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Hi, I'm new in this forum, and I don't speack English well, so I want to excuse me!
I have the new Touch HD, at the beginning I changed immediately the original ROM with a new one, I installed a lot of programs, and everything woked very well for two weeks, but then I had a big problems with battery...a the first the battery was very good, -10/15% per day, but suddenly after two weeks the battery lose 1% of its charge every 2/5 mintes...if I disconnect the power when the battery is 100%, after one hour without use (and also without wifi, BT and GPS), I have 70% of charge!
I try to change the ROM, a friend suggested me a new upgrade for Radio, but I didn't resolve my problem!
Now I buy a new battery online in htcstore, but if I put my mobile in "Fly mode" the battery work very very good!
I want to say that here normally I have the signal indicator with 2/3 nicks, so the signal is good!
Someone can help me?...someone have my same problem?
Thank you so much fo everything!
Greetings, Eddy
the battery will be used up quickly if your fone is constantly searching in and out for a 3g signal, regardless of 2g signal strength
have you got wifi on?
bluetooth?
a gps app running?
what other apps do you have running in background? some really poll the cpu a lot and will lead to battery drain
other than a dodgy battery, it must be some software running that is using up the battery
Thank you for aswering!
In background normally I have SMS o Contacs, but also if I close every programs in background the battery doesn't work well!
No, Bluetooth is OFF, GPS and WI-FI are OFF, I use telephone just with gsm!
Also when I write message, normally I write a message so long (3/4 messages), after wirting, the battery lost 10%, and I didn't have this problems at the biginning!
I left my mobile on also during the night, and in the morning I had again 100% of charge...now 100% it's a far dream!
try turning off the autoadjust for the screen and setting it at a medium setting, also make sure the backlight turns off after a minute or less.
its a huge screen and will burn up power, although saying that i watched a full length film on my HD the other day and only used 20% in 1.5hrs
if no progs are running in the background and its not a display issue (how have you checked whats running btw? need more than just WM taskmanager, try mem maid or similar) and the problem is not there when in flight mode. then i can only assume its the rom you are using, try another with a different radio rom in it
i found roms with 1.10 radio to be better than 1.09. try this rom (mulitlanguage) works good for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465637
edit: have you got HDTweak installed? its good to configure the data to auto turnoff after 1 minute or so (even in gsm gprs could be running)
I tried to setup the new ROM but I didn't resolve the problem!
If I leave my mobile only with GSM on, without use it, without call and sms, the battery lost 2% in 30 minutes, and it's not normal!
If I use it, change settings, write message, the battery lose 5% in five minutes!
I don't know what I have to do...this mobilie now can't live without a power connection!
I want say also that at the beginning some application in my HTC wanted "HTCAPI.dll" because they didn't found into the mobile...so I found this dll online and I did copy/paste into the directory!
It can gave me problems with battery?....I don't know how it's possible, but I don't know!
Try to buy or borrow another HD battery and compare them. You should know the problem then.
Of course, I alredy bought it online, and I'm waiting to get the shipping!
But it's very strange that a battery stop to work suddenly, but I know that there are a lot of people who have my same problem!
If i were you, i would flash back the original rom and do a hard reset. Then, without installing anything on the device, see if the problem persists.
Thank you ardsar...I want to try....can you tell me, what I have to do to obtain the original product?...without hardspl and new rom?...like the first time that I turned on this HD! Thank you so much!
For example, I have your same SPL and ROM at the moment!
Hi Ardsar, I flashed my ROM and SPL (brand), and now my mobile is like the original but....do you know Teeter?...I played 2 minutes, I completed 3 levels, and from 85% the battery is now at 79%...
Hi guys...yesterday I did a lot ot tests, but without positive results, but I fund out new problems:
1)The bettery lose a lot of charge also if my Blackstone is offline, when I use it with TouchFLO, Teeter, SMS, Settings...everytime!
2)I have near to icon of signal, the simbol of GPRS, but sometimes it changes with the simbol H and with this new symbol, the signal falls and to resolve it, I have to wait a long ore reset the mobile.
Now I'm not sure that the "target" is the battery...I don't know, I changed also the Radio ROM with new last, but the problem is not over!
Before put it into garbage case, someone can suggest me something to try?
