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My HD2 is very unstable with different ROMS. Help please

Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.

I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).

What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb

[email protected] said:
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
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Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?

willbread said:
try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
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Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.

dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
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Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.

tommyjakobsen said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
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When you flash lots of cooked roms, they get "bloated" and the devices started hard-resetting for no reason. this is because of files from old roms being left when the new rom is flashed.
MTTY allows you to enter the device on bootloader and use service commands to format the file system on the device so you can remove all rom files before flashing a new rom!!
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basicly it will format your system and make sure you don't have any files from older roms left on the system which might cause this issues.

tommyjakobsen said:
Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
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i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets

Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...

Petulinek said:
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
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and for me, this didn't help me

willbread said:
i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
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Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.

I had this "freezing during startup" with a number of roms (always after I installed my software) and since that I am always "tweaking" it by the startup order as I described it and was able to solve it!
I do not think that it is hardware related in the amount of cases which are reported. And I am also not a strong believer of this "flashing" and mtty discussion (it could be a solution is some cases but I do not think in this relatively larger number of cases which are reported).
For most of the rom cookers it is not the 1st rom cooking they are doing and the HD2 is not the 1st HD2 device for HTC as well. This is the reason why I do not think that there is a principle rom problem nor a principle hardware problem
Manila Sense is a complex pcs of software and the startup is therefore more complex.
Depending on the tweaks the rom cookers are doing on the XIP and other WM internals there could be a timing interfearance during booting and this is creating the trouble for Manila Sense startup (network, phone, etc.).
Reminds me to the "good old days" with ATART-ST where you had dedicated tools to rearrange the startup seaquenze of the Accessories
At least i think it is worth trying it, you cannot loose anything.
But I played not only with the finaly boot order of htc-Sense (the last one) but also I put other elements in a different order.
Sometimes it was helping to install Panolauncher and put it before HTC Sense startup - I had the impression that just having another application before HTCsense made an improvement to "give HTCSense" more time.
Does not sound like science but a little bit like Voodoo ...
My Autostart folder (only the applications)
1. poutlook.lnk
2. BTTrayCE.lnk
3. De|WMPTempFolder.lnk
4. PKG.lnk
5. Lotus Traveler.lnk (installed by me)
6. LotusPRUploader.lnk (installed by me)
7. Panolauncher.lnk (installed by me)
8. OM10QS.lnk (installed by me - Opera 10 beta)
9. HTCStartUp.lnk
Good luck
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
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gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out.
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i haven't the folder "\Application Folder" on my card. Maybe, this is why this rom works well
I haven't verifyed before so i can't tell you if i had it before

Hi,
could you try to flash ROM that have manila 1921 (manila without document tab),
I facing so many problem when I install ROM with manila 1922 (manila got document tab)
Now has been 4 day, without any problem flash ROM with manila 1921...
give a try...

mtty may help u out

dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
dingolino
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so i just got the last version of sktools.....could anybody please explain how I can change the startup order? sktools has allot of tools and I just cant figure out how its done!
thanx!

Hi,
sounds to me like you have flashed so many times you HD2 has become "Bloated"
this is where for eg, Rom X is 110Mb, and then you Flash Rom Y which is only 100Mb.
When you do the flash there is 10Mb of residual files left from the previous rom., when this happens often you get strange things happening like you describe and worse, your device can start hard resetting for no reason!!
Go to this thread (swap the ** for tt ) h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422 (I cant post links yet!!) and it will fix your issue. (The thread has been shut as there has been a big argument over it, something to do with a disagreement over drivers!! - how gay!)
I can honestly say, although i have only joined recently, i have been a user of this method for about 6 years, I personally know the Guy who opened the thread and i would stand buy him 100%.
Although the thread is closed, i will help with queries via PM if you like!
SS

gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
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I tried deleting the \Application Folder folder and reset the phone.
Of course this equaled a hard reset as all system data stored was in \Application Folder.
So I removed my storage card and did a hard reset so that the system data will not be stored in the storage card.
Hopefully this will be make the device more stable as such.

use the mtty to format ur device first, then flash the rom u want to flash.
I have encountered the same issues just like u, after use the MTTY, so far so good.
the post is kind of complex, but it is worth to have a try.

