This is not a 2.1 speculation thread, I just thought I'd ask it here with all that knowledge floating around.
WHEN (May 7th?) the 2.1 update is OFFICIALLY dropped, will rooted users be pushed the update? Or will it only go out to models registered as running 1.56.
ASSUMING one might want to upgrade and that push comes, you guys think updating might cause any harm to the phone? I'm thinking 1.56RUU..
I don't think I will partake in the official release, I can't imagine it being any better then what I have now, and what will come after that official release is dropped, however I have had this question for a while. So what do you guys think?
I don't think they can actually push a OTW update.....
barnacles10 said:
This is not a 2.1 speculation thread, I just thought I'd ask it here with all that knowledge floating around.
WHEN (May 7th?) the 2.1 update is OFFICIALLY dropped, will rooted users be pushed the update? Or will it only go out to models registered as running 1.56.
ASSUMING one might want to upgrade and that push comes, you guys think updating might cause any harm to the phone? I'm thinking 1.56RUU..
I don't think I will partake in the official release, I can't imagine it being any better then what I have now, and what will come after that official release is dropped, however I have had this question for a while. So what do you guys think?
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It is not going to be OTA. It will not matter if you are running custom whatever or stock.
If you run the ruu.exe it will load the official 2.1 release on your phone. The only reason it may not work would be if you ran the 2.1 test ruu.exe and for some reason the official release's hboot is lower than 1.47.000 (the hboot that came with the test release).
Other potential nasty side effects you could get with your official release:
No root
Possibly never be able to root again, or at least stuck with no root until a new work around is found. This fully depends on whether old method is patched.
No custom recovery, no custom roms, no ability to flash .zips from recovery. This goes along with the lack of root.
Inability to run 1.56 ruu ever again due to updated hboot.
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It is not going to be OTA. It will not matter if you are running custom whatever or stock.
If you run the ruu.exe it will load the official 2.1 release on your phone. The only reason it may not work would be if you ran the 2.1 test ruu.exe and for some reason the official release's hboot is lower than 1.47.000 (the hboot that came with the test release).
Other nasty side effects you could get with your official release:
No root
Possibly never be able to root again, or at least stuck with no root until a new work around is found.
No custom recovery, no custom roms, no ability to flash .zips from recovery. This goes along with the lack of root.
Inability to run 1.56 ruu ever again due to updated hboot.
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Couldn't have said it better myself! I would just suggest waiting until the cook of your preference updates his to include items from the official release.
And the single most important reason: No nandroid. Having a point in time backup is insanely important to me. If I ever have to return my phone and get a refurb, it's nice to know I've got a nandroid that will get me right back to where I was before I turned in my phone.
It won't be OTA as I have read in more than one place that Sprint limits OTA updates to 9MB. Since this will be close to or over 100MB it's going to be OTW.
I for one will not be updating to it. My phone is working perfectly as is and this would give me no additional functionality so why bother?
As for the whole rooting issue, I wish folks wouldn't be so scared of the new hboot. I used the RUU and I have custom recovery and can flash any ROM I want. Yes, I know the leaked RUU had root already, but I rerooted it properly and installed busybox and all that so I could use the phone how I wanted.
Anyway, sorry to get sidetracked there, my comment about being so scared of the new hboot is simply this...There is no way the new version will not be rooted sooner or later. Obviously Sprint and HTC would like us to not be able to root any phones but someone always finds a way. There is no way that the new firmware will not be rooted sooner or later. Just like how the Evo will get rooted, as will any newer phone released after it. It is inevitable that someone will figure it out especially with all the talented and experienced folks here working on it as soon as it's released.
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It won't be OTA as I have read in more than one place that Sprint limits OTA updates to 9MB. Since this will be close to or over 100MB it's going to be OTW.
I for one will not be updating to it. My phone is working perfectly as is and this would give me no additional functionality so why bother?
As for the whole rooting issue, I wish folks wouldn't be so scared of the new hboot. I used the RUU and I have custom recovery and can flash any ROM I want. Yes, I know the leaked RUU had root already, but I rerooted it properly and installed busybox and all that so I could use the phone how I wanted.
