I love it, if you havent seen or heard of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGrfQ7IKGBs&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
I use it exclusively. From an ease of use and efficiency standpoint I find it far superior to the HTC Sense interface. Admittedly, the eye candy isn't as nice as Sense, but that is not my priority. I have yet to find a better "search" screen for my contacts than the one included in the Mobile Shell.
My only two big issues with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 is that I can only have 1 location for Weather and that it doesn't have a stock ticker screen built in. If you have a solution for those two issues, please let me know.
Andrew
been using SPB shell too. Lets just put it this way the phone lasted 2 days before I flashed it with Kumars and that lasted 5 days before i put SPB on and I have had that on for the last week and have not intention of changing it
do you think you could help me with installing this on my HD2, I.e the file for it and how to install it. Thank you
SBP V.5
I like SPB Shell V.5 coming soon
does anyone have the full cab file they could give me for SPB shell
Free 15 day full version demo available @ www.spbsoftwarehouse.com.
i see, so it must not be a cab file that is circulated around.
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i see, so it must not be a cab file that is circulated around.
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Nah, it's a commercial product that continues to evolve.
I'm guessing you weren't asking for a cracked version, since I am sure you know that's against the forum rules
I love this shell. I run it exclusively on my Wing, thanks to Tribulattifather over at "[ROM]TribShell WM6.5.5[SD Version Build 23545][26.20MB Prog Mem | 71.40MB Stor Mem]"
Yeah, I said "Wing". It runs just fine on stripped-down versions of 23545, despite the RAM limitations of the device.
I still haven't gotten over the "newness" of my HD2 yet, so I'm not running it here, but I may in the future. Right now, I really enjoy the Weather Home and other fancy bits like landscaped SMS that just wouldn't work on SPB Home.
Give me a few more weeks and I'll probably jump over, especially now that they have that sweet WinPho7 skin
i just installed the trial version, and its defiantely different. i think im just gonna leave it setup factory for now, i really like the weather info on the factory theme.
I'm just holding out, that is until SPBMS v5.0 is OFFICIALLY released by SPB Software.
v3.5 is excellent, but not worth disabling Sense, in my opinion. In fact, I rather prefer the look of Titanium over standardized Mobile Shell. Then again, you can theme the HELL out of Mobile Shell, make it look pretty snazzy. LOL!
So with shell you cant use landscape mode in any programs then? It seems like there is a ton of different style themes you can change with it though. I just dont get how the trial version works, does it have everything the full version does and does your phone just reboot to normal after the 15 days then? When is the new version expected to be released?
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So with shell you cant use landscape mode in any programs then? It seems like there is a ton of different style themes you can change with it though. I just dont get how the trial version works, does it have everything the full version does and does your phone just reboot to normal after the 15 days then? When is the new version expected to be released?
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SPB Software told mobile news and blog sites that we could expect to see the official release sometime during Q4 of 2010.
i probably wont even have this phone by then LOL, i go through Phones like crazy! Just sold my nexus one though, kinda wish i woulda kept it.
i'm using the full version right now with hero sense mobile ui theme installed on top of it. phone runs much more smooth then ever before. however, nothing beats the beauty of the stock hero sense ui. right now, im taking performance over looks tho
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I love it, if you havent seen or heard of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGrfQ7IKGBs&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
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ryan562 said:
i'm using the full version right now with hero sense mobile ui theme installed on top of it. phone runs much more smooth then ever before. however, nothing beats the beauty of the stock hero sense ui. right now, im taking performance over looks tho
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Hey, you got a link to that hero sense theme? I really like spb shell too.
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So with shell you cant use landscape mode in any programs then? It seems like there is a ton of different style themes you can change with it though. I just dont get how the trial version works, does it have everything the full version does and does your phone just reboot to normal after the 15 days then? When is the new version expected to be released?
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SPB Mobile Shell does not preclude running any apps in landscape mode - all apps work the same as before. The trial version is fully functional for 15 days after which it will prompt you to register and lock some functions of the shell. You can uninstall and reboot and your phone will function the same as before you ever install the Mobile Shell.
