This phone is too fragile. I mean after 3 or 4 drops on concrete sidewalks, a number of dents and dings in the case, it should be able to withstand a 5 foot drop onto asphalt right?
cracked a semi-circle chunk on the edge of the screen about a centimeter in diameter.
no noticeable effect to touch sensitivity - i guess this probably voids the warranty and might as well root it now lol.
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This phone is too fragile. I mean after 3 or 4 drops on concrete sidewalks, a number of dents and dings in the case, it should be able to withstand a 5 foot drop onto asphalt right?
cracked a semi-circle chunk on the edge of the screen about a centimeter in diameter.
no noticeable effect to touch sensitivity - i guess this probably voids the warranty and might as well root it now lol.
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Might aswell just root it, you have nothing to lose now
May I suggest something more appropriate for you?
check this....
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Might aswell just root it, you have nothing to lose now
May I suggest something more appropriate for you?
check this....
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jkhouw1 said:
This phone is too fragile. I mean after 3 or 4 drops on concrete sidewalks, a number of dents and dings in the case, it should be able to withstand a 5 foot drop onto asphalt right?
cracked a semi-circle chunk on the edge of the screen about a centimeter in diameter.
no noticeable effect to touch sensitivity - i guess this probably voids the warranty and might as well root it now lol.
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several 5 foot drops on asphault? [joke] Thats fitting because it sounds simular to you're an ass and its your fault, jk. [/joke]
Seriously though, the n1 should not be about to handle that kind of drop. Yes the outside is metal, but its very thin and therefore a shock wave will pass right through it. If it is incased in some type of rubbery material which would absorb the shock it would of been fine, but it doesnt have that.
Thats why I bought a thin rubbery silicon case. When it falls the case absords the whole impact shock with little energy being transfered to the actual n1. Hard cases add more thickness to the phone and therefore more material can help absorb the shock, but something that deforms a little is the only real way to protect something from a hard fall. Even with a hard case, a 10+ drop on concrete and you can most likely say good bye to your n1. With a silicon case there is a good chance it will be perfectly fine.
I can get into really techinal terms, but I'm trying not to do that because I understand not everyone is a material science engineer.
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several 5 foot drops on asphault? [joke] Thats fitting because it sounds simular to you're an ass and its your fault, jk. [/joke]
Seriously though, the n1 should not be about to handle that kind of drop. Yes the outside is metal, but its very thin and therefore a shock wave will pass right through it. If it is incased in some type of rubbery material which would absorb the shock it would of been fine, but it doesnt have that.
Thats why I bought a thin rubbery silicon case. When it falls the case absords the whole impact shock with little energy being transfered to the actual n1. Hard cases add more thickness to the phone and therefore more material can help absorb the shock, but something that deforms a little is the only real way to protect something from a hard fall. Even with a hard case, a 10+ drop on concrete and you can most likely say good bye to your n1. With a silicon case there is a good chance it will be perfectly fine.
I can get into really techinal terms, but I'm trying not to do that because I understand not everyone is a material science engineer.
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Oh my gawd, thanks for the common sense lessons!!!
Jk'ing.. kinda, but people (should know) know most of what you said already. Well, at least I did.
A covered phone is always better than a naked one :/
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Oh my gawd, thanks for the common sense lessons!!!
Jk'ing.. kinda, but people (should know) know most of what you said already. Well, at least I did.
A covered phone is always better than a naked one :/
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Judging by the OP, I felt what i said was approate even if it should be common knowledge.
Seriously? don't get a phone this expensive if you still drop your phone.i haven't dropped a phone since I had a razor. As I said, don't buy a $600 that has a glass screen and drop it. Take anything made of glass and drop it 5 feet and it will shatter .
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shonanthebarbarianTP2 said:
Seriously? don't get a phone this expensive if you still drop your phone.i haven't dropped a phone since I had a razor. As I said, don't buy a $600 that has a glass screen and drop it. Take anything made of glass and drop it 5 feet and it will shatter .
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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Very very true.. cellphones are simply prone to be dropped.
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This phone is too fragile. I mean after 3 or 4 drops on concrete sidewalks, a number of dents and dings in the case, it should be able to withstand a 5 foot drop onto asphalt right?
cracked a semi-circle chunk on the edge of the screen about a centimeter in diameter.
no noticeable effect to touch sensitivity - i guess this probably voids the warranty and might as well root it now lol.
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3 or 4 drops on concrete??? note to jkhouw...hide your nexus one when hitting the bottle!
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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See the drop test videos - it is designed to stand some drops.
To expect a glass screen to successfully withstand multiple 5+ ft drops onto a very hard surface (concrete) is a bit extreme. Glass is still glass and will break if there's enough of an impulse imparted on it.