...I will never bring it to Assistence HTC, because I will have to wait some months, and I didn't pay 500€ to have it "under repairing"
Do you have SK Tools 4.4.6 or another battery monitor installed?
With SK Tools, you can see under the sys info the current battery use. My usage is in standby with lighted display -100mA. What's normal?
My battery is also very empty. Last evening i had 54%. This morning, the phone was off, no power any more.
No, now I will try this tool!
But I think that you also have problem with battery, becase the firsts days that I had my HD, I left my mobile on the whole night with 100% and in the morning I had 100%...I had 99% at lunch time!And a lot of friends that have this mobile have the battery so strong, like me at the beginning...so...I'm getting angry
i have this problem too. had my HD for 2 weeks coming to 3 now and my battery seems to deplect very fast, totally different when i had it. could be becoz of the wallpaper and 3rd party theme i had
For me, it seems it's a software or anything else that needs so much battery power, perhaps the hotfixes or something else.
Sadly, the whole battery monitor progs don't show the needed power per running process, only the current usage. Can anyone with a "good" battery life cann post his current usage? (For expample with SK Tools System Information/battery supply)
Is the backup battery always at 0%?
Battlog
How about this. You can log your activities and see how much battery current (discharge) each application is using by the ma figure. It produces a .log file but if you change it to .txt you can open it up in a text editor.
Hope it helps.
EDIT: Just found out there is better info on it here on XDA Raphael forum. Credits to PalladiumTD for this app.
Today I tried a new battery, and also with a good battery, I have the same problem...so I think that I have to send my mobile to HTC service and ask for a new one, because it can be an internal problem, maybe of motherboard, radio, or I don't know...but it's sure that is hardware problem!
Did you a hard reset and installed nothing else?
Yes, I did...I alredy unpacked it and monday I will send it to HTC service....I hope that they will sed me a new one....a friend said to me that maybe this problem for them is called DOA (dead on arrived) and in this case they have just to change it!I hope so!....but I don't like...!
I know that I can reset it pushing the volume control ecc.....someone knows it exactly?Thank you!
Hi guys I need your help for this problem.
The camera won't let me take photos using the flash leds, I tap the icon but nothing happens...it won't change.
The thing is that it worked fine and smooth until yesterday (as far as I remember), I only installed some "innocent" cabs and the hotfixes. Never changed the ROM but now, after the hotfixes, it shows me 2 different versions: when the phone starts it says 1.48.71294 but when I go in phone informations it says ROM 1.48.408.1 (71294) ITA (btw, I'm italian...). Is it the same thing or what?
Now I'm downloading the ROM from the htc support :/. Will it help? donno yet.
The phone works perfect, just this camera thingy is driving me mad. 3 or 4 hard resets didn't help.
Try help me out (I'll go up on the roof and throw my Leo far far away...).
Thx in advance.
EDIT: SOLVED
hi,
great to know your problem got solved. can you please post the solution?
thanks
Funny how it got solved: another hard reset and here I go.
Sorry but this is it.
And make sure your batter is above the minimum charge amount for the camera app to use the flash. I've seen various amounts on here, ranging from 20% to 50%. I'd suggest that if your flash isn't working in the camera app, that's probably your problem. Just make sure you're charged to at least 50%.
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And make sure your batter is above the minimum charge amount for the camera app to use the flash. I've seen various amounts on here, ranging from 20% to 50%. I'd suggest that if your flash isn't working in the camera app, that's probably your problem. Just make sure you're charged to at least 50%.
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this is what I was mumble-mumble thinking last night but the battery was fully charged.
It seems like this smartphone is a work-in-progress but I'm positive and still consider that the price is worth.
I had the same problem: at the beginning I was scared something went wrong on my device. Later I found that under 20% the led flash is disabled by default to save battery.... try, it's the right percentage...
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Not having the flash available under 20% is a real pain - I don't like having my hand held because HTC won't let me decide if the pic I want to take is more important or having my phone last for some extra time.
Does anybody know the registry tweak or fix to enable the flash until the battery is spent?
There's none.
The drain of the flash is so high that if it stayed active under 20% the voltage drop on the battery would most likely cause your HD2 to just shut down instantly when it gives the bright flash when taking the photo.
battery under 30% the device wont allow you to use the flash.
