Separating volume settings? (Also posted in Leo General) - HD2 General

Is there a way to separate the different volume settings, like system, SMS, reminders, etc.? I listen to music on my HD2 a lot, and I almost deafened myself by bumping the volume up and then getting a text. I like how on my old Dash 3G every option was separate instead of bunched into just the system volume -- Is there a way to do that on the HD2?

System and ring volumes can be seperatied by going to Settings tab/Sound and Display". Switch off "Use single ring/system volume"
Program and button clicks can be set to soft/loud by going to Settings tab/Menu/All Settings/Sounds and Notifications.

I also have this problem. To me, it makes sense having a single volume control that goes from full volume to silent and vibrate.
If I play media, though, volume should be controlled through a different setting, with ringer/notification being the other setting. I noticed windows mobile (or sense, I don't know which one's doing it) will pair media along with notifications and ringer will be left alone, that is, untill you get to silent or vibrate, then both volume levels are applied the same silent or vibrate rule, even media!
I take it for granted now because, before windows mobile, every smartphone and dumbphone I've used allows you to play media when the rest of the volumes are set to silent or vibrate (I personally use vibrate all the time), but then when listening to music I have to pull the phone out of vibrate, which, as OP mentioned, suddenly brings the notifications to full volume too (and I like keeping notifications at full volume when I get off of vibrate mode, for example, when I'm sleeping, and not have to jump to settings to move notifications from soft to loud).
Worse, yet, is that there's no way to create and save a sound profile, which ALL dumbphones do. The only profiles available are the ones under Sounds & Display (where Display is only a button that leads to yet another menu, what gives?!). The closest I got to a profile I use is by setting the ringer to "Vibrate", system volume to 100 and ringer volume to 0 and control "system" volume as necessary with the rocker switch (all my notifications are off until I go to sleep when I have to manually set them all on, sadly). But if I ever, by mistake, press any of the "Profiles" under Sounds & Display, all the settings I had carefully set get thrown out and I have to do it all over again.
Maybe I need to peek under window's actual settings instead of using sense, and maybe I'll find something suitable.
I look forward to a version 6.6 or 6.7, or 6.8 of windows mobile where it retains all it's power, but simple issues such as this, or finger-friendliness are resolved. Microsoft did say they'd continue working on this windows as Mobile Classic (or proffesional, was it?)

Honestly, that was my exact same reaction. I can't believe something so basic, something so simple isn't in the newer Windows Mobile OS, but the old ones had it. Honestly, this is almost a deal-breaker for me.

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pedrovay2003 said:
Is there a way to separate the different volume settings, like system, SMS, reminders, etc.? I listen to music on my HD2 a lot, and I almost deafened myself by bumping the volume up and then getting a text. I like how on my old Dash 3G every option was separate instead of bunched into just the system volume -- Is there a way to do that on the HD2?
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You can go to your START/SETTINGS/SOUND & DISPLAY & unlick where it says use single volume for both settings!

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Actually, that just separates the ringer. I want the SMS, MMS, voicemail notifications, reminders, etc. to ALL be separate. That's where my problem is.

I wish WM6.5 had Android's system of audio control. Volume control for system, ring tone, phone, media. When you're NOT doing anything, the volume control should be for ring tone. When you're on a phone call, it should just handle volume for phone call. When you're playing multimedia, it should adjust media volume.
I'm not a big fan of how WM (or maybe sense) forces the system volume to be linked to the ring volume. I can't have ring as vibrate AND still have some volume for system. It's annoying!

