Dunno if anyone else feels this way too but I can't help feeling that only N1 owners should get the latest and greatest updates since we're the ones carrying the flagship device torch...
It's like buying a Toyota Prius for $23,000 and then Toyota coming out with a hybrid kit for any car for free which seems to cheapen the N1 experience...
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Dunno if anyone else feels this way too but I can't help feeling that only N1 owners should get the latest and greatest updates since we're the ones carrying the flagship device torch...
It's like buying a Toyota Prius for $23,000 and then Toyota coming out with a hybrid kit for any car for free which seems to cheapen the N1 experience...
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Kinda goes against the whole idea of open source.
Onwards and upwards I say, Android moves forward at a fast pace because it can, not because it has to.
Yes, it's very selfish.
What are you, 12 years old?
EVERY Android device should be on 2.1 by now. I feel bad for those who aren't.
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What are you, 12 years old?
EVERY Android device should be on 2.1 by now. I feel bad for those who aren't.
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What are you, 12 years old?
EVERY Android device should be on 2.1 by now. I feel bad for those who aren't.
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Hey it's not Google's fault.
It's the lazy ass manufacturers who aren't willing to put in the work to upgrade.
The source code for 2.1 has been on the web for months now. Absolutely no one to blame but the lazy ass manufacturers.
You shouldn't be allowed to touch the android market...most of the apps there the author wrote with a G1 (1.6) or Droid (2.0) in mind...Those devices your being selfish about getting a upgrade on are the ones that helped give you 30,000 apps...Devs aren't flocking to the android market because of the horrible 20,000 first week sales of the N1
This makes no sense. What happens when a new phone comes out, all the n1 owners should feel obliged to wait for updates then?
stuff Eclair, I want Froyo! and Gingerbread!
Oh comon guys!
N1 owners are way more important than any random Hero, G1, or Droid customers.
We are the ones that carry Google's flagship device and should be treated accordingly... compared to the other random devices that just have android on it and aren't really Google devices.
I love how the phone is being compared to a Toyota Prius. Good analogy.
Even if all the other android devices get 2.1, its not as if they will all be able to utilize everything unless they have a 1GHz processor - though, while new Android phones are coming out with that constantly, you will have to just deal with everything that is going on in the Android world..
I also believe this thread is kinda weird, honestly I don't see why you would care at all what other Android devices have. You cannot stop progression.
I am perfectly OK with all android devices being upgraded to 2.1 BUT Right after nexus one has been upgraded to android 3.0.
With less Android 2.1 owners, our version of Android will get less attention from devs
We still have top hardware.
Also, the more standardised android is, the more attractive it will be to developers. The more people on 2.1 the better it is for all of us.
Most of the phones will probably be updated to a certain point, but they will first get the updates a long time after we have got it i think, the hardware manufactures and carriers, have to make a profit on their phones, and therefore they cant afford to keep updating them.
As google are responsible for our updates we are in a bit better situation i think, as i dont think that google intention with the nexus one was to make a **** load of money, they wants to show what android is capable of, and i think that the nexus one is the only phone you will get that "real android experince" with.
I choosed the nexus one because of this, so that i could have the newest version of android and not be stuck on 1.5 or something like that.
nevermind....LoL
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Most of the phones will probably be updated to a certain point, but they will first get the updates a long time after we have got it i think, the hardware manufactures and carriers, have to make a profit on their phones, and therefore they cant afford to keep updating them.
As google are responsible for our updates we are in a bit better situation i think, as i dont think that google intention with the nexus one was to make a **** load of money, they wants to show what android is capable of, and i think that the nexus one is the only phone you will get that "real android experince" with.
I choosed the nexus one because of this, so that i could have the newest version of android and not be stuck on 1.5 or something like that.
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hardware evolves. Even if the G1 gets Android 2.1, it doesn't have the processing power for Live Wallpapers, Google Earth, etc.
Device manufacturers don't lose out on sales by continuing to support existing devices. If that were the case, you'd never see updated drivers for your pc's graphics card, etc.. Device manufacturers know that people will prefer to buy devices that they believe will get updates.