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I've always read the thread about battery life problems on here thinking "Thank **** mine doesn't have that problem" - luckily since I bought mine in December the battery has been quite impressive really.
But a few days ago it suddenly started losing power VERY fast. I'm talking about 10%/hour even on standby, so I undid changes I'd made recently and it made no difference.
Then I read through loads of other threads on here from people who had poor battery life on their phones to look for clues/solutions.
It seems that the responses are (understandably) fairly consistent, eg:
check for stuff running in task manager
remove changes recently made to the phone/uninstall recently added apps
make sure your data/wireless etc isn't doing stuff it shouldn't be
turn off automatic updates
turn down the screen brightness
check activesync
do a hard reset
upgrade your radio rom
etc
All of these of course make sense and are useful suggestions, but it seems there are a good few cases where doing these things don't help, ie you check out the different potential causes and none appear to be responsible. And in the case of sudden poor battery performance you can't point the finger at the rom/screen brighness/auto updates if they are only doing the same as they have been for ages without issue.
So is there a genuine case for the batteries just suddenly 'going weak'?
I've resorted to a hard reset on mine last night after assuming something had got corrupted hence why I could not find the cause of the sudden battery weakness.
But it hasn't helped - it's still dropping approx 10% each hour while on standby, even on a basic install, without even all the apps I normally have.
To me therefore it logically has to mean a failing battery if a hard reset does not help - or can anyone argue why that might not be true? The only exception I can think of realistically is a hardware fault with the phone.
Have ordered a new standard one anyway, and a hicap 'bulge' battery, so I'll post up if the new one cures it. Quite a few battery threads seem to have no conclusion, so ultimately they're not all that helpful in those cases.
How many other people have had issues like this where the battery life has rapidly gone downhill and a new battery has solved the issue?
Also, has anyone done any tests on their 'dodgy' batteries to see if they are indeed going bad or if it's the phone at fault? For instance (really basic I know) if I were to hook up a light bulb to the battery and measure how long it lasts before it goes dim, then compare it to the results from a new battery, would that be worth trying?
If that's the case it's p1ss poor that a state of the art phone can't even go 6-7months before the battery is junk!
I understand and appreciate that li-ion cells only have a certain number of charge cycles (like most rechargeables) but this takes the cake!
My old XDA orbit is years old, still has its original battery, and that has not deteriorated by any noticeable amount, so these shouldn't either.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688496
and let me know if the new battery fixes the problem. I think the batteries might be crap and prone to failing early.
Thanks for the link - sounds exactly the same as my issue.
Hopefully the new battery packs will sort it but that's shocking quality control or product design/testing if these are failing so quickly.
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
Enchanter said:
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
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Yeah right. But that has not solved the problems with the 6 month old phone.
What i have not read in the post of Cret is that you took the memory card out and see if that improves battery life. a corrupt file on the memory card causes a huge drain.
try because that also happenns suddenly e.g. after been connected to a computer and not disconnecting properly.
That's a damn good point actually - thanks. I had seen that mentioned in other battery threads yet somehow completely forgot to try it.
I will try and see whether it makes any difference - cheers.
If that should turn out to be the cause of the problem how do you resolve it?
To elaborate - I don't imagine you can easily identify which file would be the culprit, without formatting the card and adding the files back one by one and testing for the fault to re-appear. That's totally impractical, almost impossible with the number of files you can fit on a 16gb card, and the time it would take to carry out that process, so what do you do?
Or is it possible that simply copying them off the card, formatting it, and pasting them back would somehow resolve the issue.
Enchanter said:
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
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How pointless.
wilcovh said:
Yeah right. But that has not solved the problems with the 6 month old phone.
What i have not read in the post of Cret is that you took the memory card out and see if that improves battery life. a corrupt file on the memory card causes a huge drain.
try because that also happenns suddenly e.g. after been connected to a computer and not disconnecting properly.
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Doesn't this usually result in filesys.exe spiking up to 100% (or just high) CPU usage, though? It isn't doing this on mine, although I'll give it a shot without the SD card. I would expect better battery life without an SD card in anyway, but nothing dramatic.
Cret, let me know if your new battery sorts the problem so I know to buy one myself!
the battery do this only a the begining but after 6 monthes of use it becomes better day after day
hoss_n2 said:
the battery do this only a the begining but after 6 monthes of use it becomes better day after day
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What are you talking about? Again, you enlighten a thread with useless information. You can clearly see the OP has had the phone for 6 months (as have I) and the battery is failing (as is mine).