From the testing videos they demoed they appear to have tested common drops, ~3 ft or more from the appearance, and it looks fairly robust at that point.
I don't think it's a common scenario to take it out of your pocket and have it fall 5 ft unless we have a high percentage of giants here at XDA who have big, clumsy hands.
While it is unreasonable to expect someone to never drop their phone, from what Google has shown, the testing for structural integrity appears to have been done for "common" falls (slips coming out of pocket, knocked off of table/counter, etc.) based on the fall height. Falls of 5+ feet are likely pretty uncommon for most users and I think you'd be hard pressed to come up with a slim solution (housing material/thickness) for a glass screen that would consistently withstand falls from that height. Unless.....
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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they are designed to be dropped some, but you also have some things you can't design for.
For example we were just talking about a 5 ft drop on asphault. If I design it to be dropped from there, what angle contact angle am i talking about? Obviously a fall straight on its back will be different than a corner hit. Does manufactoring it to survive both drop types interfer with eachother? How much more does it cost? How much size will it add? Maybe I could use better materials, but then that also comes with added cost.
Also, it doesnt matter how many safety meetings you have, people will find a way to mess up there n1's in some new way.
So alot of this comes down to cost, and there becomes a point where you say the end user should have some responsibility.
so wait...you guys are telling me that dropping glass on a hard surface like concrete from 5 or more feet off the ground isn't a good idea? who are the ad wizards that came up with this one?!
The phone is sturdy indeed! I have dropped it several times by now (more than I have dropped any other phone, anyway) and it has always withstood the falls like a champ. Last week I dropped it on asphalt from 5 / 6 feet: time slowed down as I watched it fall and bounce, both the battery cover and the battery itself jumping out while the phone finally slid face down on the concrete for 2 or three feet. I don't know how long I stood there staring at it before picking it up, all while thinking what a good phone it had been.
You know what? The screen was perfectly fine, and only the soft part at the bottom had a very obvious dent where it had first hit the floor. The phone might not be invulnerable, but it's definitely tougher than it looks.
Not everything's good though. From my experience this phone is very prone to falling. It's so thin and wide that gripping it firmly is difficult, and can you guys explain why it doesn't have a hole or something to fix a lace on it or something?
Seriously, I feel that's the one thing the N1 is sorely lacking.
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The phone is sturdy indeed! I have dropped it several times by now (more than I have dropped any other phone, anyway) and it has always withstood the falls like a champ. Last week I dropped it on asphalt from 5 / 6 feet: time slowed down as I watched it fall and bounce, both the battery cover and the battery itself jumping out while the phone finally slid face down on the concrete for 2 or three feet. I don't know how long I stood there staring at it before picking it up, all while thinking what a good phone it had been.
You know what? The screen was perfectly fine, and only the soft part at the bottom had a very obvious dent where it had first hit the floor. The phone might not be invulnerable, but it's definitely tougher than it looks.
Not everything's good though. From my experience this phone is very prone to falling. It's so thin and wide that gripping it firmly is difficult, and can you guys explain why it doesn't have a hole or something to fix a lace on it or something?
Seriously, I feel that's the one thing the N1 is sorely lacking.
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the mock n2 pictures have one, but I for one think its FUGLY. Seriously, just get a thin silicon rubbary case and the grip issue is gone.
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the mock n2 pictures have one, but I for one think its FUGLY. Seriously, just get a thin silicon rubbary case and the grip issue is gone.
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True. I don't really like cases though, someone once said they're like making Angelina Jolie wear a fat suit and I agree. Might buy one anyway in order to stop dropping the goddamn phone.
By the way, do you guys know if it's possible to replace the soft bottom part? It hurts to look at it so dented and damaged.
That is rediculous.i have yet to drop my N1, G1, MT3g, blackberry 9700,or my HD2.It's about making a conscious thought of "I'm taking this $600 phone out if my pocket. I should be careful".
Seriously? don't get a phone this expensive if you still drop your phone.i haven't dropped a phone since I had a razor. As I said, don't buy a $600 th
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I disagree with your sentiments. Cellphones are by nature prone to droppage, in and out of hands and pockets many times a day. It is unreasonable to expect the average user not to end up dropping it at some point. I say to phone manufacturers don't design and sell a $600 phone with a glass screen if you can't engineer it to withstand an occasional fall, since many of us mere mortals are likely to eventually drop it.
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shonanthebarbarianTP2 said:
That is rediculous.i have yet to drop my N1, G1, MT3g, blackberry 9700,or my HD2.It's about making a conscious thought of "I'm taking this $600 phone out if my pocket. I should be careful".
