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(WARNING) Mirror/Reflective Screen Covers

Hello all,
Just wanted to post up a warning about purchasing mirror/protective screen covers for your TP/Fuze/Diamond!
I purchased these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250365082878
the overall quality of them seems great, they have a protective covering on both sides for the application process (similar to "Screen Guards" brand covers).
but..... upon installation this is the result:
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As you can see, it makes the phone almost unusable due to the rainbow effect... what is odd is it doesn't have that effect if I look at the phone from an extreme angle, so if I look at it with the phone laying flat and my eyes right near the hardware keys, it doesn't look rainbowy.... bleh
Just an FYI! has anyone had similar experiences?
Thx
JFlitt

That seems to just be the way those mirror finish screen protectors are. I bought a cut to size proporta echo one for my samsung p2 mp3 player and its like a truck full of carebears exploded on my screen. My buddy also got one for his sprint touch pro, same result.

I don't have a white background screen, it's entirely black. Everything on my phone is black-themed so I don't have the distortion of colors as much. That may solve the problem. Either that, or get another screen protector.

for years now I have been using the Brando Screen protectors.
I've used them on all my pdas, media players and cell phones. The quality and clarity are unbeatable if you ask me.
I just cleaned my old SE W850 which my son now uses. the screen protector has been on the phone for 2 years now and it is still sitting fine! (no corner lift). Sure, the protector is a little scratched after 2 years of service but the phone underneath is as good as new!

lacrossev said:
That seems to just be the way those mirror finish screen protectors are. I bought a cut to size proporta echo one for my samsung p2 mp3 player and its like a truck full of carebears exploded on my screen. My buddy also got one for his sprint touch pro, same result.
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Greatest quote ever.

Hahah agreed on the carebears statement, pretty damn funny!
Anywho, I will say this much though, that seller who I bought these from on ebay has been really great as far as customer service is concerned. I emailed him letting him know about this issue and sent these pictures along. He couldn't believe that is what they looked like and was very angry at the factory for providing a product like this. He is sending me 3 clear and 3 anti-glare protectors to make up for this (which I think is very commendable). It would seem that the problem with these is related to the polarization used to cause the mirror effect and then let the light through when the light is on behind the cover.... what is odd is it clears up if I look down the phone holding it flat..... very intesting and annoying!
Just thought I would let everyone know!
I can't wait either.... I feel like I'm tripping on something every time I use my phone as it is now haha!!
Thanks
JFlitt

Not sure exactly what seems to be causing this. As I did have similar mirror screen protectors on my Kaiser and never experienced this.
Perhaps these are simply a bad batch / brand.
I am still running on the stock smooth screen protector (using the tape cleaning method) however, once that peels off I will begin my search for either a mirror, privacy or anti-glare. I haven't found one that I really liked of any so far.

Looks a little like a moiré pattern. See what happens if you put the screen protector on at a 90 degree angle (yes, it will be only partially protected, but this is just a test). If it is less notable, it appears the LCD elements on the screen are lining up with the way the screen protector is cut. Same thing will happen on a digital photo copier. The way the CCD "sees" line art can sometimes do that if the original is a "screen" print (very very small tiny dots as opposed to a solid image). You can "simulate" the effect by taking a good quality pair of sunglasses, and hold it over something like a digital wristwatch with LCD screen, and rotate the sunglasses clock-counter clockwise until the image on the watch disappears.
Not much you can do but get a different brand of screen protector.

Seems to be polarized by the way I see my mirror screen protector. Mine does it too. I have polarized sunglasses and when I turn the phone 90' it goes black (almost, but close enough) so that's why I think it might be polarized.
Also, they scratch to easy for me.

I bought one along with 3 regular screen protectors...honestly the only complaint I have is fingerprints are much more apparent. The rainbow effect is very rare for me...only at a certain angle with enough light...just my 2 cents...

jasezero said:
I bought one along with 3 regular screen protectors...honestly the only complaint I have is fingerprints are much more apparent. The rainbow effect is very rare for me...only at a certain angle with enough light...just my 2 cents...
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Yea I dunno if this is just a bad batch or what... but there are definatelly some issues, this isn't rare or at certain angles... this is all over!
Thx
JFlitt

Screen protector or no?