Plus, your battery must defy the laws of physics if it gets better day after day. Interesting.
Cret said:
If that should turn out to be the cause of the problem how do you resolve it?
almost impossible with the number of files you can fit on a 16gb card
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What you can try is put the memory card in a card reader and run checkdisk on the card. see if that identify's any problems on the file system
beside of that it seems that the HD2 has problems with 16GB cards, at least quite a few of them. read through the posts.
Id suggest to collect more data about the problem.
The program BattClock lets you check the battery drain in mA. A normal drain for the HD2, with no processes keeping the CPU awake, is 4mA in standby, with only the radio being powered to receive calls.
So, since the battery current value isn't update instantly, right after you wake up form stanby battclock should be showing 4mA (max6-7mA or something lik that) fora few seconds. If that's not the case, and if the drain is way higher than that, then it may be the case that the phone for some strange reasons is draining more current than it should, and it's not a real battery fault.
I had a similar issue, solved it by disabling auto backlight. Set it at 30% and all good since then.
Well, I thought there had been a slight improvement over the weekend with this battery issue but this morning on standby the phone dropped 3% in a matter of 5 or 10 minutes on standby.
So I removed the mcirosd card and in nearly 3 hours since then it has dropped another 4%. That's a big improvement and does hint that the card is the fault, but it's too early to be sure about that. I've put the card back in to see if it begins to drop fast again. If so I'll take it out for longer and monitor it again.
wilcovh said:
What you can try is put the memory card in a card reader and run checkdisk on the card. see if that identify's any problems on the file system
beside of that it seems that the HD2 has problems with 16GB cards, at least quite a few of them. read through the posts.
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Good idea. I wasn't aware that the phones had problems with cards this size. What about with 32gb ones (not that I can afford one!)?
ephestione said:
So, since the battery current value isn't update instantly, right after you wake up form stanby battclock should be showing 4mA (max6-7mA or something lik that)
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I did use battlog briefly, but just to keep an eye on the current current amount in use and it was fluctuating a lot just with the phone awake but running no apps. Sometimes it after waking it the phone would show a low figure like you quote but other times not.
I haven't checked batlog out fully in terms of what it's capable of, but what would be great would be an app that can log the current use like that does, but at the same time also log a list of which processes/services/applications are running, then that could REALLY give some useful info.
Eg the log shows normal current use, then spikes upwards when a specific process begins to run.
Cret said:
I haven't checked batlog out fully in terms of what it's capable of, but what would be great would be an app that can log the current use like that does, but at the same time also log a list of which processes/services/applications are running, then that could REALLY give some useful info.
Eg the log shows normal current use, then spikes upwards when a specific process begins to run.
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make a request for this feature in battclock's thread
The author seems to be quite open to useful suggestions (I, among others, suggested the log-to-txt feature )
Would be a good idea - I like BattClock I must admit. Nice to have the taskbar info like it does.
Ok, later on in the day, it's worked out that it's used 35% battery in approx 3.5 hours of standby - pretty horrendous. Equates to about 10.5 hours (very roughly) battery life on standby. I've checked periodically during this 3.5 hour period and the drop has been steady.
With the card removed, it went 3 hours and only lost 4%, meaning approx 77 hours of standby time at that rate.
Quite a difference between the two.
So at this point it very much looks like there is a fault relating to the memory card.
I'll try some testing tonight. Mainly that will mean I'll first do a filesystem test as suggested. Then delete all the media files, cut the remainder of files and paste them elsewhere, format the card then paste them back, and see how it then behaves.
So it seems now that buying new batteries (and almost slagging off the HTC one) was slightly hasty, but they'll still be really useful, so I'm not at all bothered about that.
Try putting the blank card in, with nothing on it. Would be interesting to see how much juice it draws just having a card in there without reading anything from it.
I have the same issue.
My HD2 worked like a charm, only around 12% battery drain in 24 hours (I could carry it around on standby for one week before recharging).
Now - it sucks around 3% per hour. After one day, I'm at around 25% charge
At first I thougth this was related to Co0kie's Home Tab, but even after hard-reseting, it still drained battery as hell.
