battery life - EVO 4G General

Anybody heard anything yet about what the battery life is supposed to be like with this phone? I know when I came from the TP to the hero my increase in battery life was like night and day. I am wondering since this has a fast processor and more memory if the battery life will be less than the hero. It just seems to be a waste to have a phone with these kind of features only to be crippled by low battery life. I hope it isn't.

ElAguila said:
Anybody heard anything yet about what the battery life is supposed to be like with this phone? I know when I came from the TP to the hero my increase in battery life was like night and day. I am wondering since this has a fast processor and more memory if the battery life will be less than the hero. It just seems to be a waste to have a phone with these kind of features only to be crippled by low battery life. I hope it isn't.
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It is more than likely be less than the hero, it has the same size battery mah wise as the hero but the voltage req will probally be slightly higher, so that will mean larger physical size. As far as run time, 4g sucks more juice than 3G, snapdragon at full speed 1ghz sucks more down than the 528 MHz in the hero and the bigger physical screen will also need more power than the smaller hero screen, they both use LCD as apposed to amoled which is amazingly good on your battery. They could and probaly should have went with amoled in my opinion.
I can only speculate but the stock 1500mah battery will probally see an 3600 mah extended battery from seidio about 3-4 months after release, about double the physical size of stock battery and extended back protruding 2-3 mm from the back of the current thickness. The evo is a rather thin phone comparatively so that shouldn't effect it. They usually run around 60-70 usd.
I will definitely be getting one if what I believe is correct, but the only potential problem will be the kickstand, I'm currious as how hay are going to overcome that obstacle. My guess is you will have to sacrifice it like some other phones like the palm pre extended battery that made you get rid of the touchstone functionality. They are good at molding compatible plastic moldings, and great at the batteries themselves, but not so good at engineering anything else into it.

i am going to have to agree with the post above...
same battery cap as the Hero, but with everything bigger and needing more power to function...guessing there will be a lot of people that will be complaining about the battery life (including me!).
I think HTC needs to reconsider this before they release this phone to the market. I am sure they can put 1800-2000mah battery in there.
since we are comparing HERO and EVO... and that we know they will have the same kind of screen...
The Hero's screen is very tough and scratch resistant. I have seen and tested the durability of the screen and I love it!!!
Will the EVO's screen have they same awesome tough screen??

Dan330 said:
since we are comparing HERO and EVO... and that we know they will have the same kind of screen...
The Hero's screen is very tough and scratch resistant. I have seen and tested the durability of the screen and I love it!!!
Will the EVO's screen have they same awesome tough screen??
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yes it should, the hd2 has the same screen, and it's basically a hardware clone of that phone, very nice and tough. HTC has done very wise in going with the tempered glass, costs more, but definitely worth the added cost.
I heard the moto droid has an even tougher screen with their "gorilla glass" technology. I haven't seen one first hand so I can't compare, but after 2 face first drops from waist height with no screen protector, the hero's screen is as nice as the day I got it. I'm hopeing I can say the same for the evo once I get it, but I'm fairly confident it will.

hd2 tough screen video
There's a video out there somewhere of a guy hammering his hd2 screen with a key and not a scratch.
hd2 extended battery actually gave it the kick stand. I imagine the an evo extended battery will have one too.
I wonder if it will stand up on its own in the portrait orientation like my Mogul does (it has sort of a foot). Doesn't look like it from the pictures.

Manicmobileaddict said:
There's a video out there somewhere of a guy hammering his hd2 screen with a key and not a scratch.
hd2 extended battery actually gave it the kick stand. I imagine the an evo extended battery will have one too.
I wonder if it will stand up on its own in the portrait orientation like my Mogul does (it has sort of a foot). Doesn't look like it from the pictures.
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No, but it does look like the kickstand might work with EVO in portrait or landscape orientation. We won't know for sure until we can get our hands on it.

Hero Battery life is crap.
On my Hero, I get about 3/4 a day's worth of battery... but that might because I am running rooted 2.1 on the device that is not optimized for my phone, but as long as the phone can get me through one full day on the device, I will be fine.

Manicmobileaddict said:
There's a video out there somewhere of a guy hammering his hd2 screen with a key and not a scratch.
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Lol, people act amazed every time they see this done to a glass screen, and it makes me wonder just what they're being taught in science class these days. Glass is harder than the metal your keys are made from so of course it won't scratch. Same thing with razor blades and pretty much any other metal they throw it at in videos like these. What they don't show you is that sand will still tear your screen a new arsehole. Unless you live somewhere absolutely devoid of sand, this phone is still going to need a protector or a slip case.

