I'm pretty sure the answer to this is implied or even obvious to some of you out there from the technical specs scattered around this website (and others) on the different flavors of HD2, but I'm unable to reach a conclusive conclusion on my own, so I'll simply plead ignorance and ask it outright:
If I buy a US T-Mobile and attempt to use it on the AT&T network with my 3G AT&T SIM card, which of the following will happen, to the best of your knowledge?:
It won't work at all.
It will work, but only for EDGE access.
It will work as a 3G phone just fine.
It will work on At&t, but GSM only, meaning only voice and edge. You will not be able to get 3G, no matter what rom or radio you flash.
Yep, the above is correct. It will work on Edge only. However, do note that the phone would have to be unlocked first. If you just switch the SIM cards it will not work
currently, it won't work at all.
No one has reported to unlock this beast successfully.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll stay away from this experiment then.
ive got mines unlock and im loving it despite the t-mo brand at the top other then that im loving it.im only egde but it really doesnt matter.
buy the telstra hd2, it will work on att 3G
eastside770 said:
ive got mines unlock and im loving it despite the t-mo brand at the top other then that im loving it.im only egde but it really doesnt matter.
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How/where did you do that?
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How/where did you do that?
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I successfully unlocked my T-Mobile HD2 yesterday (to switch back to AT&T) after visiting the following site: htccode.com
It'll cost about 25 Euros to get unlocked... Also, the support person is pretty responsive.
bearlo said:
I successfully unlocked my T-Mobile HD2 yesterday (to switch back to AT&T) after visiting the following site: htccode.com
It'll cost about 25 Euros to get unlocked... Also, the support person is pretty responsive.
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In looking at the band frequencies for the HD2, it appears that you may be able to set it up for AT&T's flavor of 3G. Is this correct?
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In looking at the band frequencies for the HD2, it appears that you may be able to set it up for AT&T's flavor of 3G. Is this correct?
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no, you are confusing gsm bands and umts bands. tmo us won't do 3g on at&t
samsamuel said:
no, you are confusing gsm bands and umts bands. tmo us won't do 3g on at&t
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Yeah, the GSM(1900+850) in the band frequencies threw me off. I thought that was what AT&T used for 3G. Doesn't matter to me, I'm on T-Mobile anyway... and I keep my 3G off most of the time for battery conservation, lol.
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So I am looking at getting the HD2 to replace my 3Gs iPhone. I actually just tried a Nexus One and while it is a great device there are some items that need to be addressed, mainly in the fit and finish side, plus full out of box Exchange support.
SO, with that said. I noticed MobileCity has the HD2 for $719 and this feels like a good price for this device. It is however the import version and the guy on the phone said it will NOT work in any USA 3G system.
My question is this, with a ROM update will this device work just fine on the T-Mobile 3G system today?
Thanks!
Current HD2 will not work 3G US
Please note that the hardware of the HD2 is only 1900/2100 bands. For 3G in the USA you will need 1700Mhz for T-Mo or 850Mhz for AT&T.
No softwre will do it, if the radio band is not supported by hardware. Rumor says T-MO will have the US version of HD2 by the end of Q1/2010. my guess is April 2010. Note that if you are on AT&T even unlocking will not work for you even then.
Personally- I 'lost' my 3G by buying the current HD2 model. It worth it, as for SMS/emails the 3G is not needed, and I can have WiFi free hot spots ..
Bummer, but a glimmer of hope there....
So you saying you do not miss the 3G service at all? I would also be in wifi coverage at home and in the office, heck I could even just stay with AT&T for now. Would you be able to compare it to an iPhone 3GS?
I thought that the HD2 radios were the same for both the US and the Europe versions as they are quad-band radios and it was just a software update for the radios.
socialwill said:
I thought that the HD2 radios were the same for both the US and the Europe versions as they are quad-band radios and it was just a software update for the radios.