This is going to sound harsh, but I think all phones (hardware wise) should be left behind, and the N1 should be made the lowest spec. This would make it easier for programmers and devs to make more powerful apps or games, so they don't have to cut back just so a G1 can play it (so the N1 owners miss out)
This would mean Android would Rival the Windows Phone 7 Series (anyone else think that's a stupid name?)
The problem is, Google make money from the advertisements, so they don't really care, they just want to win to make money, so diversification is better for them.
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There was something off about the iPhone to me back in 2007 when everyone first heard of the thing...prior to that I had a hard time adjusting to the apple experience, and being that I don't listen to music iPods and iTunes NEVER interested me. I do not like the way OS X is set up (seriously, finder bar? give me a menu in every window) but I did like the unification of the OS...anyways...the iPhone was cool, I liked it. It definitely was a game changer, no one will deny that. But this phone and it's sea of icons did not interest me...it was fun to look at, but just as with the finder bar, this sea of icons turned me off to the whole deal.
Anyways, I begin hearing whispers of an OS from Google...early screenshots leak (underwhelmed with the BB OS looking thing) then screenshots of the updated version begin to leak and what can I say...this thing was hideous...the icons, everything...just ugly...but I jumped in anyways...contract was up, I needed a new phone, and I liked everything else I read about it and I liked the desktop like feel of Android OS (that i inferred from images at least, as I hadn't touch the OS yet) anyways...October 20th, 2008...my phone arrives in the mail..I turn it on, I set it up...and I like it...not as polished as I would've hoped...but it was what it was.
Android still felt like a beta product (which carries to this day though to less an extent) but I managed despite my gripes with the phone...the market was immature, the OS was immature, MMS didn't work right, web was slow, browser was ugly, hell, the entire UI was what I would call ugly, but it was functional, and customizable as hell...at this point I didn't update but soon Jesusfreke released his rooted builds....and yea...the fun started then...I was no longer tied to T-mobile's release schedule...I had JFs 1.5, 1.6, tried hero, Eclair...then I heard of this Nexus One thingamajig...and I had to have it...So I had a plan.
I through sheer luck managed to acquire a seat at Google's Android Developers Lab in NYC for February 12th...at this point the Nexus had been out for a while, but me, knowing Google, KNEW I'd be getting a free phone...and I did.....a Motorola Droid...I must admit, I assumed the phone ugly...but damn was this thing sexy in hand...right heft, great display, speedy, HORRIBLE KEYBOARD, but Android 2.0 proved itself to be the OS Android should've been from the start...so I enjoyed my Droid for a week, rooted it, skinned it, etc...then put it back to stock sold it for 400 and used an additional 166.03 to buy the Nexus One...
and yea...Android after 1.5 years...is finally where it should be, and it can only go up. I still have my gripes with market Devs and their horrible understanding of UI and UX and even Icons....but for the most part, having been there since day 1 I am proud of where Android is heading...No where to go but up...
- Rant courtesy of Tristan C. aka Absolute Designz.
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Sorry, couldn't resist =) I agree though, it's been what.. 2 years or so, and we have an OS that's ready to beat the crap out of the market leader, Apple.
Imagine what will it be in 2 more years. People won't even remember that Apple made phones.
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Sorry, couldn't resist =) I agree though, it's been what.. 2 years or so, and we have an OS that's ready to beat the crap out of the market leader, Apple.
Imagine what will it be in 2 more years. People won't even remember that Apple made phones.
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http://media.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/image/lolcat-boring-story.jpg
Sorry, couldn't resist =) I agree though, it's been what.. 2 years or so, and we have an OS that's ready to beat the crap out of the market leader, Apple.
Imagine what will it be in 2 more years. People won't even remember that Apple made phones.
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Sure they will, they'll be all "Finally a well designed phone running Halo Halo.
Damn,a lot of nostalgia posts like this lately.perhaps we're all itching for the nexus 2.
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I agree.
I got a T-Mobile G1 first day it came out, then a year later, got the MyTouch3G and had it for a month and returned it. Got pissed cuz the hardware was way underpowered. (Cupcake was the latest firmware back then).
I switched to the iPhone 3GS had it for 10 months. Jailbroken, hacked to hell, and you know what? It was great to use. Apps was a pleasure to use, games were awesome. I then got bored with it (as I do with EVERYTHING), and decided to try out the Nexus One with 2.1, hoping Android OS matured A LOT from Cupcake.