I've never had problems with my screen getting scratched without a protector. Back on topic though I'm a little worried about the evo's battery life. I get great life on my hero but with all the added goodies I know the evo will get far less. Fortunately I'm rarely without a power source so unless it's totally horrible I'll deal with it.

Evo without 4G?
I live in an area without WiMax (for now), so do you guys think that if I don't have the WiMax radio on it will get at least a days worth of battery?

I read the Touch Pro 2 Battery will work on the EVO anyone know if that's true? I don't remember if numbers of it but I am wanting to say 1400 and i have an extra one that's less..

Rose4uKY said:
I read the Touch Pro 2 Battery will work on the EVO anyone know if that's true? I don't remember if numbers of it but I am wanting to say 1400 and i have an extra one that's less..
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The EVO uses a RHOD160 1500mAH battery... The battery commonly found in the TP2, I believe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677678

ihakr said:
I live in an area without WiMax (for now), so do you guys think that if I don't have the WiMax radio on it will get at least a days worth of battery?
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Not having WiMax or having WiMax will have no significant impact on battery life at all. I have no idea what your phone use habits are so it would be hard to say if you'd get a day out of it or not.

Thanks, So even my generic extra would work then?
keatre said:
The EVO uses a RHOD160 1500mAH battery... The battery commonly found in the TP2, I believe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677678
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Sebrina said:
Not having WiMax or having WiMax will have no significant impact on battery life at all. I have no idea what your phone use habits are so it would be hard to say if you'd get a day out of it or not.
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Technically speaking, if you were to turn the WiMAX antennas off, you would increase battery life. The Evo offers the ability to connect to 4G and if not, then 3G... OR... Just 3G, thus turning the WiMAX antennas off.
Will this increase it significantly? Can't really tell you much yet.
Rose4uKY said:
Thanks, So even my generic extra would work then?
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As long as your extra is a RHOD160 1500 mAh, you should be fine -- no worries.

keatre said:
Technically speaking, if you were to turn the WiMAX antennas off, you would increase battery life. The Evo offers the ability to connect to 4G and if not, then 3G... OR... Just 3G, thus turning the WiMAX antennas off.
Will this increase it significantly? Can't really tell you much yet.
As long as your extra is a RHOD160 1500 mAh, you should be fine -- no worries.
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If you turned your 4G radio off your 3G radio would take over and I don't see a significant improvement there, now if you turned all data radios off you would definitely see an improvement but at what cost? You'd basically be carrying around a phone with no data capabilities.

I am not sure about the battery. I thought the touch pro 2 battery was the one that works in the hero. It would be surprising to find the hero battery working in the EVO although I would not complain.

Sebrina said:
If you turned your 4G radio off your 3G radio would take over and I don't see a significant improvement there, now if you turned all data radios off you would definitely see an improvement but at what cost? You'd basically be carrying around a phone with no data capabilities.
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you can specify what type of connection in the stock image of sprint android devices. You can tell it 1x or evdo or auto, I would venture to guess they will have a similar option to disable 4g in areas it's not available in.

johnsongrantr said:
you can specify what type of connection in the stock image of sprint android devices. You can tell it 1x or evdo or auto, I would venture to guess they will have a similar option to disable 4g in areas it's not available in.
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I think that turning the 4g radio off in areas with no 4g rather then leave it on would help battery life, thus it wouldn't be looking for a 4g network all the time

My one that came with the phone says RHOD160 1500 MAH . The generic one says 1400 mAh 3.7 V. And under the ID number it says HTC with numbers and letters. So will 1400 not work? Reason I am asking is one extra battery is all I will really need. I have this cradle that charges the extra battery now while my Touch Pro 2 is in the cradle/ But my friend is getting the same phone switching from a BB Tour. I said oh I don't need 2 extra batteries I'll give you one of mine which of course was going to be the generic one. But then I thought about buying back my phone to Sprint when I get the EVO which is 82 bucks. Almost as much as selling it for a 100.. So I don't know what to do yet..
As long as your extra is a RHOD160 1500 mAh, you should be fine -- no worries.[/QUOTE]

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UnOffical- Offical Battery Use for the Evo