Anyway, sorry to get sidetracked there, my comment about being so scared of the new hboot is simply this...There is no way the new version will not be rooted sooner or later. Obviously Sprint and HTC would like us to not be able to root any phones but someone always finds a way. There is no way that the new firmware will not be rooted sooner or later. Just like how the Evo will get rooted, as will any newer phone released after it. It is inevitable that someone will figure it out especially with all the talented and experienced folks here working on it as soon as it's released.
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One big disadvantage/advantage in our case, is that Linux is open source. Anyone who wants to find a root exploit, and is smart enough has the ability to find out where there is potential code to allow for one. So you are correct, my assumption is that we will find a root for it one day. BUT I do think that if the EVO drops soon after, all of the talent that can find one will be on it. Then again, some people are of the mind set "Leave no device un hacked" and it would bother people if they knew we didn't have root LOL
Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't we be able to simply use an older RUU (1.52, etc) to get the phone rootable again?
My intention was going to be to try out the new stock RUU for a bit, then re-flash with an older RUU, get root and RA recovery back on, then go back to Fresh Toast. Will this not be possible?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't we be able to simply use an older RUU (1.52, etc) to get the phone rootable again?
My intention was going to be to try out the new stock RUU for a bit, then re-flash with an older RUU, get root and RA recovery back on, then go back to Fresh Toast. Will this not be possible?
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Not possible if the Hboot updates, which it probably will. Those here who tried the test leak 2.1 ruu.exe were unable to run the 1.56 ruu after.
There is an alternative to restore everything except the hboot from the 1.56 ruu here, but you cannot simply run the .exe. This method won't work if the official build has patched the ability to gain root (you won't be able to nandroid). In that case you will be stuck with official 2.1 only.
BTW, speaking from experience with the test build, ruu, hboot, etc.
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One big disadvantage/advantage in our case, is that Linux is open source. Anyone who wants to find a root exploit, and is smart enough has the ability to find out where there is potential code to allow for one. So you are correct, my assumption is that we will find a root for it one day. BUT I do think that if the EVO drops soon after, all of the talent that can find one will be on it. Then again, some people are of the mind set "Leave no device un hacked" and it would bother people if they knew we didn't have root LOL
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Open source is never a disadvantage. Ever.
Good to know, would've been awful to have to wait for new root hack just because I tried the new and shiny!
Guess I will sit back and wait for dev magic before I jump the gun.
Sawawa said:
Open source is never a disadvantage. Ever.
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Mater of semantics, politics, and Ideaologies.
Google has a half belief here, they like open, but they protect that damn search algorithim like its a sacred scripture - Last count I think 8 people on earth knew exactly how it worked.
So the disadvantage to google would be ungodly competition if it was released. Proprietary stuff is a win if you look for profits. Again...depends on which side of the spectrum you are on. Points can be argued either way.
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It won't be OTA as I have read in more than one place that Sprint limits OTA updates to 9MB. Since this will be close to or over 100MB it's going to be OTW.
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I think the OP is asking about an OTA 'notification' that the official update is available. If so then yes, everyone with a Hero will get a text message regardless of what rom we have installed.
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I think the OP is asking about an OTA 'notification' that the official update is available. If so then yes, everyone with a Hero will get a text message regardless of what rom we have installed.
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THAT BETTER NOT COUNT AGAINST MY TEXT LIMIT!!!!
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THAT BETTER NOT COUNT AGAINST MY TEXT LIMIT!!!!
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ROFL. . . you don't have unlimited text?
lol I would hope having a hero you would have unlimited data and texts
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yeah, but I still keep track of them. Habitual addiction to knowing everything LOL.
yeah, but I still keep track of them. Habitual addiction to knowing everything LOL.
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lol! that's great.. ever since sprint gave us that free mobile to mobile in any network I do not bother checking minutes or texts. unless my bill changes.
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One big disadvantage/advantage in our case, is that Linux is open source. Anyone who wants to find a root exploit, and is smart enough has the ability to find out where there is potential code to allow for one.
