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Evolution Rom

Hello, I plan on releasing a rom as soon as the phone is rooted. If you could ask for one thing you would like in a phone what would it be? The rom will be free! Check back here when the phone is released!
Kyle Cole
twitter.com/kylecole90
evolution-rom.blogspot.com

A black and red/blue theme(either)
and clear rose would be awesome

This might be a given, but I'd like for it to be free of any and all pre-installed Sprint apps, which I know are installed on the device courtesy of several Youtube videos.

Mecha2142 said:
This might be a given, but I'd like for it to be free of any and all pre-installed Sprint apps, which I know are installed on the device courtesy of several Youtube videos.
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Yes, i plan on uninstalling all of the sprint apps that are just for advertising.

I'd ask for free 4G mobile hot spot tethering, but that might be controlled via a Sprint app, still worth mentioning though.

Its a definite that i will include free Wifi tethering and a LAN option!

KyleCole90 said:
Its a definite that i will include free Wifi tethering and a LAN option!
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Awesome, actually not sure if we're talking about the samething I meant the built in router on the 4G that allows you to tether off to up to 8 different devices. That's why I said not sure if that's possible, but if not tethering would be good enough for me too, thanks by the way.

Sebrina said:
Awesome, actually not sure if we're talking about the samething I meant the built in router on the 4G that allows you to tether off to up to 8 different devices. That's why I said not sure if that's possible, but if not tethering would be good enough for me too, thanks by the way.
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Yes, you will be able to use it as a router. Sorry about the miscommunication.

AOSP
Make the rom AOSP?

ihakr said:
Make the rom AOSP?
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I don't know about that, I might make a separate build for that. I'm not a big fan of AOSP roms.

Winmo's sense on the homescreen with cookies home tab and advanced home tab duskified.

Manicmobileaddict said:
Winmo's sense on the homescreen with cookies home tab and advanced home tab duskified.
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I don't know if it's possible to get the clock to flip the way it does on WinMo. I know alot of users have requested this on Android and have been told it's not possible. I'm no expert so I really can't comment on why but that's what has been said.

After Android 2.2 is released, will it be possible base your custom ROM's on the update?

Sebrina said:
I don't know if it's possible to get the clock to flip the way it does on WinMo. I know alot of users have requested this on Android and have been told it's not possible. I'm no expert so I really can't comment on why but that's what has been said.
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I also do not think it is possible but i will do further research and find out the correct answer.

audscott said:
After Android 2.2 is released, will it be possible base your custom ROM's on the update?
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I have no idea. I'm hoping that the Evo doesn't release with 2.2 because i already have a good handle of 2.1. Even if it does 2.2 will only open the door to more features for the ROM.

Here is the possible boot screen
http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1273440361
Here is a little Ad. Just for laughs!
http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1273640037

Nexus Launcher! And not helix, actual launcher2, the app screen is way nicer on the nexus one than it is on helix launcher.

A barebones, stripped down, AOSP version of 2.1.

Fadakar said:
Nexus Launcher! And not helix, actual launcher2, the app screen is way nicer on the nexus one than it is on helix launcher.
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I totally agree. I hate the look of helix!

I wouldn't mind one at first that just removes the Sprint apps and adds wifi tethering. Any performance tweaks would be welcome as well.

Froyo overall impressions

I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!

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muncheroo said:
I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!
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test test test

Yeah I wouldnt mind hearing from someone that came from say CM5 to the latest stock Froyo. Is it better? Is it worth flashing now seeing as how CM6 is about a week or so away?
I would try it now myself, but I can't give up the dumb little things. (such as trackball wake)

I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo. I was surprised that the final Froyo release seemed faster and smoother than FRF83. The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT. I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.

Super. Wonderful. Amazing. Thank you Google and anyone else on the OHA that contributed to this.
It's great. I love it. I love it even more when someone hands me a HTC Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile on it... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.

clickwir said:
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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Look at my sig pic, WM is all I ever used for years. I dabbled with android with emulators on my Fuze, then finally made the jump when the N1 was released. After using it for 1 day, I was emotional.
I really can't think of one single thing I miss with WM...

irishrally said:
The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT.
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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.

pfmiller said:
I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.
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Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).

irishrally said:
Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).
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The JIT actually wouldn't have any impact on loading times. The standard interpreted code is always run initially. It's only once the app starts running that the JIT is able to locate frequently accessed blocks of code that would benefit from compiling to native code.