I will be getting the Evo when it will be coming out and I and probably 100 other people are worried about the battery life of this monster. What we know is this guy has a huge screen, a WiMax radio and a 1 GHz processor that will suck up the battery life crazy. However, HTC has made sure to put in a 1500 mAh battery that is almost as big as the phone. Coming from the Pre this is comforting but I am still kinda skeptical about the battery life if this monster.
So the purpose of this thread is for all of those lucky people who already have a Evo to post there experiences with the life of this superphone. What I need of you is normal daily battery life with 3G and 4G, normal screen brighness, how much you use internet, email check frequency, and anything else you what to mention. This will really help alot of people out here who are potential Evo owners.
Oh, and Thanks in advance!!!!
EDIT to moderators: This maybe a good thread to make a sticky.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY35HEV4-BK
This is the beast of a battery I'm planning to get for my future Evo. Can't wait to see what 2000 mAh of juice will do to its durability .
Mecha2142 said:
This is the beast of a battery I'm planning to get for my future Evo. Can't wait to see what 2000 mAh of juice will do to its durability .
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Keep in mind: this battery will add 25-33% to the thickness.
The extra 3 to 4 mm of thickness would make the Evo as thick as the G1 which to me is no problem at all considering my current phone is the G1 WITH an extended battery.
robertc1965 said:
Keep in mind: this battery will add 25-33% to the thickness.
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Not much of a problem for me; if anything, it will make the Evo easier to hold in the hand.
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Keep in mind: this battery will add 25-33% to the thickness.
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That just may be perfect for the protruding camera lens many are worried about!
Well I live in a 3g area and work in a 4g area. I have a 2 hour drive each way and half way I hit 4g. Right now if I just stay on 3g the battery can last me all day with normal usage. I usually only charge the device while I'm driving home from work so I can listen to my music or podcasts. I'd say on normal usage you get about 12 hours. That's what I get at least. But here's a solution for you. The Evo takes a normal HTC Hero or Touch Pro 2 battery. I bought a TP2 battery on eBay for about $5. Now all I need to do is make sure I keep one charged and the other charged and in my car. Then I can swap if I need to.
Also note that as of now, 4g sucks battery big time. I think this is a bug in the software so once they fix that then we'll be fine. But right now if you leave 4g on permanently you probably only get about 4 hrs. Just a warning.
Thx for the comments so far! My experience with the Pre, which had alot of battery bugs at the start, says that after all the bugs are worked out it will give you 1-3 hours more. So with 4G running 5-6 hours strait is an ok deal. Just the most important thing to me right now is just to have at least 12 hours of usage with a far amount of browsing on 4G at the time.
I previously owned an HD2, which is nearly identical to the EVO 4G except for OS, and thought battery life was pretty good. Got at least a day out of it and I was on it all the time (wifi connection mostly).
this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.
turn said:
this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.
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Ha ha. Yeah toilets and phones usually don't mix. Unless it's WinMo in which case thats where it belongs
But yeah my battery has been very good to me. Definitely can't complain. On a side note it does take a considerable longer amount of time to charge than the Hero I was using but that only makes sense.
Yesterday I took my Evo to work with me for the first time since receiving it Friday. It had a full charge when I left the house at about 340pm. At about 1030pm, I got the message to connect the phone to the charger. In between that time span, I did some web browsing and sent some text messages (I love the Evo keyboard). I didn't make any calls because I'm still carrying my Palm Pre with me until the 4th when I can get my service switched to my Evo. But anyway the Evo lasted a lot longer than my Palm Pre. It probably would have even lasted longer but I had some programs pulling information every 15mins and some every 2 hours. So I set all them to pull information at longer intervals. So I'm going to see how long it'll take before I get that message again. But so far the battery that came with Evo serves me fine.
chuckhriczko said:
Well I live in a 3g area and work in a 4g area. I have a 2 hour drive each way and half way I hit 4g. Right now if I just stay on 3g the battery can last me all day with normal usage. I usually only charge the device while I'm driving home from work so I can listen to my music or podcasts. I'd say on normal usage you get about 12 hours. That's what I get at least. But here's a solution for you. The Evo takes a normal HTC Hero or Touch Pro 2 battery. I bought a TP2 battery on eBay for about $5. Now all I need to do is make sure I keep one charged and the other charged and in my car. Then I can swap if I need to.
Also note that as of now, 4g sucks battery big time. I think this is a bug in the software so once they fix that then we'll be fine. But right now if you leave 4g on permanently you probably only get about 4 hrs. Just a warning.
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I have the Hero 1800mAh battery in my Hero and it's been a champ so far. Going to grab another one for my Evo once I pick it up this Friday.
turn said:
this is pretty surprising that people are getting this much out of the battery.
i was figuring maybe four or so hours max. i can't even last a whole day on my droid with low usage, but the fact i dropped it in the toilet could have something to do with it.
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What are you doing with a phone in a bathroom? Jerk off material?
As the owner of a Sprint Hero, I was very happy to discover that the battery is interchangeable with my Evo.
When I actually tested out the battery (second day of ownership): I was at 36% remaining after 14 hours of moderate use (auto-backlight, occasional texting, reading emails, installed a few apps, browsing XDA, etc). Some observations: The first 10-15% will drain more quickly than the others, incredibly intense apps like 3D gaming will extremely quickly drain the battery (like 6% in half of an hour), and keep your brightness on 20% or so because auto seems to always keep it very bright.
Yesterday I tried the typical "full discharge" test since people seem to rave about it, and I don't see any harm. I will see how this goes today.
jigglywiggly said:
What are you doing with a phone in a bathroom? Jerk off material?
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Ha ha. Ironic how someone named jigglywiggly said this And honestly, why not? That should be a selling point of this phone ha ha
chuckhriczko said:
Ha ha. Ironic how someone named jigglywiggly said this And honestly, why not? That should be a selling point of this phone ha ha
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Hell, that's the whole purpose of the kickstand, right?
TheBiles said:
Hell, that's the whole purpose of the kickstand, right?
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Ha ha. Amen brother
i had it on top of the toilet playing music while i showered...or so the story goes. lolol

