the touch and told me his buddy had a digital scale application on the phone. Apparently turning the screen into a scale, dont really know if this is possible but thought I would ask here.
Thx,
Corey
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If you mean a scale as in a weight-measuring tool... it's possible to do so with a pressure-sensitive screen (not all touch screens are). I don't know of any commercial or freeware programs to do this, but it is technically possible.
Even if someone took the time to write the program, it might be for a single kind of phone, and it'll be totally inaccurate. A scale should always be a scientifically calibrated tool, especially for small weights.
If the customer meant a scale as in a ruler, yeah, there's a freeware app or two that does that. Some people do say 'scale' instead of 'ruler'. Here's three to choose from:
http://freewareppc.com/misc/pocketruler.shtml
http://freewareppc.com/misc/ruler.shtml
http://freewareppc.com/misc/pruler.shtml
Finally, I suspect that your customer witnessed some sort of weird technical demonstration software for a pressure-sensitive screen OR they witnessed a hoax similar to this http://freewareppc.com/misc/xray.shtml .
We obviously have pressure-sensitive touch screens in our Vogues... if you push with your fingernail, (making a smaller touch footprint,) you can select text... if you use your fingertip, it moves the whole screen... try it in PIE
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We obviously have pressure-sensitive touch screens in our Vogues... if you push with your fingernail, (making a smaller touch footprint,) you can select text... if you use your fingertip, it moves the whole screen... try it in PIE
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thats because the actual digitizer grid that enables the touch can sense whether the area being pressed is small or large - this is not based on how much pressure is applied.
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thats because the actual digitizer grid that enables the touch can sense whether the area being pressed is small or large - this is not based on how much pressure is applied.
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Thanks, you beat me to that one.
Pressure touch screen
However all you'd need to do is have a device that will translate pressure into surface area, something like a rubber thumb may be effective, the more weight the larger circle it "creates" on the touch screen, then scan the touch screen to see the current number of pixels being touched and translate that back to weight.
I imagine McGyver could do this with a paper clip ;-)
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However all you'd need to do is have a device that will translate pressure into surface area, something like a rubber thumb may be effective, the more weight the larger circle it "creates" on the touch screen, then scan the touch screen to see the current number of pixels being touched and translate that back to weight.
I imagine McGyver could do this with a paper clip ;-)
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Clever. I've seen that concept used before, but I'm not exactly sure where. It'd work, but accuracy would be an issue.
If someone can make this app, that would be awesome! Then I could do away with the scale in my bathroom, and weigh myself on my Touch, WTF?!
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If someone can make this app, that would be awesome! Then I could do away with the scale in my bathroom, and weigh myself on my Touch, WTF?!
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WOW! Thanks for the pointless post. If you dont understand the conversation then dont waste our time with your obviously simple narrow minded thoughts. You need to get out more.
It's to weigh things that only weigh a gram or so.
bryceschutte said:
WOW! Thanks for the pointless post. If you dont understand the conversation then dont waste our time with your obviously simple narrow minded thoughts. You need to get out more.
It's to weigh things that only weigh a gram or so.
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Sorry if I'm one of the many people that see using a PPC to weigh your drugs is the goofiest thing ever heard of !
By design the touch screen is a digital device, it measures on or off. It doesn't measure pressure.
If you want something precise there are many scales that use a serial port, all you'd need to do is interface the scale with bluetooth, there are probably some lab scales available that use bluetooth, haven't found from a quick search though.
it sounds like it would be near imposible to make it work
as the expanding rubber would have to be heavy enough
to activate the screen without any extra weight on and still expand
enough for preasure size to be measured without adding
more weight then the screen could handle without breaking
The thread is quite old but I think the original request is for scale rulers. i.e. for engineer to read an engineering drawings. Most plans are print out at an exact scale and it is a hassle to find the correct ruler for a particular scale. To have an app that can display a ruler at the edge of the screen at a particular scale saves a lot of time for an engineer to estimate a distance based on the drawing he's refering to.
Initial request...
