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This thing hangs more than a....well something that hangs about 4 or 5 times a day...

Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!

What did you do ? Any pattern ?

blackb1ade said:
Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!
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Not much info there, my pictures hang up... on the wall everyday.
What are you doing? What have you been doing? Is it due to memory being full (as apps aren't closing)

Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?

You must have a duff unit!
Well mine has been completely spot on!
Maybe its something you have installed causing issues? Try uninstalling things one by one to see if that rectifies any problems you may have.

NSAgent said:
Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?
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"Hangs" means "crashes" or, more precisely "becomes completely and permanently unresponsive to anything less than a soft reset".

Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....

blackb1ade said:
Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....
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I really would consider that you may have a duff unit. There are loads of peoeple on here who advise the screen is too responsive! Plus the lack of memory sounds like the biggest issue.
When you navigate to the windows folder, do you actually let it load or do you just leave it? Reason I ask is that there are thousands of files in there and it does take a while to read them. It did on my HD anyway.
Seems like when reg edits have been done to get task manager working how we are all used to it, should be working better.
Oh, software is made for resistive screens so some presses wont register as the software is more than likely looking for a more presice tap rather than a finer splodged over the actual area its looking for a response in. Should be fine later down the line when more things are brought to capacitive screens.
Hope it all works out for ya

That is true - the menus are a little small for finger use - so it will be a case of waiting I guess.
I removed all the progs that I'd installed already (includng 'microsoft my phone' - forgot about that one)
Screen is very responsive most of the time - but then sometimes it just seems to space out- almost like you catch it off guard - not what I'd expect frankly
It does eventually load the windows folder in explorer - but it takes about 2 1/2 mins to do so - no other folder does that to it, nor any other action - and it wasn't doing that up until yesterday
Hard reset next [if i can figure out how...] - if that doesn't yield significant improvement then it's back to TCR for an exchange (provided some more units have turned up by now!!)
Cheers though

Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.

owz206 said:
Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.
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+1 ...... Mine loads in a split second

My phone doesnt hangs, but my /windows folder takes about 1/2 minutes in load.

No problems here either. One recommendation though for those with slow file list loading: try to enable and up the caches (which are stock) with Advanced Config. You will gain some more speed!

Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.

blackb1ade said:
Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.
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Sounds like Kinomaplay is searching and associating with files in the background. I think it may be set to do that by default but you can tell it not to in the settings - only trouble is you may have to wait for it to do it's thing as not sure if you can interrupt it. I got so fed up with the programme on the HD I trashed it - lovely interface though

Strange thing with Windows folder loading, with the "normal" Explorer it takes my device a very long time too (first few times did a soft reset because i thought it was hung also), but with Total Commander explorer the Windows folder is there instantly, sounds like Explorer runs into something, just have to figure out what though.
Crazy . . . . . . . . . . .

Mine takes just a split second to load windows folder!
But it crashes 2 - 3 times a day! Without doing nothing! When i try to unlock it, screen wont go on! Battery off, here we go again! And i got the no sound problem.. After 3-5 calls, i car hear what others are saying but they cant hear a word from me!! This is happening all time.. (tested all this even with stock rom and no apps installed or any tweak etc..)
I read here in the forums that other people have similar problems..And in italy the distribution stopped because of defected rom??
Some say it heppened in france too.. (allthough i live in greece, i got mine sent from france, expansys headquarters..)
So maybe its roms problem? Or just me having a possible defected device..?
Any of you with freezing problems etc..??

Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...

drfroz said:
Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...
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I noticed that the hangs have something to do with the charging of the phone,no matter if its via usb or power pluged. Thanks for confirming though.. This is MAJOR issue for me..You think that your phone is ok in your pockets but it is shut down!!
About the sound problem i mentioned before?

Knock on wood my HD2 is rocksolid for now! Everything is fast and stable!

HTC TD2 freeze problem since WM6.5 upgrade

Since upgrading my TD2 to the official WM6.5 ROM issued by HTC I have had problems with the handset freezing; the only remedy has been to remove the battery and switch back on. At first I thought it was a hardware fault but a friend's phone has also started doing the same since he upgraded. This never happened previously and only happens every ten days or so.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems?