Battery life is GREAT, until you use it?!

This is not another thread about battery life obsession. It's more about a curiosity.
I have my Evo tuned so that it has great battery life on standby. When I use it for anything--SMS, data, local apps--the battery drains very fast.
I know that data, CPU, and display are the major consumers, but...
I have a Nexus One, with also a 1Ghz Snapdragon, and almost exactly the same loaded apps. Same screen resolution, both on 2.2. Both have 1500mAh battery. The only difference is the display technology and radio (GSM/EDGE/HSPA vs. CDMA/1xRTT/EVDO).
When used equally, the N1's battery does not drain nearly as fast as the Evo. How come? I know AMOLED is supposed be more power efficient, but by that much? I know CDMA can be less efficient, but again, by that much?
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Duh! Edited from Hummingbird to Snapdragon (got confused-I just picked up an Epic which has Hummingbird). Thanks for correcting.
They both use Snapdragon, Hummingbird is Samsungs CPU codename, it's based on the same architecture but uses a smaller process.
What software are you running?
Same exact problem as OP...this baffles me.
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Systemfraud said:
Same exact problem as OP...this baffles me.
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Is it something new, or has this always been happening?
Was it after the new update or kernel WHATEVER, that you flashed?
If you’re running the stock kernel, do you think the fact that the screen is physically bigger may have something to do with the difference? I’ve always accounted the difference in the battery drain speed (between screen on and screen off) to the fact that most of us are running tweaked kernels that are overclocked when the screen on (with 5 point multi-touch, etc), and underclocked with the screen off.
The problem with battery life issues is that most of the time it can be just a perception and not scientific evidence at all.
Personally, I had an iPhone 3GS prior to getting an EVO and I would say the same exact thing happened with my iPhone. Especially when I was playing games. It doesn't seem to happen with my EVO.
Even seemingly silly things like the Battery Icon can help with the perception that battery life on the phone is bad. Since it only has 4 levels, it kind of tricks your mind into thinking your battery is draining really fast. Try flashing this.
Scientifically, The difference in battery life running the same exact apps under the same exact conditions would be almost negligible between an Evo and a Nexus one. You could even test them side by side and see for yourself.
Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
- There's a huge misconception that AMOLED Screens use a lot less battery than regular LCDs, but in fact, that's only when the screen is showing LOTS of black color. During a web browser session with lots of white webpage viewing, AMOLED has no Power consumption advantage over LCD.
Signal is a HUGE contributor. I get about 12 hours out of my battery 3-4 out of 5 bars. I went to the sand dunes and had 5 bars and my phone lasted 28 hours.
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Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
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there are some variables here - my router at home sucks, so I actually get better signal (and battery) with 3g and not wifi unless I'm in the same room as the router. Like the guy above me said, signal plays a huge part in it.
btw, were you really one of the few people that had an n-gage?
fachadick said:
btw, were you really one of the few people that had an n-gage?
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hahaha yeah. Still have it shoved in my closet, actually. I LOVED it.
zeuzinn said:
hahaha yeah. Still have it shoved in my closet, actually. I LOVED it.
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Man that's a lot of phones...
Plancy said:
Is it something new, or has this always been happening?
Was it after the new update or kernel WHATEVER, that you flashed?
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Seems like it's always been problem for me..
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What software are you running?
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When I run Handcent, N1 uses about 20% less battery over ~400 messages. Browsing sees similar results. No exotic apps and I keep close eye of what is running/syncing in the background.
Plancy said:
Is it something new, or has this always been happening?
Was it after the new update or kernel WHATEVER, that you flashed?
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I too, have seen this from day one, running all stock ROMs.
zeuzinn said:
The problem with battery life issues is that most of the time it can be just a perception and not scientific evidence at all.
Even seemingly silly things like the Battery Icon can help with the perception that battery life on the phone is bad. Since it only has 4 levels, it kind of tricks your mind into thinking your battery is draining really fast.
