Ive used WMP and TCPMP.72 RCO (not sure if thats the name), but for some reason it is still selective over the videos it plays. I managed to get a video 183 mb working fine but other videos in its range wont, while some play sounds with no video. Why is that? is there a limit to the video's quality or size?
I posted this in the XDA general area but put it here incase it had something to do with it being a Wing...any comments on how this can be fixed would be appreciated thanks
Freshumz said:
Ive used WMP and TCPMP.72 RCO (not sure if thats the name), but for some reason it is still selective over the videos it plays. I managed to get a video 183 mb working fine but other videos in its range wont, while some play sounds with no video. Why is that? is there a limit to the video's quality or size?
I posted this in the XDA general area but put it here incase it had something to do with it being a Wing...any comments on how this can be fixed would be appreciated thanks
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To play video on your wing you must convert all video to .3GP format with the following video settings.
320x240 @ 15fps
Actually that is incorrect. The wing will play video files in wmv, mpg, and 3gp through windows media player. TCPMP (The core pocket media player) can play files in avi. I use either Spb mobile dvd or Super to convert my videos. Super has a "convert to avi for pocket pc" option and then you can experiment and tweak it to your liking.
Lots of people still confused and still looking for a solution, I believe.
In the next 5 mins tutorial, you will squeeze the best out of a good old WMP by doing the following;
Code:
WIth this method, you will get much better quality MP4 video compare to FLV video which you need to open with CorePlayer.
1. First, Install the SD TuneUp.
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130286&d=1226827760
Credit: tnyynt
2. Use "AimerSoft Video Converter"
Code:
http://www.aimersoft.com/video-converter.html
Why?
Some says "Super Converter" is the best bcuz of its performance and its free but here come the new champion, AimerSoft Video Converter.
Let me explain..
Code:
With WMP u need to convert the file in H.264 for the best result.
So, "Super" can do that with 80-90% output quality after converted.
"AimerSoft" will do it with 97-100% output quality after converted.
In conclusion, if u convert 720p, 30 mins length video by "Super" u will more likely to see frame dropping in every 10 min.
With "AimerSoft", u may see it once in a whole clip or not at all.
3. Fire up "AimerSoft" then add your video clip.
4. At "Profile" drop down menu choose "MPEG-4 Movie (*.mp4)"
5. Click "Setting" at the right hand side and adjust as the following;
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Resolution: 800*480 (You can type it in if u cant find it)
Frame Rate: 23.97 FPS
Encoder: H.264
Bit Rate: 1500 kbps (Trust me, WMP can handle this bit rate)
**Bit Rate Tip**:
Bit rate is the the most tricky part of converting process so u have to b careful on how u choose a proper bit rate.
Here's how u do it;
If the video has a native resolution [COLOR="Red"]lesser[/COLOR] than 800*480 u can go for [COLOR="Red"]1500 kbps[/COLOR].
If the video has a native resolution [COLOR="Red"]greater[/COLOR] than 800*480 u must choose [COLOR="Red"]900 kbps[/COLOR].
Audio: 44100 Hz 2 Channels Stereo
Encoder: AAC
Bit Rate 128 kbps
6. Click "save As", name "WMP for Touch HD" for next use. (You can name the profile as anything u like)
7. Choose your video output folder.
8. Click start and chill out. ^^
The Pros:
- You dont have to pay for CorePlayer.
- You get much much sharper quality video and very minimum frame dropping. (Download the sample files I provide below and judge for yourself)
- Less hassle and user friendly.
- With "AimerSoft", when u set resolution to 800*480, the bigger resolution will be re-sized, the smaller resolution video will remain as the original but "AimerSoft" will automatically put a frame around the clip so the video will maintain 16:9 aspect ratio.
The Cons:
- You got to pay for "AimerSoft" instead. lolz (About the same price)
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This is the sample video converted by AimerSoft useing the exact setting as I describe above.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169145053/Empire_Of_The_Sun_-_Walking_On_A_Dream.mp4
Note: You may put this clip into your SD Card and play with WMP straight away.
Another sample video shot from Touch Diamond showing 3 clips with WMP.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169196260/VIDEO_005.mp4
Note: This file is for playing with VLC Media Player on PC only and you will have no sound. Sorry about that >_<
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NOTE: I am not a "AimerSoft" representative by any mean.
I am not paid by "AimorSoft" to convince you to buy their product in any way.
I am just a sick and bored man who want to relax by watching a good quality video clips on the phone when im at workP) or traveling and wanted to share the information to people who looking for the solution.
Thank you everybody who help and contribute to this forum especially "tnyynt".
Please give credit to me if you want to spread out this tutorial anywhere else.
Thank You and Enjoy watching!
Vosszaa
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446366
You can view the original post by "tnyynt" here.
Here you go. I made another sample video just to prove my concept.