Hi all
Just wondering if its at all possible to use the screens pressure sensor as a measuring surface? I guess it could measure light things up to 5 or so grams?
Stupid novelty I guess...
S
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Ok it seems there is a bit of interest for the ultimate urban tool that will give the HTC Diamond the street cred it deserves. Therefore I’ve decided to professionalize the thread as humorously as possible
Below are the application details and status
Executive Summary:
The ultimate urban tool that will use the built in pressure sensor of the HTC Diamond LCD Touch screen to measure the weight of light objects down to 0.1grams.
Names: (Please feel free to add some names, I’ll keep updating)
1) Diamond Crystal Display
2) DiamaWieght
3) Ice Ice Weighty
4) The real "G"Sensor
5) .... more to come...
Running total of bounty for developer = $240
Breakdown of possible donators
snoopyexec - $50
mastanthony89 - $15
jaapschaap - $15
killen - $75 (valid till midnight 19/10/08)
meccadon123 - .....
doinbox - $30
asadkhan1988 - $100
thatruth132 - $30
Progress = 0%
Potential Developers
thatruth132 (able to assist)
snoopyexec said:
Hi all
Just wondering if its at all possible to use the screens pressure sensor as a measuring surface? I guess it could measure light things up to 5 or so grams?
Stupid novelty I guess...
S
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lol ... I think i have an idea what you are going to measure that weighs about 5 grams or under...
hahaha i just thought it be a fun party trick...
btw... how much street cred would the diamond get with this app...
haha indeed
better by a bunch of screenprotectors then too
btw, I think it is possible...
Riel said:
haha indeed
better by a bunch of screenprotectors then too
btw, I think it is possible...
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If someone can whip this program out ill PayPal them $15...its easier then carrying my scale around and i cant get charged with intent to sell if i dont have my mini scale one me
Help me out
**** ill paypal 75 no lie to anyone who can make this happen this weekend!
Haha i will use it and paid money to... max 15 dollars (thats what's left on my paypal account). This will be the coolest app ever made And verry handy for on the streets indeed.
Then You will not need a digital weigh in your pocket for your street bussines
hmm, don't think of it as very useful... It could weigh from about 4 grams to maybe 40 grams, regarding the fact that the weight has to be concentrated at one point and not distrubuted over the surface. The fact that keeps me holding back is that the result from weighing someting over 100 grams could easily end op in a sound and screen effect not coming from the program (KKrraaack with the screen affect of shattered glass)
lol, thats a funny idea
it sounds like a funny idea but dont think it will work
because of the difference in screenprotectors - some screenprotectors are thicker so you need more pressure, some dont even use screenprotectors (like me... BIGGGG MISTAKE! when i wanted to apply my screenprotectir my screen was already scratched! so i left the protector off.. but now i have even MORE scratches.. but oh well..)
just test it, turn your clicking sound on for you screen and hold your stylus at the very top and drop the end on your screen, you'll notice that you will not get any feedback, so maybe just like hellboy said mabye t would work from 4 grams
and your screen! it would damage i think when putting someting above 500grams (maybe even with lower amount of grams)
it could be done..
it would be fairly easy FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS THE PATIENCE AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF SCRIPTING APPS!!
because there are apps already that show how much pressure you're appying on your screen and gives you feedback in color...<<< i think that part is easy because i think there will be some snippets from codes around the net that do that.. but i think the hard part>>> is programming the ammout of grams that is put on the screen..
Plz make this app so i can check if i am getting ripped off when i buy my medicine
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
doinbox said:
Plz make this app so i can check if i am getting ripped off when i buy my medicine
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The look on the pharmacy techs face when you place your medicine on your phone would be priceless by itself
It doesn't sound like he's buying his "medicine" at the pharmacy
chribruu said:
It doesn't sound like he's buying his "medicine" at the pharmacy
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It´s like I wrote before
what a great idea!! if you make it work, i will finally know what my car really weighs? Do you think that I can get the weight accurately by making use of the capacitativy wheel too? I hope that there are no bugs past the 1 ton limit, because some people complain HTC is using crappy hardware...
jees.