Scientifically, The difference in battery life running the same exact apps under the same exact conditions would be almost negligible between an Evo and a Nexus one. You could even test them side by side and see for yourself.
Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
- There's a huge misconception that AMOLED Screens use a lot less battery than regular LCDs, but in fact, that's only when the screen is showing LOTS of black color. During a web browser session with lots of white webpage viewing, AMOLED has no Power consumption advantage over LCD.
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On both phones, I have a % battery gauge. I use both phones in good coverage area and have observed them over weeks of use. I would use one phone for the day, do the exact same thing, use the other phone the next, and consistently see the N1 having 20-30% more battery at the end of the day. I'm thinking of loading "current widget" to see the drain rate between the two phones.
On the subject of radios: I have seen manufatures list longer battery life for EDGE vs. HSPA and the same for 1x over EVDO. Also I [think] usually see longer standby times for a comparable GSM/UTMS phone over CDMA (e.g., Touch Pro2 on GSM/UMTS vs. Touch Pro2 on CDMA).
When one says that EV is less power hungry than 1x, are we talking about a time-use comparison or efficiency? Example: 1Mb download, 1x takes, say, 1 minute, while EV takes 10 seconds. Yes, for that download, EV took less power. But if one were to have 1x & EV both running for one minute, which takes more power? I ask because I remember seeing EV transmitting at higher power than 1x.

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This is the battery life I got on Sprint's new Evo 2600mah extended battery with medium use. This was taken with 5% left on the battery.
Nice... i cant sacrifice the size for it though
Have you found a cover for the Evo with the extended back.
Seido makes a case but its really pricey.
yea not worth the increased size imho still nice battery life
CheesyNutz said:
yea not worth the increased size imho still nice battery life
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Same here. Anything bigger than stock is too big.
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No I have not found a case.
The battery is not something I would want to use on a daily basis but for traveling or if your going to be without a charger for an extended period of time it will be nice.
jdh10475 said:
No I have not found a case.
The battery is not something I would want to use on a daily basis but for traveling or if your going to be without a charger for an extended period of time it will be nice.
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I always keep a backup battery in my wallet, heh. I bought the 1800mAh battery from htcexpress that is said to last longer than the original, and you don't need another back.
I have the 3500 battery (for about 6 weeks now) and I don't notice the bigger back. It actually makes the phone feel better in my hand. The extra battery life is great. I don't use any kind of case or screen protector anymore. The phoneis doing just fine.
ghodzilla5150 said:
I have the 3500 battery (for about 6 weeks now) and I don't notice the bigger back. It actually makes the phone feel better in my hand. The extra battery life is great. I don't use any kind of case or screen protector anymore. The phoneis doing just fine.
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Same here, I was skeptical at first, but I like being able to actually use my phone. The extra bulk isn't bad.
what's the highest mAh i can get with stock back cover.
i believe 2200, but not sure... i know there is an 1800....
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what's the highest mAh i can get with stock back cover.
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1800 for sure any more and the battery manufacturer might start stretching the truth about the actual mah especially if its a china battery.
Looks like someone has got 2000mah in stock size, haven't tried it yet, anyone?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2000mAh-Battery...ps=63&clkid=4753139537248905945#ht_4694wt_905
wow, Thats redic. Im thinking about getting one myself.. Or atleast for the girlfriend as she never remembers to put her phone on the charger.
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1800 for sure any more and the battery manufacturer might start stretching the truth about the actual mah especially if its a china battery.
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I have an 1800mah chinese battery... I'd say its about 1% better than the factory evo battery. Blah
Stop complaining about a bigger back if u havent actually felt it IN HAND. Bigger battery back feels GREAT and makes the phone more manly. As adam carolla would say "in 50 years we'll all be chicks"! (no to mention the black on white on black looks sooooo sweet on my white evo!
I switched back to my standard battery today and it was at 50% about a 1/3 through the day.
Yeah, the Sprint extended battery is great. It's a Li-Polymer.
Li-Polymer would be horrible with a device that requires much charging...