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I haven't dropped my N1 yet either, but I know it will happen. You're acting as if you have some inhuman ability of never dropping things that are expensive - I'm going to assume you rarely take your phone out of your pocket when outside, and when you do you most likely pay too much attention to it as if its a baby. I can imagine you over gripping a phone in order to prevent a dent or 2, watching it carefully as if its a life or death situation..
I'm probably exaggerating, but I really don't see how you do it. You must be a very carefull individual.
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Very very true.. cellphones are simply prone to be dropped.
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Yes, there are two kinds of nexus one (or any other model) owners. Those who have dropped their phones and those who are going to drop their phones.
krabman said:
Yes, there are two kinds of nexus one (or any other model) owners. Those who have dropped their phones and those who are going to drop their phones.
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In Soviet Russia, the Nexus One drops you!
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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
Another reason why I wont be having kids...
Hi, I rang Vodafone today and I think they have a few replacement unitsleft, as they said they'd bee shipping me out one in the next few days... see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611939
I hope its actually a HD2 they are shipping me and not another phone, fingers crossed!!
The direct replacement number they gave me was 08448540430 but I'm not sure if thats the right one for insurance but you can try it. Let me know how you get on
Sounds promising, thanks! If I get another i'll be wrapping it in cotton wool...
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Sounds promising, thanks! If I get another i'll be wrapping it in cotton wool...
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If I could I'd cover it in adamantium...
This is quite worrying. I mean sure dropping a phone would not be considered "normal use" but surely it should have been taken into account when designing the unit that phones do get dropped?
My Touch Pro has hit the deck on more than one occassion and it's unscathed!! I'm not the careless type either, I look after my tech but these things happen. It's worrying that a 2ft drop onto laminate could cause the screen to completely shatter.
Strange, dropped mine 6 feet onto a tile floor yesterday, i was like nooooooooooooo!, picked it up, still perfect, must have been lucky.
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This is quite worrying. I mean sure dropping a phone would not be considered "normal use" but surely it should have been taken into account when designing the unit that phones do get dropped?
My Touch Pro has hit the deck on more than one occassion and it's unscathed!! I'm not the careless type either, I look after my tech but these things happen. It's worrying that a 2ft drop onto laminate could cause the screen to completely shatter.
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Your Touch Pro also happens to have a plastic screen. Sounds stupid comparing it to a thin glass screen, doesn't it? You make it sounds like it's the coming of the apocalypse because the HD2 is the first of its kind to have screen cracked when dropped. Take a look at iphones, droids, hero, etc...
People here freaked out because it's probably the first capacitive screen they've owned and continue using it like it's plastic like past HTC phones. Be extra careful. Period.
You were extremely fortunate, either that or I was extremely unfortunate. Ive been reading about the HD2 apparently theres alot of internal stress so although the screen is pretty much scratch proof its not so good on when struck. Very annoying as Ive been very protective of this phone
its actually pretty tough
in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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Being intoxicated whilst using this phone is what I fear the most...
lude219 said:
Your Touch Pro also happens to have a plastic screen. Sounds stupid comparing it to a thin glass screen, doesn't it? You make it sounds like it's the coming of the apocalypse because the HD2 is the first of its kind to have screen cracked when dropped. Take a look at iphones, droids, hero, etc...
People here freaked out because it's probably the first capacitive screen they've owned and continue using it like it's plastic like past HTC phones. Be extra careful. Period.
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I'm not saying your wrong, but things like "drops" should be taken into account at the design stage of a device such as a phone.
Your car keys are not meant to be dropped, but they'd survive wouldnt they? A mobile phone, by it's very nature, is prone to a drop or two over it's lifetime...
Your reply is very condescending and poorly thought out.
Seems like the phone is a bit like an egg. Squeeze an egg from the top and it won't break. Squeeze from the middle however...! So some drop the phone and it shocks the "middle" while others drop it and it shocks the "top". Some are lucky, some are not. Hey ho, them's the breaks! (No pun intended)
HTC HD2 very fragil
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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
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I recall at list 7 users in this forum having broken screen and so on, so it seems to be taken in consideration >> a hard protector box be highly recommended.
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in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
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Seriously. I let it drop like every god damned day from the 24th to the 1rst, and it's still pristine. no scratches. I even let it drop from my height (6 feet 2) while drunk and playing with a girl who tried to snap it out of my hands, my heart skipped a beat, but when I took it up, again, no scratches. I was like, God exists!
But neverthless, I ordered three different cases. I don't want to run out of luck.
Dropped mine from 1,5 meter on a stone floor, nothing happend....
Thank god!