Well it did a bit, but still lacking in a lot of things. Currently on my Nexus One FRF91 firmware and yeah, having to deal with bugs and what not, it's painful. And the apps, gawd, it's horrible still .
Anyways I'm sticking with it, cuz I'm too broke to buy a new phone and pray each day Google improves Android little by little.
I started with windows way back when I was parting out my Civic SI and traded some dc racing headers for the Cingular 8125. I was like "wow this is so much cooler than my razr!" ..especially when I discovered tethering. But a 13,000 dollar cell bill later and I learned my lesson with that. Anyway.. I got fed up with WM while using the Kaiser and started researching Android. I purchased the N1 a week after it came out and haven't looked back. Gave my gf the ATT Tilt 2. She hates my Nexus One since her fingernails wont work with the touch screen, lmao.
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... and yea...Android after 1.5 years...is finally where it should be, and it can only go up. I still have my gripes with market Devs and their horrible understanding of UI and UX and even Icons....but for the most part, having been there since day 1 I am proud of where Android is heading...No where to go but up...
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UP UP UP!
True that bro!
My love started back when I bought my G1 in Ocrober 2008.
I've known then, what I know now - just with more certainty.
I know that Google and Android™ are fukken phenomenal. Apple and Microsoft are shiet. And all my future phones, and the phones of my family, will be Android™ based (as will be our microwaves, refigerators, televisions, ebooks, etc )
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...Imagine what will it be in 2 more years. People won't even remember that Apple made phones.
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They'll be like, "dewd, we're talking about phones here, m'kay? not produce!" LMAO
nxt said:
I agree.
I got a T-Mobile G1 first day it came out ... I then got bored with it (as I do with EVERYTHING)
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I got bored with all my phones.
I've been hacking/modding my phones since I had my first HTC smartphone (Audiovox SMT5600).
The G1 & N1, are the only phones that I am NOT bored with.
There's always something NEW to tinker with: a ROM, kernel, build.prop, theme, some new amazing app that, etc.
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I started with windows way back when ... But a 13,000 dollar cell bill later
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$13,000?
WTF?
Got my G1 on 02/09, leaving SE scene i wasnt sure what i was getting into, but fell in love with OS and its simplicity...android user for life
Is it possible to put iOS4 on the evo and have a dualboot one for Android and the other for iOS4
No iOS is not open source
Thanks anyways
now why would you want to kill a perfectly good phone?
really.. spend the money and get an iPhone if that's what u want to do
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I wonder if the Evo would still be able to make calls if you put iOS4 on it
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really.. spend the money and get an iPhone if that's what u want to do
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The iphone is one cheap silicone case away from being very very good hardware. Just buy an iphone (and a cheap case) if you want ios.
why would anyone in their right mind want to poison their evo with apple's software???
No is just good to have different things on a phone
What is it about iOS4 that you can't get on the EVO/Android? My brother has the iPhone4, & there is nothing he has that i couldn't find in the Marketplace.
If you're looking for something specific, i'm sure you can find an Android version of it.
Don't kill the OP
Come on guys, it's a legit question (even if it might seem pretty blasphemous to us). As for the original question, if you want to dual boot, there's potential to put any Open Source OS on just about any hardware. If you want to have a closed source OS (like iOS, WinMo, WebOS, Blackberry OS [oh dear God WHY?!], Mac OSX Leopard, etc...) on your hardware, you'll pretty much have that pre-installed on the device. That's why you can put Android onto the HTC HD2, but you can't put WinMo 6.5 on the EVO 4G.
Bottom line, if you want iOS4 + Android, you'll have to buy an iPhone if you even want a chance. I don't think they have it working yet, but I know they've ported Froyo to the older hardware, so it might just be a matter of time.
Forum reeks of fanboyism. Simple question required a simple answer. The evo is far from a perfect phone... If that was the case.. I wouldn't have to root it and play tricks on my battery just to make it last longer than 5 hours. Android wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't how iOS changed the way we look at smart phones. And apps that aren't on the android? bejeweled 2, angry birds, words with friends, a half decent facebook app, espn score center is terrible on the droid as well... I could go on... Both phones have their flaws.but I can see why the interest in wanting a dual boot phone. more than likely not happening anytime soon if not at all.