At the moment I'm running it without memory card (4GB Kingston) to see if this might be the issue...
I've run a CHKDSK on my memory card just in case, but the filesystem's fine. Any update, Cret?
Well, I'm sure mine was caused by the card, or at least a fault that related to it (ie possibly a file rather than the card itself).
Since I removed the card the battery life returned to normal, so I formatted it, and then copied some of the content back onto it again. It has been back in the phone for a little while now and has been behaving quite well. Basically for instance it's at 77% now at 10.30pm after being removed from the charger around 8am. I haven't used the phone much except to check emails a few times, read a few texts, and go online a couple of times/read RSS feeds a little.
So I'm fairly happy with that.
BUT - not having had the chance to use the phone much (ie mess about) since I formatted the card, I just found that the phone thinks there is no card inside it at the moment for some reason!
I removed it and the PC can read the card and its contents no problem but the phone cannot see it. The only reason I can think of for this is that I formatted the card as NTFS instead of Fat since it's meant to give faster performance, but is it possible that the phone itself does not support this format?
Since it's not working at the moment I'll have to try wiping it and changing it back to fat again.
Yes I have tried rebooting it also.
Next thing is th double size replacement battery I bought arrived the other day. The battery fits ok but the replacement cover that came with it does not fit properly at all.
The cover clips in ok on the side of the volume buttons, but no matter what I do it just hangs loose on the opposite side so I can't actually use the bloody thing since the battery will just fall out like this. Really not happy at all about this.
This is the one I bought:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Extended-2400...eBatteries&hash=item5d2925ce91#ht_1862wt_1137
I think I will be trying to return this for a full refund since there appears to be a design flaw. Normally I would attempt to make something like this fit properly myself but if I failed then I'd have a piece of junk that I could neither use nor return so I think better just to return it without messing about.
It's a shame as the cover actually looks like it should fit perfectly, and seems to fit very well, it's just that it fails completely to latch in place on one side, as if the clip bit is not long enough perhaps.
What concerns me slightly at the moment
Just reformatted the card as Fat instead of NTFS and loaded my files back on and it works now.
So I'll update in due course once I've been using it loaded up again.
Hi,
I'm posting this in return for all the information I found about the HD2 and poor battery performance. I read every thread I could find and every single post in them. I learned a lot and that allowed me to solve my problem.
I got no more than about 10 hours of use out of my battery with average use. Initially I thought this was the norm, reading a number of threads on this issue. I could however not believe that the performance was so poor, even taking the large screen into account.
I decided to try and determine exactly what it was that caused the battery to drain to quickly. I loaded BattLog and found it invaluable (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444920).
I immediately noticed that my phone was drawing 85 mA even when it was in standby (or what I thought was standby). Based on what I was reading, the current draw should not be more than 5 mA while the phone is in standby.
I noticed in one of the threads that there were complaints about G-Profile causing battery drain. Since I had it on my phone I thought that might be a logical place to look. I uninstalled it a lo and behold... the current draw fell to below 5 mA when the phone was in standby!
In addition I loaded Bandswitch which switches off my 3G connection after it has not been used for 60 seconds.
Now I have about 48+ hours of battery life. When not using the phone a lot it extends to a lot more than 48 hours.
The long and short of it is that if you get poor battery performance, chances are it is because of some software that is installed on your phone.
Here are a couple of usefull things I have found in helping resolve my battery issues:
1) Use Batlog (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444920) to log the current your phone draws. If it draws more than 5 mA during standby you have a problem, most probably related to a piece of software on your phone
2) Your phone should not be drawing much more than about 150 mA when in 'active' mode with the screen at 40% brightness.
3) If you are running G-Profile, uninstall it and recheck your current draw. Chances are that it is the culprit.
4) Having an active data connection does draw power from the battery. In my case this is about an additional 130 mA. Load something like Bandswitch to disable the data connection when it is not needed.
I hope this information helps somebody. I realise that the situation is different for everybody out there because of all the variants such as age of the battery, sofware loaded and use. However, the reality is that the battery issues are most probably not because of a bad battery or the hardware but rather because of software on the phone.
