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Hi Frinds my phone model num is t3320
i want to know that
all touch2 rom is compertabel for my device???????????
if not then how i update my phone rom??????????????/
Difference is that your phone does not have 3G or GPS. No reason why custom Rom's should not work.
So to flash a new Rom back-up your current Rom (see specific thread), apply hard SPL and select the Rom you like.....
Have fun.
Actually, one of the best ROMs I found here is based on your model. This one : New [ROM] [6.5.3_23541_WWE_Radio_3.53.25.20], uploaded by TangerineTractor. It's awesome and I recommend it to you. I'm using it now and it has only minor bugs that you/I can live with and although my model is T3333 after I flashed this ROM, my device says T3320 but everything works well. Try it!
You need to Hard SPL before you can install new ROM
But... there is no Hard SPL for T3320 until now
I already try T3333 hard SPL from Jockey on my T3320... but it not work!
troubletop said:
You need to Hard SPL before you can install new ROM
But... there is no Hard SPL for T3320 until now
I already try T3333 hard SPL from Jockey on my T3320... but it not work!
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and there is no possibility in near future because i am coordinating with Jockywilson for the HSPL from last 10 DAys and finally failed to use HSPL
HSPL
But the HSPL has worked for me .... well I know its funny but did at the very first go. For my system config details - visit jockey's thread.
troubletop said:
You need to Hard SPL before you can install new ROM
But... there is no Hard SPL for T3320 until now
I already try T3333 hard SPL from Jockey on my T3320... but it not work!
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Hello All,
As for Addicted2Xda, the HSPL worked for my device (T3320) too & that too in first go.
I dont know much about these things & this is the first device that I own. I verified the procedure & my device in the tri-color screen reads 1.28.Hard on the LHS side. So i believe that HSPL has worked. The only way to confirm that this works is to load a custom ROM(which i am ready to load) but before that I would like to
1. Backup my current ROM (i.e. the original one from HTC so that in event of any issue, i can claim warranty)
2. In case the custom ROM doesnt flash or work, I can load the original one.
Now I, dont know the procedure, requirements, pre-req on how to do it & hence I would like your expert help in this matter. I am ready to do it, its just that i dont know how to do it & I would like to learn.
So is it possible, for someone to post the stepwise procedure to
1. Backup the current ROM.
2. Load the custom ROM.
For our device Model T3320. I also have a reason to specify "our device Model T3320" in every request simply becaue I, have read most of the thread there & found out that there is much misleading information about this device T3320 here. For e.g. in some threads you find that the HSPL is not working in some you find that it works & other things.
My aim (request or what ever you call it) in humble manner, is to make it easy for guys like me (who are new / dumb at this) to use this beautiful forum, in much better manner.
It is possible that, my aim has already been achieved & I am doing something wrong (probably since I have not read all the rules), in which case I am due for a butt-whipping from all the senior members, which i am ready to take, provided, it becomes easy for guys like me to use this forum.
Long post, you all can thrash me for it & i would gladly take the heat, but please consider my reqeust.
Regards,
H.D
Great job HD.... i am also sailing in the same ship with you. T3320 is my first Windows mobile, there are a lot of doubts and confusions with the device.
Most of the terms used in this site are complete jargons to me, it would be great if someone comes forward to enlighten newbies like us.
If you have Hard SPLed your phone, just make sure that your boot loader shows 1.28.Hard (meaning you have successfully HSPLed your device). Luckily you do not need to backup your original ROM as it is already available in the Roll up thread . WWE Asia is your ROM (if you are an Asian that is ).
if your HSPL shows as 1.28.Hard, you can flash any custom ROM you feel like. Just give a few of them a shot, you are bound to like one of them .
Once I flashed my ROM with a custom ROM, never bothered to revert to the Original crap, be it my Vox, my Gene or my Mega.
BTW if you are really interested to know the methods / jargons (well some of them), just pm me and I will be glad to help you - but please note that I have a real job, so it will take some time .
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If you have Hard SPLed your phone, just make sure that your boot loader shows 1.28.Hard (meaning you have successfully HSPLed your device). Luckily you do not need to backup your original ROM as it is already available in the Roll up thread . WWE Asia is your ROM (if you are an Asian that is ).
if your HSPL shows as 1.28.Hard, you can flash any custom ROM you feel like. Just give a few of them a shot, you are bound to like one of them .
Once I flashed my ROM with a custom ROM, never bothered to revert to the Original crap, be it my Vox, my Gene or my Mega.
BTW if you are really interested to know the methods / jargons (well some of them), just pm me and I will be glad to help you - but please note that I have a real job, so it will take some time .
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Thank you so much Mr.Addicted2xda
1. How can i roll up to original ROM after flashing a new one?
2. Will the warranty be violated if i flash it?
neon7 said:
Thank you so much Mr.Addicted2xda
1. How can i roll up to original ROM after flashing a new one?
2. Will the warranty be violated if i flash it?
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Once you hardspl your device, your warranty is void.. unless you find a way to put the original spl back on your device... whether you flash a custom ROM or not is immaterial.
But please note that it is my personal opinion, but:
1. I have a Vox for nearly 4 years now... never needed to send it to service centre... only had to change the battery once... that too last year.
2. I had a Gene for more than 1.5 years and sold it to a friend of mine (who used it for 6 months till he lost it)... without a glitch.
3. Using my touch2, flashed it within 1 month without caring for the world (BTW I am not a millionaire... if I was, I would go for TP2 ).
If you want to try new stuff... you have to take the risk.