I'm having the same problems mate. My TD2 on 6.5 freezes spoaradically - I'd say at least twice a week, and the only solution is to remove the battery.
I've been trying to link the freeze with a particular program or app but the phone has frozen at varying times and in many cases whilst no apps are running!
I'm waiting for upgrade on my contract as I've had it with this TD2 and especially WinMo. I mean, how can WinMo store all saved words in SMS on RAM only for it to be wiped after every restart/soft reset?! Why? Argh!
I'm going for the Hero next, and see how nice Android plays!
Good luck with your query...
Mo

miker1892 said:
Since upgrading my TD2 to the official WM6.5 ROM issued by HTC I have had problems with the handset freezing; the only remedy has been to remove the battery and switch back on. At first I thought it was a hardware fault but a friend's phone has also started doing the same since he upgraded. This never happened previously and only happens every ten days or so.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems?
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Does it do this without the mem card installed?

Exactly the same is happening here and the same on my friend's TD2. We have never tried WM 6.1, the first step after purchasing the phone was to upgrade to stock WM 6.5 ROM.
I tried to disable the weather animation on home screen but this doesn't help. My friend has disabled HTC sense and his phone has not frozen after one week. We will have to wait another week or two to proof that this could be the solution.
I hope that Touch Flo is not the cause of this malfunction because WM6.5 UI is very ugly.
I don’t know if the mem card could cause this issue but using the phone without mem card is simply not an option for me. The phone memory is too limited.
My friend also raises this issue on HTC support but so far HTC is ignoring the problem. The only bright word from HTC support was that they will investigate this issue (after many words on how to flash, reflash and hard reset ...).
I really hope that the solution for this very inconvenience will be find out soon.

My TD2 also freezes often compared to Win 6.1 where it almost never froze. I also hope that HTC will make some kind of service pack for Win 6.5 as it doesn't work that well at the moment.

pa49 said:
Does it do this without the mem card installed?
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Not tried it without the memory card, but I need the card for storage. Never froze prior to 6.5 upgrade.

miker1892 said:
Not tried it without the memory card, but I need the card for storage. Never froze prior to 6.5 upgrade.
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I'm not suggesting that anyone uses the device without a mem card! You are missing my point.
Phones that freeze do so for a reason and it's necessary to eliminate possible causes.
Some two years ago I did extensive testing on this subject when the same issues arose around another make and model of phone.
One thing I found is that it is possible to induce instability of handsets when mem cards are used (abused?) in certain ways.
My TD2 used to freeze when I first got it and it has also done so with a number of cooked ROMs. With my current ROM it never freezes and there are no instability issues.
I strongly suspect poor coding of apps and lack of thorough beta testing. Isn't it strange how some apps have been around for years and you can rely on their worth?
Installing to mem card causes issues as well as cards that have installed apps being reused after cooked ROM flashing and previous settings and fat tables being left on the card.
Also when power is low mem cards draw large currents that the battery may not be able to give. They are very power hungry. I took this up with Sandisk Tech Dept and they politely told me that the info on current draw under stress (usage) was not for public access!
So my answer is keep your ROM light (no manila or after market 'front end'), minimise card usage by installing all you can to phone mem, reformat afresh with every ROM flash and keep your battery as highly charged as possible at all times.
Some say 'yes but I do all those things and I never get freezes'. That's fine but no help to those that do.
There really is only one way to find out and that is to take a little time and try it for yourself.

Large address book combined with bad 3rd party program
On my Tilt2 I found that applications like Fring could freeze the phone. After a few tries, I decided not intall that anymore (and Fring might have fixed it by now, but I can't afford to try, because uninstalling required a hard reset).
The phone originally came with HTC TouchFLO, but I switched that off, since it just made everything more difficult to reach. And sometimes the fhone became unresponsive, slow or totally frooze. After I disabled it by using the Windows Today (6.5 or classic) after which I only had about 2 freezes in 1.5 year.
Now I finally upgraded to the latest official ROM for the phone, which has HTC Sense on it. After everybody saying how great Sense was, I gave it a try. It worked reasonably, until I started playing with the Favorites in the Peoples tab. After each new addition (I tried 3) I had to restart the phone, and after restart it still hung up.
I happen to have a quite large address book that I synchronize with ActiveSync. I think I'm starting to see a pattern, where several applications - Fring, Sense, etc - just cannot handle large address books.
By the way, to disable Sense, first switch to the Windows Default (= WinMo 6.5) Today screen, and do a soft reset to get rid of Sense background processes. If you want to use the WinMo classic Today screen, then you can do that after the reset. Directly trying to move from Sense to WinMo classic resulted in another freeze. After disabling Sense, I haven't experienced a freeze, (yet !!!).