I've dropped my HD2 more than 6 times already (usually from holding height, so about 4 feet) sometimes with the leather case sometimes without. It is still in perfect condition. Come to think about it, it think it always landed on the ends so that may prove the egg theory. I do not have it insured so I'm not gonna go prove that theory just yet
It really must depend the way it lands, but trust me 2 foot (bedside cabinet height) was enough to write off my new love lol. Or maybe someone didnt build mine and the other poor bast*rds phones right... maybe forgot to do up a few screws haha, but anyway all I'll say is be damned careful and take out that insurance it really is worth it.
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It really must depend the way it lands, but trust me 2 foot (bedside cabinet height) was enough to write off my new love lol. Or maybe someone didnt build mine and the other poor bast*rds phones right... maybe forgot to do up a few screws haha, but anyway all I'll say is be damned careful and take out that insurance it really is worth it.
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Friday afternoon unit maybe!
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I'm not saying your wrong, but things like "drops" should be taken into account at the design stage of a device such as a phone.
Your car keys are not meant to be dropped, but they'd survive wouldnt they? A mobile phone, by it's very nature, is prone to a drop or two over it's lifetime...
Your reply is very condescending and poorly thought out.
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Condescending? Poorly thought out? Like how you're comparing dropping your brick of a phone with plastic screen to a thin one with GLASS screen? LOL. I'm not even going to vilify that judging by your lack of common sense and logic.
Of course it's taken into account during the construction of the phone. Some people enjoy the finer things in life, and that means sacrificing some structural integrity for form factor. I'm sure being as naive as you are, you probably didn't think about that. You see, Syphon, the HD2 is like a Ferrari F430 comparing to your Civic of a Touch Pro. It has carbon fiber exterior mated with 490 ponies strapped to the back, and like any other cars out there, it has been crash-tested. It's expensive because of lightweight material, because of exquisite engine design, and because of engineering. All this to ensure that the driver gets the most thrill and satisfaction out of driving it. These cars are well maintained and pampered due to the common sense that these owners have and to be able to understand that these toys are expensive and you'd take the utmost precaution to enjoy them. Now the majority of the people who own these cars are smart, successful people who take pride in taking care of their valuables...the kind of stuff that you lack.
Your Civic, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen...and are the stuff that junkyards are made of. They're cheap, easily to get thrown around and can be easily fixed. The fact of the matter is, your civic is nothing more but a rolling scrap metal that attracts door dings, bird poo, and a variety of things that happen to a car with as much of a presence as a piece of rock. In case you're still clueless, your touch pro should never be compared to an HD2. It's a giant slab of plastic that doubles as a door stop.
Now, I was going to stop but you made another grand of a post. In case you haven't noticed, most car key FOBs are PLASTIC. Yep. Quite a shocker huh? You know what else is a shocker? It doesn't have a screen. All it is, is a small PCB board with a round battery attached to it. Though I wouldnt expect you to understand that based on your inane inability to understand what plastic is and what glass is. I suggest having a running start and smashing your head through your car window so you'll know what the difference is.
....I should aso tell you to put on a helmet to protect that smart brain of yours.
This thread is for all the people who cry about the plastic on the new Nexus S phone.
First of all, my sister has a Galaxy S phone i9000 to be precise, and it's been a pain to watch her drop the phone again and again... slippery fingers I guess.. lol The phone has a few scratches but that's all.
I don't even wanna know what would happen to my N1 if I did that to it. Every picture I saw of the N1 dropped was either a broken screen or the housing was damaged to a point it had to be replaced. Because of ONE drop!! I'm thankfull I've never dropped it since I have it on launch day.
So please tell me what's a better solution the Samsung plastic that actualy protects your phone or an aluminium case that will get all banged up?
I vote for the plastic. It sucks because it's glossy, if google fixes this and gives us a matt + some gloss accents would really look cool.
All the drops of my Nexus, and no signs yet. Hope that it stays this way.
Useless thread, if you ask me. Zero basis for any actual comparison.
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All the drops of my Nexus, and no signs yet. Hope that it stays this way.
Useless thread, if you ask me. Zero basis for any actual comparison.
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I have both... Give me (enough) money and I will do a drop test.
I dropped mine (from chest height, onto tarmac) on it's top left corner. Just has a small stratch there.
I've dropped my Nexus from chest height onto a stone floor, one 2-3 occasions now. Clearly I'm lucky, but there's no sign of external damage.
My N1 fell when I was hanging my mothers curtain, about 2 meters high....not a scratch. Dropped it more than once and that baby just refuses to die. BEST PHONE EVER.
This could have easily been discussed in the many other threads about plastic Galaxy's.
The only thing that should be dropped is this thread.
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This could have easily been discussed in the many other threads about plastic Galaxy's.
The only thing that should be dropped is this thread.
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So why post in it? Sorry that would make too much sense to not post in a thread you dont approve of.