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Why is it that people still think open source means insecure? I don't claim to know how previous rooting techniques exploit Android, but I do know that 2 Linux distros have a higher government security rating than any other operating system. I assume most weaknesses in android have to do with the recovery and/or update code, which has nothing to do with Linux.
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It IS when HTC bogards it from us and hordes it like cookie monster does cookies. I thought open source meant OPEN SOURCE. Ahh, who knows i probably misunderstood the whole concept
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Seems alot of this "everyone will unroot for 2.1" vs. "no one will unroot for 2.1" arguments is going on. Personally, I'd say you'd have to be a fool to unroot for 2.1. Toast has about everything but the camera working, Darch is getting an AOSP built. Even if Sprint DOES release it first, XDA will have custom ROMs up within 24 hours.
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Yes, I made a typo on the poll.
Probably, assuming I can use one of the 1.5 RUUs to go back.
On another note, I anticipate that once the official 2.1 is released, all of the current 2.1 builds will basically dissolve and, eventually, all future development will be based on the official 2.1 release.
That's just a guess, but I think it's a good one.
Nandroid muthafucka, can you use it?
Using RA to go back to 1.5 and then doing the RUU is the only way I've gotten it to work.
Get an "Error 180" otherwise.
I'm assuming that the 2.1 update will overwrite RA the way the 1.5 RUU does.
If it doesn't, then of course restoring a Nandroid directly will be sufficient. If it does, then I'll need to go back to the 1.5 RUU, then root, then apply the backup.
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Seems alot of this "everyone will unroot for 2.1" vs. "no one will unroot for 2.1" arguments is going on. Personally, I'd say you'd have to be a fool to unroot for 2.1. Toast has about everything but the camera working, Darch is getting an AOSP built. Even if Sprint DOES release it first, XDA will have custom ROMs up within 24 hours.
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First things first, I think the answer mostly depends on if someone tries it and reports whether they can root again afterwards or not.
If so, I believe many will unroot and upgrade.
If not, I doubt anyone here will do it.
Secondly, Toast's 2.1 build, while great(I use it daily) is not even close to the final 2.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elDD2mxE4ak
^^ Something a bit more like what we will have
Ah crap, I thought you meant you'd keep root.
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I'm assuming that the 2.1 update will overwrite RA the way the 1.5 RUU does.
If it doesn't, then of course restoring a Nandroid directly will be sufficient. If it does, then I'll need to go back to the 1.5 RUU, then root, then apply the backup.
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Potential problem being you may not be able to go back to the 1.5 RUU.
For example, if you flash Sprint's second RUU that was released, you are then unable to flash the original one.
So it may end up being you cannot go back to 1.5. Not sure how likely this is though due to the operating system version change, they may allow you to go back because some users may not like it(for some reason )
No, here at XDA some cool guy will probably make a better ROM based on 2.1
I agree that I will probably wait to see if someone can still root after the update if yes then I will probably go back and update then root again. if not then I will wait for one of the great devs here to release a rom built off the official 2.1 so I can keep root
You'd be a fool to unroot for 2.1. After you unroot, it might take weeks, months, or years to find a new exploit to root again. I say keep root and wait until our awesome devs have a rooted version up
I might unroot, but then again I don't want to wait for a root exploit ...
so I might stay rooted and wait for the devs to come out with a nice suitable ROM ...
I'm gonna wait for an root exploit before locking my phone down again with the 2.1 official. Then i'll probably try the official 2.1, not like it, and go back to an XDA 2.1
I give it about 72 hours before my curiosity gets the better of me, but only if there isn't already a viable 2.1 release here.
unroot
I would unroot for the update, simply because i have so much faith in the dev community. Im sure they will be able to root it again.
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I would unroot for the update, simply because i have so much faith in the dev community. Im sure they will be able to root it again.
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You love the dev community, yet you'll unroot in hopes they'll be able to root it?