Can anyone help me? In Settings I do not have Sounds & Display anymore...

deroux71 said:
Can anyone help me? In Settings I do not have Sounds & Display anymore...
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use your finger to swipe-scroll the settings list up and down, you'll find it there.

toreone said:
You can go to your START/SETTINGS/SOUND & DISPLAY & unlick where it says use single volume for both settings!
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This does not solve the problem. "Ring" only controls the volume of rings when voice calls come through.
SMS, mms, email, chat, listening to music, etc. is all clumped into the "System" volume.
So if you set it to "single volume for both settings" then phone alerts will come through just as loud as your music. And phone alerts are usually higher pitched and more annoying.
I'm having the exact same issue as the OP... listening to music and then getting this loud sms tone. I came from using an iphone and this problem was an easy fix as the iphone separated phone alerts (ring, sms, email) from headphones/ear piece volume.

pedrovay2003 said:
Is there a way to separate the different volume settings, like system, SMS, reminders, etc.? I listen to music on my HD2 a lot, and I almost deafened myself by bumping the volume up and then getting a text. I like how on my old Dash 3G every option was separate instead of bunched into just the system volume -- Is there a way to do that on the HD2?
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I am a newbie to HD2 but I have the old dash and old Shadows 2007 and 2009 and I agree I don't understand as to why this feature is missing in HD2. I am not sure if I missed it, but I don't see any hack on this one yet..

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No sound but I would like the Alarm...

I would like to use "silence" mode at night, but still have my alarmclock enabled, how would one do this?
If i put the tytn to silent it also silence the alarm, and if I have some sounds I will get the phone signal at night which I don't want to.
This functionallity exists on EVERY other "normal" phone (nokia, ericsson and so on) but not here? why?
I use pocketx photo contacts program, you can set incoming alerts using the call filter feature to silent, but keeps the system volume on.
Try using Pocket Wakeup. It has a volumn control function which, if you set your phone to silent, it will over write it to make it loud. I'm not sure about vibrate, but I'm pretty sure if you were to set the volumn to minimum, the pocket wakeup can push it to whatever you set.
I use a freeware program called Mortplayer which is primarily an audio player but has a great alarm clock function built in too.
You can set the alarm to either play a playlist or a particular file, you can set increasing alarm and you can set the volume to override the system volume too so it doesn't matter if your phone is on silent (although it will leave the volume high after the alarm has increased it). It has a snooze function (set at any interval you want, 5mins, 10mins etc...) too with a very usable skin for switching the alarm off or on to snooze (ie. large screen buttons which you can tap with your fingers in a semi-conscious state)
Really great little program which I have been using for months with no problem and best of all, it is free
Great!! That seems to do it !
cybertron said:
I would like to use "silence" mode at night, but still have my alarmclock enabled, how would one do this?
If i put the tytn to silent it also silence the alarm, and if I have some sounds I will get the phone signal at night which I don't want to.
This functionallity exists on EVERY other "normal" phone (nokia, ericsson and so on) but not here? why?
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One potential way to do this is:
Change just the right slider on volume to lowest at night. keep the other one on high.
Then go to sounds and notifications and disable text and email notification sounds.
Try using Call Filter Alarm. I think you will love the sleep mode...

A way to have alarm sound when on silent/vibrate?

Maybe there is a way to do this, but I'm not aware - does anyone know of a way to enable alarm even when teh phoen is on vibrate or on silent? (this came to me because I set the phone to silent and forgot to turn I was late for work today)
enAlarmPPC
When you mean an application for alarms, then you should really take a look at enAlarmPPC. You can simply force a volume, and it will play sound even if in "vibrate" or "mute".
awesome... I think that's exactly what I need. Thanks
i use vibrate mode all the time, but don't like the fact that it silences your phone. But this is what i have found:
Instead of going into vibrate mode through comm manager or through a "profile" (like from the HTC Touch Today plugin), go to settings and then select Sounds and Notifications. Select Notification tab, and from the drop down menu select Phone: Incoming call and select vibrate. When you do this, your phone vibrate when there is an incoming call but is not silenced for other functions of the phone like alarms, music, etc.
Disadvantage is that it is not 1 simple step, so if you back and forth between ring and vibrate it is not ideal, but if you set it on vibrate all the time like me, it is ideal.
superflysocal said:
i use vibrate mode all the time, but don't like the fact that it silences your phone. But this is what i have found:
Instead of going into vibrate mode through comm manager or through a "profile" (like from the HTC Touch Today plugin), go to settings and then select Sounds and Notifications. Select Notification tab, and from the drop down menu select Phone: Incoming call and select vibrate. When you do this, your phone vibrate when there is an incoming call but is not silenced for other functions of the phone like alarms, music, etc.
Disadvantage is that it is not 1 simple step, so if you back and forth between ring and vibrate it is not ideal, but if you set it on vibrate all the time like me, it is ideal.
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You could probably Mortscript it...
yea, the thing is I always change to vibrate when I'm at work/quiet areas and I'd liek to have a simple profile change button that changes it to a vibrate + ringer.
freakflow said:
yea, the thing is I always change to vibrate when I'm at work/quiet areas and I'd liek to have a simple profile change button that changes it to a vibrate + ringer.
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Give PhoneAlarm a try! Then you can create profiles.
I agree, PhonaAlarm solves it all!!