irishrally said:
I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo ...
... I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.
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I too have used CyanogenMod since I had my G1. I DID play with, and greatly enjoy the Froyo ROM when it was released by PaulObrien.
But I did miss some of Cyanogens special additions, so I went back to it a few weeks ago.
Now with the latest Froyo out, I may change over - AGAIN!
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... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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hahaha, funny you mentioned that.
A co-worker of mine approached me, and said he bought this Android™ phone from a friend. He heard that I know about Android, rooting, apps, etc. so he had some questions for me. He hands me the phone, and I was thrilled to hold this LARGE HTC DEVICE in my hand. I haven't held an EVO, yet, so imagine my joy!!! My first time ya know so I was honored.
It was branded T-MOBILE though ... hhmm, this can't be right!!! It should say Sprint!!!
After seeing the homescreen and tapping/flicking/swiping for all of 1.0 seconds, I handed it back to him and told him he has a Windows Mobile device - NOT ANDROID, and boy oh boy, was he pissed!!!! LMAO
Poor guy!
"If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it."
I let him play with my Nexus for a few minutes. He offered to buy it from me for $450 .... nuh uh homeboy! This is my baby!

2.1 limitations and possible work arounds

It would appear that our long wait is drawing to end and the 2.1 should be released shortly. Unfortunately, there are some features that us soon to be 2.1 owners might still be missing to complete our X10 experience.
In order to get a jump on future improvements this thread is a place where you can comment on features that you would like to see added/cooked to our X10's after the revision.
What feature would you like to see added? Portable HotSpots, Voice Command over Bluetooth, Data backup, 10.1, etc...
Or, maybe you know about an existing work around and would like to spread the word?

Portable hotspots can be done now (with root access)...Barnacle WiFi Tether from the Market.
Besides for Flash and the speed improvements, I don't really need Froyo. Automatic app updates would be nice, and voice commands too, but I doubt I'd ever really use that.

I've already used froyo on my nexus one when I had it and I couldn't care less for froyo. 2.1 is most definitely good enough for me. 720p video recording, 16million colors is all I want. Mt doesn't matter either. 2.1 drops and ill be set.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692

chris_knows said:
Portable hotspots can be done now (with root access)...Barnacle WiFi Tether from the Market.
Besides for Flash and the speed improvements, I don't really need Froyo. Automatic app updates would be nice, and voice commands too, but I doubt I'd ever really use that.
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Thanks for the info on Barnacle. Have you used it? Maybe this is a silly question, but I know you lose SE updates with root. Would auto app updates still work from a rooted device?
And, 10.1 yeah that is a pretty big one. I really don't need a cell phone/portable device, but since I have it, 10.1 is a big yes. Kind of THE reason I purchased the X10.

fm1776 said:
And, 10.1 yeah that is a pretty big one. I really don't need a cell phone/portable device, but since I have it, 10.1 is a big yes. Kind of THE reason I purchased the X10.
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You purchased a phone based on it's potential ability to run an incredibly useless web plug-in?
Do you really like advertisements?

Slowmotion video recording, just as new droid has.

tigger69 said:
unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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Well if this turns out to be true there will be even more upset X10 owners than there already are.

iead1 said:
You purchased a phone based on it's potential ability to run an incredibly useless web plug-in?
Do you really like advertisements?
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This is a friendly thread, please no personal attacks or flaming.

Wonder that with a rooted mobile app can get payment is via market, hotspots, screenshot, but not an app that can do that stored on the sdcard instead of internal...Sorry for my semi OT...

dong2007 said:
Wonder that with a rooted mobile app can get payment is via market, hotspots, screenshot, but not an app that can do that stored on the sdcard instead of internal...Sorry for my semi OT...
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It never crossed my mind. A valid point.
Apps to sdcard would be a blessing. I hope this could be added. It would make a root worth while.

fm1776 said:
This is a friendly thread, please no personal attacks or flaming.
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Not a personal attack or flaming.
I'm curious to why Flash is needed on a mobile phone. The option to have it is nice, but it not being there is definitely not a drawback. Most big video sites use HTML5 for video now, and for the few that don't, Skyfire works fine in loading the videos up. The only other things Flash is used for is ads, games and poorly designed websites. For games, 95% would control absolutely awfully, due to the lack of physical controls on the device. And no one wants to view ads if they don't have to.
Hence, my reasoning for not considering a "lack" of Flash as a "limitation" of 2.1.

fm1776 said:
Well if this turns out to be true there will be even more upset X10 owners than there already are.
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The thing is, we all bought this phone knowing it supports 65k colors.
SE didn't say anywhere that it will get 16mil with 2.1 upgrade ... or anything else.
People assumed is a 1.6 downside (like the 256Mb ram vs 384) and because the mini was advertised as 16mil it means X10 has it too.
Time will tell if is a driver issue or hardware issue

Not having 16m colors is kind of a bummer. Not really needed though.
All i'm really looking forward to at this point is the app compatibility. Anything else is just icing on the cake.

