Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
I have seen some new models of htc but they are a bit expensive here. This one goes for 250€ but i'm afraid it's a bit "old". Please if you can give me your opinion about this issue.
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Yes it is worth it. It still runs all the latest OS etc. I'm glad I bought mine a few months ago. The HD is a good all round performer, and like you say the other devices around that are better/newer are a lot more expensive. When you can get most the features of the HD2 on the HD for half the price, why not buy the HD. That's the way I see it anyways. The price you stated does sound a bit much though, I'm sure you could get it much cheaper on ebay, but this could just be down to the crappy exchange rate here against the Euro.
stuntdouble said:
Yes it is worth it. It still runs all the latest OS etc. I'm glad I bought mine a few months ago. The HD is a good all round performer, and like you say the other devices around that are better/newer are a lot more expensive. When you can get most the features of the HD2 on the HD for half the price, why not buy the HD. That's the way I see it anyways. The price you stated does sound a bit much though, I'm sure you could get it much cheaper on ebay, but this could just be down to the crappy exchange rate here against the Euro.
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Thanks for your reply. Since e-bay is out of the question because many of them don't ship out of their country and i also don't have a pay-pal account it doesn't leave much choise. I have seen the site and i know it's a lot cheaper but still not an option for me. I see that according to users the HD can (almost) do the same as the HD2 and i think i will go for it. Would like to have other opinions though.......
becosemsaida
I purchased my blackstone last week after trading in my hero. The hero was a nice handset, i just didn't think android "was all that". I don't think the functionality of android is great, even 2.1. However i am running a the lastest blackstone henge rom on my device and i think its great.
The internal specification of the blackstone is the same as the hero if i'm correct and the hero is a relatively new device in comparison. Don't get eaten up by the snapdragon ghz band wagon, the touch hd still holds its own and imo is a great alrounder.
What requirements do you have for a handset when you look at buying one?
The HD is pretty good still, but a bit slow, and always was, for that sort of money I'd be inclined to buy a new acer S200 now and get the fastest Wm device available, very similar to the HD and are apparently very easy to flash other roms on to if the acer one is buggy.
Despite my disappointing experience with an F900, I would still be prepared to give them another try, I've had bad experiences with HTC and HP branded HTC's also.
Yes, HD is still front runner, specially if you find cooked ROM which has what you like.
And there's plenty of cooked ROMs, and more than half of them are still developing...
Price of 250 € is nice one, if device is really good preserved.
becosemsaida said:
Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
becosemsaida
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I can't comment on the price but I just bought one (t8285) on Ebay for 450 US precisely for the reason that a) I've never had one and didn't like the bulk of the Rhodium and b) there's an EnergyRom for it
The Telstra versions are rare in the US but work on the 850 range which is ATT's 3g band. I wanted to see if I could live without a keyboard and didn't want to pony up the big bucks to get an HD2 for Telstra until I signed off on the soft keyboard.
If you can afford it and find one you like I don't think you can go wrong. It's not the latest and greatest but it is a strong contender.
Bodisson said:
Yes, HD is still front runner, specially if you find cooked ROM which has what you like.
And there's plenty of cooked ROMs, and more than half of them are still developing...
Price of 250 € is nice one, if device is really good preserved.
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i agree with this !! this is my second hd i was planning to move over to the hd2 but i was way to big for what needed so i go one with the hd2 engery rom... as its just Ace...
The only bad part of it is Microsoft abandoning WM
Yes, I've seen some used ones in Ebay for $200 - $250. The Touch HD has everything (big screen, WiFi, GPS, FM radio, G-sensor, 5 mpix camera). It's a lot of hardware for that price.
Of course it runs Windows Mobile, which is dying right now. Sooner or later you'll have to move to Windows Phone 7 (vade retro) / iPhone / Android.
Any app you use (or God forbid, purchase) for Windows Mobile will not be transferable to any other phone in the future. Ask the developers if they will port the app and to what platforms.
You have a very good WM 6.1 ROM from KWBR, and a lot of WM 6.5 ROMs. I've used a few of them and am currently running a WM 6.5 with Manilla 2.5 and Opera 10.
becosemsaida said:
Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
I have seen some new models of htc but they are a bit expensive here. This one goes for 250€ but i'm afraid it's a bit "old". Please if you can give me your opinion about this issue.
Back from............the end of the world.
becosemsaida
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Why dont get the mini HD?? it's about that price too?? got similar specs, in fact improved, and I think capacitive screen too?