It would be useful for any jewelers who need to weigh stones and gold in small quantities, but the accuracy will need to be very very high for this kind of application.
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It would be useful for any jewelers who need to weigh stones and gold in small quantities, but the accuracy will need to be very very high for this kind of application.
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I don't think your gonna get this kind of accuracy from a touch screen, besides I don't even think it will work!
A touch screen works by having two charged membranes over the top of each other, as soon as these membranes make contact it allows a voltage to pass through it. So how hard you push will not mean the voltage is increased and therefore won't make a difference.
Would be a sweet app though!
I think its so hilarious how people are just so blindly ignorant that they still believe after being shown the evidence that the hd2 is capacitive. the pictures of the screen show the white grid of dots. this tech is ONLY USED ON RESISTIVE SCREENS!!! My IPHONE DOES NOT HAVE THESE!!! I CHECKED WITH A MICROSCOPE!!!! why cant people get that through their thick skulls!! i just read so many posts with people blurting out.. "..nope leo is capacitive.." and thats it!! like, who the heck are you?! where is your proof?! who says so? htc may be trying to fool you into believing the screen is capacitive! maybe the reason they can use finger tips is because the screen is like 5 FEET WIDE!! the close button is like a 1/4 OF AN INCH!! almost anything can hit that button without a stylus... i mean come on people are you that blind. pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaassssssssseeeeee look up how resistive touch screens work before you post an ignorant reply. multi-touch has already been proven on a resistive screen. so spare me the b/s about "it doesn't work" "not compatible" nonsense.
i hate it when people are wrong and just dont care to admit it.
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htc may be trying to fool you into believing the screen is capacitive!
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So you are saying that HTC is lying to everyone?
dwizzy130
I don't think it's safe to assume it's resistive based on the presence of dots. I'm no pro, but I don't think HTC would lie about something that can be tested so easily...ie whether or not you can use your fingernail or stylus. I've read that projected capacitive screens use grid like patterns too, maybe that's what you're seeing on the HD2...
i guess we will have to wait for it to come out, so we can test it with a stylus.
btw what is your source for all those details you mentioned... your microscope? and using your own questions.. who the heck are you?! where is your proof? wait till the sun comes up and I am sure you will get quite some **** in your face by people in this forum, for the "nice" language you've used
I am not positive here, but I think I remember reading somewhere awhile back that HTC had a patent submitted that would allow Multi Touch and Stylus input on the same screen. This may be the case with the Leo. If in fact the Leo is a Resistive screen, it may be possible to take the ability and apply it to our current generation devices or even older generations. I know that on my Imagio the sensitivity is very nice and pleasing and if it was possible to apply multi touch ability on top of that, I believe I would be in heaven. ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT CLAIMING THAT ANY OF MY INFORMATION IS COLD HARD FACTS JUST STATING WHAT I BELIEVE I REMEMBER READING.
i would prefer a resestive screen to be honest with you... Also iPhone and HD2 shouldn't necessarily have the same structure even though they might use same technology
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I think its so hilarious how people are just so blindly ignorant that they still believe after being shown the evidence that the hd2 is capacitive. the pictures of the screen show the white grid of dots. this tech is ONLY USED ON RESISTIVE SCREENS!!! My IPHONE DOES NOT HAVE THESE!!! I CHECKED WITH A MICROSCOPE!!!! why cant people get that through their thick skulls!! i just read so many posts with people blurting out.. "..nope leo is capacitive.." and thats it!! like, who the heck are you?! where is your proof?! who says so? htc may be trying to fool you into believing the screen is capacitive! maybe the reason they can use finger tips is because the screen is like 5 FEET WIDE!! the close button is like a 1/4 OF AN INCH!! almost anything can hit that button without a stylus... i mean come on people are you that blind. pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaassssssssseeeeee look up how resistive touch screens work before you post an ignorant reply. multi-touch has already been proven on a resistive screen. so spare me the b/s about "it doesn't work" "not compatible" nonsense.
i hate it when people are wrong and just dont care to admit it.