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Forum reeks of fanboyism. Simple question required a simple answer. The evo is far from a perfect phone... If that was the case.. I wouldn't have to root it and play tricks on my battery just to make it last longer than 5 hours. Android wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't how iOS changed the way we look at smart phones. And apps that aren't on the android? bejeweled 2, angry birds, words with friends, a half decent facebook app, espn score center is terrible on the droid as well... I could go on... Both phones have their flaws.but I can see why the interest in wanting a dual boot phone. more than likely not happening anytime soon if not at all.
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Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect
Buy an ipod touch
- sent from beneath the earth
verse187 said:
Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect
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right, out of the 85k apps in the market place, absolutely none of them are good for anybody whatsoever, which explains why no one downloads anything from the market anymore, and also explains why android is definitely not catching up to iOS.
verse187 said:
Is it possible to put iOS4 on the evo and have a dualboot one for Android and the other for iOS4
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verse187 said:
Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect
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You know, you don't have to be an Apple fanboy (or girl) to want to see if this can be done. It's like trying to solve a puzzle. I really wouldn't want an iphone, but hacking iOS4 onto an Android phone would be fun. And, there are some apps for the iphone that don't exist in the Android Market.
BTW, I have a Dell Mini 9 that runs Snow Leopard just fine. Am I in love with Apple? Not really, though I have an iMac, as well as Windoze boxes and Linux, too. I'm posting from Linux on my dual boot Aspire One, wirelessly tethered to my Evo. I think I'm gonna try the Ubuntu hack for my Evo next. It's all about choices.
k2snowboards88 said:
The iphone is one cheap silicone case away from being very very good hardware. Just buy an iphone (and a cheap case) if you want ios.
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I wonder if the Evo would still be able to make calls if you put iOS4 on it
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only if held in the left hand.
I wonder if the cameras would still work if you upgraded the Evo to anything other than 2.1, lol.
leaving android behind
Got an upgrade for a phone that I haven't used, and this thing just looks amazing
http://www.phones-online.org/phones...hones/new-htc-touch-hd3-picture-exposure.html
Unfortunately it will run wp7, which tears my heart out that it doesn't have android. Hopefully there will be someone that will root it and be able to install android on it since android is open source.
Pretty much identical to the evo with a better processor, .2 bigger screen, amoled display, 16gb internal storage with 32gb support of sd card, 1gb ram (vs 512mb on evo).
Camera will be probably as ****ty as evo, but it still lacks android. idk how well wp7 will perform but from what i've seen android is a lot better in my mind.
Might wait a few months after it's release to see if it gets rooted and droided to buy it. Even with hardware specs, I don't think I could make a move to wp7 from android.
wow, definitely too bad that's for winmo
Surely a comparable (or better) EVO successor won't be too far off
C'ya sucka!
The hardware is not that much better. The real selling point of any phone now is OS. And Android is a clear winner to me. WM7 or WebOS may be awesome in the future...but it will take time to catch up, especially in apps.
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C'ya sucka!
The hardware is not that much better. The real selling point of any phone now is OS. And Android is a clear winner to me. WM7 or WebOS may be awesome in the future...but it will take time to catch up, especially in apps.
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uhm yes there is. amoled > lcd, up to 48gb of data, 2x amount of ram (meaning more 3d apps, and faster performing phone), and as we know the .3 inch on screen makes a HUGE difference, another .2 will be killer, and the processor is newer (still snapdraggon but newer).
It's like taking all the good things about an evo, and then taking all the good things about epic and putting it together, plus some more. If this phone is released and not just another rumor, it would kill iphone4. Same hardware specs pretty much plus bigger screen, and 4g. Then all the iphone4 fan boys will stop jacking off at the sight of their phone.
The only minus is wp7, but i'm pretty sure that some dev is going to figure a way to run android on it. An android phone will never run wp7 because wp7 is not open source, but android is and so is htc sense. Meaning that someone will be able to port the same exact rom as htc stock to it, but this might or might not happen.
IMO Android will see a similar device. Hopefully Sprint picks it up.
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Just got home a short time ago. While on the road with my EVO on the dash, it faithfully told me where I was going, allowed me to make/recieve calls via hands free bluetooth, all while streaming my music library from my server at home over 3g using Subsonic.