In this video I use the 77Mb file size, 720p trailer of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" downloaded directly from Apple Trailer with 1280*554 native resolution with top and bottom black boarder.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169445296/earthstoodstill_720p_1500kbps.mp4
Details: Converted by [COLOR="Red"]AimerSoft[/COLOR], [COLOR="Red"]800*480[/COLOR] resolution, [COLOR="Red"]1500 kbps[/COLOR], 23.976 fps, H.264 in MP4 format.
You may put this video on to your SD card and play with WMP straight away.
Note: As u can see there is a lag at the beginning and a little towards the end of the movie which i believe its cause by video buffering and data transfer rate of SD Card.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/169449637/earthstoodstill_720p_900kbps.mp4
This is the same video but converted with [COLOR="Red"]900 kbps[/COLOR] to reduce lag which indeed improve about 10%.
And with the same file but converted in FLV format and need to play with CorePlayer.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169445836/earthstoodstill-tlre_720p.mov.FLV
Details: Converted by [COLOR="Red"]SuperConverter[/COLOR], [COLOR="Red"]560*304[/COLOR] resolution, [COLOR="Red"]1200 kbps[/COLOR], 23.976 fps (best setting for CorePlayer as suggested by "tnyynt")
Note: I have to admit that the frame rate is very smooth but really lack in details and sharpness of the video.
Conclusion:
With MP4 format by AimerSoft I have a crisp sharp video but a little suffer from frame dropping.
With FLV format by SuperConverter I have a very smooth frame rate but lag in details and sharpness.
If u ask me, i prefer to suffer a little frame drop to have a very crisp clear and sharp picture rather than smooth frame rate.
Enuff for bla bla bla.. just download and try for yourself.
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Another 1500kbps video I converted by AimerSoft.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174535773/Jojo_-_How_To_Touch_A_Girl.mp4
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Thank you very much for this useful Tut!! I'll try this out, for sure^^ and really thank you, a very clear, step by step tutorial for perfect video converting, thats great!!! Greez, cad^^
This is a great forum and I truly appreciate the selfless contributions of the many members, like you. Normally, I can get everything I need just by searching the forum. However, I have a problem and I am not sure if it is unique to me. I can’t get wmp to read mp4 files, even though they were created in the manner you just described. My mp4 files are readable using the native player. Any ideas why wmp won't read them?
willwwa said:
This is a great forum and I truly appreciate the selfless contributions of the many members, like you. Normally, I can get everything I need just by searching the forum. However, I have a problem and I am not sure if it is unique to me. I can’t get wmp to read mp4 files, even though they were created in the manner you just described. My mp4 files are readable using the native player. Any ideas why wmp won't read them?
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WMP wont play your converted mp4 file or it wont play any mp4 files at all?
If WMP dont play just the converted file mayb its the converting process issue.
Just try download the sample video i provided. let c if it play.
If not, i guess its the WMP issue.. u need to reinstall WMP mayb.
What software u use to convert the video? Super or AimerSoft?
vosszaa said:
WMP wont play your converted mp4 file or it wont play any mp4 files at all?
If WMP dont play just the converted file mayb its the converting process issue.
Just try download the sample video i provided. let c if it play.
If not, i guess its the WMP issue.. u need to reinstall WMP mayb.
What software u use to convert the video? Super or AimerSoft?
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I used Aimersoft to convert the video. I finally got it to play. I had to download an H264 codec from an obscure site. Now, the video plays fantastically. I think WMP may have gotten corrupted from my trying out so many different brands of media players.
Again, thanks for the fix. Keep up the good work.
No problem mate. Glad that my TUT help sumbody.
I also noticed that MP4 with H.264 CABAC profile ON dosn't work with WMP
you have to be sure to turn it off to BaseLine
These options are in Super , don't know if VDO has something similar
by the way its in the other thread too,
but you can have a look at the quality using SUPER with this video clip
I don't have the Aimersoft to test the quality but SUPER does a good job converting to MP4,
but it can take several hours for a 8 Gb 1080 file
CABAC profile is set to off by default so that's why i didnt mention about that.
About comparing Super and AimerSoft i dont want to say much cuz i dont wanna course any flame war here and I know lots of people use Super too. (I have both anyway)
NOTE: I recommend AimerSoft Suite cuz it do a lot more than just a converter.
So, what i mainly do with my HD is to watch Music Video and Movie Trailers just to show my friends at work. And since MV and Trailers both are not a huge file so what i normally do is convert the same files with both Super and AimerSoft then play it and compare which one is better to keep.
I know mayb its a waste of time but thats the way i do. ^^
NOTE: It turns out, personally, AimerSoft beats Super by 9:1
NOTE 2: With Step Up 2 movie(its divx dvd-rip 780mb convert done in 1hr 20mins) I just pick AimerSoft to do the job and it was fine like i said apart from the laggy at first 2-3 mins tho.
willwwa said:
I used Aimersoft to convert the video. I finally got it to play. I had to download an H264 codec from an obscure site. Now, the video plays fantastically. I think WMP may have gotten corrupted from my trying out so many different brands of media players.