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Hi all,
I've been posting in a couple of other furms about a phone for my GF (I'm currently running a touch HD, - previously a TP, a dimaond, and an Orbit)
I've pretty much settled on the touch 3G for her, but the lack of posts about this phone worries me a little. Is it not a popular phone? it seems to do everything you could ask of a phone (touchscreen, built in GPS, camera) and she likes the size etc.
why does it not seem so popular?
thanks
Hi
I think that the problem of the jade is the small dimension,that in this moment the people don't like.
The people like a "big" dimension (Hd and iphone stile).
It is the best PDA phone I have ever had. (With a new LITE ROM )
I think that it is not so popular because people who would like it bought Diamond or another nice PDA phone just a few months ago. They do not need the new one, especially when it has the same "power" .
I upgraded from Artemis, so the change was worth for me.
I think Jade is mid-entry PDA and it have nothing special e.g. big sceen, good camera, hi quality sound
So people may pick the cheaper one or the rich feature one.
But I really love my Jade, it very suit to me.
I love my Jade too
I have no regret in buying this phone, and after almost 3 months of owning one, still busy customizing my Jade.
I thing that there are not many posts, because in PPC forums discuss usually people whose understand to PocketPCs. Those people usually buy something better than Jade. Touch 3G is really mainstream. It's for everyone.
And maybe it's so good that it hasn't so many problems which than couldn't be discused on forums
I have one for about 3 weeks and I'm really satisfied with it. For it's price it's really good (I'm student so I haven't money on something like Touch HD)
It's simple: The HTC Touch 3G is _not_ being sold in the USA.
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Hi all,
I've been posting in a couple of other furms about a phone for my GF (I'm currently running a touch HD, - previously a TP, a dimaond, and an Orbit)
I've pretty much settled on the touch 3G for her, but the lack of posts about this phone worries me a little. Is it not a popular phone? it seems to do everything you could ask of a phone (touchscreen, built in GPS, camera) and she likes the size etc. why does it not seem so popular? thanks
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Just buy it for her. She'll love it. This is the most VFM pda phone on the market... and the most cute looking.
I'm also having one and I'm absolutely happy with it. What was attracting me was the small size, the design but still having all the nice features...
well, it's here!!
I will spend sometime setting it up for her and installing all the apps I put on the Orbit for her, it actually looks pretty good. Small and need with a decent screen so hopefully she'll love it.
Trying to find a pink skin for it at the mo. Skinit.com have great features and allow you to design your own skin, but they don't support the touch 3G.
Might have to stick with a silicone case for her, not quite as nice but should do the trick.
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Trying to find a pink skin for it at the mo. Skinit.com have great features and allow you to design your own skin, but they don't support the touch 3G.
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There are at least 2 pink skins...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451702
Congratulations on making the right decision! Please tell here to enjoy it! It's a great phone! Cheers!
sorry, when I said Skin, I meant a case...
a bit like www.skinit.com, but they don't do the 3G model
I think the main drawback of touch 3G when compared with touch HD is HD has a built-in G sensor, this makes HD can compete with iPhone.
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why does it not seem so popular?
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I am not sure, WinMo is something that doesn't appeal to everyone, most people prefer the likes of Nokia or the iPhone. MinMo is more attractive for geeks/people that need office on the move, and a lot of that audience will be attracted by the more powerful larger devices.
For me however I don't want to be carrying around a brick, the 3G is small, unobtrusive and does as much as I need as any WinMo device does.
If you could have your money back, would you take it? Or would you keep your HD?
I'm considering a purchase.
Thanks!
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Sorry for being unclear. The last Poll choice should read, "No way I would give it back. I couldn't be happier"
No doubt, the Touch HD is the best phone I've ever had! Nothing else on the market compares (in my opinion). The design, the features and the performance all kick a$$!
Thanks Derrick. I'm especially glad to hear that from someone in the States, given that I'd be buying an imported, unlocked version.
Tref said:
Thanks Derrick. I'm especially glad to hear that from someone in the States, given that I'd be buying an imported, unlocked version.
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i think its ok... i'm about to post mine forsale so i guess i'd fall into the "get my money back" catagory.
After comparing to the iPhone and other Nokia phones on the market, i took a chance at the HD, i wanted it mainly because of the WinMo but in return you get so much more.