BTW I am running:
OS Version: 5.2.21869
Manilla version: 2.5.19211619.0
ROM version: 1.48.421.2 (71294) WWE
Radio version: 2.05.51.05_2
Regards
gerhardvr said:
Hi,
I'm posting this in return for all the information I found about the HD2 and poor battery performance. I read every thread I could find and every single post in them. I learned a lot and that allowed me to solve my problem.
I got no more than about 10 hours of use out of my battery with average use. Initially I thought this was the norm, reading a number of threads on this issue. I could however not believe that the performance was so poor, even taking the large screen into account.
I decided to try and determine exactly what it was that caused the battery to drain to quickly. I loaded BattLog and found it invaluable.
I immediately noticed that my phone was drawing 85 mA even when it was in standby (or what I thought was standby). Based on what I was reading, the current draw should not be more than 5 mA while the phone is in standby.
I noticed in one of the threads that there were complaints about G-Profile causing battery drain. Since I had it on my phone I thought that might be a logical place to look. I uninstalled it a lo and behold... the current draw fell to below 5 mA when the phone was in standby!
In addition I loaded Bandswitch which switches off my 3G connection after it has not been used for 60 seconds.
Now I have about 48+ hours of battery life. When not using the phone a lot it extends to a lot more than 48 hours.
The long and short of it is that if you get poor battery performance, chances are it is because of some software that is installed on your phone.
Here are a couple of usefull things I have found in helping resolve my battery issues:
1) Use Batlog to log the current your phone draws. If it draws more than 5 mA during standby you have a problem, most probably related to a piece of software on your phone
2) Your phone should not be drawing much more than about 150 mA when in 'active' mode with the screen at 40% brightness.
3) If you are running G-Profile, uninstall it and recheck your current draw. Chances are that it is the culprit.
4) Having an active data connection does draw power from the battery. In my case this is about an additional 130 mA. Load something like Bandswitch to disable the data connection when it is not needed.
I hope this information helps somebody. I realise that the situation is different for everybody out there because of all the variants such as age of the battery, sofware loaded and use. However, the reality is that the battery issues are most probably not because of a bad battery or the hardware but rather because of software on the phone.
BTW I am running:
OS Version: 5.2.21869
Manilla version: 2.5.19211619.0
ROM version: 1.48.421.2 (71294) WWE
Radio version: 2.05.51.05_2
Regards
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and imagine that your rom version is accused of massive batt draining!
an upgrade to 1.66 / 1.72 should make a difference..or a custom rom
batlog?
Hi Gerhardvr,
What is the batlog software you used?
I'm very interested about your post.
Thanks.
J6B.
Very useful findings, gerhardvr. Thanks!
found BattLog
ok, I found BattLog
It's just in showthread.php?t=444920
Have a nice day guys.
cu
J6B.
When I ran the Test, it said that I was using up 242mA in standby! I dont believe I have G-Profile installed, unless it was pre installed on the device. I have the latest versions of the ROM, Radio, Manila, and OS version, so I know the culprit cant be the ROM version... Any ideas? I bought this phone from T-Mobile US.... Sooo yeah
Folks, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this as well. I have a number of cab files which do seem to help a little. One of the bigest culprits I've found is the screen lockers. Disable them and see how you fair!
soopahsteve said:
When I ran the Test, it said that I was using up 242mA in standby! I dont believe I have G-Profile installed, unless it was pre installed on the device. I have the latest versions of the ROM, Radio, Manila, and OS version, so I know the culprit cant be the ROM version... Any ideas? I bought this phone from T-Mobile US.... Sooo yeah
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Soopahsteve,
I suggest you use Battlog to log to file. This is very useful as it will log the time stamp, the current temp of the battery and the current draw at the point in time. In addition it logs arious events on the phone, in particular the startup and shut down of applications, data connectivity, when you make or receive a call, whether you are talking or receiving on the call, etc. This can be opened in Excel and then analysed and if you are very lucky, you will pick up some patterns allowing you to link some programs to the battery drain.
However, the situation is typically slightly more complex to resolve since the culprit software are usually software that is loaded as TSR application at reboot. The result of this is that Battlog will not show the startup of these applications in the log file since they are already running at the time you are starting Battlog.
You should look at programs that manage phone profiles, screen lockers, screen calls or SMS messages, etc. In other words, any program that does work behind the scenes.