Yeah, sure, I can't wait to ditch this piece of crap for the latest piece of bling.
Win 7 Mobile. Multitasking???
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An android phone will never run wp7 because wp7 is not open source, but android is and so is htc sense.
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Since when is HTC Sense open source?
- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
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Since when is HTC Sense open source?
- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
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it's not open source per say, but with the right kernel it can be packaged into the phone.
And as for multi tasking, it does offer it. you can have multiple first party apps running. It's just limiting the 3rd party apps from running because of battery issues. I've talked to multiple people that have tested out wp7 and they say battery is conserved REALLY well by doing this. Cutting down on third party apps draining battery. And that htc has a smaller battery than the evo, but i bet the one on hd3 lasts longer.
But this all doesn't matter since I'm not looking to get wp7. You guys took me as if I was supporting wp7. The hardware would do wonders for android, hence why i want to see a port before i buy it.
BUT then again, from some sources that have told me that you will be able to play xbox arcade games on it which use some AMAZING 3d graphics for a phone, versus android which has well pretty ****ty 3d games.
and as far as navigating and calling goes, you will be able to accomplish that easily. And stream music, just not from subsonic.
It's fake. 1.5 GHz Snapdragons aren't coming out until Q4 2011.
Award Tour said:
It's fake. 1.5 GHz Snapdragons aren't coming out until Q4 2011.
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the snapdragon could be fake, but the phone itself doesn't look like it. If you take a look at the demo that microsoft put together for the phones, you would see that it looks almost identical to this phone.
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tuzlU5GAI
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the snapdragon could be fake, but the phone itself doesn't look like it. If you take a look at the demo that microsoft put together for the phones, you would see that it looks almost identical to this phone.
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tuzlU5GAI
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I'm 99% sure it's fake. That photo has been circulating around for a very long time now. If the CPU spec is faked, so is the rest of it. With the HD3 expect nothing more than the Desire HD but with more storage -- maybe a update to the single core 1.3 GHz CPU.
Besides, it ain't about what kind of tool you have, it's all about how you use it!
it's not fake, but it isn't what it should be. Did some digging around and found this.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/htc-hd7-pictured-and-specced-by-rumormongers-trying-to-outdo-one/
Well guess it wont be for sprint since it states gsm and crap. no cdma =/. + evo sized screen + only 8gb built in + kick stand looks cheap and gay. Only plus side is that its amoled
lol that kick stand looks horrible to me
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I see lots of mistreated and tortured owners of Sony X8 phones.
People bought them in hope to replace old phones and use as main device.
So far NOBODY can use this phone as their main device.
The 2.1 firmware .504 was made same time when X10 was released, but we did not get it, only to receive the root-impossible .47 version !!!
I am sure this was my last purchase from sweden (yes, no ikea, no volvo and no stinky swedish fish for me from now on).
Are there more people feeling like me ?
Tell ericshits what we think of them, show your support for boycotting sweden and their stupid eric**** employees.
Nothing good ever came from sweden anyway (except Abba, long time ago)
Personally i'm quite satisfied with my X8, I bought it as a toy and to experiment with rooting, since i didn't want to risc bricking my X10. I now use it as a 3G modem with great success, but since it's the cheapest Android phone available in my country by a margin of 20% under the nearest HTC phone, i never expected much from the X8.
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I use it for everything and I am satisfied w/o rooting. It's my sixth SE phone
Your poll is extremely bias. Basically what you've done is said
Do you like Sony Phones?
-No
-No
-No
-No
Not everyone is going to agree with you.
And yes, I've always been happy with Sony Phones. I agree, however, that their decision to keep an android phone locked down is stupid, though.
Android is opensource... user can customize own phone... sony is ****... they lock android... i will sell my phone with the best buyer.. HTC i'm coming..!!! i use sony phone about 3year. i like walkman.. user can customize walkman phone.. sony ****..!!!
Development forums are not made for this kind of questions.
Moved to general.
Its realy good phone.It have everything from android to gps,wi-fi,bluetoth and is cheap.You are crazy men.Why you are buy phone if you dont like it.
Buy iPhone 4 for 2000 dollars then you will be sad because iPhone doesnt have to much better things then SE x8.