I was just wondering what your guys thoughts were on screen protects for this phone. I've used them on my last 2 devices, but I've read this phone is susposed to have supper tuff screen. I have a protector on now, but it really messes with the colors on the screen and I wanna take it off.
Anyone scratched the screen yet?

I will never use screen protectors again. After countless frustrations with them, like getting dust under the film or sticky feeling textures, I'm done. I love the way a glass screen feels.
I'm a pretty careful person. I never put my keys in the same pocket or drop the phone. So for me, no protection is just fine.

My moment, evo and epic all had zepp screen protectors. So what it's got a tougher screen, wouldn't you feel better you're protecting your investment? This phone wasn't cheap.
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I've gone to best buy and had them put it on. My epic, the first one was messed up so they got another one. They've been trained to put these on. They've put many on. If there's a problem or one is messed up, they'll get another one. Yeah you pay for installation, but if they don't do a good job, they'll redo it. Try that yourself...
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I have literally taken my keys and dared my friends to TRY and scratch my screen... as hard as we tried... couldn't make even the smallest scratch... took some balls to try it the first time by myself tho haha... once you realize how amazing this gorilla glass is you will feel sooo much better about it.
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And they have better tools at their disposal than thee primitive ones that come in the package.
Another alternative, take the package and the phone to a good window tinting place. They know how to get it perfect. After they stop laughing at you for bringing in a phone...
Since it's such a pita to put those things on, let the pros do it.
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I just had one put on by bestbuy today. I had previously used a zagg and installed it myself when I was a crackberry user. This time I said hell no im paying to get it done. It seems to have a slight effect on the way the capacitive buttons work(not as sensitive as before) but I had read that is a potential problem. Personally id rather have an ugly screen protector then a potentially permanent scratch on the screen...

Wait, you people put a screen protector that CAN be damaged on a screen that CAN'T be damaged? <facepalm>

Get Zagg sheild protector for the epic....their protectors are amazing

I got a clarivue on mine, it was easy to install, no watery mess, it uses static, and it is super clear and not noticeable. It doesn't affect the capacitive buttons on the bottom and the screen doesn't feel weird like those other protectors do.
Sent from my Epic 4G

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I initially bought the Sprint screen protector at the store on release day and had it on for a few days. Unfortunately, I wasn't very happy with the way the screen looked (even giving it 4 days or so to clear out).
I took it off and was amazed to have the normal screen back. It's been a few days since then and not a single inkling of a scratch on it.

I've got a clairvue and a realook screen protector in the mail right now and I just peeled off the generic protector I was using. I am gonna go with a naked screen until I get near my 30 day limit and see how it looks.

I dropped mine getting out of my car last week, it fell maybe a foot and it now has tiny scratches on the top and bottom but thankfully not on the display itself. Bought a screen protector the next day.

Here is the flow chart and a video to help you make your choice:
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I love that video, which is why I didn't get a screen protector.
Mine did not survive unscathed a drop that was a fraction of what his did.
I know it is my fault, I'm the idiot that let it get dropped. I just want to let people know the Epic 4g is not as scratch-proof as that video leaves you to believe.

I've seen a couple drop test that show the screen does scratch from a 1 foot. I just HATE the sprint protector. I've had sheilds from ZAGG before and really liked them. I guess I"ll get another for this phone.
FYI: do not get the sprint screen protector.
1. It does not protect the entire front face, only the screen itself. EVEN though the reps will tell you it covers the entire front of the phone.
2. It really screws up the colors of the screen, white seems to be a bit of green/blue/red not a real white.
3. It makes the screen harder to see in sun light.
4. It sucks.
5. ?????

If you are in the edge or unsure if you should get a protector, get one from stealthguards.com for just 2.85 shipping and they are exactly like the zagg material. I ordered one for my epic and haven't got it yet but the one I got for my iPod works great.

I ordered a phantom skinz, I have a generic one on until it gets here. Rep told me it was a bad idea to cover the whole glass, because it could mess with the front facing camera. I covered as much as I could with it and it looks stupid only being partially covered. Hoping the skin gets here tomorrow.

got my ghost armor on order will have a review and pics up of it, had zagg on my hero and loved it. seems to be reports that ga is better so imma try them. dont use the front facing cam as i know one person who has qik and i dont talk to them much

I was stupid and had my phone in the same pocket as my keys. I did this for 2 years w/ my iphone 3g and it didn't have a single scratch on the screen. 1 week with this epic and there are micro scratches everywhere. Do not believe the hype about the screen durability, get a screen protector if u're going to put them in the same pocket w/ anything that might scratch it (keys, coins, etc).