WM 6.5 profile ring + vibrate doesn't vibrate

Hi all.
I have a brand new HTC Snap and just upgraded the ROM to version 6.5 (french version). When I modify a profile (normal for exemple) and set incoming calls to Ring + Vibrate, when I receive a call it only rings but doesn't vibrate. Note that when I set to Vibrate profile, it vibrates Ok. Does anybody else has this issue ?
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never mind, i found the problem. i think this is a WM 6.5 bug. if you go through the home screen to Profile and change the Normal profile to ring & vibrate it doesn't change. however, if you go through Start -> Settings -> Profile, and change from there, then it works. go figure.
I think you will find that if you use the volume control it will rewrite all the profiles that you set paramates for. The new 6.5 volume control allows you to set a volume, or vibrate, or silent. When you select any of these, it rewrites all profiles to make it work.
I suspect HTC did this, to "enhance" the volume control. Unfortunately they totally messed up with regards the profles, and effectively made them unusuable.
I have now reverted back to 6.1 on my Dash 3G, as I rely on the "automatic" feature of profiles in meetings, everyday.
HTC, or anyone who can help - is there a way to have 6.5 with the 6.1 volume? It seems from what little I can find on the subject in forums, that not many people seem to care about the "profiles" anyway. It's a shame, as this is a big feature in WinMo - the settings you can have for each profile -compared to other OS's.........
Anyone?
cinimod1000 said:
I think you will find that if you use the volume control it will rewrite all the profiles that you set paramates for. The new 6.5 volume control allows you to set a volume, or vibrate, or silent. When you select any of these, it rewrites all profiles to make it work.
I suspect HTC did this, to "enhance" the volume control. Unfortunately they totally messed up with regards the profles, and effectively made them unusuable.
I have now reverted back to 6.1 on my Dash 3G, as I rely on the "automatic" feature of profiles in meetings, everyday.
HTC, or anyone who can help - is there a way to have 6.5 with the 6.1 volume? It seems from what little I can find on the subject in forums, that not many people seem to care about the "profiles" anyway. It's a shame, as this is a big feature in WinMo - the settings you can have for each profile -compared to other OS's.........
Anyone?
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UPDATE:
Looks like the volume rocker actualy updates the registry each time at:
HKCU/ControlPanel/Sound Categories/Notifications OR Reminders.......
Ring vol and vib seem to work ok on Ookba's 2.6 beta rom, but the Reminders and Notifications are screwed up. HTC's fault, not Ookba's. Oh well, back to 6.1again for the moment.....
Any solution out there that anyone knows of? Pleeaassee?!!!!
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Ok, I see the volume rocker problem, but that's not really a problem for me since I don't use it a lot, I just use the 3 profiles Normal, Vibrate and Silent and set the volume permenantly in each profile settings. Thanks for the feedback.
Htc screwed up the profiles in WM 6.5 with their custom volume interface. I had the same problem, it always reverts to HTCs defaults. To fix it you need to perform a registry hack. Under HKLM\services\htcvolume change prefix=VOL to prefix=NOVOL and reboot your phone. This will bypass the HTC Volume overlay and use traditional WM volume interfaces. The only thing you lose is the quick links to silent and vibrate via the volume rocker panel.
azieba said:
Htc screwed up the profiles in WM 6.5 with their custom volume interface. I had the same problem, it always reverts to HTCs defaults. To fix it you need to perform a registry hack. Under HKLM\services\htcvolume change prefix=VOL to prefix=NOVOL and reboot your phone. This will bypass the HTC Volume overlay and use traditional WM volume interfaces. The only thing you lose is the quick links to silent and vibrate via the volume rocker panel.