It is a beautifully built phone that most other phones aren't capable of doing (iPhone is one example)
My brother has the Samsung Omnia and the difference is phenomenal. If i was a person starting with the Omnia then i would not like WinMo, but that's until i modified every single aspect for him to have a much more beautiful aesthetically looking UI. The HD trumps the Omnia mainly due to the resolution but that's the beauty of WinMo, you can change looks whenever you want and still retain the great WinMo guts.
Get the HD, you won't be disappointed.
I am looking forward to a new one already. I love to tweak the HD, but it still not as fluent as I hope it would be. Next one will have an nvidia tegra chip, looking forward to smooth multitasking already, kinda sick and tired of the qualcomm in my HD.
I will probably ask for my money in a year or so
I'm happy with mine but there are still things I don't like:
1- WiFi reception is worse than my last ppc (eten M700)
2- Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) totaly screwed, instead of the old good way the stupid device opens the crappy media player from windows mobile whenever I press the keys on my stereo bluetooth device, I want to use my own player to listen to music, until now no player solved this problem 100%, waiting for a solution.
3- Can't use the TouchFlo, it's pretty but I prefer the windows mobile today screen and the second today, got all things I need without wasting ram, just want a usefull TouchFlo.
I think the Toshiba tg01 will give the Touch HD a run for its money, but as things currently stand, the HD the best wm device on the market, even despite its lack of physical keyboard.
Off course though the appeal of the tg01 will depend greatly on where you're located, as again, it only appears to work on EU 3g bands
damned carriers!!!
I've been debating changing my t8282 for a t8285 or if my money would be better spent waiting on the tg01 or getting the Pre...though the drop in resolution is sure to hurt...oh decisions, decisions...
I'd keep the phone, am very happy with it so far!
Unfortunately mine has started to have a problem with reception - like ALOT of people on here. As such I've sent it back. If I hadn't had that issue - I'd be more than happy!
@ Tref, what network are you on? If you're on ATT, your best bet is to go with the t8285, make sure to check.
I didn't even know there was a t8285 until after i bought my t8282
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@ Tref, what network are you on? If you're on ATT, your best bet is to go with the t8285, make sure to check.
I didn't even know there was a t8285 until after i bought my t8282
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I'm on AT&T. Thanks for the tip Doc. I hope my vendor has the 8285.
I'm on ATT and have had no problems with reception or EDGE network. It was the best phone out there when I bought it last year and it's still the best phone out there in my opinion. The only upcoming phone I might possibly consider waiting for is the touch pro 2 and that's only if you want a physical keyboard...if not, I'd get the 8285 Telstra Blackstone so you can have 3G on ATT.
Probably keeping my Touch HD until my contract runs out in about 6 months and then going for Omnia HD.
I like Symbian for the ease of use.
I like WM for the endless customisation.
I will never move to Apple!
Very happy with my HD 6 months on and regular reviews of the market place suggest that there is nothing out there to beat it.
I just want to say i will.
Because It costs me $1200 AUD to buy it
I want $1200 back and spend $850 to buy a new HD.
I will give it back, video playing is a big dissapointment, wifi is weak, and the sound quality is worse than all my former pda's
Taking photo's really suk on this thing.
This deffo will be my last HTC.
It is that XDA improves the standard htc's otherwise it was already be gone.
With standard ROM, it sucks. Even the new updated ROM is not what I expected.
With cooked ROM, I have to say that I love it. Smooth, fast, more user-friendly etc.
Camera could have been better, fast videodriver should have been included -- but compared to other WinMo-based units, the HD rox!
So, all-in-all :: thank you all cookers/developers out there, you saved my HD!
yeah, i have to say that too.
The audio and camera functions are disappointed me too.
I dont listen music and take pic with hd.
I do them by using my n95 8g.
That's really much better than hd.
But for me, hd is still my best 1st fav.
i love it, i think i wont change new phone for at least 2-3 years from now.
Guys,
I appreciate, "you are doing wonderful job here".
I am planning to buy HTC HD2. But I am confused why i should buy it rather than an iphone. What are the benefits? As even we are not sure whether HTC would provide upgrade to Windows mobile 7 for this device.
I have been using HTC tytnII for last 2 years so I am familiar with windows OS. only issue is these OS are not upgradable. Like apple keep on issue OS upgrade for iphone users.
Isn't it bit problematic to have such a big screen without stylus?
From where can i get cheapest HD2 in UK?