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There are now 4 distinct locality based versions of the HD2 with different radio bands for UMTS/3G
Quad band refers only to the GSM element, not UMTS
Well slap me and call me Susan, I did not know there were 4 units...which one is the device I should look at then even if it would not work on 3G?
socialwill said:
Well slap me and call me Susan, I did not know there were 4 units...which one is the device I should look at then even if it would not work on 3G?
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There you go Susan- details on PDAdb
Great! Thanks for the link.
Anyone able to say they are happy they went from a 3GS to the HD2? If so, why?
NeilM said:
There you go Susan- details on PDAdb
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No offense, but PDAdb is utter trash. 4 different units of HD2? The Tmo US having 900/2100? Another HD2 US having 850/1900? Tmo US is on a 1700/2100 UMTS so no, that link to Tmo US HD2 is completely wrong. When did the 850/1900 HD2 was even mentioned anywhere on the net? AFAIK, the closeless you'll come to AT&T 3G is the australian version which has 850/2100 UMTS. I'd be careful giving people that link with unsubstantiated information.
Thanks. What device do you have?
So now the question is would it be better to wait for the T-Mobile version or go with a current device?
So I'm assuming that you have T-Mobile? If you do, just wait for the Tmo version to be release around March. That's all you need to know if you want Tmo 3G.
In case you want AT&T 3G, there's no news of 850/1900 band other than the Australian version that i talked about above. The Australian version is coming out at the end of this month.
Damn..now the question is whether to wait for the Australian version or just get it tonight from eBay.
iPhone 3Ha vs. HD2
had both. there is no way the iPhone beats the HD2 in any category but battery. but you can have two batteries...
the iPhone is slower , bloated, had to be jail broken of you consider any customizing, and must have itunes and Apple support. not for me. was a bitter trial.
why EBay? see www.networkingrus.com . got 3 phones from them already.
bigE
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had both. there is no way the iPhone beats the HD2 in any category but battery. but you can have two batteries...
the iPhone is slower , bloated, had to be jail broken of you consider any customizing, and must have itunes and Apple support. not for me. was a bitter trial.
why EBay? see www.networkingrus.com . got 3 phones from them already.
bigE
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What makes networkingrus.com so good? Just curious, but I like the site.
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So I'm assuming that you have T-Mobile? If you do, just wait for the Tmo version to be release around March. That's all you need to know if you want Tmo 3G.
In case you want AT&T 3G, there's no news of 850/1900 band other than the Australian version that i talked about above. The Australian version is coming out at the end of this month.
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No, actually I am on AT&T so it would be a break of contract to move to T-Mobile, however it would be a cheaper data plan over all..
What are most people using here? T-Mobile or AT&T for the HD2?
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No, actually I am on AT&T so it would be a break of contract to move to T-Mobile, however it would be a cheaper data plan over all..
What are most people using here? T-Mobile or AT&T for the HD2?
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I'm using AT&T without data plan.
I am on T-Mobile simply for the fact I save $50 dollars a month for the inconvenience of only having the Edge network.
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I'm using AT&T without data plan.
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How are you doing that?
FunMCRider said:
I am on T-Mobile simply for the fact I save $50 dollars a month for the inconvenience of only having the Edge network.
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How is the device on Edge only? Part of me wants to move now, however the other part of me says if I am going to get a device on T-Mobile, why not just wait for the 3G edge version from T-Mobile.
In the US it's going to be Edge only. I'm using it in Canada (Edge only again) but to be honest, haven't really missed much. I don't surf on it that much and I'd rather do it over Wifi anyways (home/office)
Can someone tell me how to unlock the Tmobile US version of the HD2? I would like to use it on At&t in the US.
Thanks!!
This phone has been released?
No, but I was able to buy an early version off craigslist
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No, but I was able to buy an early version off craigslist
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Very Interesting
It's an awesome device, too bad mine didn't come with the microSD card that has all the T-mobile games and goodies..
also, the camera doesn't seem to work..not sure why. i was told that the device i have was a test unit that tmo used to test the rom w/their network..etc.
