How to use CRTL keys with these embedded keyboards? For example, copy/paste .. CRTL C and CRTL V ..
I hope this is not the W7 style ..
I don't think any software-keyboard WM device has had CTRL keys on-screen, historically because of the lack of multi-touch on resistive screens I imagine. You'll just have to tap-and-hold to cut and paste, I'm afraid.
ianjd said:
I don't think any software-keyboard WM device has had CTRL keys on-screen, historically because of the lack of multi-touch on resistive screens I imagine. You'll just have to tap-and-hold to cut and paste, I'm afraid.
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Thanks for your reply, but tap-and-hold doesn't work i.e. on calendar. How do you copy or duplicate events?
You are correct- most times you need to paste (such as entering long registration codes etc) the entry boxs don't have a paste option, though its worth tapping/holding just in case a context menu pops up.
The original WinMo keyboard did have a 'Ctrl' key but most of the current ones don't. One that does, and happily one that works in the HD Mini's screen resolution is SPB Keyboard. This has a 'Ctrl' key on the main keyboard.
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Has anybody worked out if the keyboard has a Ctrl key or a function that works like Ctrl , handy when quitting apps eg Ctrl Q.
Or editing.
I couldnt find it when I used the device.
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That's very strange because I have it on my MDA II's touchscreen keyboard. Are you talking about the touchscreen keyboard that you have to pop up by pressing the up arrow in the lower right-hand corner in the Messages app for instance?
I wonder whether this feature would also be ROM-dependent.
i meant the hard keyboard not sip. its on sip but when i used the universal i couldnt see it.
Yes I am interested in the Ctrl button on the universal as well, I owned a XDAIIs and found the keyboard on that didn't have the Ctrl key either so you can't do CUT/COPY or paste unless there is another way. I cut and paste heaps so the keyboard was useless to me on the XDAIIs.
Any one know if there is another way to do this on the Universal Keyboard.
what a wind up this is, cant believe they missed the ctrl button off the proper keyboard.
The keyboard has Cut/copy/paste function, so I am happy.
Jasjar is the most awesome PPC Phone yet.
there is a screen tap key (a bit like the right mouse click key on a full computer) this brings up the menu option, with copy and cut in it !! then you can just pres the relevant letter on the keyboard, thus having the same effect (ie press a function key then C or T or V).
PS its Fn [Space] key
cool... i wondered what that key did! that is useful!
[ctrl] is used for more things than copy+paste.
I use my Exec to communicate with *NIX servers using Pocket PuTTY. [ctrl] is kind of essential.
Agree, using putty is a nightmare without a ctrl key. Is there any way of mapping another key to do the same function
another experince that i want to share. to make it easy while using the two keys and the keyboard. you can use Hot Keys for example:
at File Explorer if you want to copy file press menu key then press "i" button then press "C" button.
thats all :lol:
NiGhTmArE
Wish they had put a "ctrl" key on the keyboard though. The JASJAR is no use with Putty for controlling *nix machines without being able to do ctrl+c or ctrl+d etc.
rilot said:
Wish they had put a "ctrl" key on the keyboard though. The JASJAR is no use with Putty for controlling *nix machines without being able to do ctrl+c or ctrl+d etc.
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I agree, a CTRL key would be useful. Perhaps it's possible to remap a key on the keyboard to perform the functions of CTRL? For example, I never use the caps lock key so that would be ideal. Perhaps I'll look into this, been playing with the .NET compact framework quite a lot recently.
I had a try with AEKMap but it couldn't send the correct key code.
The code for ctrl is 0011
sl9 said:
I agree, a CTRL key would be useful. Perhaps it's possible to remap a key on the keyboard to perform the functions of CTRL? For example, I never use the caps lock key so that would be ideal. Perhaps I'll look into this, been playing with the .NET compact framework quite a lot recently.
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If you could figure this out you'd be my hero. The lack of a ctrl key is bugging me.
I am using full qwerty to input text and it is rather fast.
But sometimes I need to execute the CTRL+A combination (to select all the message texts lines for further editing/deleting/etc).
How to do it?
Thanks a lot!
Saulo866
HTC phones currently dont have multitouch screens.. so this kind of key combinations cannot be done
Don't have multitouch, but in "classic" keyboard (not the fine HTC one, easy to use with finger), there is a CTRL key: press it, it's selected then press A for Select All, C to cut, V to paste, ...
But it can be done only in the classic mode. The nice and big HTC input don't have a CTRL key: it's a shame!
i find using stylus to select some txt quiet convient, and to select all, do menu/edit/select all
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But it can be done only in the classic mode. The nice and big HTC input don't have a CTRL key: it's a shame!
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well that's the trade off, if you want all those optional random keys, ctrl, alt, this, that. then your main keyboard won't be "nice and big" and finger friendly.
i just press-hold the screen until the pop up menu appears then select er select all
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i just press-hold the screen until the pop up menu appears then select er select all
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Yes it works but not in all softwares, and not in many textbox, user input field.
thanks to all of you!
I am very happy to have found the solution to replace CTRL-A: just tap and hold the screen, as some of you adviced.
One more question: how to implement CTRL C (copy) and CTRL V (paste)?
Thanks
Saulo866
saulo866 said:
I am very happy to have found the solution to replace CTRL-A: just tap and hold the screen, as some of you adviced.
One more question: how to implement CTRL C (copy) and CTRL V (paste)?
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Same as above, once you have something selected, tap'n'hold, chose cut/copy, then tap'n'hold, choose paste.