Evo Shift vs. evo 4g

I'm thinking of switching to sprint, which means a new phone (yay) and as I browse my phone options I hear a lot of good things about the Evo. My question for you guys is, is the evo shift pretty much the same as the evo just with the slide out keyboard? is one somehow "better" in some aspects then the other? I would love to have the keyboard but to be honest I usually use the on screen one anyways on my current phone (Tmobile G2).
My second question is, which other phones would you say are worth considering as well?
Lastly, I'm also thinking of switching to Verizon when the Thunderbolt comes out. The main reason I'm switching is because I'm pissed off that Tmobile is cutting my internet speed after I reach 5 GB bandwidth and I know that Sprint and Verizon are the two providers that don't do that. However It appears that Verizon will charge you a higher fee once you go over 10gb bandwidth, which would be ok if the Thunderbolt is really cool
HTC EVO & HTC EVO Shift 4G
Here's everything you'll need for comparing and contrasting the HTC EVO along side the HTC EVO Shift 4G.
http://developer.sprint.com/site/global/devices/handsets/handsets.jsp
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I'm thinking of switching to sprint, which means a new phone (yay) and as I browse my phone options I hear a lot of good things about the Evo. My question for you guys is, is the evo shift pretty much the same as the evo just with the slide out keyboard? is one somehow "better" in some aspects then the other? I would love to have the keyboard but to be honest I usually use the on screen one anyways on my current phone (Tmobile G2).
My second question is, which other phones would you say are worth considering as well?
Lastly, I'm also thinking of switching to Verizon when the Thunderbolt comes out. The main reason I'm switching is because I'm pissed off that Tmobile is cutting my internet speed after I reach 5 GB bandwidth and I know that Sprint and Verizon are the two providers that don't do that. However It appears that Verizon will charge you a higher fee once you go over 10gb bandwidth, which would be ok if the Thunderbolt is really cool
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Might want to hold off until CTIA and Sprints announcements there to see if you want one of those phones.
http://goo.gl/xwHrG
I agree with the post above, you may want to wait as Sprint will be announcing 2 new phones. The EVO 3D does sound interesting.
If you can't wait, I looked at both the EVO and EVO Shift and decided on the EVO Shift. The extra battery life alone is what sells me on this device. I also prefer the size of the Shift. As as added bonus the Shift has benchmarked higher than the EVO, and the keyboard has come in handy on many occasion.
There are many selling points to the EVO as well, primarily the larger screen, but pound for pound the Shift was and still is the better choice IMHO.
Try and buy a phone outright from bb and you will pay significantly more than a corporate store.
My 2 cents...
The evo with the sprint branded extended life battery makes up for the evo's biggest con, battery life. Only bad thing so far is I can't find a case for the fatter evo. My eyesight is getting worse so smaller screens and fonts aren't fun to deal with. I do have a shift and it's a nice little phone. I thought I wanted a keyboard phone but I'm growing out of that. Now, the thing I find the keyboard good for is playing emulator games. It's too frustrating with on screen controls with console games, for me.
Another feature to consider with the evo is it is supposedly one of the few phones that with wireless tether, it runs in infrastructure mode and not ad hoc like most the rest. You could, theoretically, run a xoom or other android phones on wifi with the evo as the access point. From what I've been reading, the xoom can't see ad hoc. Once again I digress.
I am willing to wager some money that the new Evo will be a much better phone then the Thunderbolt. I went with the shift because by the time the device comes out my 1 year upgrade will be rolling around again. Also I remember seeing something about Sprint having a cap on 3G speeds after 5 GB of data usage, but 4G is all you can eat. All phones can be run as Wifi Tether when Rooted, or you can pay Sprint for the unrooted version, which the Evo and Evo Shift both do.