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Can someone tell me how to unlock the Tmobile US version of the HD2? I would like to use it on At&t in the US.
Thanks!!
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I used leo.unlock-now.com to unlock my device that was locked to T-Mobile UK and they have T-Mobile US on the website. It's quick too. took less than 30mins for my code to arrive.
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No, but I was able to buy an early version off craigslist
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You understand that it won't get 3G on at&t?
Some unboxing pictures of T-Mobile US HD2:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/03/09/t-mobile-htc-hd2-unboxing/
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No, but I was able to buy an early version off craigslist
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you sure that's the US version? not the Euro one? How much ROM it got?
no 3G on AT&T question
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You understand that it won't get 3G on at&t?
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Can someone explain to me, or point me to a thread, why a US T-Mo phone would not be compatible with AT&T's 3G? I am thinking about buying a HD2 and taking it to AT&T because I have no T-Mo coverage at work. But tethering and data rates are critical to me.
Thanks
Because TMo decided to be clever and chose a spectrum for their 3G service completely apart from everyone else (save for Wind Mobile in Canada.)
You'd get EDGE at best.
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Can someone explain to me, or point me to a thread, why a US T-Mo phone would not be compatible with AT&T's 3G? I am thinking about buying a HD2 and taking it to AT&T because I have no T-Mo coverage at work. But tethering and data rates are critical to me.
Thanks
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T-mo uses different bands than at&t for 3g. You would only get edge speeds on at&t with a t-mo us hd2. If you get the australian telstra HD2, you can get 3g with at&t.
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Can someone tell me how to unlock the Tmobile US version of the HD2? I would like to use it on At&t in the US.
Thanks!!
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I don't understand how you were able to buy a TMO version of the HD2 from craigslist when the phone hasn't even been released to the stores. More than likely you bought a foreign HD2 that has been unlocked for use on any GSM carrier.
Like other threads have stated, TMO and ATT 3G use different frequencies. IF it is a TMO HD2 you won't be able to use ATT 3G and vice versa. Also, this phone being a foreign HD2 (more than likely), you won't be able to use 3G on TMO. Though, maybe on ATT.
Anyway, I digress, in order to unlock the phone for use across GSM carriers, you have to obtain the unlock code either from HTC or TMO (or ATT) and need a "foreign" SIM card to input the unlock code. The unlock is based on the IMEI of your particular phone and thus is unique to each phone.
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T-mo uses different bands than at&t for 3g. You would only get edge speeds on at&t with a t-mo us hd2. If you get the australian telstra HD2, you can get 3g with at&t.
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Sweet, I will check out that route.
Thanks
when hd2 release from tmobile I will get one without contract.I have 5.99 data plan so far.my question is the hd2 can use that data plan what I have??!
paullu said:
when hd2 release from tmobile I will get one without contract.I have 5.99 data plan so far.my question is the hd2 can use that data plan what I have??!
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Of course, HD2 is just another wm6x phone.
akhnaten said:
Can someone explain to me, or point me to a thread, why a US T-Mo phone would not be compatible with AT&T's 3G? I am thinking about buying a HD2 and taking it to AT&T because I have no T-Mo coverage at work. But tethering and data rates are critical to me.
Thanks
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at&t uses different 3g frequency
HD2
TMONEWS.COM is saying it will release the 24th of this month.
I have been a t-mo customer for like 8 years so I called them last night and after some beating around the bush the rep verified the 24th (they are not supposed to leak anything on this phone until it drops) He also said it will be $449 buying outright or $180 for existing customer and a 2 yr extension.
Once I got this guy talking (which took a while) he really began spilling the beans so I am pretty pleased with the info I received.
I'll be standing at the T-Mo door at 9am on the 24th to get this beast.
Even the T-Mo rep compared it to several other models (Nexus one and others) and he said it's a beast and gonna give the iphone some stiff competition.