^^Try a custom rom,Sense works fine on those as the ROM is highly modified with few errors now.

highly unstable hd2, help...

hi all, i resently got the hd2, updated it with the new rom, and thereby hoped to be free of errors... however i seem to experiense a whole lot of error, more than i had expected... sometimes it wont come back from sleep, it only turns on the backlight of the hardware buttons. then i have to kill it by removing the battery. also sometimes it wont establish connection to the net, then i have to turn off the radio and turn it on again. the phone is 7 days old, and i have had the battery out 20 times allready... is this unusual? should i contact htc? and what are your experiences with their support?

Samoht2003 said:
hi all, i resently got the hd2, updated it with the new rom, and thereby hoped to be free of errors... however i seem to experiense a whole lot of error, more than i had expected... sometimes it wont come back from sleep, it only turns on the backlight of the hardware buttons. then i have to kill it by removing the battery. also sometimes it wont establish connection to the net, then i have to turn off the radio and turn it on again. the phone is 7 days old, and i have had the battery out 20 times allready... is this unusual? should i contact htc? and what are your experiences with their support?
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I would recommend a hard reset and not installing any software or doing any "tweaks" and test that for a bit.
You should find that fully functioning and stable (on 1.66 ROM) from there add the software that you need and see how that goes and don't bother doing the treaks, registry hacks unless
a) you know what your actually doing and what it changes and​b) you actually need the change.​

ok, I'll try that is the new ROM from htc that unstable?

as above.... test it with just the 1.66 rom, nothing added, and if it's still unstable get it replaced under warranty.

1.66 ROM is also unstable...
..or if I may refraise: Using ROM 1.66 is no guarantee for stability. My HD2 crashes or locks often when I use the phone functionality. No program or app have made the phone crash. I have tried to monitor what apps are running but I´ve not been able to conclude anything. Hard reset has been done followed by a backup restore.
Now I am uninstalling programs each at a time to see if this improves.

dont restore your backup, there could well be something in your backup causing a problem.
(depending on what you have backed up)
hard reset, or ideally task 29 and reflash then just use it as it is.....
use ms myphone to backup your contacts and sms if you need to.

TouchFLO 3D home screen freezes

Sometimes I just hate my phone. I have an AT&T HTC Pure. I haven't done any modifications to the ROM or anything, just installing a few apps. Today my phone turned itself off due to low battery, so I put it on the charger for a couple hours. When I needed it again I turned it on and the HTC TouchFLO 3D loaded, showing my background and the big ugly clock along with my appointments. I noticed after a few minutes the time was off by... a few minutes. The screen had completely frozen. I couldn't use the slider at all. There goes my People, Music, Calendar, Weather, and Programs tabs I use all the time. I soft reset and it comes back, looking normal. I go to use the slider and it freezes in mid-motion... never to move again. I press the Start button and my Start menu comes up. I close the Start menu and I can still see it, although it doesn't respond and the X is gone from the upper right-hand corner. I tap the Notifications bar and my notifications show up. I click close and it's still up, just not responding to taps (frozen is my guess). I've reset it a multitude of ways now all with the same result... even taking out the battery.
I don't get this. It was working fine just a short while ago. I've reset the thing before and not had this problem. I haven't installed any apps since the last time I had to turn it off due to low battery, and it came up fine from that. What could be causing this?
The real thing is this has happened before. It's like if it ever has to reload the TouchFLO interface it just bombs 1 out of 20 times. Hell I was playing around with Android for the thing, which resets the phone when you want to go back into Windows, and not had this problem the whole time I was testing it. If my phone shuts down, roll the dice and I might get lucky enough for it to come back without this problem.
I resolved it before by doing a hard reset. Lost all my stuff. That sucks for what seems no good reason at all. It's not like I was modifying system files or screwing with registry settings. It isn't even a custom ROM.
Any insight on what could be causing this, and how to get it back to normal?
I'm regretting not buying an Android phone every day anyway, but thanks to 2yr service agreements and lack of sufficient disposable income to dump AT&T I'm stuck with this thing for a while.
Thanks in advance for any help and understanding!

Your issue is that you are on the stock ROM.
That's why XDA exists, because stock ROMs are full of bloatware, eating up memory, and lacking any performance tweaks.
Cooked ROMs are not a cause of issues but a solution.
I hated my phone out of the box, but now it rocks...
With that, if you are going to stay stock, I suggest you get a backup program and hard reset.