OP clearly you haven't seen this video.
Dropped mine plenty of times. Not a scratch.
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I was walking with too many things in my hand and the N1 decided to slip out mid stride and bounce across the pavement...2 small scratches top left corner...
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the point is, the aluminum case has much less "give" then plastic... so our screens wont shatter as easy
The Nexus S is going to be great... We shouldn't get discourage by some shiny plastic... a phone case can easy fix that.
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The Nexus S is going to be great... We shouldn't get discourage by some shiny plastic... a phone case can easy fix that.
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most of us dont use phone cases is the point... it adds bulk to what most of us consider a "perfect sized" phone...
Fail thread , is FAIL
Galaxy S design & materials are awesome, That "plastic" you mean , make this device better than others for weight and elegance
I've dropped my n1 many times...running, getting out of car, drunkenness...still looks brand spanking new
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Yea I've dropped mine several times and I only have 1 tiny scratch on the back battery cover. The rest of the phone looks brand new. I'm using it completely naked after watching the screen torture tests.
I love it. The matte finish really helps protect the phone. We had several Samsung Blackjacks with the same matte finish and when we sold them YEARS later they still looked brand new out of the box.
looks like all the people posted here were lucky in their drop "tests"
but we have people posing on forums:
- that they just sat down with N1 in pocket and it cracked the screen.
- first drop totaly warped the body
- screen cracks from first drops etc.
Again I say I hope I don't drop it once, even though I have the Otterbox commuter series case that feels quite strong.
But I still belive that even though aluminium bodies do have more strenght, they have a higher chance to break something inside the phone due to full shock the phone recieves from the drop, unlike plastic that bends and crumbles on hit and absorbs much of the force from falling.
Aluminium seem it's harder to replace, specialy the unibody designs that HTC does. It's harder to make, harder to service, etc... by that probably the service costs go up to.
Plastic bodies and a snap to take a apart, make and replace.
what do you all think about this? Am I wrong?
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The Nexus S is going to be great... We shouldn't get discourage by some shiny plastic... a phone case can easy fix that.
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That's what Jobs said...
Drop Drop Drop
drop it, throw it, let it fly off your car, its all here
Worst testing procedure!!!!
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I disagree, I think the testing was good. You people may have to buy good cases!
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must... not... drop... my... S3......
I have the S3 and i can honestly say i am very disappointed.. I know glass breaks so get off my back.. But my Lg Optimus 3D fell from my ear and landed on concrete floor screen side down not a scratch on the screen. And it is not even Gorilla glass..
Even my brothers S2 fell a few times on our marble floor kitchen from the top of the fridge that is as tall as me.. And it's glass lived but the edge was a bit messed up.. But that was easy to fix another shell and it was fixed..
I do have a case and screen protector but this video has disappointed me in many ways...
It was good testing, I wanted to know if they still turned on afterwards and what those effects would have been. However they could do the same three tests later in the day and Apple could take the beating, it all depends on how your phone drops/lands. I don't put too much weight into these tests, cause if you drop a phone from 5ft and up on concrete its going to take damage whether it be external or internal.
It's terrible testing. The degree of damage all depends on how the phone hits the floor, rather than from what height it falls. This is shown nicely by the S3 which was fine after the kids chucked it up, but was smashed when in slid off the car.
To get meaningful results you would have to do many repeats, grade the damage and average it. Of course, no one has enough money to do countless repeats, which is why these tests are always bull.
Ignore this video...
Remember that iphone is the most fragile device.
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It's terrible testing. The degree of damage all depends on how the phone hits the floor, rather than from what height it falls. This is shown nicely by the S3 which was fine after the kids chucked it up, but was smashed when in slid off the car.
To get meaningful results you would have to do many repeats, grade the damage and average it. Of course, no one has enough money to do countless repeats, which is why these tests are always bull.
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Its not even a test. Its just square trade's marketing campaign.
You guys do realise this is from the same people who did the GS2 vs iP4 drop test video?
It's probably not fair to compare 2 products when the angle at which it falls can't be controlled. However, does anyone else get a sense that these new devices are more fragile than their previous iterations? It was like impossible to destroy my Vibrant (couldn't even brick it). I wonder if the increased size/weight is responsible.
Everything in this test is fair. The same test was with sgs 2 and I phone lost in every way. Just agree that sgs 3 is not that durable. And gorilla glass sucks.
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The test procedure SUCKS *** how can it be a good test? when they are just throwing the phone randomely. If you are making a drop test the 2 phones should drop in the same way/angle/height and so on, to find out exactly how the 2 phones do in damage at the same place.