I scratched my phone's screen :(

So I bought my phone one month ago, and boom, scratch. It just happened for putting it in and taking it of my pants pockets, so I guess our screen sucks balls.
Anyway, what should I do? I mean, that thing that got scratched is a protective piece of plastic that's over the real screen, right? Should I try the toothpaste method? Should I send it to Sony for repair (is it expensive?)?

if it's just a protector, then don't worry I have the same issue, I have 2 scratches over my screen protector, just change it from the markete, its pretty cheap, no need to be worry mate.

orangzeb said:
if it's just a protector, then don't worry I have the same issue, I have 2 scratches over my screen protector, just change it from the markete, its pretty cheap, no need to be worry mate.
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I'm not sure it is the protector. Upon further reading, I think that the thing I called "plastic" is in fact the digitizer...

Dexter_prog said:
I'm not sure it is the protector. Upon further reading, I think that the thing I called "plastic" is in fact the digitizer...
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There's no preinstalled screen protector. So you have scratched plastic screen directly... however touches will still be recognized OK since actual digitizer is about 1mm under that plastic

Blagus said:
There's no preinstalled screen protector. So you have scratched plastic screen directly... however touches will still be recognized OK since actual digitizer is about 1mm under that plastic
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yeah, but the problem is that now I have a 1mm blurry square (the scratch) in the middle of my screen, which is annoying because everything displayed under it becomes blurry and darkened . Is it expensive to repair?
Goddamit, this is depressing me

you could've used a leather case, but now it will cost you ..

I guess you should have bought a gorilla glass device . My x8 once felt to the ground and I got the pieces of it, but didn´t make anything to the screen . But screens can be replaced, you just need to buy a new one, I changed the screens of two of older phones I had on past

My LCD screen itself is damaged. There is a small spot near the upper right of the screen that is slightly brighter if a pure white image is shown. It is definitely lcd damage. We're in the same boat .

SpyderX said:
My LCD screen itself is damaged. There is a small spot near the upper right of the screen that is slightly brighter if a pure white image is shown. It is definitely lcd damage. We're in the same boat .
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No, I think it's not a screen damage. My phone has got this too. I think it's a factory fault. (I see when it sould be a homogene black "colour")

Asycid said:
No, I think it's not a screen damage. My phone has got this too. I think it's a factory fault. (I see when it sould be a homogene black "colour")
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Now I feel better. It is quite slight such that usually it is quite hard to spot it unless there is a pure white background. One more thing, does your spot have a pressure distortion (the grey coloured waves that appear when you press the screen too hard) when you are pressing another part of the screen too hard?

Maybe you get lucky and get a cypress one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-S...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item1c1d4b9835
Anyway, our screen is harder to scratch compared to a normal one.. Were you wearing jeans, i'm asking this because they usually have some metal pins in the pockets?
And the reason why i don't have a single scratch on my phone is: http://www.orkio.com/db/pictures/modules/PDT/PDT060207001/201031016115830195.jpg

SpyderX said:
Now I feel better. It is quite slight such that usually it is quite hard to spot it unless there is a pure white background. One more thing, does your spot have a pressure distortion (the grey coloured waves that appear when you press the screen too hard) when you are pressing another part of the screen too hard?
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Erm, no. My screen is brigther on the right side when there should be black on the screen. There is no colour disortion when I push harder (and to be honest I never push harder, because it don't need to be pressed harder), and when the phone is on and ready, this brightness difference absolutely not noticable. Only on homogene black screen.
BUT that doesn't mean your phone has been damaged! But if it worries you, then take it back to your local store, and they'll change it with guarantee, I think. Don't worry
@Nikkopt:
I'm using this mobile wallet, and I love it! Even my MW600 headset can be held on it, cause it has got 3 pockets beside the main mobile holding pocket
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Asycid said:
@Nikkopt:
I'm using this mobile wallet, and I love it! Even my MW600 headset can be held on it, cause it has got 3 pockets beside the main mobile holding pocket
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It's pretty neat

I just pointed to the fact that any person who has a touch-screen mobile should buy a mobile-wallet as soon as possible. They're cheap, I mean much cheeper than repair a broken phone

Well, I got some of it off by using car polisher, haha. It is not completely gone, but at least it doesn't distort what's underneath it anymore. I am buying one of those screen protectors ASAP, but I'm not getting a phone wallet. That's a bit overkill for me.