Why not just wait for them to put up a custom ROM and keep root? I really doubt it'll take longer than a few hours, maybe a day to put out a fully working ROM
Well, i didnt say i wouldnt give them time either, ill wait about 2 or 3 days for them to make a custom rom, but i am so damn excited about the update i really am feeling like i am getting the short stick with the cdma hero on sprint. honestly the update needs to come asap.
why would anyone unroot to update? it would only take ten minutes to extract their build and just make an update.zip out of it. u flash it and its as good as sprints ruu. even better because u wont have to worry about root or upgrading to the next android version. lets not forget 2.1 isnt the end of the road for android. as soon as they start releasing updates for it. u can bet they are already working on the next build of android. but yeah i wouldnt unroot for the update. ill just get it, exstact it, make an update zip, and flash that sucker. then go back and tear it apart and start adding all the stuff sprint was to cheap or to dumb to add while removing all the bull they did add. i bet it wont take but an hour before an update.zip hits the forum after sprint releases it.
NOT going to unroot i love the custom roms
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why would anyone unroot to update? it would only take ten minutes to extract their build and just make an update.zip out of it. u flash it and its as good as sprints ruu. even better because u wont have to worry about root or upgrading to the next android version. lets not forget 2.1 isnt the end of the road for android. as soon as they start releasing updates for it. u can bet they are already working on the next build of android. but yeah i wouldnt unroot for the update. ill just get it, exstact it, make an update zip, and flash that sucker. then go back and tear it apart and start adding all the stuff sprint was to cheap or to dumb to add while removing all the bull they did add. i bet it wont take but an hour before an update.zip hits the forum after sprint releases it.
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QFMFT!
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I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread regarding everything that's going to happen regarding Sprint's official 2.1 update, including steps we should take if we want to use it, and what the consequences will be. I'm not an expert on these things, but there are lots of people here who are, and centralizing that information will probably be very helpful to lots of folks once this update is rolled out.
For starters, what will we have to do if we want to install the update? wipe, restore nandroid backup, receive OTA update?
Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
Thirdly, will there be any real advantage to installing the official sprint update?
If anyone has any answers to these questions, or wants to ask other questions, or has any other pertinent information on what this 2.1 update process will entail, please post it here so we can all learn. Thanks!
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Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
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Not that I'm aware of. Nor is it clear that we will be able to root the same way as we did the 1.5.
ASULutzy said:
I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread regarding everything that's going to happen regarding Sprint's official 2.1 update, including steps we should take if we want to use it, and what the consequences will be. I'm not an expert on these things, but there are lots of people here who are, and centralizing that information will probably be very helpful to lots of folks once this update is rolled out.
For starters, what will we have to do if we want to install the update? wipe, restore nandroid backup, receive OTA update?
Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
Thirdly, will there be any real advantage to installing the official sprint update?
If anyone has any answers to these questions, or wants to ask other questions, or has any other pertinent information on what this 2.1 update process will entail, please post it here so we can all learn. Thanks!
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1. The update might wipe your phone. Expected to be OTA.
2. Nobody but Sprint knows if the root exploit is patched. Wait for release, dont update right away, wait for confirmation of root.
3. The way I see it, the only benefit is that 2.1 ROMs will have everything working "officially". Sprint stock ROMs are full of crapware.
just wait till it realeased and your questions will be answered no one knows what the updates going to do or included in it
Regarding whether or not the same root exploit will work, I'm not a real expert on phone development or Android, but I am a software engineer and a real Linux nerd.
Presumably the 2.1 images will also include a much newer kernel that has long since patched that old fs pipe exploit. But who knows, maybe they won't. Either way, there are always occasional local root exploits found within the linux kernel, so it would just be a matter of time.
The way I see it is the Eris users finally have root on 1.5 but whoever updated to the leaked 2.1 can't get root... If Eris = Hero, 2.1 < 1.5. Hahh.
Kinda off-topic here, but the OP needs to fix the title of the thread. If you go into the OP, hit Edit, then hit Advanced Edit, you can change it
Root can only take so long. Once the source is released there's no way to stop people from baking an AOSP with root.
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Kinda off-topic here, but the OP needs to fix the title of the thread. If you go into the OP, hit Edit, then hit Advanced Edit, you can change it
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Thanks! lol, I thought it would be under advanced thread tools and when it wasn't I gave up looking
Once we get a ruu of the stock upgrade we should be able to extract the necessary files to make a full update.zip of the stock rom with root already applied. So if you dont want to lose root access then don't jump the gun when the update Goes official.