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I don't understand how you were able to buy a TMO version of the HD2 from craigslist when the phone hasn't even been released to the stores. More than likely you bought a foreign HD2 that has been unlocked for use on any GSM carrier.
Like other threads have stated, TMO and ATT 3G use different frequencies. IF it is a TMO HD2 you won't be able to use ATT 3G and vice versa. Also, this phone being a foreign HD2 (more than likely), you won't be able to use 3G on TMO. Though, maybe on ATT.
Anyway, I digress, in order to unlock the phone for use across GSM carriers, you have to obtain the unlock code either from HTC or TMO (or ATT) and need a "foreign" SIM card to input the unlock code. The unlock is based on the IMEI of your particular phone and thus is unique to each phone.
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What does that mean?
I was planning on buying from tmobile, but now I need to get a foreign SIM card too?
Pics or this didn't happen.
Picked up an Aria and immediately found I was heading overseas. Managed to get it unlocked and put a new sim in, but now it will not connect to 3G networks. It will connect to edge quite nicely though.
HTC told me that the only way to have 3G access was to have the AT&T sim in the phone. I really doubt that, and after reading the threads on here I think I have come to the right place to find a work around.
So any suggestions or fixes??
If this is something easy please forgive the newb.
If you are still in the United States, are you using T-Mobile? If so then the 3g bands are different from At&t's. It will only connect to edge. Also if you go anywhere outside the US then the same is true.
I would think that were the case if the sim carried the frequency settings but the phone does correct?
I am in Israel and when the AT&T sim is in the unlocked Aria I have 3G, put Cellcoms sim in the Aria and 3G goes away. Now if I put the same Cellcom sim in an unlocked mytouch 3G, well there is 3G again. All of this is happening on the cellcom network by the way. So that tells me that there has to be some setting that AT&T's sim is tripping either when inserted or removed??
Now does that make sense..... Or not?
hmmm... that is a pickle then. I couldn't tell you about that. You might want to contact Cellcom and ask them personally about it. I don't know if there is a settings file that changes that. I know it only comes with two bands and maybe the at&t sim is connecting you to another network that you didn't list and maybe that is the mix up.
Yea sat with one of their guys for 2.5 hours yesterday. Was making him crazy, that is why I broke down and called HTC. Thanks for the input.
att aria 3g freqs 850/1900
tmobile touch3g 3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
looks that cellcom carrier freqs are the same as tmobiles since aria does not support those u wont get 3g just edge
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Picked up an Aria and immediately found I was heading overseas. Managed to get it unlocked and put a new sim in, but now it will not connect to 3G networks.
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How did you get it unlocked, if you may share?
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How did you get it unlocked, if you may share?
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just call customer service in the usa its(was-idk if it still is) a law that companies must unlock upon users request
Nope the law went away...again. They claimed there were no unlock codes yet. I found a place online it was called "HTCsimunlock" I think. Anywho they sent me the code after about 30 min.
BTW. Figured it out have 3G now but only in certain areas with Cellcom. Still working on making it everywhere.
Thanks for the help everybody.
Great, thanks!
So far it looks like the Tmobile S4 has LTE/HSPA+ support for AT&T, and no real signs of a locked bootloader. Anyone else plan on buying that version and unlocking it if the bootloader is in fact unlocked?
Does anyone know of any apps that would test the LTE/HSPA+ bands the phone is capable of? I want to go into a Tmobile and use a test unit to see if I can get service with my LTE AT&T SIM.
https://explore.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s4
Edit: Well, it looks like I'll be getting the Tmobile variant unsubsidized and use it on AT&T. Tmobile will unlock the phone if you pay the total cost up front. I just need to find a replacement back cover to rid myself of the stupid Tmobile logo on the back... lol.
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So far it looks like the Tmobile S4 has LTE/HSPA+ support for AT&T, and no real signs of a locked bootloader. Anyone else plan on buying that version and unlocking it if the bootloader is in fact unlocked?