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Sounds like the ignorant post of a jealous person who went out to buy a fruit phone and then discovered that even the HD (not to mention the HD2) excretes all over the fruit phone!
We dont need a "MICROSCOPE" to prove it! and if we do need a "MICROSCOPE" to prove it then it is surely no big deal unless of course you like carrying a "MICROSCOPE" everywhere you go hahahaha.
The HD2 is confirmed as Capacitive and now if you're done moaning already I'd like get back to the real world and dont you have some Umpalumpa's to feed in that big white chocolate factory?
EDIT: I vote to close this thread and send a warning to the little Steve Jobs brown noser
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I think its so hilarious how people are just so blindly ignorant that they still believe after being shown the evidence that the hd2 is capacitive. the pictures of the screen show the white grid of dots. this tech is ONLY USED ON RESISTIVE SCREENS!!! My IPHONE DOES NOT HAVE THESE!!! I CHECKED WITH A MICROSCOPE!!!! why cant people get that through their thick skulls!! i just read so many posts with people blurting out.. "..nope leo is capacitive.." and thats it!! like, who the heck are you?! where is your proof?! who says so? htc may be trying to fool you into believing the screen is capacitive! maybe the reason they can use finger tips is because the screen is like 5 FEET WIDE!! the close button is like a 1/4 OF AN INCH!! almost anything can hit that button without a stylus... i mean come on people are you that blind. pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaassssssssseeeeee look up how resistive touch screens work before you post an ignorant reply. multi-touch has already been proven on a resistive screen. so spare me the b/s about "it doesn't work" "not compatible" nonsense.
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@ OP- Hell mate, before you take out the microscopes, telescopes and other instruments of deciding whether a screen is capacitive or resistive you should have taken the time to check HTC's website on this.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/hd2/specification.html
See the spot where it says Type: Capacitive touch screen?
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i hate it when people are wrong and just dont care to admit it.
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Hope you'll take the time and courage to admit your mistake now. I don't want you to hate yourself.
who the heck are you?! where is your proof? you post an ignorant reply. i hate it when people are wrong and just dont care to admit it.
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I agree, excellent self-analysis
The dots mean nothing, the screen is covered in glass THAT only works with capacitive screens.
Ok who left the door open at the crazy hospital???
Everyone will know when the HD2 comes out, which should be in a few weeks. There's no need for a thread of this nature.
Closed.
Dave
guys. it was pure JOY to be an owner of SE Xperia, but enough is enough. I just got another cracks so I've decided to let it go and got myself new htc hd2.
seriously, typing in landscape on it is not that bad and comparable speed/accuracy wise with that not so perfect x1 physical qwerty. btw... speed. snapdragon. do I need to say more?
anyway... I guess no x2 for me after what I've seen on videos. no n900 either, even if I was considering getting one. x2 is daaaamn tooo slooooooww (seems to stutter even more than x1) and n900 unfortunately is a one big bug and shortcoming.
wish me luck...
see You on other parts of the forum. bye...
BTW: anyone knows what've happened with orelsi?? I almost miss that crazy bugger always knowing better... maybe his xperia finally cracked and he commited seppuku?? lol
lol good luck with your hd2, im thinking of buying one myself as a second device
btw, i too was wondering what happened to orelsi lol, havent seen him around here for a while, let's hope he aint clocked out
Well always good luck with the device you wish beeing the best for you.
Capactive screen is like seppuku for me,
As for HD2.
Actually I wonder more and more often what will I do in the future.
Even considering that I'll get my X2, I assume capactive will become
a ****ing tendency soon.
In this case I don't imagine using TouchScreen anymore!
well there will be two of us ... i hate so much capacitive ... but there might be some explanation for this ... my hands get really wet often and touching with the sensitive part of my fingers and swaping around gives me the nerves so i always touch the screen with the nails or top finger ... and not to mention the stylus problem ... I hope there are more people who dislike this thing... Ive heard there are also screens hybrid ... capacitive and resistive screens around.
And what the hell ... I dont get it this finger typing is by default non precise how can you make objects so big that you can use only your finger in such a small screen ... Web pages are not so big and with buttons there are also links ...