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i just installed the trial version, and its defiantely different. i think im just gonna leave it setup factory for now, i really like the weather info on the factory theme.
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Although not as fancy as the Sense software, you do realize you can customize SPB Mobile Shell to put a weather widget on the home screen? I have mine set this way and it gives me an icon for sunny/cloudy/rainy and hi/lo temperature . . . the widget is active so if I single tap it it will bring me to a more detailed weather screen showing hour by hour and day by day weather info for 5 days.
Andrew
Once u install spb shell....are u to disable htc sense....or do u disable it before the install.....
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I still haven't gotten over the "newness" of my HD2 yet, so I'm not running it here, but I may in the future. Right now, I really enjoy the Weather Home and other fancy bits like landscaped SMS that just wouldn't work on SPB Home.
Give me a few more weeks and I'll probably jump over, especially now that they have that sweet WinPho7 skin
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What do you mean by landscape SMS not working when I am in the my SMS client i can turn it and it switches to a landscape mode
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This is RC. Screenshots
Actually, the entire world is. It was leaked to the public.
I saw a link of an all black theme for it, now I can't find it.
cool but nomore widgets?
we all are trying it lol. and yes there still is widgets.
probs so far.
- it conficts with touchflo 3d
- no box to deselect in home plugin menu
- finger scrolling working ok but could be a lot better
- no panel included in the cab install like there weather and travel software (i have a x1)
- uses a lot of wm stuff instead of there own software (eg, clock, sms, alarms, calender etc). not really a prob but would have prefered if they used the own software (jaze it up a little.
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Actually, the entire world is. It was leaked to the public.
I saw a link of an all black theme for it, now I can't find it.
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This theme?
cktlcmd said:
Actually, the entire world is. It was leaked to the public.
I saw a link of an all black theme for it, now I can't find it.
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there is a section in the program/settings menu called themes, black theme is in there but looks the same as having no theme
Installed this morning, loving it, does gradually hog the resources the more you do, but I guess the official version will be sorted, will definitely buy this, if there is only one bit of software you buy for your PPC, this is it..10 out of 10 from me.
Beats TF3D and SPB mobile shell 2 hands down.
to each their own, i installed the 'trial' and have to say that i got very disappointed; i used the v2 for a long time before i got my xperia and i loved it; now that i've seen the v3 it's uglier and less intuitive, i say no to that and stick to my tf3d which in general is also much smoother than this;
yark and blah...
Hi Guys,
I tried to install SPB Mobile Shell 3 (3.0.0 build 6363), but it failed
Anyone tried it yet, or got an other version to work.
They got it 2 work on an Touch HD > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fBRUwOYUM
And it looks cool and I really want it. Cause I don't like Touch Flow Manilla.
Hi
In my Phone is working just fine
It's a really good software, I'm waiting for the final release to buy it.
I have it and absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
Since I don't know how to flash to the HARDCPL, I figured this is the best way to make the phone look nice
Hi,
I think the commercial version of SPB Mobile shell 3 is available from today (21st April).
I just have a question for the SPB Mobile shell users (any version) -
After installing this, do we have the option to switch back to the original HTC touchflo screen (Manila 2D)? Not just by uninstalling mobile shell, but an option in the home screen selector settings to switch back and forth between touchflo and mobile shell?
I have SPM Mobile Shell 3 and it rocks!
Dunno if switching from TF2D to MS3, and vice versa, is possible.. I didn't bother testing....
izzyzc said:
I have SPM Mobile Shell 3 and it rocks!
Dunno if switching from TF2D to MS3, and vice versa, is possible.. I didn't bother testing....
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Izzyzc, will it be possible for you to check it for me??
prob is that touchflow replaces the lower left softkey to camera, but of course you can add the spb shell to the start menü and switch fast.
I have installed spb ms 3 in my xperia and I can say,is really nice,I love it, touch flows and other iphone similars you can´t compare with this,is the best!!!
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Hi
In my Phone is working just fine
It's a really good software, I'm waiting for the final release to buy it.
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SPB mb 3 is aviable in handango.com I´m allready buy them for my xperia,is amazing!!!!