HTC Album keeps crashing

Hi guys, I tried searching and did not find any answers so I am hoping someone will be able to help.
A few weeks ago my HD2 (TMo US) was running great with CHT 1.7 and all other sorts of apps from XDA installed. When CHT 1.8 was released I took the leap as I loved v1.7 and thought v1.8 has got to be even better. I was right and all was perfect with the world UNTIL one dreadful day my phone froze when I was flipping through my pics with the Photo tab. No big deal I thought. Did a reset and tried it again to see if it was a fluke. To my dismay it was not and it happened whether I started the HTCAlbum app directly or used the Photo Tab. I thought it could be CHT 1.8 so decided I would wait for CHT 1.8.5 which was going to have all the bugs fixed. I did the ROM update to 2.13 and installed CHT 1.8.5 figuring a clean install would solve the issue. Sadfully that did not help. I did a hard reset again, DID NOT install CHT and Albums kept freezing after a few seconds. Sometimes I was able to get back into Sense but other times I had to reset the phone.
I figured it could not be CHT at this point but may be a SD card access issue. After another hard reset I formatted my SD card as that was where the pictures were stored. After loading the pictures back onto the card, I got the same results. I then moved the pictures from the SD card into main memory and same results. So some searching on the internet led me to a few post on HTCAlbums crashing but no luck in locating a fix. I also tried searching for a HTCAlbum cab file with no success. Just to be clear, nothing happens when accessing the SD card in any other way. I can read/write/browse in any other program as much as I want as fast as I want with the SD card or Device memory. Other pic viewers work flawlessly as well. Only when accessing pics with Albums causes the problem whether on the SD card or Device Memory so I am lead to believe something is corrupt with the HTCAlbums progam/files.
So after this novel I have two questions:
1. Do all the files on the phone get recreated with a hard reset?
2. Does anyone have an Albums cab file they can share? (Chefs please help!)
Suggestions are welcomed

If you hard reset the phone mate it will send it back to when you first got it or flashed a new rom, so will be fresh it will delete all data,contacts, pictures etc on the phone so back up, I think HTC album will be cooked in and not available separately unless you ask in a ROM thread

That is what I thought but even after 4 different hard resets and a TMo ROM upgrade I still have this stupid issue.
I guess it's worth asking in the ROM forum or learn how to load a custom ROM.
Thnx...

I made a post about this very thing last week...
For 3 months my phone worked great Not a single problem, other than my stupid mistakes.
Then out of the blue the HTC photo album just started locking up. After countless hard resets, and reading some of the replies on my post, I thought it might be a bad pic file. I removed all the pics and it still locks up when scrolling through the pics, and sometimes when starting the camera. I'm at a total loss on this one. I hope someone can come up with something.
For now I am just living with it, because I really dont want to take the phone back and take the chance of getting a piece of crap referb that someone ells had even more problems with.

me too.
+1 funny thing is i didn't even know that we had an album viewer until i hit it twice on accident and it came up then proceeded to crash. i found anotheranother place that offered a cab but it wouldn't install so it was no help and now i can't find it again.

I flashed the 2.13 ROM again last night and now the freezing happens ONLY when the Albumsearcher.exe is scanning for images. If use the file explorer to open an image the Albums program will read from the image files no problem and flips through them quite fast from both the Device and the SD card. The moment I start the Albums program or the Photo tab and tries to pull up the thumbnails, I get an error message for either Albumsearcher.exe or HTCAlbum.exe and my SD card is not visible until after a soft reset.
I can't say it is a SD card access issue as it happens only with Albums or more specifically Albumsearcher.exe? What I do not understand is why after the crash the SD is no longer visible on the device?