The only thing that I seem to be missing with Damagecontrol is certain webpages refuse to load. 99% of the webpages I access work fine. AFAIK all other features function 100% and I've had BETTER battery life after flashing this with the updated PRL.
I have a feeling it'll be a while before I finally migrate to a ROM based on the official build being that I'm so satisfied with this one.
You can take this with a grain of salt. I just finished a chat with a sprint tech using the chat feature on their site. This person said that the update will be OTA and that there was no specified date yet.
"It will be OTA. We are actively working on having the Android 2.1 platform available to our Hero and Moment customers over the coming weeks. However, there is no fixed date has been mentioned here."
So if this tech has the correct info then I doubt the 26th of March is going to be the date as some have stated. But this person may not have access to everything that is why I say take it with a grain of salt.
Just updated to 2.1 OTA. Not bad, kind of sluggish, but to be expected from an official version.
............yeah no. So much for March eh?
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Just updated to 2.1 OTA. Not bad, kind of sluggish, but to be expected from an official version.
............yeah no. So much for March eh?
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march isn't over yet.
....i say more like april or may tbh. i heard the nexus launch might be in june so it makes sense to release 2.1 closer to that considering the n1 runs 2.1.
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march isn't over yet.
....i say more like april or may tbh. i heard the nexus launch might be in june so it makes sense to release 2.1 closer to that considering the n1 runs 2.1.
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Oh well, thanks damageless for 2.1 on my Hero all ready.
Okay xda, here's a hypothetical situation I'm considering:
I'm running damagecontrol 2.08.1, and I know the official 2.1 is out now. However, I hear mixed reviews. I'd much rather be running the official update, but at the same time not too sure I want to lose root. It'd be good to hop off the root train to avoid pains like this, but then I'll be impatient when Froyo comes around I suppose. Anyways, I was wondering if it were at all possible to:
1.) Backup via Nandroid my system running 2.08.1 rooted.
2.) Update to the official non-rooted 2.1
3.) Test it out, and if I don't like it, restore to my 2.08.1 rooted via Nandroid, and have root access again.
Can anyone confirm whether or not this would work? Also for those that updated, what are your thoughts on Root-vs-Non?
You figure out how to run a nandroid backup without root, after running the Sprint RUU, and you will make 27 people on this forum VERY Happy.
not me, I was smart and didn't load it...or at least i didn't "take one for the team"
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Okay xda, here's a hypothetical situation I'm considering:
I'm running damagecontrol 2.08.1, and I know the official 2.1 is out now. However, I hear mixed reviews. I'd much rather be running the official update, but at the same time not too sure I want to lose root. It'd be good to hop off the root train to avoid pains like this, but then I'll be impatient when Froyo comes around I suppose. Anyways, I was wondering if it were at all possible to:
1.) Backup via Nandroid my system running 2.08.1 rooted.
2.) Update to the official non-rooted 2.1
3.) Test it out, and if I don't like it, restore to my 2.08.1 rooted via Nandroid, and have root access again.
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This will not work, If you upgrade to 2.1 using official Ruu, You will lose root, and it will wipe the custom recovery image, so no more flashing anything, no more root, until someone finds the clink in the htc armour to regain root
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I see, so that recovery menu isn't stock android recovery? Well then here's another question.
If you could get flash-rec on an unrooted phone through the ASTRO install method, could you flash a custom recovery image like 1.6.2, then do a nandroid restore from backup?
I probably sound like a mega-noob, just wanting to know why we can't do these things.
Nah, I "took one for the team" but am actually working on it. I DO have to say that the official 2.1 is DAMN fast though. Like, faster then pancacke 0.1 hehe
No but seriously, there is almost 0 lag, and the only thing that I have seen wrong is all of the apps in the app drawer
And no, the nandroid thing is NOT possible.
Hmm, thanks regaw for the answer. Is it fast enough to make waiting for a 2.1 rooted unnecessary right now? Cause damage hasn't logged in for ages, and I'm tired of all the force closes and errors I'm getting. I'm just not so sure it's worth upgrading when I may have to wait longer if I update to an unrooted. I mean, I have A2SD, DConfig, all those shenanigans that make the phone so much better. What's your take?