Again, thanks for the fix. Keep up the good work.
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Don't suppose you can remember where you got that codec? I have the same issue and have been googling for ages without any luck, must be getting late
Many thanks
U can get K-lite codec pack easily by google it, after u install that i recommend u to install CoreAVC pack as well. It improve H.264 and it comes with Haali Media Splitter too.
NOTE: PM me if u cant find them.
Urrrgh, don't use codec packs, they're notorious for screwing up machines.
i have codec pack install in my pc and it doesnt screw anything tho.
can u xplain how it screw your machine?
thank god for multicore processing or this would pretty much make the computer useless for however long it took for the conversion.
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U can get K-lite codec pack easily by google it, after u install that i recommend u to install CoreAVC pack as well. It improve H.264 and it comes with Haali Media Splitter too.
NOTE: PM me if u cant find them.
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Vosszaa
Thanks for the response. I think I may have got my wires crossed here. I can get the MP4 to play on WMP on my PC but your sample "Empire_Of_The_Sun_-_Walking_On_A_Dream.mp4" wont play on my HD. It will only open in Album or Coreplayer (although it doesn't play properly). I thought there was an additional codec to get my HD to play the file
This is strange, maybe I will need to do a hard reset already??? No doubt the first of many
Now that is really weird.
Do u have any error log/msg pop up when u try to play it?
Any strange thing happen at all?(such as loading icon appear)
Or its just nothing with black screen?
Q. "I thought there was an additional codec to get my HD to play the file."
A. I dont think u need to install any additional codec to your HD. (I didnt install any extra.)
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Keep this a try >> http://rapidshare.com/files/171066422/h264.cab << Install it and let c if it play. if it doesnt, just uninstall it and do a hard reset.
Tell me if it works.
Vosszaa
The message I get from WMP is "Cannot play this file" andf thats it??? I will give that cab a spin and report back.
I tried a Madonna 4 Minutes MP4 video thats been posted on the forum to play on WMP as well and I get the same.
Just had a thought, are people syncing the files to their phones using WMP on the PC??? I am just copying the videos to my SD card manually. Does that make a difference??
I've never really used WMP on any of my WM devices, I've only used Beta Player, TCPMP or Coreplayer. Hopefully Coreplayer will have a release soon with full support for the HD chipset then none of this conversion will be necessary.
I just copy and paste by using Windows Explorer. It make no difference.
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Don't suppose you can remember where you got that codec? I have the same issue and have been googling for ages without any luck, must be getting late
Many thanks
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I found a cab on the htcdriver.com site. Here is the download link:
www.htcdriver.com/downloads/install/h264codecHTCdriver.com.cab
O.k tried the CAB's still no joy. Will get all my must have CAB's together either tonight or tomorrow and do a hard reset. Then report back.
Would have done it already but the lurgy is making around my home town and I feel like death!
Hi, I've recorded few clips in H.264 mode and I've had the surprise that I can't play it on the phone or on the PC, with any video player. Does anyone have a solution?
I also have this issue, not even coreplayer plays the files.
What did you use to record them?
What settings did you use while recording them?
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What did you use to record them?
What settings did you use while recording them?
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Hi rp-x1,
I just used the default HTC camcorder app using the H.264 capture format in the options.
The PC seems to think they're in 3gp format though, the file size would suggest so also but still strange that Coreplayer can't play them.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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What did you use to record them?
What settings did you use while recording them?
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I used the camera from my HTC HD2 in H.264 mode, CIF resolution. I attach one of the files.
Anyone can help?
i just tried the h.264 mode myself. then when i want to play it, the phone says "loading", but nothing happens. i downloaded your file, not even vlc can play the files.
also, gspot cannot recognize the codecs used:
Admittedly it was a long shot but I just tried to convert the supposed .3g2 file into a playable format with Oxelon Media Convertor but even with the .3g2 plugin the file was 'unsupported'.
My guess is that this isn't the actual format of the file and that I've lost all recordings in that format.
So, there is any solution? I've lost my clips recorded in this format?
I thought that at least the one who posted the soft to unlock aditional recording formats will find a solution.
I was curious if anyone knows how to change or if an app exists for the hd video to record other than 3gp??
You lost me on that post.
Do you mean record TO the phone or play OFF the phone. I don't know what 3gp is...
If you mean record, you can decrease video size in the camcorder settings.
~SB
OP is trying to ask if it is possible to record HD video in a format other than .3GP
It will be awesome if someone can mod the Vibrant to record HD Video in Divx/Xvid format or H264/MP4 format. Wishful thinking..
After the JI6 update, the camcorder will shoot and save the videos in the mp4 format.
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After the JI6 update, the camcorder will shoot and save the videos in the mp4 format.
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Which is still dumb cause I have put a movie on my phone in mp4 format and it wouldnt play it.