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Do you know if this fixes the problem where the System Volume does nothing? I upgraded to 6.5 (T-Mobile stock version) and the Ring Volume in the profiles affects both the Ring and the System -- In fact, if you completely mute the System Volume, you still get noise. Does this registry hack fix that, too? If it does, then man, you rock.
I believe so, I have a VZW Ozone and my system volume turned off in my profiles, yet when the phone rings, it rings correctly. I am not sure what system volume is for, so I don't know what to check against when I turned the System Volume up. The fix is easy, I would try it. Reverting is very easy, you just put the registry setting back to VOL. VOL is just a variable that is called when you use the rocker keys and the HTCVolume service is listening for. By changing it, you never initiate the HTCVolume Overlay.
azieba said:
I believe so, I have a VZW Ozone and my system volume turned off in my profiles, yet when the phone rings, it rings correctly. I am not sure what system volume is for, so I don't know what to check against when I turned the System Volume up. The fix is easy, I would try it. Reverting is very easy, you just put the registry setting back to VOL. VOL is just a variable that is called when you use the rocker keys and the HTCVolume service is listening for. By changing it, you never initiate the HTCVolume Overlay.
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Awesome, I'll try this.
If you want to test the system volume, go to a file and act as though you're deleting it. Hear that blip sound it gives you as a warning before you confirm the delete? The System Volume will affect that. On my phone, the System Volume can be completely muted, but if the Ring Volume is turned up, that blip will still be deafening. Kinda sucks when doing stuff like listening to music and then getting a call in the middle of it -- Especially when wearing headphones.
I had to try this out, unfortunately I can't edit the String in the registry. I'm using CeRegistryEditor, maybe someone could suggest another program that may change stuff like that?
If you want a registry editor on the Phone -- PHM Registry Editor is the one I used.
If you want to use a registry editor on your PC (with your phone hooked up via USB), you can use Mobile Registry Editor 1.1
Sorry, it won't let me post URLs
azieba said:
If you want a registry editor on the Phone -- PHM Registry Editor is the one I used.
If you want to use a registry editor on your PC (with your phone hooked up via USB), you can use Mobile Registry Editor 1.1
Sorry, it won't let me post URLs
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No problem : ) Google is easy enough. Sweet, it worked with PHM! THanks ^^
Worked for me
I used the registry hack and it worked great for me. Thanks so much. I was about to go back to WM6.1 or even WM5 because I use the profiles so much and it was driving me nuts! I have WM 6.5 on my first gen dash and it's like a new phone. I love it now!
I am really liking my Dash 3G. The only problem I have had was sometimes on my reminders, the volume would be silent. I tracked it down to when I used the side volume buttons. After making the registry change (using Total Commander) suggested in this thread, I have not had anymore problems.
Thanks!
azieba said:
Htc screwed up the profiles in WM 6.5 with their custom volume interface. I had the same problem, it always reverts to HTCs defaults. To fix it you need to perform a registry hack. Under HKLM\services\htcvolume change prefix=VOL to prefix=NOVOL and reboot your phone. This will bypass the HTC Volume overlay and use traditional WM volume interfaces. The only thing you lose is the quick links to silent and vibrate via the volume rocker panel.
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Hi,
Does that mean that the rocker becomes useless afteward ? Is there a way to recycle this button for something else ?