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Hmm, thanks regaw for the answer. Is it fast enough to make waiting for a 2.1 rooted unnecessary right now? Cause damage hasn't logged in for ages, and I'm tired of all the force closes and errors I'm getting. I'm just not so sure it's worth upgrading when I may have to wait longer if I update to an unrooted. I mean, I have A2SD, DConfig, all those shenanigans that make the phone so much better. What's your take?
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Well, If you would like to do anything other than what Sprint/HTC wants you to do, I would recommend NOT upgrading, but waiting for something to come out. I know that Damageless is really busy, but I know that trevE is working on things too. They just need to finalize some stuff to get it out. While official 2.1 is fast, it doesn't have a whole bunch of things that us on custom ROMs take for granted. This is my first time on an official ROM since January, and, I do not want to keep it on for long, 1) just so I can begin developing again... and 2) so I can figure out the method of getting root back for everyone who ran the RUU.
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Well, If you would like to do anything other than what Sprint/HTC wants you to do, I would recommend NOT upgrading, but waiting for something to come out. I know that Damageless is really busy, but I know that trevE is working on things too. They just need to finalize some stuff to get it out. While official 2.1 is fast, it doesn't have a whole bunch of things that us on custom ROMs take for granted. This is my first time on an official ROM since January, and, I do not want to keep it on for long, 1) just so I can begin developing again... and 2) so I can figure out the method of getting root back for everyone who ran the RUU.
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Damn it Regaw I just realzied that you have more posts than me.
Any how, good luck on finding that root.
Here is this from Millworm, But it hink Eris devs proved it was fixed long ago.
http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/9545
This one is also older, but not sure if anyone has tried it.
http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/8678
Edit - Milw0rm must be dead.
and this, but it looks like only 2.6.30 Kernel maybe, and its just a Null Pointer exploit which is probably not suitable.
http://lwn.net/Articles/341773/
Also:
Possible way to change an MD5:
http://www.rapidleech.com/topic/2860-change-md5-hash/
Just some stuff I have looked at doing, but I am not willing to jump ship on a rooted phone.
you know I have been back and forth on whether or not to go with the official release and lose root, but during that process I loaded up Pure Hero rom which is based off the alysious (sp?) Rom but with Sense removed and man is it fast.
I have no need to lose root and this little phone is very speedy. And yes, I have tried Damage and Fresh (and a few variation based on those two) roms. Although they are decent roms, they just and turtles when compared to Pure Hero.
As far as Sense goes, I did like Sense, if you want it then do the alysious (again sp?) rom. Just that I think removing sense speeds it up, and honestly you can get all those functions through apps.
I stumbled across a page a few days ago, and someone said that if you take the 2.2 update through Sprint, you'll lose your root (I know this part) but he also said you won't be able to root in the future.
Is this true? If so then I'd definitely prefer jumping on a 2.2 ROM and using that instead of receiving the update via Sprint.
I would like to use the Cyro ROM or whatever, but I don't like the idea of not having my FM radio or 4G etc etc.
Just use Fresh 3.0 (based on 2.2) then you can keep all the HTC/Sprint stuff you want.
Any official updates - past, present, and future - will break root. If you are rooted and don't want to lose root, be patient and wait a couple days for the dudes here to put out a rooted ROM without having to wait for a root exploit. When updating to an official ROM there is a likelihood that there will be no root exploit to discover and thus you will be S.O.L. when it comes to regaining root. Patience.
There are currently several 2.2 ROMs based off of the official leak (but it's supposedly not the final build). Look for the rooted ones by netarchy or whoever.
just give it a few more days. the official v2.2 should go out tomorrow. just don't accept the OTA update.
if you are planning on rooting your phone then do not accept any Over The Air updates (yes OTA can jak ur root). the official comes out on 8/3 so give it till the weekend and you should have updated ROMs using the latest greatest. anyone updating to the leaked version 'should' be ok but will prolly be updating again once their ROM gets the official updates. save yourself the stress and wait til the dust settles...unless ur big into the geeking on your EVO...then just make sure your nandroids are good.