Please guide me in right direction.
Thanks,
If there is nothing you would miss on iPhone, then I would not hesitate.
I would miss many things though.
Get the HD2 & have the support of XDA at the same time! If you read the threads in this Leo section, then it's a no brainer! Good luck.
pda_crazy said:
Isn't it bit problematic to have such a big screen without stylus?
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It's less problematic than a smaller screen without a stylus (such as the iPhone).
Replacing HD with HD2?
I would like to hear from the experience of Previous HD(1) owners who had migrated to HD2. Is it really worth it? is it a major or a minor step ahead?
I'm asking that because currently I have no issue with my HD (WM 6.1), it is a very responsive PDA which serves most of my needs (phone, mail, messaging, web, video, slingplayer,fring, etc.)
Thanks
zolom said:
I would like to hear from the experience of Previous HD(1) owners who had migrated to HD2. Is it really worth it? is it a major or a minor step ahead?
I'm asking that because currently I have no issue with my HD (WM 6.1), it is a very responsive PDA which serves most of my needs (phone, mail, messaging, web, video, slingplayer,fring, etc.)
Thanks
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I have both and have been trying to decide the same thing for the last few days. My test was to use the HD2 for 24h, and then go back to the HD1.
I listed my HD1 on eBay this morning... #1 deciding factor? Capacitive. Closely followed by speed.
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I listed my HD1 on eBay this morning... #1 deciding factor? Capacitive. Closely followed by speed.
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I totally agree. The screen itself is worth upgrading from the HD to the HD2! The speed is a welcome improvement, and the whole UI just seems a lot more rounded than previous versions.
I know a fair few people moan about HTC, and a lot of those moans are valid, but in my opinion they've really improved on the HD, as if that was almost a test for the HD2 which is the real thing.
Not knocking the HD - don't get me wrong. I loved that phone, but it's going in the post today, after selling it on eBay the other day.
I can't see myself wanting to upgrade this phone for a looooooooooooong time!
Do you know when Microsoft is gonna lauch windows Mobile 7?
pda_crazy said:
Do you know when Microsoft is gonna lauch windows Mobile 7?
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Reports vary from Q1 2010 to Q4 2010. The only consistency so far is 2010, so I wouldn't hold your breath for it.
Hehe, we are in the same shoes Next Monday I'm going to get a HD2, distributed in Vietnam. Although there are some problems being complained everywhere, but it's no doubt one of the hottest device this quarter. Let try and experience!
i've got a hd1, and thinking of upgrading to hd2
but my hd1 on uk orange is rubbish, and is a total pain.
i've discovered that orange has tweeked the rom so much it's not good.
so my question is, does UK Vodafone alter the rom, and is it supported by HTC unlike the orange hd?
pda_crazy said:
Guys,
I appreciate, "you are doing wonderful job here".
I am planning to buy HTC HD2. But I am confused why i should buy it rather than an iphone. What are the benefits? As even we are not sure whether HTC would provide upgrade to Windows mobile 7 for this device.
I have been using HTC tytnII for last 2 years so I am familiar with windows OS. only issue is these OS are not upgradable. Like apple keep on issue OS upgrade for iphone users.
Isn't it bit problematic to have such a big screen without stylus?
From where can i get cheapest HD2 in UK?
Please guide me in right direction.
Thanks,
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I kind of have a similar question. I'm kind of on the brink of switching to the HD2 from my magic 32b. Basically the hardware specs make the HD2 a beast. I like android and have rooted my phone and am pretty much getting all I can out of it. I'm wondering if it's worth the switch to WinMo? I could really careless either way on the OS. I'm not really a fanboy of one or the other. If I do buy an HD2 I will load a custom ROM. What are the advantages of this? (I know there are many for Android Devices.) I just want to make an informed decision.
Thanks for all your help guys.
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Hehe, we are in the same shoes Next Monday I'm going to get a HD2, distributed in Vietnam. Although there are some problems being complained everywhere, but it's no doubt one of the hottest device this quarter. Let try and experience!
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lol count me in
i'm replacing my old E90 communicator with an HD2 and boy it looks promising. There is the emminent audio sync issue though when playing back videos.
hackm0d said:
lol count me in
i'm replacing my old E90 communicator with an HD2 and boy it looks promising. There is the emminent audio sync issue though when playing back videos.
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I made the switch from the E90 also (with a brief X1 stint in between) so if you have any comparison niggles, pm me.