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Not a personal attack or flaming.
I'm curious to why Flash is needed on a mobile phone. The option to have it is nice, but it not being there is definitely not a drawback. Most big video sites use HTML5 for video now, and for the few that don't, Skyfire works fine in loading the videos up. The only other things Flash is used for is ads, games and poorly designed websites. For games, 95% would control absolutely awfully, due to the lack of physical controls on the device. And no one wants to view ads if they don't have to.
Hence, my reasoning for not considering a "lack" of Flash as a "limitation" of 2.1.
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It's needed because it's highly desired and also available on other phones - I don't mean to sound cynical or rhetoric but I certainly want it for a variety of reasons. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Even so, many people like myself highly desire this.

unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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They say "at this time" which tells me not with 2.1 but maybe with that updtate to timescape/mediascape they are talking about....if not I think I will be a unhappy camper.
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fm1776 said:
It never crossed my mind. A valid point.
Apps to sdcard would be a blessing. I hope this could be added. It would make a root worth while.
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+1, only thing i'd really really like to see enginered to our 2.1 is app2sd. Not that i have so many apps it's a total need for it, just becouse i like it that way. Feels better to have a clean rom. Easier to re-flash and play around with cooked roms without having to re-install all apps aswell.
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Not sure how many people have seen this and whether they believe it to be real.
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/09/11/android-roadmap-leaked-for-xperia-x10-family/
I reckon the chance of getting anything additional to whats been listed (If this is real) are fairly low taking into account the SE software development speed we've come to know and love.
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"

Reeonimus said:
Not having 16m colors is kind of a bummer. Not really needed though.
All i'm really looking forward to at this point is the app compatibility. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
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It doesn't really effect me either. But I know that there will be people who might be left wanting.
We all want different things from our X10's. The idea of the thread is that we high light what is important to each of us. And, we can post work around as we find them.

bongd said:
It's needed because it's highly desired and also available on other phones - I don't mean to sound cynical or rhetoric but I certainly want it for a variety of reasons. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Even so, many people like myself highly desire this.
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I am with you on that. If I could only ask for one thing it would start with 10.1.
Not saying that there isn't a list of other things that I would like. Such as apps2sd. We can only hope and wait for someone to either come up with a work around or buy a device with more features.

Froyo

What is this and do I need or want it?

Timco said:
What is this and do I need or want it?
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You really should have looked it up but...
Basically, the Samsung Vibrant runs Android 2.1
Froyo is Android 2.2
There are many new features in Android 2.2, including a flash player, so yes, you want it, no you don't need it.

google.com

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google.com
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Soooo nice of you to take the time to post that. Are you always so smug?

flash, air, c2dm, apps that require 2.2
u want and need it

Thanks.
GTASouthPark said:
You really should have looked it up but...
Basically, the Samsung Vibrant runs Android 2.1
Froyo is Android 2.2
There are many new features in Android 2.2, including a flash player, so yes, you want it, no you don't need it.
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Yes, I coud have but forums like this can explain these things better and if a rooted phone with galaxysrooter can just simply update when this thing comes out. Thank you for your time.

Just a bit offtopic but i want to know if the default browser in 2.2 has tab?
Or it is only faster than that of 2.1
I tried most of the browser and find that the default is the best, however it is missing tab browsing

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Froyo This will not only tell you everything you need to know but it will also help you with any other questions you may have. Teach a man to fish...

Timco said:
What is this and do I need or want it?
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http://letmegooglethat4u.com/?q=Android+Froyo

Timco said:
Yes, I coud have but forums like this can explain these things better and if a rooted phone with galaxysrooter can just simply update when this thing comes out. Thank you for your time.
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So, you'd rather make somebody here do research and type up a dissertation for you when you could spend a minute to look up a much better explanation that's already been typed up? Is your time more valuable than that of others, or what?

are you this incompetent in "real life" as well?
seriously Timco - the suggestion for using the search function was the best response you could get, followed by the old adage "google.com".
it's better to teach you a lesson than give you an answer

2.2
Timco said:
What is this and do I need or want it?
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Here let me google that for you.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Android+2.2

Timco said:
What is this and do I need or want it?
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Froyo is Tmobile speak for...
Fixed Rom On Your phOne.
So basically if you get it, your phone becomes locked to their stuff.