Agree 2 u.
That was definitly my last SE phone. It's the ONLY Android device which isn't rootable!
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Agree 2 u.
That was definitly my last SE phone. It's the ONLY Android device which isn't rootable!
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No, it is rootable. Just not on 2.1 firmware.
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Its realy good phone.It have everything from android to gps,wi-fi,bluetoth and is cheap.You are crazy men.Why you are buy phone if you dont like it.
Buy iPhone 4 for 2000 dollars then you will be sad because iPhone doesnt have to much better things then SE x8.
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Agree. Iphone 4 is worse than this cheap x8 phone I almost can do everything with it. I phone is more troublesome. Jailbreak and many other stupid things. X8 w/o root is still smarter than iphone.
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I agree. Despite not being able to root 2.1 it's a very well put together device even if you havent updated yet. Besides its only a matter of time before one of us geeks finds another exploit
Yeah, dat's right. At least they gave us an 2.1 update, right?
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I'm using x8 as a main phone, and i had waited it since august. I like Sony phones-the best phones.
I have a Sony Ericsson P910i. This phone was a brick. My friend, Kristian used it as a work phone. It was dark red when I got it. Kristian was painted it. I cleaned the whole device and assembled it as a brand new hammer.
Now I have an X8. Akku is **** but that is the only benefit of Android phones. My GPS flying, Android 2.1 flying as well. I need the root only or hacking the bootloader. That is only 11 more days. I can wait.
I am handling this device as a finger friendly computer. I do not brake it as Kristian but this phone lives as the fish in the ocean.
Not too keen about such a biased poll... thought I'd balance it a bit.
I'm happy about my x8, but I do realize that I would be even more happy with an android device from another manufacturer. For me, its not a phone, it's an android device. How well it performs as an android device is alpha omega. Manufacturers that don't provide updates to most recent version ASAP, are simply cut from my list of potential buys in the future.
I have no anger towards SE. I am happy about my phone. Next time tho, it won't be an SE, unless they convince me they got their stuff together and realize that its no longer about the phones, but about running android well. I'll simply look elsewhere.
Manufacturers who still think they sell phones (SE, Nokia), will have a hard time competing with companies who sell devices (HTC, LG, Samsung).
Stupid thread.Go home and cry.Dont waste our time here please.
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Thread closed on account of the fact it pointless
OP if you disagree with my decision feel free to PM me and ill tell you why im right
Here's something to further boost our kiddie egos and bragging rights :victory: - It comes as no surprise to me really that the exquisite Sony XTZ is EISA's pick for the European Tablet of the Year 2013 - 2014. So happy I went with Sony on this one
Hit the link for the short run down: http://www.eisa.eu/award/31/european-tablet-2013-2014.html:cool:
Tell me this doesn't make you that much prouder to be an SXTZ owner :highfive:
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Its a good Android tablet. For a time at least, lol.
I do agree that given the weight and size its a marvel of technology considering the performance and quality of construction.
Sony appear to be moving in the right direction, lets hope this trend continues.
Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms
Anicane said:
Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms
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Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied
GretaLewd said:
Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
Anicane said:
Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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Don't look now, but TechRadar seems to share the same views as us. They also gave the SXTZ top honors as 2013's tablet: http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/10-best-tablet-pcs-in-the-world-today-1079603
Anicane said:
Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers.... Sony offers so very much better support than other OEMs, like Samsung and HTC, and send updates ,such faster than other OEMs as well. It seems like Sony would/should be a developer favorite, the only thing I can think of is that no major Sony flagship smartphones are carried by the major US carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile have carried 1 or 2 but Verizon hasn't had one since the Play, but there should still be more development.
The price tag is another thing hindering development but not much, the other tablets I was looking at before I purchased the XTZ offered much less for the same amount or more, really the price is not too bad when you think about it. The LTE model is overpriced, $900 in the US when I bout my WiFi model, but I would guess the reason for that would be to deter people from buying it off contract. If money is the issue there have still been major amounts of development on phones and tablets with the same, or higher, price tag, I paid less for my XTZ than my Note 2 or any other phone I've bought in the past few years, so there has to be something I am missing.
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shangrila500 said:
I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers....
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I think you mean " I just don't comprehend why Sony products are not favored by developers...."