Yes....I have already read the article (and several discussions from this forum) that WM7 will not be upgradable for the HD2 and guess what....
I will get the HD2 when it come out from T-mobile this month or next month.
Why buy the new phone with WM7 when I already have so many applications/games for the WM6? If I wait for the new WM7, there won't be any good applications for awhile. What good will that do for me?
So who in the USA with T-mobile is still going to buy the HD2 from T-mobile even if it will not be upgradable to WM7?
i think im buying it too.. it depends if the htc desire comes to tmobile usa or not.. buy i really like the hd2 and i think im getting it on march
i already have it with t mobile usa , and i don't really care much for wm7, and besides that's why we have some of the best developers in xda, somebody will copy the wm7 rom and come up with one for us hd2 guys LOL.
I'm still on board for the HD2. And as the previous poster mentioned, I'm not in love with WP7S anyway. I didn't want to upgrade after what I saw at MWC.
I am not with T-Mo but if the price is right I will be for a no contract stint with the HD2. If the price is 100 - 200 short of the Telstra version I will probably keep ATT and import it.
I like WM7, but dont care about it as its not here and I need a nice new phone.
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I am not with T-Mo but if the price is right I will be for a no contract stint with the HD2. If the price is 100 - 200 short of the Telstra version I will probably keep ATT and import it.
I like WM7, but dont care about it as its not here and I need a nice new phone.
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It's supposed to be $450/no-contract, $200/contract from US T-Mobile. If that good enough?
Do you need a T-mobile service to purchase the phone? Will you be able to unlock the HD2 from T-mobile?
I definitely still will. It's a great phone and at $200 subsidized it's an even better phone.
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It's supposed to be $450/no-contract, $200/contract from US T-Mobile. If that good enough?
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That would be € 332,72 .... Lucky american b*sterds They might as well throw in a 32 Gb MicroSD card and it will still be cheaper than the european version.
Completely agree!!
everyone who has seen preview of Winmo7 in MWC Barcelona, youtube etc,
its just about the most bland UI, one can ever see
I think that they must give us 6.5.3/5 version, because it will be perfect choice for HD2. Excellent hardware + new finger friendly OS = bingo. Best performance and autonomy for us users, and then we dont need any WM 7 or similar toys...
cheers
Smartmob said:
I think that they must give us 6.5.3/5 version, because it will be perfect choice for HD2. Excellent hardware + new finger friendly OS = bingo. Best performance and autonomy for us users, and then we dont need any WM 7 or similar toys...
cheers
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Yep and a updated Sense with some new features, so we can wear our phones with pride. So if anybody comes along with a WP phone we can say ... yeah alright, but we have a phone with 5 buttons that is powered by HTC Sense. And then we show them our battery covers .... and wish them a nice day.
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Yep and a updated Sense with some new features, so we can wear our phones with pride. So if anybody comes along with a WP phone we can say ... yeah alright, but we have a phone with 5 buttons that is powered by HTC Sense. And then we show them our battery covers .... and wish them a nice day.
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hehehe, exactly
Hi!
I totally agree with the others in this thread. I just bought the HD2 knowing that there will not be a WM7 upgrade, at least not official. There will most likely take a while before we see any interesting apps for WM7 anyway, and by that time (maybe in a couple of years from now), its time to switch phone. For the moment I'm very happy with WM 6.5.x, especially the amount of available software that runs perfectly. The multimedia, communication and web experience of the HD2 are excellent, thanks to outstanding hardware and good value added software like Sense 2.5 and the Opera browser. I guess that the 1st generation of WM7 (OS and devices) will have some bugs and glitches, and I don't plan to be a beta tester for Microsoft.
Regards,
PK
Earthbrain said:
Yes....I have already read the article (and several discussions from this forum) that WM7 will not be upgradable for the HD2 and guess what....
I will get the HD2 when it come out from T-mobile this month or next month.
Why buy the new phone with WM7 when I already have so many applications/games for the WM6? If I wait for the new WM7, there won't be any good applications for awhile. What good will that do for me?
So who in the USA with T-mobile is still going to buy the HD2 from T-mobile even if it will not be upgradable to WM7?
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Please learn me how to find these good applications and games. I have been on the HD2 since December and have not found so many. Bejeweled 2 and Teeter are the only 2 games of good quality. The Marketplace is dead, so really tell me where all those apps and games are!