Easy
Thanks Gadge!
One more (probably silly) question: why in my kaiser I can select some messages in INBOX (to delete them for example) by simply swiping my stylus-pen and here, on Touch HH, I cannot? Is it because of implementation of touch flo?
Thanks again!
Saulo866
Has anyone here tried alternate software keyboards with the HD2 (other than the ones that come with it)?
For instance, SPB keyboard (giant keys), Fitaly keyboard (different key layout, different kind of prediction), etc.?
Curious to hear your reviews--whether there is any point in getting any of those?
Also, is there any way to get the standard WinMo one back? (I don't mean for all the time, but occasionally it comes in handy. For instance, it has a Ctrl key, which one can use to cut and paste. Touch Ctrl then C, it copies selected text to the clipboard. Ctrl then V pastes them. Etc. I've only seen that Ctrl key on the standard winmo keybd.)
if you have not tried swype yet i would suggest giving it a go.
it works very well on the HD2 and makes inputing text alot easier
try Resco, ive just bought it cos i find it is more accurate and looks alot like the htc original
it has some great features and is only £6.50, theres a 10 day trial on it for testing.
ive found it to be faster to type with less errors, with the same size keys. it also has copy and paste as well as a calculator built in
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Has anyone here tried alternate software keyboards with the HD2 (other than the ones that come with it)?
For instance, SPB keyboard (giant keys), Fitaly keyboard (different key layout, different kind of prediction), etc.?
Curious to hear your reviews--whether there is any point in getting any of those?
Also, is there any way to get the standard WinMo one back? (I don't mean for all the time, but occasionally it comes in handy. For instance, it has a Ctrl key, which one can use to cut and paste. Touch Ctrl then C, it copies selected text to the clipboard. Ctrl then V pastes them. Etc. I've only seen that Ctrl key on the standard winmo keybd.)
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Does anyone know of a iPhone looking keyboard?
I hate, Hate, HATE the arrow keys on the HTC keyboard and the alternatives are not what I am used to.
The layout of the iPhone keyboard is absolutely perfect for me and unlike Android, I cant seem to find a keyboard replacement that has the same layout
Please if anyone knows of one let me know
Considering most of us hate the iphone keyboard, I'm guessing that is why no one has made one. I like the arrows on the htc keyboard, about the only reason I use it.
Have you tried swype?
How about fingerkeyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501434
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Considering most of us hate the iphone keyboard, I'm guessing that is why no one has made one.
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I absolute LOVE the iPhone keyboard! I hate how my right hand has to type awkwardly due to the arrow keys taking up space on the right side of the landscape keyboard. I would much rather just have larger letter keys.
nrfitchett4 said:
Have you tried swype?
How about fingerkeyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501434
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Hmmm I tried the SPB keyboard and the Rescoe keyboard so far but didn't like either one. I want something that has the EXACT same layout of the iPhone if possible.
Edit:
- tried out Fingerkeyboard 2.1 and it doesn't work since it still has the same arrow keys which I HATE and dont want on my keyboard taking up space
- tried out swype but it lags when doing regular typing and doesnt show a letter pop up above the letter you type like the iPhone does.
Anyone else know of a iPhone type keyboard?
Dear follow DZ owner:
Just bought my DZ today, and disappointed to find a hardware problem.
1. the "printing" of the symbol on the hardware keyboard doesn't match with the soft keyboard, this creates a lot of trouble for the user who get used to the standard HTC layout. e.g. # is on S key and $ is on D key while on soft keyboard @ is on S and # is on D
2. the strange thing is the symbol output from the hardware keyboard IS indeed still based on the soft keyboard layout, which means what you type on the hardware keyboard is NOT what you get from output on the screen.
e.g. printing of the # is on the S key, however output generates by long press S is @ and the worst is output by pressing FN + S gives #.
I didn't see anyone discussing this issue. Am I the only one that is bug by this problem/issue???
In your second picture, it shows that your on-screen keyboard is the English keyboard ("EN"). Press the soft key towards bottom left and you should be able to select different languages, is there one that matches better in that list ?
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In your second picture, it shows that your on-screen keyboard is the English keyboard ("EN"). Press the soft key towards bottom left and you should be able to select different languages, is there one that matches better in that list ?
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Sorry, what I was trying to point out is that, when a key combine with FN its output is not the same as long press on a key.
Will remapping keys help fix this problem?
I'm also using HK version, but I don't use the built-in IME since I type in PinYin普通话拼音, didn't notice that issue.
If you wanna have a look at the key-mapping, go
/system/usr/keylayout/vision-keypad-hk.kl
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pull it to your computer and open it with text editor, notepad or UltraEdit etc.
The reason its like this is simple.
The hardware keyboard has its own design, made to make our use easier (according to the guys at HTC), however this keyboard still runs on the SAME software used to run the on screen touch keyboard this is why when you do things like long press you still get certain behaviours of the touch keyboard.
You will either need to remap, or just simply get used to the new layout, it will happen over time.
@OP: your key map doesn't match your physical keyboard.
@Lennyuk: No.
Lennyuk said:
The reason its like this is simple.
The hardware keyboard has its own design, made to make our use easier (according to the guys at HTC), however this keyboard still runs on the SAME software used to run the on screen touch keyboard this is why when you do things like long press you still get certain behaviours of the touch keyboard.
You will either need to remap, or just simply get used to the new layout, it will happen over time.
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That's the whole point, the stupid HTC guy think the new key layout will help the user. The truth is they are re inventing the wheel.
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