Does anyone know of any apps that would test the LTE/HSPA+ bands the phone is capable of? I want to go into a Tmobile and use a test unit to see if I can get service with my LTE AT&T SIM.
https://explore.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s4
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If I had the money to buy the S4 outright for full price, I would just get an i9505.
EDIT: Spoke too soon. The i9505 doesn't support AT&T's LTE bands.
Can you post info on the source? I was also curious about this but i was thinking if we changed the radios like they did in the past that maybe we could get something working?
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Can you post info on the source? I was also curious about this but i was thinking if we changed the radios like they did in the past that maybe we could get something working?
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I put the info in the OP that I have so far; the LTE/3G radios are reported to support all of AT&T's bands. The bootloader, I'm going off of a guess since I don't think that Tmobile could afford to bribe Samsung to lock their bootloaders for them.
HMM, ok thanks for the info so far. I might have to go out and pick one up and test it.
Looks like the T-Mobile version has all the same bands and some extra ones added in. For instance the at&t only has lte bands 4&17. The tmobile version has LTE bands 1,2,4,5,7&17. Will T-Mobile unlock their phones for u??
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
I dnot know t mobile has att lte but i am using att phone with t mobile sim in it and i am getting 12-15 Mbps speed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40888195&postcount=46
T-Mobile:
HSPA+ Bands: I (UMTS 2100), II (1900), IV (1700/2100/AWS), V (850)
LTE Bands: Band 1 (2100), 2 (1900), 4 (1700/2100), 5(850), 7 (2600) & 17
GSM Bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Rogers - Applies for Bell and Telus:
GSM Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:2100/2600
AT&T:
4G-LTE Band 4 and 17
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
T-Mobile Bootloader Locked or Unlocked ?
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So far it looks like the Tmobile S4 has LTE/HSPA+ support for AT&T, and no real signs of a locked bootloader. Anyone else plan on buying that version and unlocking it if the bootloader is in fact unlocked?
Does anyone know of any apps that would test the LTE/HSPA+ bands the phone is capable of? I want to go into a Tmobile and use a test unit to see if I can get service with my LTE AT&T SIM.
https://explore.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s4
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I'm feeling like a newbie today cause I have my new T-Mobile Galaxy S4 in front of me & still playing with new features after 3 hours.
Tell me how to check to see if bootloader is unlocked and I'll do it.
Also trying to remember where we go to unlock the developer tools. Only remember that it must be clicked 7 times?
Just remembered, Settings.About Device>Build Number <Click Build Number 7 times, back out and Developer options magically appears.
Now i can go into it and toggle USB debugging. Now I only feel 95% newbie.
Glenn
So .. How do I get TMoble 4G on my HTC One X
What do I have to do get off Edge and onto Tmobile 3g/4g. I have the unlocked HTC One X ... What apps are there, and what steps needs to be followed.
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What do I have to do get off Edge and onto Tmobile 3g/4g. I have the unlocked HTC One X ... What apps are there, and what steps needs to be followed.
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Do you realize you are in the S4 forum?
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I'm feeling like a newbie today cause I have my new T-Mobile Galaxy S4 in front of me & still playing with new features after 3 hours.
Tell me how to check to see if bootloader is unlocked and I'll do it.
Also trying to remember where we go to unlock the developer tools. Only remember that it must be clicked 7 times?
Just remembered, Settings.About Device>Build Number <Click Build Number 7 times, back out and Developer options magically appears.
Now i can go into it and toggle USB debugging. Now I only feel 95% newbie.
Glenn
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you don't have to worry about checking the bootloader, it has already been confirmed to be unlocked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258476
I love this thread, i cant wait to get the Tmo version of the S4 and return this locked down model.
Stroked from my Dirty Nocturnal'd Galaxy S4
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Do you realize you are in the S4 forum?
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Oh ... thanx... fustration!!!!