Great stuff
I'm using version 3 for a week now and I love it!
I think it's the best Shell for Windows Mobile, don't you?
What if Microsoft let SPB write the entire winMo UI?
You know, things like the settings dialogs, the annoying messageboxes, that kind of stuff.
This way we can all enjoy a finger friendly UI and also - great performance.
(this is why I think it's better than the TouchFlo by the way)
some one please create a megaupload link
please can´t download to slow .... error
many thanks
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Izzyzc, will it be possible for you to check it for me??
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Oh sorry... I've already flashed my Jade with a lite ROM... No more TF2D!
Anyway, SPB MS3 is officially out! Check out SPB's website...
Love SPB Mobile Shell 3
I have installed it on my HTC Touch Pro and I LOVE IT!!! I was able to get it for free since I had just purchased the last version less than 90 days ago and I actually prefer it over TF3D and I am definitely loving the Lifestyle layouts and the way you can slide between the 3 panels. So to me it is a keeper. I think they did an execellent job
The trial is working great for me. I already had version 2, but it had bugs on my Jade so I didn't use it. I will test 3 for a couple of days and assuming it doesn't do anything silly I will definitely be buying it, it blows Touchflo out of the water.
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Hi Guys,
I tried to install SPB Mobile Shell 3 (3.0.0 build 6363), but it failed
Anyone tried it yet, or got an other version to work.
They got it 2 work on an Touch HD > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fBRUwOYUM
And it looks cool and I really want it. Cause I don't like Touch Flow Manilla.
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I had some promlems too, when i tried to use the exe-file to install (xda orbit) but with the .cab i had no probs...
Hi all.
Just letting everyone know (maybe you already know) that there is a 20 page + thread in Development & Hacking on Spb Mobile Shell 3.0:
xda-developers > General discussion > Development and Hacking
SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 - The Features....
I suggest where possible we try and share experiences on the one thread so that all valuable feedback can be found in the same location?
Mattster.
Little update:
I found downloaded and installed 3.0.0 Build 6411 and it works like a charm.
ya, my jade runs smooth on Build 6411 too...
sharky48 said:
Hi Guys,
I tried to install SPB Mobile Shell 3 (3.0.0 build 6363), but it failed
Anyone tried it yet, or got an other version to work.
They got it 2 work on an Touch HD > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fBRUwOYUM
And it looks cool and I really want it. Cause I don't like Touch Flow Manilla.
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does your phone got enough memory in the main storage?
Looks like v3.5 is out now and even better than than v3... from the looks of it anyway.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567698
Just wanted to gauge what everyone's thoughts were about which UI they prefer the most now that there are so many options.
Which do you prefer using out of the below:
TF3D
TF3D2
Titanium
Point UI
SPB Mobile Shell
Voted for TF3D even tho I haven't tested any of the other, but I've seen youtube videos.
Neither of them..Sense UI all the way.
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Neither of them..Sense UI all the way.
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It hasn't been ported to the diamond properly yet hence i left that one out.
tf3d2, love new calendar, and dipper manila
supersanj said:
It hasn't been ported to the diamond properly yet hence i left that one out.
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It doesn't matter if it hasn't been ported to the diamond..All I know is that Sense UI is the best UI out there. Just my two cents.
Wich UI do you prefer?
I would say PointUI Pro with the Sense UI themes and applets, works like a charm, feels smooth and lag free.
SPB Mobile Shell 3
SPB shell is the best for me, better than manilla, it can be configured like you want and everything it is very accesible and finger friendly.
Using titanium right now. But can't wait when HTC releases sense ui for winmo.
Also looking for good port of sense ui for now, which one you using CraZyLiLbOy ?
voted TF3D2 now it's very usable also with the "old" diamond
PointUI is really nice but wastes too much memory
SPB Shell isn't free
I really like SPB shell is the best.
Its finger friendly, customisable and easy to use.
I'm a Titanium user for now. But when Manila 2.6 shows up... I'll be switching to that!
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I'm a Titanium user for now. But when Manila 2.6 shows up... I'll be switching to that!