I think this is a good test. They are basically showing how the phone would be drop dropped NATURALLY! Or close to it as possible. Now they could have done a more complete test, dropping it on the sides, back, and screen, and so on. But that would require for them to get a whole bunch of the phones, and that is costly. So that in mind. I appreciate anyone that does these kind of tests for us to see.
Oh yeah...I will be putting a case on mine
i think its fair to say, that the s3 is not as strong as the s2 is, the few tests/videos that have been posted imo confirm this
it could be as the glass is getting bigger, it also gets weaker, makes sense to me
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Everything in this test is fair. The same test was with sgs 2 and I phone lost in every way. Just agree that sgs 3 is not that durable. And gorilla glass sucks.
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What am I reading? This is a terrible test if what your going for is a scientific comparison between two devices. There are way too many variables! And just because they did the test before doesnt mean its valid. You could conduct those tests with two S3's and the results would be different from each other.
It's almost impossible to do this test in any type of economic fashion, you would have to make dummy S3's and iphone's with similar weight balance in the phone and load balance on the glass.
Most likely, thousands of tests have been done, both by samsung and apple, on both just the glass piece and dummy phones, in order to make sure that if your phone falls there will be a decent rate of recovery.
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I think this is a good test. They are basically showing how the phone would be drop dropped NATURALLY! Or close to it as possible. Now they could have done a more complete test, dropping it on the sides, back, and screen, and so on. But that would require for them to get a whole bunch of the phones, and that is costly. So that in mind. I appreciate anyone that does these kind of tests for us to see.
Oh yeah...I will be putting a case on mine
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I agree when you drop your phone you cant predict how its going to land. Except it fan boys the phone build is asking for trouble...what was that about inspired about nature designed for humans....lol.
I didn't see comments about the unscientific nature of these tests when the S2 thrashed the iPhone
Still getting this but with the knowledge is more fragile.
I'm very disappointed in Gorilla Glass. I have an Atrix (Gorilla Glass 1) and the screen cracked from a minor fall from 2 feet. Gorilla Glass 2 (with the SGS3 anyway) seems to be not much of an improvement.
Send me broken ones. Thanks for the test.
The guys at gizmoSlip have performed the quintessential drop test.
Not much problems in case of a back drop.
Screen shattered on the front drop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yORiMT8DZoM
I guess it would be a good idea to buy a protective case after all!!
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Are people still surprised that dropping a pane of glass causes it to break, or do you think that Samsung is using magical glass that is not prone to breakage? Never really understood the utility of a drop test.
If the device is metal, it'll either dent or bend. If the device is plastic it will either survive unscathed or crack. If the impact is not directly on the glass, glass may or may not break depending on the force, angle, etc. If the impact is directly to the glass, it will break. There, I just described the drop test outcomes for every phone or tablet ever made.
It also depends on the design of the device itself. note II survived the drop test. So not all results are the same
Note II is also smaller and lighter, with less surface area. Still, it's a pretty safe bet that if you drop the device glass down onto a hard surface, it'll break. If it doesn't, you just got extremely lucky, but it's not because the Note 8 has stronger/weaker glass than ipad mini, note II, etc.
I agree, complete waste if money.
Its funny. Alot of Samsung mobile devices get marked down in reviews for their choice of materials used in their casings. This test shows that it is durable at least.
I dont think I know any iPhone users who havent cracked their screen at one point or another from even the smallest of drops and ones where the screen didnt even land face down. So much so that my younger brother seems to repair one from someone he knows every few months as a hobby (he is an engineering student at university and likes to tinker with things). I'm not particuarly anti Apple, but that always seems to be the bench mark which everything is judged
Interesting. I would not do that with my Note 8
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Sun_Bean said:
Interesting. I would not do that with my Note 8
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any recommend case ?
reliable and good case
melnikor said:
any recommend case ?
reliable and good case
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I'm using this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4BEA82/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's an excellent case for only $7. All corners are protected except for the one where the pen sits
I unfortunatly did my own drop test! I had it in my outside suit pocket, and my bag pushed it out and fell from about 3.5 ft face down onto a NYC sidewalk. Fortunatly all that happened is the raised fray border got scratched/dented! Not cracks or scratches to screen! Plastic held up very well, almost had a heart atrack.
That one had a loose nack by sd slot, but found out after drop the whole back can be popped off. Hopefully someone will make some cool eubber/aluminim backs!
Since I had a loose back.
/usb port and backlight bleed, I returned for a fresh one! I want that stand pouch but cant find it online! Anyone seen it? I think this may be the same.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-stand-pouch-for-samsung-galaxy-note-8-0-grey-248537/
Anyway...the plastic and note are very durable!
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Its funny. Alot of Samsung mobile devices get marked down in reviews for their choice of materials used in their casings. This test shows that it is durable at least.