Evo shift.. has much better battery life!!!
herbthehammer said:
Another feature to consider with the evo is it is supposedly one of the few phones that with wireless tether, it runs in infrastructure mode and not ad hoc like most the rest. You could, theoretically, run a xoom or other android phones on wifi with the evo as the access point. From what I've been reading, the xoom can't see ad hoc. Once again I digress.
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really? The Xoom won't be able to see the shift's WiFi signal? I know the iPad can, because I use it all the time through my phone. That'd be yet another shortcoming of the Xoom.
Double 0 said:
Evo shift.. has much better battery life!!!
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did you use an evo extensively before using the shift?
anyone else perhaps switch from an evo to a shift? Im looking for battery life, i use my device all the time and recharging in my 10a class is getting annoying.(I leave my house at 6.30a)
I need better battery life without adding bulk so i dont want an aftermarket battery. been thinking heading to the blackberry camp because i loved the battery life on my tour.
is the shift significantly better on battery consumption than the evo? advise please.thank you!
tailsthecat3 said:
did you use an evo extensively before using the shift?
anyone else perhaps switch from an evo to a shift? Im looking for battery life, i use my device all the time and recharging in my 10a class is getting annoying.(I leave my house at 6.30a)
I need better battery life without adding bulk so i dont want an aftermarket battery. been thinking heading to the blackberry camp because i loved the battery life on my tour.
is the shift significantly better on battery consumption than the evo? advise please.
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I picked up the Shift last week, came from the Evo which I've had since last June. The Shift has much better battery life while in use compared to the Evo. With the Shift, if i use the xda app for an hour, I'll see the battery drop 13%-16%. With the Evo it was closer to 20% battery drop. Doing web browsing on the Evo sometimes the battery will drop almost 25% per hour, where as the same usage on the Shift will be less than 20%. Keep in mind battery usage will vary depending on location, signal strength, whether you're using wifi or 3g, etc. In my regular usage I do notice an improvement with the Shift.
I tried pretty much every ROM available for the Evo and had no issues getting through the day without needing to recharge with my regular usage. Battery life was great while the phone was sleeping - charge the phone to 100% at night, unplug and go to bed, wake up and the battery was at 95%. This was using some of the custom kernels available. With the stock rooted ROM on the Shift, I wake up and the battery is at 93%. I'm sure changing to an undervolted kernel will at least match the Evo when it comes to battery life while sleeping.
Bottomline is with heavy or moderate usage, battery life with the Shift is noticeably better. If you barely use your phone both phones can easily go over 24 hours.
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Hey abanh... is it bad to keep ur phone on the plug? Does it wear out the battery?
lilgrass71 said:
Hey abanh... is it bad to keep ur phone on the plug? Does it wear out the battery?
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No - HTC designed it so when your battery reaches 100% it will stop charging. So that means even though your phone is still sitting on the charger and the battery meter indicates 100%, it's actually not charging until the battery drops below a certain threshhold (I'm thinking 90%). The battery meter will still be at 100% even though it actually dropped somewhere into the 90 percent range. Thats why when you take your phone off the charger the battery drops down close to 90% so quick.
I take my phone off the charger every night, but when i wake up in the morning i put it back on the charger while i get ready for work. 15 minutes on the charger in the morning will put the battery closer to 100% to start the day versus leaving it charging all night.
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I see. Makes sense... thanks