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Im with you on that one Trident. Can't wait for the Diamond Dev's to port it over
I feel all the new UIs are memory hungry, so use the old school Touch Home screen, got everything you need, and still room to fit a couple of home plugin's on the today screen, and it runs so much quicker than anything else I've tried (and I've tried them all)
does anyone knows where to find old school htc today for vga screen?
found couple htc today, but icons are too smal at vga screen.
This is the one I use, works fine both portrait and landscape.
Upload didn't work, here you :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5P18BXUV
I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU
matrix77 said:
I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU
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Agreed. Everything is so much easier with it. You dont even have to use the start menu if you configure it properly.
SPB mobile shell is well worth the $30
Done a little bit of searching but can't seem to find an answer to this question.
I've already flashed to HSPL and basically I'm now looking for a stable leaked or cooked ROM that works well with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 on my HTC HD2. A WM 6.5.3 or 6.5.5 version is preferred so that its possible to get the taskbar, start menu, etc altered to the way I'd like it, as that doesn't appear to be possible with the bog standard 6.5 release I think?
Does anyone have any suggestions or use a leaked/cooked ROM with SPB 3.5 with no major issues?
Many thanks.
All versions of spb have been power sapping in my experience so I wouldn't recommend any.
Anyone?
I've seen some videos on YouTube etc where people are using 6.5.3 on SPB 3.5 but they don't mention the actual rom.
Some info would be helpful as I don't want to have to test numerous roms or potentially harm my phone.
you will have to test it yourself by the looks, i would have thought the cooked rom wouldnt an the issue
I've tested SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 with most of my earlier custom ROMs and never had any problems. To be honest though I've fallen out of love with it: some aspects such as the contacts list are really ugly compared with Sense, and there is a lot of superfluous iconage that you can't hide or remove...it seems very cluttered and clunky since I've gotten used to Sense. I did notice a performance hit when using SPB as opposed to Sense too.
Out of interest, what is it that you prefer about SPB? I found that the only reason I was persevering in the end was because I had paid for the software!
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I've tested SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 with most of my earlier custom ROMs and never had any problems. To be honest though I've fallen out of love with it: some aspects such as the contacts list are really ugly compared with Sense, and there is a lot of superfluous iconage that you can't hide or remove...it seems very cluttered and clunky since I've gotten used to Sense. I did notice a performance hit when using SPB as opposed to Sense too.
Out of interest, what is it that you prefer about SPB? I found that the only reason I was persevering in the end was because I had paid for the software!
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The level of customization possible with SPB Shell 3.5 (together with Mskip ultimate) puts this interface light years ahead of SENSE in terms of functionality.
I understand that there are customisation options that Sense doesn't have but what exactly do they give you in terms of day-to-day usablilty?
I'm not criticizing your preference, I'm just interested as I find the simplicity of Sense to be deceptive as in terms of raw USABILITY it offers just as quick access to core functions as SPB but also FEELS nice. Many of the functions of SPB seem a little too showy and slightly pointless - like the spinning cylinder thing - and there is no way to remove the icons that lead to them. Maybe I should try SPB again but...Hmm well it just seems a little out of date, and I'm not keen on those Androidy cartoon icons that Mskip offers
Looking forward to V5 coming out though, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.
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Many of the functions of SPB seem a little too showy and slightly pointless - like the spinning cylinder thing - and there is no way to remove the icons that lead to them.
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True, but the idiotic cylinder is the only idiotic feature you can't disable in SPB.
Maybe I should try SPB again but...Hmm well it just seems a little out of date, and I'm not keen on those Androidy cartoon icons that Mskip offers.
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For me, Mskip is nothing about cartoonish icons, rather it gives me the ability to get rid of the lower bottom bar which originally links to things I don't need. Also, it gives me to use invisible icons, which I use on top of widgets to gain extra functionality.
I understand that there are customisation options that Sense doesn't have but what exactly do they give you in terms of day-to-day usablilty?