The reason you are seeing 242 mA in "standby" is because your phone is not really in standby. Although the screen is blank, something is preventing your phone from going into true standby, the processor is still active. The trick is to find what this is.
Sometimes the only approach is to uninstall the applications you suspect one by one and see if it makes a difference until you either find the culprit or can prove that none of the them are an issue. Then reinstall the ones you think are "safe" one by one and check whether the probelm pops up again. unfortunately you have to do the double sided approach because there could be more than one application that cuases your issue.
Painful I know but worh it when you have two days worth of battery time with some to spare.
Regards
See no reason to upgrade to the latest ROM
chris2busy said:
and imagine that your rom version is accused of massive batt draining!
an upgrade to 1.66 / 1.72 should make a difference..or a custom rom
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You know it. In reality I would love to upgrade to the latest and greatest but I've customised my phone to the Nth degree (did obviously not upgrade the ROM) by installing all the little apps I find useful, Cookies Home tab (best thing since sliced bread), etc. My phone is now just the way I like it.
It would take me quite some time to upgrade the ROM and to customise it again from scratch and I really don't see the benefit. I might be force to do it when I get to a stage where there are software that I would like to load that only works on the later ROMs but until such time I'm not gonna try to fix that that ain't broke.
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is this the bandswitch u are using? if not, can i check where to get the program?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844
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It would take me quite some time to upgrade the ROM and to customise it again from scratch
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I just upgraded my ROM and did a Level 1 restore with Sprite Backup ... everything comes back except (I think) for wifi passwords.
i am drawing 180mA on standby..
im using custom rom, energy rom so thats very strange, but i have to agree that my battery life is terrible.. so i got to find a way to cut down on the 180mA drain..
I've always had good battery life on stock 1.66 rom losing 3% overnight with wifi and bluetooth turned off. Had to do a hard reset and started losing 15% overnight with the same everything. Did further resets and got nowhere. Ended up giving up on 1.66 although it had been fine previously after numerous hard resets - makes no sense but this is what happened. Just flashed to 1.72 and back to losing 3% overnight what it should be. And that is out of the box, to be honest all the battery saving registry tweaks are not worth the time installing and I leave 3G on all the time with updates coming through.
So it's all a bit random and shame on HTC for not sorting it out. My advice is do a hard reset, switch the wifi and bluetooth off and see in the morning if you have a reasonable battery life (or use the batt consumption program to verify standby consumption is sensible). Do this first before installing everything, getting frustrated and starting over again like I did when you discover that you're still experiencing high battery drain. This ensures that your starting point is a good flash and the phone is getting good life before adding any apps that could be causing a problem.
i have found my hd2 really does not like being in a poor or no coverage area. other phones i've owned have normally coped pretty well with no or very little signal. but not the hd2.
also noticed more drain in areas where there is only poor 3g coverage and its switching between 'g' and 'h' coverage.
fi3ry_icy said:
i am drawing 180mA on standby..
im using custom rom, energy rom so thats very strange, but i have to agree that my battery life is terrible.. so i got to find a way to cut down on the 180mA drain..
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Energy ROMs, just like the name goes, use a lot of Energy
They are baked in with a lot of performance tweaks so it's not unusual to get lower battery life per charge compared to other more down to earth vanilla ROMs.
Thanks for this thread, a lot of interesting information about the battery life of my HD2.
Just to mention: battconfig shows the power consumption directly in the task bar, a good way to find power guzzlers while they are active.
It's a pity we have no central place in this forum with a list of background applications that are known to drain the battery faster.
Or, also a needed information, a list of applications that are known not to do this (like PhoneAlarm, PocketShield).
I'm using the official rom only and have non fancy apps running or installed while I'm using the test bat program. As I speak the SD card is removed and celular radio is turned off.
Acording to program there is an indicator which is switching from -229ma to +78ma is that what its drawing of power?
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Acording to program there is an indicator which is switching from -229ma to +78ma is that what its drawing of power?
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+78ma??? That must mean you are charging the battery. The best way to test current draw is when it is only on the battery.
I get about -5ma draw on standby and it tops out at around 180ma when I have the screen on, but usually hovers around 130 - 150ma. I have my screen brightness at the lowest setting possible.
@OP, I wanted to say this earlier... great topic, very insightful.
I have a few suggestions for everyone posting in this thread. Let's try and get some common data together that is more tangible in order to give us a more similar & common perspective for these discussions.