Has anybody tried their T-Mobile phone on AT&T yet?
If so, I have a couple of questions.
1. Can you use the T-Mobile phone to wireless tether (become a wifi hotspot) on AT&T's network? The AT&T version can be used to tether (with a simple hack). I was just wondering if a different .APK would be needed to do the same with the T-Mobile phone on AT&T's network or if the T-Mobile phone already has an APK installed that works on AT&T's network?
2. I realize an existing AT&T sim card can just simply be placed into the sim unlocked T-Mobile phone for it to work, but how would I go about changing the imei and other phone info that AT&T has in their system about the phone? In other words, would AT&T cause problems with anyone using a T-Mobile phone on their network even if the person paid full price for the phone and it is unlocked? Would it be better to have them change the system information at a store versus over the telephone?
3. It is reported that the T-Mobile phone works fine on AT&T's LTE network, has anyone verified this and does the phone show LTE when on AT&T's LTE network?
Thank you for any replies. Hopefully this information can help people decide if they want to buy the T-Mobile S4 to use on AT&T or not.
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Has anybody tried their T-Mobile phone on AT&T yet?
If so, I have a couple of questions.
1. Can you use the T-Mobile phone to wireless tether (become a wifi hotspot) on AT&T's network? The AT&T version can be used to tether (with a simple hack). I was just wondering if a different .APK would be needed to do the same with the T-Mobile phone on AT&T's network or if the T-Mobile phone already has an APK installed that works on AT&T's network?
2. I realize an existing AT&T sim card can just simply be placed into the sim unlocked T-Mobile phone for it to work, but how would I go about changing the imei and other phone info that AT&T has in their system about the phone? In other words, would AT&T cause problems with anyone using a T-Mobile phone on their network even if the person paid full price for the phone and it is unlocked? Would it be better to have them change the system information at a store versus over the telephone?
3. It is reported that the T-Mobile phone works fine on AT&T's LTE network, has anyone verified this and does the phone show LTE when on AT&T's LTE network?
Thank you for any replies. Hopefully this information can help people decide if they want to buy the T-Mobile S4 to use on AT&T or not.
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You can, for now, use PDAnet for tethering.
As far as changing the phone to appear as "unknown" to AT&T's system, don't do it without a backup of your /efs folder. I don't recommend doing it either because it's not really worth changing things around to hide that you're on a Tmobile phone, because for the most part, they don't care as long as you're paying them your monthly bill. I personally know a friend who has used her unlocked HTC Amaze on AT&T without issue (she was stuck to 2G speeds). The only way for you to have an "unknown" phone on your account is to use an international model phone such as the HTC one or the i9500 (unconfirmed that the i9300/i9500 model is entered into AT&T's system, I only hèard a rumour that AT&T has the IMEI of those phones in its system). My i9100 currently shows up as "unknown" in my bill statement.
I took a screenshot, but I don't have a link of the LTE working conformation (attached). I won't be getting my phone until I am on holiday in New Hampshire so that I can avoid the sales tax on purchasing the Tmobile variant. I would ask my parents to buy it for me, and I send them the money, but they have no technological skills whatsoëver close to asking/knowing what to ask for at the Tmobile store. Sorry guys, lol.
my t mobile m919 stock mdl rooted..tetheting works out of the box SN at&t and on their system it doesn't know what kind of phone I have...
Sent from my SGS 4
I am on ATT but I am tired of ATT BS and locked bootloaders and ROM work arounds. I want to be able to use international ROMs. Plus I want to have my ATT LTE.
I want freedom to have me device my way and with any carrier sim. With this said money is not the issue. So what do I buy. If I am reading things right the answer is a T-Mobile Version and then cancel the contract and put my ATT SIM in the Note 3.
Can anyone confirm or advise?