I dont think I know any iPhone users who havent cracked their screen at one point or another from even the smallest of drops and ones where the screen didnt even land face down. So much so that my younger brother seems to repair one from someone he knows every few months as a hobby (he is an engineering student at university and likes to tinker with things). I'm not particuarly anti Apple, but that always seems to be the bench mark which everything is judged
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It seems all I ever see are cracked iphones now that I think about it
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The front of every standard smartphone in the world is made out of glass. Glass has been known for being fragile for thousands of years. Anyone who claims that phone X is tougher than phone Y and tries to use that as an argument for or against a particular device is an idiot. I would say the same about people who buy devices just so they can make videos dropping them.
So Im still carrying my second one sans case..
Dropped TWO times yesterday, both about 4 ft off ground. Both times it lands face down, perfectly landing on the lip on the bezel(makes a real hefty noise). Barely a dent(tile and hard floor). I really think the glass is a hybrid with plastic, i didnt even get worried( this is 4 drop already)
Plastic=DURABLE
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... i didnt even get worried( this is 4 drop already) ...
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Wow!!! You must have nerves of steel! That kind of thing would freak me out!
But good to know your Note 8 has been surviving just fine.
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The front of every standard smartphone in the world is made out of glass. Glass has been known for being fragile for thousands of years. Anyone who claims that phone X is tougher than phone Y and tries to use that as an argument for or against a particular device is an idiot. I would say the same about people who buy devices just so they can make videos dropping them.
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I agree that if you drop any phone on its front then your likely to damage the screen as it is fragile. My arguement is that some phones are more fragile than others if you drop them on the side (iphone) as the way that the case is designed (although sturdy to hold) transfers alot of the force onto the screen rather than has any "give" to absorb some of the impact.
Who's paying for these worthless tests buying new devices and breaking them. Please send me the money instead we already know how to break phone screens
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It also depends on the design of the device itself. note II survived the drop test. So not all results are the same
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o92mDzBTM14
Don't think so.
hurts my heart to see this
Just killed one, dropped right on corner to tile. LCD display went black with white bars.
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Just killed one, dropped right on corner to tile. LCD display went black with white bars.
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That's awful! Very sorry for you. It can be so gut wrenching to lose a great (and expensive!) device in an instant like that.
So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
I come back and pick it up and I see a crack. I think its a hair or something. But it was a crack!!! It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
I have no words. You may see it here: http://imgur.com/a/7xi4C
Luckily the crack in invisible when screen is on but omg wtf. Gorilla Glass my ass. I am selling it off on eBay or whatever when they replace it. Which I hope they will. For free. I am so not paying. I dont even care if I sell at a loss.
Literally fed up with this phone.
Wow, that's sux
How in the world the drop tests are fairly good from waist and head level high, but unbelievable bad at real life accident.
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It's glas....it cracks.!?! " I am not paying"..."I am fed up"...better don't drop it lol)
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Pretty unfortunate seeing as the screen has been tested over and over again in videos of dropping it. That's what insurance is for, though. I imagine it won't be cheap to repair!
A shame that it cracked from such a low drop, but this much isn't Samsung's fault:
So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
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There are safer places to put an expensive electronic device while rearranging furniture.
I don't think it's about whose fault this is, accident happens, sometimes people aren't careful enough, sometimes **** just happened.
On the drop tests, it's rated pretty good, which should reflect on real life in theory. But again, another factor also matters, angle of drops, whether the screen itself has a drop before or not, or maybe a dud, we don't know.
It's just under normal circumstances, it shouldn't crack at 6 inched drop, period, especially for gorilla glass 4, that supposedly to be as strong as superman, except the only weakness is to its kryptonite, its own clear view case from Samsung... Cough cough
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So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
I come back and pick it up and I see a crack. I think its a hair or something. But it was a crack!!! It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
I have no words. You may see it here: http://imgur.com/a/7xi4C
Luckily the crack in invisible when screen is on but omg wtf. Gorilla Glass my ass. I am selling it off on eBay or whatever when they replace it. Which I hope they will. For free. I am so not paying. I dont even care if I sell at a loss.
Literally fed up with this phone.
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Your phone fell on a tile floor and you're expecting to get it replaced for free? good luck with that
Samsung never claimed it cracked or break resistant!
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It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
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First of all, if you're referring to the Spigen Ultra Hybrid case, it frankly probably helped it break. There's too much play in the case, so the device itself already moves around and some drops would result in somewhat of a secondary impact. That's why I can't wait to get rid of mine. The Neo Hybrid/CC is a better bet if you don't mind the design.