This is all Iphone fault
the snapdragon really makes a big difference in the speed and performace compared to slow x1 doesnt it??
i too dumped my x1 for a snapdragon phone. the lower-profile acer s200. lol. (hd2 a tad too big for me).
now i can watch hq wmv videos with no stutter at all.
i was looking at that phone as a replacement but just cant afford a new one when the x1a is still fullfilling my needs.
good luck with that phone, looking forward to reading your xperience (pun intended) with the hd2. hopefully next year i will replace my x1a with the hd2 or maybe an hd2 pro in the future.
well... still here. waiting for hd2 (delivery on monday, great deal with o2).
do not get me wrong, as I am not trying to convert anyone to hd2, but this whole need for resistive screen and real qwerty is becoming less and less obvious for me.
capacitive screen, read - toughened glass, hard to scratch, forces companies like ms to improve ui on their systems. see... the only good uses for styli are handwriting (are You handwriting with Your mouse on a pc?) and drawing (again, are You so much better with drawing using mouse on a pc comparing to sketches made with finger on a capacitive touch screen??). imho multitouch is more important than stylus.
qwerty... well... again - do some tests as I did. spb keyboard 4.1.1 trial, landscape fullscreen with clicking sound for better typing feel. I couldn't believe my eyes, as it wasn't much slower (if it was at all) or less accurate.
all I'm going to miss is xperia's still shot quality. some pictures shot in daylight are comparable quality with real cameras, and not those ****ty ones.
... but hey. I won't have to convert videos anymore.
anyway... I will keep my x1 as a backup device and I'll come back in here to share my hd2perience from ex x1 user point of view.
btw, I am not beeing paid for it.
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well... still here. waiting for hd2 (delivery on monday, great deal with o2).
do not get me wrong, as I am not trying to convert anyone to hd2, but this whole need for resistive screen and real qwerty is becoming less and less obvious for me.
capacitive screen, read - toughened glass, hard to scratch, forces companies like ms to improve ui on their systems. see... the only good uses for styli are handwriting (are You handwriting with Your mouse on a pc?) and drawing (again, are You so much better with drawing using mouse on a pc comparing to sketches made with finger on a capacitive touch screen??). imho multitouch is more important than stylus.
qwerty... well... again - do some tests as I did. spb keyboard 4.1.1 trial, landscape fullscreen with clicking sound for better typing feel. I couldn't believe my eyes, as it wasn't much slower (if it was at all) or less accurate.
all I'm going to miss is xperia's still shot quality. some pictures shot in daylight are comparable quality with real cameras, and not those ****ty ones.
... but hey. I won't have to convert videos anymore.
anyway... I will keep my x1 as a backup device and I'll come back in here to share my hd2perience from ex x1 user point of view.
btw, I am not beeing paid for it.
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i am torn between the HD2 and the X2
X2 = slow and keyboard
HD2 = Fast and no keybard
But i am so tempted to get the HD2 - to be honest i cant ever see my self using like the tilewave etc on x2 >.<
yeah... spb ms 3.5.x and manila are mos def better option than panels. have You tried that test with onscreen keys that I mentioned above? this and a visit in local o2 shop to get the feel of it convinced me to give it a go.
the last thing I was worried about was the lack of d-pad, but... honestly I do not play games much. other thing is that with recently hacked multitouch api apps like fpsece could use it in the future for virtual onscreen pad.
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BTW: anyone knows what've happened with orelsi?? I almost miss that crazy bugger always knowing better... maybe his xperia finally cracked and he commited seppuku?? lol
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I think he bought a 3GS and is ashamed to show his face around here.
lol... You actually may be right
WhyBe said:
I think he bought a 3GS and is ashamed to show his face around here.
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that would be really funny if it were true.