Want your cake (international version) and eat it too (non-international LTE) AND complain because getting both requires a bit of work? LOL
No carrier is going to let you have full freedom w/o you going behind their back (i.e. unlocking bootloaders and custom ROMs)
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Want your cake (international version) and eat it too (non-international LTE) AND complain because getting both requires a bit of work? LOL
No carrier is going to let you have full freedom w/o you going behind their back (i.e. unlocking bootloaders and custom ROMs)
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The T-Mobile appears to have an unlocked Bootloader and unlocked if paid in full. So that sounds like a clean unit to me. That I am free to load Intonational ROM's etc...
If you don't mind 32GB only of internal storage, which effectively translates into ~24GB of user available space - T-Mobile GN3 is your best bet. Pay in full, to get it unlocked and put your AT&T sim into it. Then you will have unlocked bootloader, no carrier network lock, no regional lock and it will work with AT&T LTE. You will be able to use international roms as well, as long as they're not for the octa-core version. You will also be able to flash AT&T modem to it, if you wish.
I just got the T-Mobile Note 3 from Negri (unlocked) It is $689 with no tax here in CA
boilerkim said:
I just got the T-Mobile Note 3 from Negri (unlocked) It is $689 with no tax here in CA
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Wait, how did you get yours already?
Apo11on said:
If you don't mind 32GB only of internal storage, which effectively translates into ~24GB of user available space - T-Mobile GN3 is your best bet. Pay in full, to get it unlocked and put your AT&T sim into it. Then you will have unlocked bootloader, no carrier network lock, no regional lock and it will work with AT&T LTE. You will be able to use international roms as well, as long as they're not for the octa-core version. You will also be able to flash AT&T modem to it, if you wish.
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I want to order a Note 3 from Negri to use it with AIO. I would like to have the unlocked bootloader but I'm worry about something I read in another thread here (Note 3 Carrier Selection):
"The main difference between the 1700 band being used by AT&T or TMO device is that AT&T version will use that 1700 for LTE signals where as Tmobile variant will use the 1700 for their HSPA signals."
What if ATT is using 1700 in my area for LTE? I will have the unlocked bootloader and no LTE? Where can I find what frequencies ATT is using in what areas? I made some searches without luck.
Any help will be appreciated.
T-Mobile note3 bootloader appears to be locked. Can't flash CWM
jmarquesh said:
I want to order a Note 3 from Negri to use it with AIO. I would like to have the unlocked bootloader but I'm worry about something I read in another thread here (Note 3 Carrier Selection):
"The main difference between the 1700 band being used by AT&T or TMO device is that AT&T version will use that 1700 for LTE signals where as Tmobile variant will use the 1700 for their HSPA signals."
What if ATT is using 1700 in my area for LTE? I will have the unlocked bootloader and no LTE? Where can I find what frequencies ATT is using in what areas? I made some searches without luck.
Any help will be appreciated.
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Some search without luck? You've got to be kidding me! I have personally posted AT&T's LTE frequencies in at least 3 threads in Note 3 forums. It takes about 2 seconds to google a wiki page with LTE frequencies by carrier worldwide...FYI AT&T operates it's LTE network on both bands 4 and 17 in most areas. However, I don't understand why do you think there is a problem with AT&T & T-Mo using the same frequency in a certain area. There are 2 absolutely independent carriers, each with their own towers and your phone will get service from a carrier, based on whatever SIM you put in. What difference do these overlapping frequencies make to you?
eclipxe said:
T-Mobile note3 bootloader appears to be locked. Can't flash CWM
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Do you have a source for this?
serialtoon said:
Wait, how did you get yours already?
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I didn't, just ordered it
Apo11on said:
Some search without luck? You've got to be kidding me! I have personally posted AT&T's LTE frequencies in at least 3 threads in Note 3 forums. It takes about 2 seconds to google a wiki page with LTE frequencies by carrier worldwide...FYI AT&T operates it's LTE network on both bands 4 and 17 in most areas. However, I don't understand why do you think there is a problem with AT&T & T-Mo using the same frequency in a certain area. There are 2 absolutely independent carriers, each with their own towers and your phone will get service from a carrier, based on whatever SIM you put in. What difference do these overlapping frequencies make to you?