Cyanogen will be nice. however, due to that teams philosophy on using opensource code you may not see 4G as fast as you will with some of our other devs (godspeed to madcoders fingers). I'm probably going to load the Fresh 3.0 ROM later this week...once the dust has settled. i miss my 4G.
If you want to keep root, DO NOT download anything from sprint, only download from XDA and the like.
mrono said:
If you want to keep root, DO NOT download anything from sprint, only download from XDA and the like.
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OTA has been known to cause:
Anal Seepage.
Watch.
Right after someone takes it, they are gonna come here wanting root...
If you do OTA, either wait for Root, or SHUT UP!
Don't whine, don't b!tch, and don't say you didn't know!
I am not in hurry to upgrade to 2.2, I don't mind waiting. I've had my phone two weeks and I've barely rooted it and it's still not even setup the way I want it yet because I know I'll be flashing soon anyways.
Looks like Fresh 3.0 will be the way to go, I'll just wait until a bit after the 3rd so I have the final build.
I downloaded the update just so I could have the file I don't want to actually install it. Anyone know where the file is downloaded too so I can pull it off my phone?
OK a nice simple one,
had my dhd a few weeks now very pleased with it. Am a massive fan of cyanogenmod roms, previously had a magic 32b and his roms were the best thing to happen to the phone, so am holding out for a cyanogenmod dhd rom - fingers crossed!
So if I install OTA updates will it stop me from getting root with S-OFF in the future. Golden rule of flashing anything (apart from backing up first!!) is not to update to the latest system software. Well this has always been the case with anyhing I have flashed in the past (psp, ps3, magic 32b, ipod, iphones etc...) is that also the case with the DHD?????
DHD on T-Mobile UK.
nop, its not like "apple" devices, you can install otas from htc and hack your device, the ota include some software issue that fix (bugs and so).
btw: if you have root and recovery - you will not get any OTA, the recovery blocks it,
but you will get it from your costom rom vision.
As I thought, same deal as my old magic 32b then. Still think i'm going to sit on the fence for a while an watch what roms get developed or ported over.
I just miss a few of the mods in CM roms, silly thing like being able to enter a custom field in the add contact menu. Im sure i'll get over it. Although I believe that was a wysie mod to the phone book.
Thanks for the quick response.
Just gotta say how nice this phone is after my magic 32b, its like upgarading the ram and processor on your PC, it flies!!
An afterthought,
it seems it would be sensible to install the first few OTA updates before rooting so any stock software bugs are fixed before you loose the ability to update OTA.
Unless of course you are flashing a custom ROM which I assume the devs would include the bugfixes within their ROMS.
Why dont you try the CM rom now and if you dont want to keep it unroot the phone ?
Its brilliant by the way
I didnt realise there was a CM rom for the DHD, i couldnt see a category on his site for the DHD
But I do see it on the first page here in the dev section. Very pleased CM for the DHD and the phone has only been out a short while!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844703
liorra3 said:
nop, its not like "apple" devices, you can install otas from htc and hack your device, the ota include some software issue that fix (bugs and so)...
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Untrue: OTAs can and surely will fix the exploit used to root our DHD. Once rooted, never install an OTA and wait for a custom rom with the fix(es).
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forelli said:
Untrue: OTAs can and surely will fix the exploit used to root our DHD. Once rooted, never install an OTA and wait for a custom rom with the fix(es).
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Although if they do screw us over it is still possible to restore an older ruu image and re-root. I have archived myself a copy of the original WWE just in case.
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Although if they do screw us over it is still possible to restore an older ruu image and re-root. I have archived myself a copy of the original WWE just in case.
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No, because they usually update the hboot, and when they do that, you're properly f#@&!d because Devs have to find a new exploit.
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No, because they usually update the hboot, and when they do that, you're properly f#@&!d because Devs have to find a new exploit.
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Couldn't you make a goldcard with sdk and a HxD hex editor??...then flash the ruu and you should be able to OTA..
Not as I see a need to do this as the Devs will always make new custom roms with the updated offical roms anyway..