I think I might upgrade to a N900 after I save enough money - the X1's reception issue is a nightmare, even after testing 8 radio versions. At least with Nokia there is assurance of reception quality - what use is a smartphone if I can't even access 3G?! Or any thing except for WiFi, for that matter. Reception is sporadic at best, and at worse it doesn't even pick up a signal but my Nokia does display full signal strength...
bronx said:
BTW: anyone knows what've happened with orelsi?? I almost miss that crazy bugger always knowing better... maybe his xperia finally cracked and he commited seppuku?? lol
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I think he got 3 crack,
informatico said:
well there will be two of us ... i hate so much capacitive ... but there might be some explanation for this ... my hands get really wet often and touching with the sensitive part of my fingers and swaping around gives me the nerves so i always touch the screen with the nails or top finger ... and not to mention the stylus problem ... I hope there are more people who dislike this thing... Ive heard there are also screens hybrid ... capacitive and resistive screens around.
And what the hell ... I dont get it this finger typing is by default non precise how can you make objects so big that you can use only your finger in such a small screen ... Web pages are not so big and with buttons there are also links ...
This is all Iphone fault
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Well exactly my points.
I am not sure why everyone so upset with X1, except for kinda wimpy 7200 chip.
I like keyboard, and don't really care about resistive or capacitive touchscreen. I am fine with either.
The one thing I don't use that much, but I am certain I would greatly miss is the physical keyboard. I don't think I am going to switch until there is a full keyboard on a snapdragon.
The cracks that everyone complains about are really just a cosmetic issue, and I don't really care too much about it (although I did re-shell my phone to make it black).
It is always kind of interesting to me the various types of devices that people decide to get and why. For the most part I understand each individuals reasoning, but I am yet to be swayed that there is a better device for me.
If anyone knows of a full QWERTY hardware keyboard unit with a snapdragon that is on the horizon PLEASE let me know.
Also, I miss Orelsi in a weird way. I suppose it was just his belligerent insistence on his perspective. I bet he got an iPhone too,
EDIT: I forgot about one thing that greatly aggravated me (although I had same problem on Kaiser) was that the keyboard goes bad and needs cleaning. Because of that I reshelled because I figured if I am gonna tear it apart anyway I might as well make it look like new.
Hannigan174 said:
If anyone knows of a full QWERTY hardware keyboard unit with a snapdragon that is on the horizon PLEASE let me know.
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actually there's one announced quite recently,LG eXpo GW820, 1 Ghz+qwerty,plus finger print security and a detachable projector as an optional accessory. it was initially announced for the american market and didnt mention european market,so we shall wait n see.
you might also want to keep an eye on toshiba n Acer as well,since they both got on the 1 Ghz ladder pretty early but havent make it go with qwerty yet.
btw,I am on the same boat with you, just want a decent processor with qwerty win mobile, not fussy about how advanced the bloody touch screen is going to be whatsoever...
bronx said:
BTW: anyone knows what've happened with orelsi?? I almost miss that crazy bugger always knowing better... maybe his xperia finally cracked and he commited seppuku?? lol
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he said he was using his phone to get on the net as his pc broke, i bet his x1 broke (cracked) so he cant get on the net anymore lol
ok guys. I just got it.
wow... that's all I can say. all You nonbelievers go to Your local mobile phone stores to have a look. bit too large, but I'll get used to it. speed... omg, I never knew that winmo can be that snappy. it's so iphone 3gs fast and smooth that I think I'll jizz in my pants. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4)
one last thing, try it, and forget about anything other than snapdragon. seriously.
johhn said:
actually there's one announced quite recently,LG eXpo GW820, 1 Ghz+qwerty,plus finger print security and a detachable projector as an optional accessory. it was initially announced for the american market and didnt mention european market,so we shall wait n see.
you might also want to keep an eye on toshiba n Acer as well,since they both got on the 1 Ghz ladder pretty early but havent make it go with qwerty yet.
btw,I am on the same boat with you, just want a decent processor with qwerty win mobile, not fussy about how advanced the bloody touch screen is going to be whatsoever...
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Yeah, actually I knew of that, but I am afraid of leaving XDA, so I guess I meant an HTC-based device with physical QWERTY and snapdragon
Nothing in particular against LG, but I am not sure I want to deal with their ugly iPhone-like interface.