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I did find information about the frequencies used by each carrier. What I was looking for is what frequency is used in a given area, say near my house. Maybe that is not the right question since I'm new to all this problem.
In another thread (Note 3 Carrier Selection) people is recommending to buy the TMobile version over the ATT version even if you want to use it with ATT (AIO). Because the bootloader in TMo may be unlocked. But then cheols46 posted this:
The main difference between the 1700 band being used by AT&T or TMO device is that AT&T version will use that 1700 for LTE signals where as Tmobile variant will use the 1700 for their HSPA signals.
I have 2 HTC One from each carrier and while AT&T version will pick up LTE at my house with the AT&T sim card in it, while T-mobile version only picks up HSPA+ with the AT&T sim card. It really depends on the tower frequency you use in your area.
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I want to know if that will happen to me if I buy the TMo version to use it with AIO.
Thanks in advance for any help you may provide.
That guy is getting only HSPA with AT&T SIM card because his APN for AT&T LTE is not configured correctly on the T-Mo phone. He probably didnt change the APN settings, or maybe T-Mo stock firmware doesnt even have those settings, since the network didnt support LTE when that phone was bought?
If your phone is configured correctly, and you use AT&T SIM you should get LTE service.
Apo11on said:
That guy is getting only HSPA with AT&T SIM card because his APN for AT&T LTE is not configured correctly on the T-Mo phone. He probably didnt change the APN settings, or maybe T-Mo stock firmware doesnt even have those settings, since the network didnt support LTE when that phone was bought?
If your phone is configured correctly, and you use AT&T SIM you should get LTE service.
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Will you advice to buy the sim unlocked TMo version instead of the ATT version, because of the unlocked bootloader and the support for TMo bands (again this is just something I read)? I'm planning to use it with AIO but after spending all that money it will be good to know that I could use it with TMo if I wanted.
jmarquesh said:
Will you advice to buy the sim unlocked TMo version instead of the ATT version, because of the unlocked bootloader and the support for TMo bands (again this is just something I read)? I'm planning to use it with AIO but after spending all that money it will be good to know that I could use it with TMo if I wanted.
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If i were you I'd wait a week or two, until other people do it, and you can find enough feedback on how well things work. The question, you should be asking yourself is not a choice between T-Mo vs AT&T version, but T-Mo vs international LTE version with unlocked bootloader, because getting AT&T one with locked bootloader will severely cripple what you can do with your phone. Keep in mind if you have any LTE version with unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash AT&T modem onto it, once it becomes available, regardless of what LTE bands it currently supports.
Apo11on said:
If i were you I'd wait a week or two, until other people do it, and you can find enough feedback on how well things work. The question, you should be asking yourself is not a choice between T-Mo vs AT&T version, but T-Mo vs international LTE version with unlocked bootloader, because getting AT&T one with locked bootloader will severely cripple what you can do with your phone. Keep in mind if you have any LTE version with unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash AT&T modem onto it, once it becomes available, regardless of what LTE bands it currently supports.
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I'm sort of forced to get an AT&T version (have unlimited data) but considering taking chance that someone will figure out N3 bootloader unlock for future versions of AT&T roms. Is that wise?
sonicthoughts said:
I'm sort of forced to get an AT&T version (have unlimited data) but considering taking chance that someone will figure out N3 bootloader unlock for future versions of AT&T roms. Is that wise?
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I'll give you a hint: http://www.androidoverload.com/bootloader-bounty-exceeds-5k-verizonatt-samsung-galaxy-s4/
boilerkim said:
I just got the T-Mobile Note 3 from Negri (unlocked) It is $689 with no tax here in CA
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Negri still shows preorder, did they start to ship phones?
And by the way it's 669.5 with code ne20offcart