Screen surface problem

My son is playing one game on my note very often. Few days ago I've spot that in the place where there is a steering in his game (so he touches only that part of the screen) my finger is not moving smooth through that area (it is like brake in the screen ) Also the smudges typical to stay on the screen when you drive the finger though it are not staying in that area. When I was cleaning the screen I've spot the dampness of the cloth I use is not covering that spot.
I always clean the screen only with a dump soft cloth and never had any problem like this before with any other device.
Did any one else had similar problem before?
Is it possible the protective layer on the screen had been removed of that area?
May it be a warranty issue or it will not cover it (the tablet is 3 months old)?
Do you have any idea how I can repair it?
Regards
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kayteck1 said:
My son is playing one game on my note very often. Few days ago I've spot that in the place where there is a steering in his game (so he touches only that part of the screen) my finger is not moving smooth through that area (it is like brake in the screen ) Also the smudges typical to stay on the screen when you drive the finger though it are not staying in that area. When I was cleaning the screen I've spot the dampness of the cloth I use is not covering that spot.
I always clean the screen only with a dump soft cloth and never had any problem like this before with any other device.
Did any one else had similar problem before?
Is it possible the protective layer on the screen had been removed of that area?
May it be a warranty issue or it will not cover it (the tablet is 3 months old)?
Do you have any idea how I can repair it?
Regards
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Is it a break down of the screen or could it be a residue from something that was on the users hands. From what you are describing it sounds like it may be a build up of oils or maybe silicon.

It would be very difficult for a finger to damage the screen unless it had sand or soil on it.
I suggest that you try some dish soap / detergent on it to cut through any deposit and repolish.
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I've tried soap, washing-up liquid and surgical spirit with no luck.
When i was trying to clean it with surgical spirit, the cloth was driving difficult through that area and squicking.
When the screen is cleaned there is no sign of any spot or anything on it. It looks perfectly clean.
I am afraid to do any more cleaning on it not to make bigger damages
I don't think any sand or dirt was on his fingers as I ask my kids to wash their hands every time before taking the tablet.
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If you can see the spot you are talking about could you post a photo of it.

Like I said, there are NO visible marks at all when the screen is cleaned. The only thing then stating that something is wrong is a little resist (like roughness) when driving a cloth over that area. Visually everything is 100%.
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But, when you start using it, you can see there is a different mark of finger smudges in that area and when I huffed on the cleaned screen, that is what I got.
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I know this does not help the issue.. But you could but a screen protector. (the cheaper plastic feel ones work best with s pen ).
Also call samsung it does sound like it would be covered by Warranty ..
Reminds me to put screen protector on my tablet today. i took it off because it was very old ..
Good Luck...
Erica Renee .. The Geeky Chic

Try pure carnuba car wax...

BarryH_GEG said:
Try pure carnuba car wax...
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is this a joke?
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erica_renee said:
I know this does not help the issue.. But you could but a screen protector. (the cheaper plastic feel ones work best with s pen ).
Also call samsung it does sound like it would be covered by Warranty ..
Reminds me to put screen protector on my tablet today. i took it off because it was very old ..
Good Luck...
Erica Renee .. The Geeky Chic
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already ordered one today... hope the spot won't be spot from beneath the protector...
anyway i will try to sort it out under warranty as it does look like screen surface issue for me.
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looks like an abrasive has done damage there, you can see the marks. no warranty will cover that.

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Nope. I wax my screens, even those with protectors, regularly. It makes S Pen and my fingers glide easier and helps keep abrasives from accumulating or scratching the display. Carnauba wax is natural and won't harm the display.

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looks like an abrasive has done damage there, you can see the marks. no warranty will cover that.
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I would have to agree with GoNz0........
Did you happen to purchase an extended warranty w/accident protection?

whats the kid been doing, eating sweets while playing?
even worst would be munching a bag of crisps and rubbing salt onto the screen.
crap, i better get a protector on mine, my 3 year old uses it :|

Fix for build quality issues.