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In terms of day to day usability, well, let's take the main screen. In SENSE, a huge part of it is taken by a useless clock, you also can't watch more than 1 appointment (and even with the recent extension to watch more, you still need to slide your finder to see more than 1), you also can't see your tasks at all. In my main screen I have a preview of several appointments and tasks with very functional widgets. I've customized it using an invisible icon so that clicking on the appointments widget takes me directly to Thumbcall's "make new appointment" link, and the same for tasks. I also get mail/sms/missed phone call/voicemail notification on the main screen using widgets.
After some tweaking, SPB Shell 3.5 feels like a glove on your hand, yet with the SENSE UI I never get this feeling, it's more cumbersome and things aren't exactly where I want them to be. Also, I hate the stupid swipe in order to switch between tabs, it's slow and inaccurate.
Looking forward to V5 coming out though, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.
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Please don't, V5 offers nothing above V3.5, apart from some nice 3D effects. It really should have gotten a V3.6 mark (But "5" is simply stupid).
The reason they skipped ahead to 5 is something to do with the number "4" being unlucky in eastern countries, or so I've read.
I got pulled in and paid for 3.5 after seeing seeing some HTC HD2 devices on youtube with different themes using its shell. But I am eagerly awaiting SPB MS 5 myself as I am a sucker for eyecandy with the ability to have as much custimization as possible a big plus in my eyes. It's a matter of taste.
All this aside I've been trying numerous 6.5.x roms and I have yet to find one that does not have some glitch somewhere or work seamlessly with SPB 3.5.
So again, if anyone out there is using a cooked rom that is 6.5.3 onwards with SPB 3.5 with little trouble, I'd be greatful to know which one.
i have used spb 3.5 withe the miri xtra light roms. currently on 5.1 but will be flashing 5.2 tonight. only one from the range i have had issues wih is 5.1. hope that
I'm using Leo Lite V2.5 ROM with SPB Shell 3.5 and have no problems...
What problems are you talking about ?
Spb 3.5 problems resolved
HI , I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM ON MY HTC HD2 A FEW DAYS AGO ND I RESOLVE WITH THIS PROGRAM (PocketShield_Setup) IS A LOCK AND UNLOCK APP. AND U CAN CHOSE MANY FUCTION ON HOW TO LOCK OR UNLOCK UR DIVICE AND ONE OF THOSE FUNCTIONS GIVES U THE OPORTUNITY TO EVERY TIME THAT U UNLOCK YOUR HD2 WILL TAKE U BACK TO THE ORIGINAL HTC SENSE SCREEN WITH ALL THE SETTINGS WORKING AND BACK TO UR MB 3.5 IF UR WANT WITHOUT A PROBLEM.
I HOPE THIS HELP U AND SORRY FOR MY INGLISH
So, still awaiting the day when I can grab my Imagio. SOON! Anyway, question for all you users out there. Just opinions, as I have not worked with either one really (I played with SPB on my iPaq, but memory sucked on the iPaq, so no good comparison).
Which do you find better in terms of usability, finger friendlyness, and overall customization? TF3D or SPB Mobil Shell?
JerryA said:
So, still awaiting the day when I can grab my Imagio. SOON! Anyway, question for all you users out there. Just opinions, as I have not worked with either one really (I played with SPB on my iPaq, but memory sucked on the iPaq, so no good comparison).
Which do you find better in terms of usability, finger friendlyness, and overall customization? TF3D or SPB Mobil Shell?
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I have to say SPB all the way. It seems faster to me and certainly more customizable. My biggest complaint about SPB is that the weather doesnt get my locale from GPS.
Thanks Mike, but just lounging around a few posts, actually ran into a poll regarding this question, so feel like a duffas for not finding it earlier in my previous search for just this subject. Kinda a landslide for the touchflo, so will see how I like it, and if not, will try SPB, or may even run Androkkid to see if it will work with 6.5.
So, I am trying the demo of the SPB Mobile Shell. I noticed that the carousel doesnt 'float' when I tilt my Imagio, is that becouse its just a trial version, or is there something else going on?
JerryA said:
So, I am trying the demo of the SPB Mobile Shell. I noticed that the carousel doesnt 'float' when I tilt my Imagio, is that becouse its just a trial version, or is there something else going on?