I suggest the following
1) Soft Reset. Once the device is on, do not run ANY applications. In fact don't do anything except for following the below instructions.
2) Turn your screen brightness all the way DOWN! (Turn off Auto Backlight and manually set it to the lowest setting)
3) Check your power settings and make sure that while your phone is on battery, that it is set to dim the backlight after 30 seconds and turn off after 1 minute
*** I have attached 2 REG files below for both Backlight and Power. Please use them instad of doing it manually.***
4) Turn off all the radios (Phone, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth). Let's make our first round of tests with the Radio's off. Radio ON complicates things a bit as there are several applications to keep track of that use the Data Connection. I'll come up with a more comphrehensive list later so we can do the Radio ON tests.
Screenshots
Use a program like Shave&Save and get the following screenshots
1) Use any Task manager and get a screenshot of all the processes running. Sometimes the number of processes displayed is longer than the screen size can accomodate. Take 2 screenshots in this case making sure that you capture all processes. Edit the image with MS Paint or some other Image Program and attach it here as one image. See the example in the post below this one.
2) Goto \Windows\Startup and get a screenshot of the folder contents
3) If you are using Sense, drag the slider all the way to the end (settings) and goto About Phone. Goto Software Information and get a screenshot of that.
Monitoring the Battery
1) Make sure your phone is not connected to the charger or to the computer.
2) Open BattLog (can be found here), set the refresh rate to 1 second and Start Logging.
3) After you start the logging process do not touch the screen / the phone again for exactly 2 minutes.
TIME THIS with a stop watch. As soon as the 2 minutes it complete, turn the phone back on and stop the logging.
Information to post here
1) All the screenshots from above.
2) The current draw (both on standby and while active). Also, please attach the file that logged all the information in this format: Forum ID - BattLog - dd-mmm-yy.txt
3) ROM - Whose ROM? Release Date? Does it have Cookie's Home Tab Installed or any other MAJOR Sense Modifications.
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HTC HD2 (T8585)
OS: WM 6.5
ROM: Energy * Build 21907 * Release 01.JULY.10 * CHT v1.8.5 - Dinik Edition
RADIO: 2.07.50.27_2
Current Draw (mA)
Idle: -3 to -7
Screen On (w/o Radios): -83 to -117
Those figures look normal to me. You should be getting about as good a battery life as a device like this can achieve.
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I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?
dalapigi said:
Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?
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Hello,
That is actually quite interesting, but the first time I have heard of such a query in the 9 months this phone has been released.
Just out of interest, have you tried running the phone with just the standard WM interface to see how long the battery lasts?
Alternative solutions:
1 - You could always try wind-up, or solar charger.
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.
fred_up said:
Alternative solutions:
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.
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could u really do that? </3
@fred_up
Those are nice ideas ! (Infact I've lost my cheap phone recently)
Morpheus, what you mean is WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...
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WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...
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you can turn Sense off in Settings/More/Today,
and according to BattClock power consumption on my Leo (YMMV) is:
Sense: 100-300 mA
Windows Default: 42 mA
Turning off sense would give you a noticable amount of battery life......
The sense interface is a hungry hungry beast........
The linux idea is nice but the problem is that it would be running on top of windows and therefore not save any battery.........
Luckily I still have my trusty (4 days without a charge) N95........
The old girl still comes in handy...
D4rkSoRRoW said:
could u really do that? </3
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Whenever I break my good phone I just use a T-mobile PAYG phone until I can order a new phone. Or if I'm going camping or biking or something.
nice i will try to disable sense ! thanks for this tip
about linux, i believe i read that wm is completzly shut down when launching android (it only serves as a trigger ?)
Running SPB Mobile Shell, I lose 1% of battery life every 3 hours on standy. That's with data and wifi turned off and just the phone running. That would give me about 300 hours of standby time. In theory that should last you a week with a few short calls.
Problem with Android/Ubuntu on this phone right now is you have to run it off the sd card, which draws a lot more power. Whenever the screen is on it draws a lot of power anyway. The best I've done so far is 6% drain over 8 hours with just the phone running in standby.
The most obvious/best solution for you is to just bring an old dumb phone instead or as backup. Then you can just slip the sim card out and use that to make/receive calls.