At this point I'm very interested in custom ROMs, yet I know little about them. Looks like its time to get on it and read up what I can.

reptiletim said:
At this point I'm very interested in custom ROMs, yet I know little about them. Looks like its time to get on it and read up what I can.
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Start with the Hard SPL thread. A link is located in the 2nd sticky.
This is the precursor to flashing a custom ROM.
Once successful, you can cruise the ROM forum for the ROM of your liking.

It's things like this that make me so glad I found this site

You can try installing "CleanRAM" and running it after every initial boot to clear excess memory. You can also configure CleanRAM to schedule your memory cleaning. I recommend you to use "Level 2" cleaning though.

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You can try installing "CleanRAM" and running it after every initial boot to clear excess memory. You can also configure CleanRAM to schedule your memory cleaning. I recommend you to use "Level 2" cleaning though.
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Unfortunately CleanRAM does absolutely nothing. When TouchFLO 3D re-loads it lasts almost literally 2 seconds before freezing at whatever I'm doing. I've even used the customized process cleaner to stop as many processes as I could (or just manila.exe) and it still will freeze when the interface comes up.
I've been able to get it to the standard Windows Default look and it works now, so that will enable me to back up what I'm going to. If I'm going to have to do a hard reset anyway, might as well put something better on there.

Maybe this might help
i experianced the same problem and the cause was i sync my entire e-mail acc. on the pure and it ran ok untill i restarted it and it boom hanged.
So i cleaned up the entire messaging folder under \Windows\
At restarted it and it was fine
So i suggest dont sync up entire e-mail in any form i.e headers only etc.
If this helps do P.M me

I installed a custom rom from dutty, and now it completely dies while in standby, have to remove the battery to boot it up again. Looks like I traded one critical problem for another.

reptiletim said:
I installed a custom rom from dutty, and now it completely dies while in standby, have to remove the battery to boot it up again. Looks like I traded one critical problem for another.
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Did you hard reset after flashing?
Also, which version of Dutty's did you install?

S4 Constantly lagging

Hello,
I've had my Samsung Galaxy S4 for a number of years, since it came out actually, but I noticed within the last month, the phone has been lagging, A LOT.
The phone lags when I try to unlock it for use. I hit the home or power button and the screen quickly flashes on and goes off. I have to let it stay for a minute before it actually catches up with itself before I can unlock it and use it. Same when I try to lock it. I hit the power button and the screen freezes for a minute, and again, catches up with itself before locks and goes black.
It lags when I'm texting as well. The screen freezes and can't type anything, and again, have to let it stay for a bit before the phone catches up with itself.
Things to note or already tried:
-Factory reset. Issues still remains
-Photos, videos, music are all on the SD card (32gigs, 5gigs left of space)
-Internal memory card has 3.9 gigs of space left.
What could be causing this issue and how can I solve it??
Thanks!

I would suggest completely wiping the phone and internal storage, and then flash your current ROM with Odin.
If the problem persists, try a custom ROM.
I also heard from somebody that Facebook Messenger's chatheads make his phone lag.

Pwnycorn said:
I would suggest completely wiping the phone and internal storage, and then flash your current ROM with Odin.
If the problem persists, try a custom ROM.
I also heard from somebody that Facebook Messenger's chatheads make his phone lag.
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pretty much to echo what @Pwnycorn says
pull SD card for testing;
factory reset and dont install any apps, just setup wizard.
check if lag persists.
install a few apps. does it occur yet? install more, try again, repeat
you'll track it down.

Buff99 said:
pretty much to echo what @Pwnycorn says
pull SD card for testing;
factory reset and dont install any apps, just setup wizard.
check if lag persists.
install a few apps. does it occur yet? install more, try again, repeat
you'll track it down.
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I heard custom ROMs are better and pretty much rid any problems that come with the phone. I just have no idea how to do it, as one tiny mistake and your phone is a brick.
I did turn off all animations. but I noticed since I changed keyboards to the Gboard (Google Keyboard) the phone's lag time has reduced significantly.
Only time it lags is when I switch to the default Messaging app.
Asides that, it works again. Strange how a keyboard can cause all this?

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I heard custom ROMs are better and pretty much rid any problems that come with the phone. I just have no idea how to do it, as one tiny mistake and your phone is a brick.
I did turn off all animations. but I noticed since I changed keyboards to the Gboard (Google Keyboard) the phone's lag time has reduced significantly.
Only time it lags is when I switch to the default Messaging app.
Asides that, it works again. Strange how a keyboard can cause all this?
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It's not necessarily the keyboard, it could be a certain update that went wrong.
And TouchWiz itself is a resource hog, ask anybody and they will tell you the same, except for TouchWiz fanboys.