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Its a configuration under the spb mobile shell settings.
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Its a configuration under the spb mobile shell settings.
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I think I am wrong on that. Mine moves on touch but not on tilt.
I tried to activate the 3d acceleration, thinking that might be it, that froze up my system, had to do a soft reset. I think it has potential, but it seems more to be eye candy to me. I think I will stick with the stock TF3D, that seems to actually work better for me.
Edit - Actually, after soft reset, it works, sorta. I thought it would rotate based on the angle of the phone (g-sensor), but it only 'floats' with my finger. Still eye candy, wish it would also rotate to landscape.
TF3D for me
JerryA said:
So, still awaiting the day when I can grab my Imagio. SOON! Anyway, question for all you users out there. Just opinions, as I have not worked with either one really (I played with SPB on my iPaq, but memory sucked on the iPaq, so no good comparison).
Which do you find better in terms of usability, finger friendlyness, and overall customization? TF3D or SPB Mobil Shell?
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After using both, I really like the stock TF3D because I find that SPB is just too cluttered with eye candy. TF3D is more refined and it is at least as functional as SPB, perhaps even more so. It's definitely more streamlined and better organized, imho..
Yea, just had to do a second soft reset, this was after trying to remove it! So even though it really looks cool, I need something a bit more stable, functional, and effective.
I use both, i like the SPB shell most of the time and when I want to experience the TF3D i just go to the today tab in the settings and under the Items tab either tick the Launch TouchFlo 3D line which give user option to activate TF3D from the today screen or just tick the TouchFlo 3D line to activate when i hit the ok button on top and then go to the Today screen and there it is in all its simplisity. when i want the spb shell back i either reverse the process or tap on the start tab in the upper left coner one time then hit the back button.
I think you should try the maxsense ui rom that energy roms has cooked up. but you have to understand custom roms and how to flash. Id do a google search of maxsense and watch some reviews. it a cross between mobile shell and TF3D.
bign94 said:
I think you should try the maxsense ui rom that energy roms has cooked up. but you have to understand custom roms and how to flash. Id do a google search of maxsense and watch some reviews. it a cross between mobile shell and TF3D.
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Alot has changed since I started this, I have my Imagio now, and have allready thrown on one of NRG Sense ROMs with the addition of CHT 1.8.5.1 as well. I have switched between Sense, ThrottleLauncher, SPB, Androkkid, PointUI, and Infinity.
Each one has its strengths, as well as weaknesses. I find Sense to be the most stable, but limited in customization compared to the others. It does very well in putting what I really need right there at the home screen. And the ability to have 4 home screens is nice. Limited to what 'widgets' and where they get placed is unfortunate, but I think that the effectiveness of CHT and Sense outweighs those issues.
TL has some great strengths in regard to the plethora of themes out there, the customization, and the ease doing that type of work. Disadvanges to me is that its not very stable, and gets a little quirky sometimes. But again, all the things I can do with it make up for the occasional soft reset.
SPB to me is really just a toy to show off. I have tried it three times now, and just can't seem to get something that I really like. I have a hard time navigating between everything, and again, its limited in 'widgets' as well, and no, I haven't tried all the different themes. But there always seems to be something that causes me to soft reset at least once a week.
Androkkid is fun as well, but the graphics aren't the best. It really is super easy to use and super easy to theme and customize, but there isn't alot of stuff going on with it. It was great for my old iPaq, but not as good for my Imagio.
PointUI is just way too freaking hard to figure out. I have tried multiple themes, multiple installs, and it never works right. Weather doesn't work, time can't change, I could continue to list, but don't have the time.
Infinity is probably the one that I would consider the most stable aftermarket UI out there, unfortunatly, its a dead UI, as the developer hasn't done anything in forever. Its super smooth, easy to customize, and I especially love the bubble's SMS capabilites! Its perhaps the most stable out of all the UI's I have tried, without one glitch that I can remember. I just wish there was more interest in it.
So I will continue to help the folks over at TL work on their themes through testing, and continue to use Sense whenever I am just working normal.
thanks for the input though! Its best to say that this thread is actually closed.