Timco, timco
It will help you in life if you are curious That said, the next thing is doing the research ........ that is what YOU need to do...... with Google, or other search engines you can get so much info on Anything it is amazing. Then you can come and ask the finer points of what you have found and get more from the informed techies that are in XDA.

Holy F, There are a Lot of ROMs

Just went to look at the dev section. Come on... Really?

Is a big selection a problem?
Sent from my HTC Magic SparksMod using XDA App

FYI about "all" the roms... in terms of FROYO roms, they are virtually ALL THE SAME -- CM6. The rest of them are actually just rebranded CM6.

Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.

It's not that bad - there were times when you could choose from really different ROMs, but then Cyanogen started to support G1 with his CyanogenMod and these days there's only few the bravest who try to build their ROM from AOSP, not from CM source.
So it's like CM AND themed/renamed/scripted MC.

fw_ said:
Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.
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That isn't a belief. Its a FACT.
And newbs like you should mind their manners.

johnson8cyl said:
Is a big selection a problem?
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In terms of trying them all to find a preferred one? I guess it's up to the person and how much time they have.
fw_ said:
Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.
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Sorry to offend you chap. I love innovation fwiw. I like the skinning of the CM base too. But again, wow, there are a lot. Thanks for commenting!

I miss this about my MT3G.
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Do you seriously think there are a lot of ROMs?
Maybe over time, not updated ones. You have no idea how sweet it was when Donut was still the big player.

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Do you seriously think there are a lot of ROMs?
Maybe over time, not updated ones. You have no idea how sweet it was when Donut was still the big player.
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Heh, it's like when I first got my G1 and watching the android store: "Oh! There's another one!".
I've been around since the beginning and you are right about how "sweet" and exciting it was when the updates came fast and furious. I guess I've been spoiled by that experience, and now it seems to me there are two pages of same ol' different bonnet.
To be clear, not saying this is a bad thing.

yeah, feel ya buddy, i got my g1 less than a week ago, and i felt exactly like you when i wanted to chose a ROM to flash.
I flashed CM6 just to try it out, then switched to biffmod 2.sth, which is like a shaved CM. biff runs a lot faster than CM for me, but i need some ROM that will let at leaste SOME ram free, and that wont kill my battery in just a few hours.. i guess ill have to go for eclair or donut,, i just didnt want to miss froyo updates..
so if you do find some good ROM, let me know

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yeah, feel ya buddy, i got my g1 less than a week ago, and i felt exactly like you when i wanted to chose a ROM to flash.
I flashed CM6 just to try it out, then switched to biffmod 2.sth, which is like a shaved CM. biff runs a lot faster than CM for me, but i need some ROM that will let at leaste SOME ram free, and that wont kill my battery in just a few hours.. i guess ill have to go for eclair or donut,, i just didnt want to miss froyo updates..
so if you do find some good ROM, let me know
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I always keep going back to Chromium.

lbcoder said:
FYI about "all" the roms... in terms of FROYO roms, they are virtually ALL THE SAME -- CM6. The rest of them are actually just rebranded CM6.
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Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.

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I always keep going back to Chromium.
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I'll make sure to try that one, can you provide a link? (only few results in search and doesnt seem to be it,..)
Im looking for something like milestone's EclairLess, but that would work on the Dream.. anyone?

jubeh said:
Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.
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True dat! I've been using since it was released, are you ever going to update it?

jubeh said:
Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.
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He said virtually. And cause yours ain't cm based, im DEF gonna give it a try! Are you planning on getting cam working? Is it you own kernel? Nm, I'll just go read your thread. =]
Oh wait! If I recall you had the first "froyo" right! I was just remembering how that rom was stable for a week with no slowdowns! It just had missing functionality.... I missed that your still developing, I thought you stopped on froyo cause of cm. Going to look for it now. Thx

jinxie said:
I'll make sure to try that one, can you provide a link? (only few results in search and doesnt seem to be it,..)
Im looking for something like milestone's EclairLess, but that would work on the Dream.. anyone?
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Chromium 4.5. It's in the first two pages, I'm on an iPad now so posting links is like pulling teeth, sorry. I've been on Super F now for 24+ hours and it's pretty good too.
Anyone able to recommend a donut or eclair that is still being maintained I would be much obliged.

aaaah I think its called "Chromatic", not "Chromium", thats why I couldnt find it.. lol
ill give it a try, but anyways, Im still looking for a very light 2.1 to see if I can get more battery life and RAM