I just received my HTC One developer edition, and like others, there are some build quality issues, most notably the screen is not lined up with the rest of the front of the phone (ie, you can feel the screen glass grabbing your finger when you swipe down to pull the notifications panel)
It was not too bad of an issue when comparing to others from YouTube, also I bought the phone from HTC, so there is no way for me to exchange it at AT&T.
So I decided to fix it.
- Heat up the screen with a heat gun on low or a hair dryer on high. Make sure you keep on moving the heat source in figure 8 and keep the heat source around 10 inches away from the screen. Do this for around 5 minutes, the phone needs to be hot, uncomfortable to hold, but still you should be able to hold it with your bare hands.
- Protect the screen and back of the phone. Clamp the top of the screen. Wait for the phone to cool. Release the clamps.
This worked wonderfully for me, the screen is now flush with the body, I can't feel it when I run my finger on the edge between the screen and the body.
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I'm going to have to try this--I didn't want to send my phone back to AT&T because that would be a hassle but at the same time I really hated how i could feel the little lip every time I pulled down the notification shade.

Thank god I don't have this issue, this is way too crazy of a fix for me O_O

Good fix thanks for posting. This is what ifixit actually does to remove the screen. Hot air melts the glue so you can take off the screen or adjust it.
A sidenote: If you heat the phone up too much the battery degrades so be careful.

Too bad there wasn't an easy fix like yours to my dev edition defect. No way to solve bleed issues apart from sending it back for a replacement.
Good for you. Self-help never hurts. Cheers!
https://picasaweb.google.com/100693731613176583412/HTCOneM7_dev
inselfyoga

This isn't a fix for all build quality issues.. one fix for the gap inbetween bezel and speaker grills is put a TPU case on it. It will squeeze it together and make the gap go away.
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well im on my second one right now you can feel the screen glass grabbing your finger when you swipe down to pull the notifications panel on both of them i don't even know if i should exchange again, but it feel like the screen is about to cut my finger, when swiping down its really anoying

I take it hose clamps are pretty strong? seems like they'd have to be to squish that glass back down. Dont know if my walmart plastic clamp kit will do it Thanks for sharing

...This is a rather extreme fix.

i just pressed mine in really hard with my hands

This is similar to how we fixed the early Nexus 7s. Asus had issues with the left hand side of the screen being proud of the bezel. The fix was to warm the periphery of the screen to re-soften the adhesive and then place heavy books on the screen and leave for a few hours... worked a treat.
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I think I will try this before I bother with AT&T. I just hate having to deal with them for anything at all.

Thanks for the how to. Worked perfectly!

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i just pressed mine in really hard with my hands
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lol just asking for it to crack

This improved things on my "One" as well.
now if I could just get something to close the minor gaps between the speaker grills and the plastic..
I'm thinking about using a bit of krazy glue and working it into the opening and putting my clamps back on until it dries.
This phone will be close to perfect, even if I have to help it along myself

Andrmgic said:
This improved things on my "One" as well.
now if I could just get something to close the minor gaps between the speaker grills and the plastic..
I'm thinking about using a bit of krazy glue and working it into the opening and putting my clamps back on until it dries.
This phone will be close to perfect, even if I have to help it along myself
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Let me know if this works for you. I was thinking the same thing.
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billyapd21 said:
Let me know if this works for you. I was thinking the same thing.
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WOW...Let me know how that works also. I'm trying to not let the small gap bother me, but i'm worried over time that dirt or moisture will get in there and mess some things up. The issue comes from the speakers not being part of the 1 solid piece of aluminum but are snapped on later. This is why in the drop tests the speakers came off on some of them.

going to grab some toothpicks + krazy glue on the way home and see what can be done about the gaps.
Thanks to the procedure in the OP, my glass is now flush with the speaker grill on the top of the device. Much more pleasant to pull down the notification shade now.
Trying to do the same with the lower speaker grill, but it's not as big a deal as the top one.

Nice. Will have to pick up some clamps from Home Depot...I do definitely feel the overhang when pulling the noti shade. You know over extended use, the grime from our fingers will deposit there. ugh
Hope I dont shatter the screen.. lol.

The top and bottom speaker grills are glued on as well so they might not have let them set long enough causing that seperation. As for the light bleed sheesh , im sure theyre rushing to meet demand, but what good does it do if they deliver an inferior product
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