Secondly, there's no such thing as a "mini drop with no impact" when you're talking about a device weighing nearly half a pound (with case) encased in glass hitting one of the hardest surfaces (marble) it could possibly fall on. Not to mention I doubt it was only 6 inches (which you stated was 7 inches initially) from the ground; unless your mattress was on the floor, and it wasn't at all lifted when you were moving it.
Finally, glass hitting from a side or corner is never minor. The only drops that qualify as "minor" are flat drops onto soft surfaces. Other than that, you should be expecting a break unless you have a proper case (meaning one that -entirely- encases the device). Will it always break? Of course not. But you should expect that it will nonetheless.
There's nothing unusual that occurred here. This accident is entirely your fault. Gorilla GLASS is still glass, and glass tends to break when it hits something. Especially other hard surfaces.
It's pretty humorous how unrealistic people's expectations of glass has become just because somebody put the word "gorilla" in front of it. If Corning starts selling Gorilla Paper, I'm betting somebody would probably cover themself in it and expect to be bulletproof.
Corning I expect 5% of the profits if you use that for an idea.
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So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
I come back and pick it up and I see a crack. I think its a hair or something. But it was a crack!!! It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
I have no words. You may see it here: http://imgur.com/a/7xi4C
Luckily the crack in invisible when screen is on but omg wtf. Gorilla Glass my ass. I am selling it off on eBay or whatever when they replace it. Which I hope they will. For free. I am so not paying. I dont even care if I sell at a loss.
Literally fed up with this phone.
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You need to learn how physics works. You dropped your phone. It's your fault. Samsung should not, and will not, replace this phone for free. You ****ed up. You pay for it. It could have happened with any phone.
sorry to hear that man. maybe you just got unlucky because i dropped mines from about 6 feet high onto concrete without a case... and literally didnt have a scratch on it. overall ive had a great experience with this phone (even though i still liked my s5 better...)
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So we were moving my bed and the mattress was put on side. The mattress is roughly 7 inches high and the phone was a bit on its side, so it slipped and fell on side. I even saw it fall, the curved glass hit the floor first. (Theyre marble tiles) I kept it there, thinking oh its a minor fall, Ill take it when I am back.
I come back and pick it up and I see a crack. I think its a hair or something. But it was a crack!!! It cracked over a 6 inch mini drop with no impact whatsoever. It was in a Spigen Air Cushion case as well.
I have no words. You may see it here: http://imgur.com/a/7xi4C
Luckily the crack in invisible when screen is on but omg wtf. Gorilla Glass my ass. I am selling it off on eBay or whatever when they replace it. Which I hope they will. For free. I am so not paying. I dont even care if I sell at a loss.
Literally fed up with this phone.
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I predict a ton of people with this complaint. I have the Edge, the large curved screen seems particularly vulnerable. I fear the day I drop mine.
CafeKampuchia said:
A shame that it cracked from such a low drop, but this much isn't Samsung's fault:
There are safer places to put an expensive electronic device while rearranging furniture.
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I agree, partially my fault.
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Your phone fell on a tile floor and you're expecting to get it replaced for free? good luck with that
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Alright, chill. Most of you going all defensive on Samsungs side, wait for it to happen to you. Sure I placed it somewhere I shouldnt have but it was NOT that high. It should be able to deal with that small a drop, period.
i cracked mine week 2 of owning and been running naked for many years with my other phones and never cracked a screen. just thought i would let you know your not alone and i got an insurance replacement.
it was my fault and only angry at myself but i will say that i have dropped many other phones with no issue so maybe its an easier phone to crack or maybe i hit it just right.
i read a post from a guy that dropped his from his moving 18 wheeler tractor and with no case and it barely had a scratch so who knows.
I dropped mine from about 5 feet height last week and there is not a single scratch. . Luckily it landes on the bottom speaker grills side.. screen would have been a different story...phew.. I would still not use a duly case.. This phone is too hot to put a case on.. if the screen shatters, I would get it replaced. .lol
You really need to understand what hardened glass means, it does not - by any measure - mean it's harder to breaks, as a matter of fact it might actually be easier to break than regular glass. However hardened glass is harder to scratch - which is also the main focus.
So please don't blame either Samsung or Corning for the glass to behave exactly as expected...
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I never used Samsung because they Use cheap quality,After see good product comes in market they slightly price down the product
Mainaharen said:
I never used Samsung because they Use cheap quality,After see good product comes in market they slightly price down the product
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[emoji58] this thread needs to die. OP needs to be a big boy and get over it. "Stuff" happens, deal with it.
Yeah. I agree with FluffyR.
What's the purpose of this thread? The OP damaged the thing and want to blame Samsung for it? I don't get it...
@Mainaharen. The so called cheap quality /plastics that Samsung used till the S5 prevented even such damages....
You cannot change the physics of glass/metal....
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