i had the same problam , i tried new roms still keep hapening
my solution was task 29 and now it works like a charm
if you do task 29 back up everything
and do you r home work
hope that helps

an if you dont want to do task 29 ,
you can make resco photo as you primary album , if you want that let me know il give you the files

jeewadj said:
i had the same problam , i tried new roms still keep hapening
my solution was task 29 and now it works like a charm
if you do task 29 back up everything
and do you r home work
hope that helps
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you my friend
are leading me down a very dark path....lol
I started to read through the HD2 T29 thread and it seems it will solve my problem. This is what a hard reset should do in the first place. I still have some more reading before I take the plunge as I am not clear if I can use the tool without HSPL as my HD2 is all stock and would like to flash the stock 2.13 ROM. I also thought I read somewhere that if you flash a custom ROM you can't go back to stock. Does not seem right but I am heading over to the ROM FAQ threads so I don't screw anything up.
Thanks again bud for showing me the light

no worries mate , but according to my understanding if you install hspl it will avoid you r warranty
also have a custom rom downloded and the suitable radio allready insatalled
let me know if you want any more help il do my best to help you out

I will have to install HSPL and with 9 months left in my warranty period I think I can like without the Albums program. If I have more issues then I may change my mind.
That being said, I will take you up on the RESCO PHOTO offer. When you have the chance can you either post or email me the files? I will PM you my email.

amc1274 said:
I will have to install HSPL and with 9 months left in my warranty period I think I can like without the Albums program. If I have more issues then I may change my mind.
That being said, I will take you up on the RESCO PHOTO offer. When you have the chance can you either post or email me the files? I will PM you my email.
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The problem is with the sd card take off all your pics and save them to your computer. The problem is with the pictures sytored on the sd card, it causes crashes of the albums program. I went through 2 new phones,before that i discovers the common problem the same sdcard was used. I got rid of the pics and that fixed the problem.

hi i have attached the manila file with will tell the devise to open up resco insted of htc album, you will have to get resco your self as i cant give it to you according to forum rules sorry
copy the manila to windows directory and overrite exsiting file then soft reset
do this at your own risk , this has been confirmed working by me and other users where i got the file from
always back up the phone before modyfing anything
ps
and also put this the windows folder
you wil have to extract the file out of the zip

Thanks for the files. I found the RESCO app so no sweat. Rules are rules

[Q] HTC Sense will Not Load

I've had the same problem now over a number (4 to be precise) of HD2's and it concerns the issue of Sense being unable to load causing me to have to HR and reinstall all my software and licence keys etc, its a right pain in the arse
I'd rather not change ROm's party because I'm a alittle confused by the options available
On of the items of software I THOUGHT might be the issue is CHT. I've used 1.8.5 and reverted back to 1.8 but it still happens
today it has done it again just 2 days after the last crash andI'm wondering if anyone has any ideas, such as could it be as a result of rebooting whilst connected to PC?
Most of my installed software is in the device.
All I'm looking for is a little stability
Any help would be gratefully received
Running
OS - 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila - 2.5.19211619.0
ROM - 1.66.405.2 (76641)WWE
Radio - 2.07.51.22_2
Help Please!

Hi
This usually happens due a software/application you have installed. The trouble is, you cant tell which one it is.However, with my experience, im quite sure its always linked to a tweak application and not an application on its own.Only suggestion I can give is probably to install each system tweak cab seperatley and do soft reset after installing each one. This way, you may be able to tell which tweak is affecting Sense from starting.
Hope this helps.......

actually alot of sense freezes/ crashes are due to a faulty sd card. I would move everything of importance off the card and format it. Or, you can put it into a card reader and have windows do a scan and repair on it.
Also you can delete the application folder off your sd card, soft reset and try it. Sometimes that folder can cause problems (probably linked to bad sectors on the card that the folder was on).

Phone problems!!!

Hi everybody,
I have got the LEO last week. I had several problems I could solve, but one big I could not solve yet.
It belongs to the Phone. After making a call, I am not able to make a second one. The application freezes, when I close it, I am not able to open the Phone again. Making a call from the history list is also sometimes something i can not do.
Can please somebody help me? Without the posibility to make easy and quickly calls the LEO is for me useless.
Thank You very much in advance!!!

i have the leo 4 7-8 months.never had problems.tried soft reset?if that wont help i believe that you must go 4 hard reset
maybe some program you put makes that.