Evo 4G LTE Battery Replacement

Hello, I was wondering if someone knows more about this than I do (I know nothing so wouldn't be hard) but as we have seen, the 4G LTE has an embedded 2000 mah battery. My current Evo 4G has the joy of the 3500mah extended battery. I was wondering the possibility of an extended battery for the 4G LTE. Right now I'm between the Nexus or the LTE and I'm not sure the awesome features make up for the lack of ginormous battery. Any ideas?
It's unibody aluminum no extended battery possibility here
smc333 said:
It's unibody aluminum no extended battery possibility here
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Who knows maybe Sprint drops evo4gLTE with an extended battery like the razr maxx
Maybe if you disassemble the phone, then it could be removed and a bigger one added, that is if they would make batteries in the same size and all, always a possibility.
What about a company like S**do,
Making a complete oversized replacement case to accomodate a larger battery?
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kinda what I'm hoping for random lol. if anyone can do it, it would be seidio and I would be most happy. 2000 might be nice but it doesnt beat 3500...
I would imagine....
I would hope that among the new accessories would be a recharging station device like the Palm Pre had. I know that Powermat is out there. Perhaps something else is in the works. I wish the Beats Audio headphones would come with the phone though.
Our Magic 8 Ball doesn't work any better than your Magic 8 Ball.
My magic 8 ball is working just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23813998&postcount=2
from what iv read its a 2650mah, not 2000mah. With a non removable battery i think we will see an explosion of cases that have a built in battery like there are for the iphone. I have one for my OG evo. Its made by xpal and its called a powerskin. I got it at bestbuy.com for $59. it has a built in 1500 mah battery. along with my $1750 internal, that gives me 3250 mah and is plenty good enough for me to last 20 hours or so of moderate use.
http://www.xpalpower.com/
nivek64 said:
I would hope that among the new accessories would be a recharging station device like the Palm Pre had. I know that Powermat is out there. Perhaps something else is in the works. I wish the Beats Audio headphones would come with the phone though.
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Didn't they remove the 5 pin connector from the new Evo?
Not being able to swap batteries is a deal breaker for me. I will not be getting one myself.
The newer processor uses a lot less juice, and the battery is bigger then the original to begin with.
You don't need a bigger battery, It's already going to outlast the OG evo by a longshot. Not saying it wouldnt still be nice to be swappable. But as far as battery life is concerned, its a non issue.
Some of us go thru the battery on the EVo pretty fast. The longest I ever been able to go is about 7-8 hours of hard use. I have been in places that only thing that kept me going for another 6-7 hours was the extra battery. I can;t see this 2000ma battery lasting much more that the one I have now.
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The newer processor uses a lot less juice, and the battery is bigger then the original to begin with.
You don't need a bigger battery, It's already going to outlast the OG evo by a longshot. Not saying it wouldnt still be nice to be swappable. But as far as battery life is concerned, its a non issue.
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ejc1214 said:
Some of us go thru the battery on the EVo pretty fast. The longest I ever been able to go is about 7-8 hours of hard use. I have been in places that only thing that kept me going for another 6-7 hours was the extra battery. I can;t see this 2000ma battery lasting much more that the one I have now.
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The evo 4g Lte has a 2650mah battery not 2000
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
The evo 4g Lte has a 2650mah battery not 2000
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HTC's website lists it at 2000.
That's what I read too. Anyway, 260 is not twice what I have now with 2 batteries and I just about run thru both on some occasions. I would think faster processor will use more juice.
soonerfreak said:
HTC's website lists it at 2000.
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It was stated as getting a 2650 in the announcement as well as the SD card slot those were the 2 biggest changes over the one x aside from the ugly black and red aluminum unibody with kickstand read here
http://m.androidcentral.com/could-be-next-generation-htc-evo-sprint
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
It was stated as getting a 2650 in the announcement as well as the SD card slot those were the 2 biggest changes over the one x aside from the ugly black and red aluminum unibody with kickstand read here
http://m.androidcentral.com/could-be-next-generation-htc-evo-sprint
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check here and see the video as well, that link you posted was prior to it being actually announced I believe,,,
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/04/htc-evo-4g-lte-preview-video/
check at about 4:10 it will tell you the battery size
excerpt: Speaking of correcting glaring flaws, the company assured us that, unlike past models (ahem, Thunderbolt), this guy should have ample runtime, courtesy of a 2,000mAh battery -- a sizable improvement over the One X's 1,800mAh juicepack
Yea I saw they changed it a little bit ago when I found the HTC page was working with more than a pic up now earlier this am it was just a photo with no specs, not worth upgrading to for me the only big difference between it and my et4g is the lte and my area won't see it til probably next year so no point in wasting the upgrade on a device that's not a drastic change HTC fumbled again IMO just like with the 3d and the design, only this time they just brought similar specs 9 months late idk what the hell they've been doing but they are falling way behind the curve these days, they burst out of the gate with the OG evo then fell flat on their face like they forgot to tie their shoes before the race
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