Sound Profile Control App Request

Does anyone know of an app for Windows Phone 7 or the Samsung Focus that will control the sound profiles like you can on Android? I want something that will give me the ability to control the ringer, Alarm, system sound, Music, and such separately. Or is there a way of doing this with standard WP7 that I just can't find. it's annoying that when I turn down the sound for the keyboard clicking too loudly, that I can't hear the ringer.
I'd also like this to have various settings that you can preconfigure for say normal, night, vibrate only, or silent other than say the alarm and ringer (for night use).
Any ideas?
codyt01 said:
Does anyone know of an app for Windows Phone 7 or the Samsung Focus that will control the sound profiles like you can on Android? I want something that will give me the ability to control the ringer, Alarm, system sound, Music, and such separately. Or is there a way of doing this with standard WP7 that I just can't find. it's annoying that when I turn down the sound for the keyboard clicking too loudly, that I can't hear the ringer.
I'd also like this to have various settings that you can preconfigure for say normal, night, vibrate only, or silent other than say the alarm and ringer (for night use).
Any ideas?
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I'm afraid this isn't possible with the SDK that third party developers have access to....
I don't have my own phone yet so I can't comment on if the option is already built in, but I do know that its not in the SDK.

How can I listen to music and stay in VIBRATE mode?

Hi,
I recently switched from a WM standard phone (snap - non touch screen) to the HD2 - big move
One thing that I am confused about is that if I put the HD2 in "VIBRATE" mode, the volume is set to 0, so when I try to play some music using my stereo headset, I need to bring the volume up to hear it.
But, as soome as I bring the volume up, the HD2 switches out of vibrate mode
With my non-touch screen phone, even when you were in "Vibrate" mode, you could listen to any multimedia app you wanted, and still any notification (SMS, New Email, voice mail, etc) would still just vibrate and not make a sound.
How can I EASILY get the HD2 to stay in VIBRATE mode and listen to music without having to modify each "notification" manully one-by-one to just "VIbrate"?
Any ideas?
i vaguely remember (currently stoned! ) that this is indeed possible and that i used to do it on my HD2...
i'm currently using android 24/7 for the past 2+ months so can't boot back to WM to confirm what i remember.
i believe i had "ringer" and "system" volumes set to show as separated from one another on the big grey volume control screen. the setting to toggle splitting the controls is somewhere on the Sense settings' tab.
so i would keep the volume down pressed all the way so that the phone would switch both volume controls to vibrate (the sequence was highest volume->lowest volume->silent *(i.e. no vibrate either)->vibrate). then i would switch to the "system" tab of the volume control and drag it back UP. so the "ringer" tab remained on vibrate and the "system" tab got the volume it needs to play music, or what have you.
i suppose this would silence the notification sounds as well because i vaguely remember another setting that makes the notification sounds follow the "ringer" volume as opposed to the "system" volume. but if the notification sounds follow the "system" volume, then you would still hear them during the music playback...but i find that prospect useful as well, so maybe it was designed that way and i don't remember properly?!?
so yeah, whatever
ASCIIker said:
i suppose this would silence the notification sounds as well because i vaguely remember another setting that makes the notification sounds follow the "ringer" volume as opposed to the "system" volume. but if the notification sounds follow the "system" volume, then you would still hear them during the music playback...but i find that prospect useful as well, so maybe it was designed that way and i don't remember properly?!?
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If you could remember that setting that would be awesome, I like how Android handles notification and system sounds. I would prefer to have the ringer and notifications together and then multimedia sounds separate, any hint where to look?
you need settings....., sound + display....
then set "single volume" to off.
your volume control should now have two tabs for ring and system volume levels.....
even after they are seperate and he has the ringer turned down, his texts and other notifications will still sound because they are systems sounds right?
trueblood said:
even after they are seperate and he has the ringer turned down, his texts and other notifications will still sound because they are systems sounds right?
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Yes notification sounds are linked to System volume, the OP, and myself for that matter, are looking to have the notifications linked to ringer volume like it is in Android so that system volume is delegated to multimedia and such. I was always under the impression that this was a limitation of Winmo but now I wonder if it's in the registry to change that
regarding my post above, i have a feeling that i am incorrectly stating that the "notification volume follows ringer volume" feature is present in WM as well.
like i said in the post, i can't remember properly and so take the post with a grain of salt. apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Haha it's all good. Yeah I was just hopeful is all, it would be nice if it was a part of the registry but I am thinking that is a core functionality of WinMo

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