If your LEO is giving so much problems within a week, you probably have a mondaymorning model.
Try to exchange it at the shop as it is not funtioning properly. (In EU this is consumer right)
If not possible,
What is it you have done to your phone allready?
You mention having problems and solved them, can you remember what you have done?
Has your phone ever funtioned without problems?
Try to do a complete factory reset or hard reset (look here)
Then format SD (first save data somewhere)
After reset/format does your phone function correctly?
Furthermore:
If you install apps/enhancements/skins, install all apps you need for your phone running on your device.
If you remove SD, your device should be able to startup without any problems, only applications you use besides the normal startup should reside on sd Card.
So for example:
Cookies home tab (becomes part of home screen)=> on device
Igo8 Navigator (Started manually after boot) => on sd card
Task manager (runs allways on background) => device
Games like experiment 13 => on sd card
[....]

if its brand new, get a new one, otherwise
backup
hard reset
if fixed, ok!
if not fixed,
try find an updated stock rom (if you want to stay stock) or get HSPL and flash a cooked rom.
If problem fixed, ok!
if not fixed, hardware problem.

Thank You for the replies. In the morning I tought the problem is fixed, but is not. Can be Cookies home tab a problem?

Stano 74 said:
Thank You for the replies. In the morning I tought the problem is fixed, but is not. Can be Cookies home tab a problem?
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well it could be cookies but thousands of people use cookies so its unlikely.do you have loads of stuff installed?
also, are you restoring registry settings when you flash? because you shouldn't do that when you go to a new ROM. registry settings backup is only really for restoring to the same rom after hard reseting.

I tried to found an official ROM update for my device. I found one, but the only change is the launching date. On my device is one from 11.1.2010 and I have found one from 4.6.2010. Does it make sense to update?

[Q] Processes use 90%+ of CPU

Hello all! I looked through the first 20 pages of threads, but no luck on finding my particular issue in any of them. I also attempted to use the search feature, but I keep getting a message stating that the service is unavailable. :/
My HD2 began acting up this past week with over heating/ battery drainage. Along with those symptoms I also get a lot of slowdown when trying to go through the UI or wake up the phone... At first I thought it was another Gmail update that was causing it, but after looking at the processes in the Task Manager I found that it was Manila.exe and VoiceCmd.exe that were eating up 90%+ of the CPU. I was wondering if anyone has any idea on what I can do about this situation. Can the files be replaced?
The phone was bought from T-Mobile about a year ago, and is running a stock rom that hasn't been updated to the most recent rom. I've tried a hard reset to try to fix my problem, but, alas, it still remains. The only thing that I have really done with this phone, tinkering-wise, is run a SuperFroyo Android SD card build. Would that be a possible cause of my problem?
Thank you for taking the time to read this. The following is what is currently installed on the phone, if more information is needed please let me know.
T-Mobile HD2
Manila: 2.5.20121412.2
Rom: 2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE
Radio: 2.10.50.26

Running a stock ROM for more than a year, that´s quite a long time...
Three things come into my mind as a possible hint:
1) Did you delete the "application data" folder before (or even after) making the hard reset? Sometimes, that data gets old... you can simply delete it, your system will recreate the files.
2) You added a new app, tweak or mod, even after the hard reset, which is incompatible. (Or, voice control is running wild?)
3) A hardware error...

might be worth a shot to start clean (do a hard reset again) and try this...boot up the device WITHOUT the sd card.
if that makes things better, check the sd card for errors. to be on the safe side, back up the data on the sd card and format it and restore your data and finally try the device WITH the sd card to see if that kills the issue!

Thanks guys, I tried what you suggested, unfortunately, my problem still remains. Would updating the stock rom to the new one that T-Mobile put out possibly solve anything? Would flashing an entirely different rom; Andoird Nand, Windows Phone 7 be a possible solution? I believe my 1 year warranty with T-Mobile is up, so going flash crazy doesn't seem like a bad idea.
Update: I ended up doing the rom update through T-Mobile, and I have yet to have any issues with CPU spikes since I did it yesterday. I'm currently running HyperDroid CM7 in conjunction with PortaDroid to run it from the SD card instead of Nand. It's working flawlessly so far, before it was crashing/ freezing left and right.