I really do hope you will answer me, this is not a flame. IMO the problem of the HD2 is the lack of apps and games, but whatever.
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Please learn me how to find these good applications and games. I have been on the HD2 since December and have not found so many. Bejeweled 2 and Teeter are the only 2 games of good quality. The Marketplace is dead, so really tell me where all those apps and games are!
I really do hope you will answer me, this is not a flame. IMO the problem of the HD2 is the lack of apps and games, but whatever.
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Yes , but when WP7 arrives the 6.5 will be dead? Will Developers be kind enough to create apps for 6.5? Most of them will create for 7 ... Thats a shame for me..
jigners said:
Completely agree!!
everyone who has seen preview of Winmo7 in MWC Barcelona, youtube etc,
its just about the most bland UI, one can ever see
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you say this because you are trying to forget that your new arrival hd2 will not get the upgrade not because you don't like wp7 series (welcome to hd2 forum)
im still getting it as well. those who think win7 wont be on the HD2 havent been around xda very long
i should have waited, to trade my nexus one for a us version =( i got a uk version coming in the mail.
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Please learn me how to find these good applications and games.
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Well, search these forums for Xtrakt and Experiment13. Then Google for the demo of Electopia. Then search this and the HD2 applications forum for the word "game" or "games" and you'll find plenty.
does it worth it ?
you guys sujest me to buy this phone or get iphone?!
i really dont know to pay alot.
looking some good phone in max 250 $
so this phone is good ? the diamons 2 = sensitivty of iphone ?
what should i buy?
any 1 ? 40 views no one replay.
the diamond 2 is good phone ? right now i have the kaiser
but i wonder which is better
wm with diamond 2 or some magic or hero with android
I would get a 1gb android phone before I would but the TD2, but it is still a great phone, especially compared to the Kaiser.
TD2 is a good phone, but has issues with the earpiece (appears that it breaks easily) and in general, HTC touchscreens dont seem to be of a very good quality (-> Newton rings).
I think I would buy a Samsung Wave S8500 (because of the amoled display), if not, definitely an adroid device.
Go for the iphone!!! all of the reasons that i didnt buy one have been changed/fixed by apple and im ready to switch. Ill sell you my perfectly good but slightly used TD2 for 100.00. if you dont want the iphone, but ill tell you now, if you want to stay with the at$t rom it sucks, and as soon as you start flashing other roms, you might as well resign yourself to the fact that your gonna be dealing with lock ups, and constant reboots every day, if you use it alot. ITS NOT THE FAULT OF THE FABULOUS CHEFS THAT WE HAVE HERE, its the slow processor and the crappy hardware. So choose wisely, if you only want to spend 180 on 1+ year old technology (and thats ancient by todays standards) dont expect much. I was sorry that i spent the money to upgrade my Kaiser to the TD2, other than size, there wasnt much upgrade about it.
Hope that helps
Alan
I had a Kaiser and now have a TD2. Like the others have said. Its a good phone. (if you turn off the HTC UI) the battery lasts a little longer and the phone is more responsive.
Im about to upgrade will be probably getting a HTC Desire or HTC Desire HD
I have a TD2, picked it up new for about $150. Very good for the money, loaded Energy WM6.5 ROM with sense2.1 & it runs perfect & is quite fast in most tasks.
With the button mapping driver and a few other good tweeks it is a really easy device to use.
If you are experienced with tweaking HTC/WM devices then this can be a very capable device & a bargain if you hunt around for a clearance deal.
Most other options will be a lot more expensive but a TD2 is not a bad buy for the right money
hey guys thanks all for the answer well the iphone is more expancive
for 100-200 $ i think diamond 2 will be good replace to my kaiser even if its windows mobile
and i am pracitce in upgrade roms all the time
kaiser need good room to fucntion .
i love my phone but he have some bugs and work slowly i think the diamond 2 will be good replace
even tho i dont need the keyboard of kaiser. never used it ;P
its great phone but heavy and not nice to go with him on the streets
i wonder which phone is better. iphone diaond 2 htc hero and which has the best sensitiviy
my sister has a milestone and trust me the milestone is fantastic with the androaid program.
but i love htc so much cant get out from it
dont know about the hero, but my new iphone 4 is way more responsive, and speedy than my TD2. Good luck with your new phone!
VonH
thanks lool but the iphone 4 is much more expensive than every other htc
btw if you tell me that i can buy diamond 2 in 100$ i buy it now