Best of luck in enjoying your Touch2 right now... or waiting for the warranty to get over
Hey.. Please, can I anyone Help me out and tell me, is there any way flashing ROM through Memory Card.. I have read somewhere on XDA..
I had HTC GENE(P3400i), And I flashed that many times.. But now I'm using HTC Touch2 (T3320 Special Version).. And I want to flash this too..
My Problem is.. Someone told me that after flashing my Touch2 I won't be able to play FM Radio.. Is it TRUE.?
And Please tell me the Procedure by which I can safely Flash my ROM..
First, make HSPL to hack the phone, second choose a ROM from all of the roms in this section, you can put it via data cabel.
mirost1 said:
First, make HSPL to hack the phone, second choose a ROM from all of the roms in this section, you can put it via data cabel.
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Thanks, But I'm afraid that I have T3320, Can I flash the ROM for T3333.?
Baadshah555 said:
Thanks, But I'm afraid that I have T3320, Can I flash the ROM for T3333.?
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yes you can.i have the same model and flashed almost
ALL the ROMS available in the ROM section of MEGA
and all work great!!
so go ahead and enjoy yourself.
Baadshah555 said:
Someone told me that after flashing my Touch2 I won't be able to play FM Radio.. Is it TRUE.?
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Which crackpot told you that ????
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rakesh_4utoo said:
and there is no possibility in near future because i am coordinating with Jockywilson for the HSPL from last 10 DAys and finally failed to use HSPL
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I never knew my model was 3320, I used jockey's HSPL, been using custom ROMS from here, all works fine
Hello. I know I should have looked around more but I did and I am still confused.
I have got a HTC HD2 today from USA(the T-mobile version) and it has lots of the branding, now I would like to simply flash it with a clean software(ROM) so it would have an original boot screen and stuff but I dont know how to do it (i looked at the flashing tutorial but I did not understand it at all, although I know how to flash Nokias and Sony Ericssons )
Would someone be able to provide me with a few simple steps what to do? This is the t-mobile version with 1024 mb of rom and 16gb internal memory. (Well it has the simlock as well but as far as I know the ebay seller has to provide me with an unlock code as they promised). I am sorry for creating another topic but this is my first Windows phone I ever had and I really want to get it working asap because at the moment I can not even call/text because of the simlock.
I am unsure whether I should have posted it in the ROM section or the General section so mods please move it if applicable.
Oh No. I just realised there is a special forum for T-Mobile HD2's. Sorry!
Thanks for any support. I will appreciate it a lot.
Look Here. Do try to at least read the stickys before posting. This thread is found in the T-Mobile USA HD2 ROM Development forum, believe it or not.
Kalavere said:
Look Here. Do try to at least read the stickys before posting. This thread is found in the T-Mobile USA HD2 ROM Development forum, believe it or not.
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Did you even read his post before giving him crap?
He said he read it but didn't understand it. I don't really blame him since that write up is a bit confusing. I even had a hard time following it and I had owned and flashed my Fuze long before going to my HD2.
It's a pretty simple process. Go to the T-Mob section/ROM section. Find a ROM you would like to try. You will also want to download the HSPL found in the tutorial. Run HSPL once the phone say "We Hacked It" you are good to flash a custom ROM of your choice. Once you download the ROM you want go into the file and pull out the file ending in nbh. If it does not have the name LEOIMG.nbh rename it to such then place it on the main directory of the memory card. Go into bootloader by turning the phone off, pressing the volume keys then while pressing them press the power/end call key. Once there just follow what it asks/tells you.
It's that simple. You don't have to worry about doing task29 right off the bat. So let that wait till later when you are more confident of what you are doing.
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Did you even read his post before giving him crap?
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Everything you need to know is in that post. I worked it out reading from the same tutorial, how is it that he fails to do the same?
can you be more specific in your question? what part is hanging you up?
also...why can't you make calls? that doesn't seem good...
Would his simlock issue not be him trying to use a non t-mo sim in this phone!?!?
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Everything you need to know is in that post. I worked it out reading from the same tutorial, how is it that he fails to do the same?
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Maybe because you had a WM phone before owning an HD2 and already understood the flashing process? He said he read it and didn't understand it clearly because he had never owned a WM phone before this one. Like I said there is some confusing information in that post that kind of conflicts with itself. It could have been written a bit more clearly. The OP of the tut kind of takes it that the person reading it should already know some things about flashing.
Also to the OP of this thread. Changing the ROM will not sim unlock the phone it will simply update the OS. If you want to get the sim unlocked you only have a few choices. You can either wait for the person you bought it from to come up with one for you, you can go to one of serveral sites and purchase one (normally around $14 US), or you can contact T-Mobile for it. Since you are3 most likely trying to run this on another carrier that latter will not work for you.
Also what carrier are you trying to put this on. Depending on the carrier you might have limited service. If you are trying to put this on At&t it will not get 3g service.
I looked at those ROMs, but they are all modified, all I want is a brand new rom with no t-mobile stuff and I would stick with it until my htc skills get better. I just really want to get the software stuff done before I actually start using the phone.
- I think I will get the code tomorrow, they have to give me one as its a part of the transaction.
- I tried to use it with 3 UK as I live in the UK.
- I can't make calls as I can not start the phone with my UK simcard (I made it sound like a faulty phone in my first post).
Once again, sorry for posting in a wrong section... I was too unpatient. Got my phone in hands and gone to xda-developers.com straight away hoping to get everything done quickly and then I realised the difference between HD2 and HD2 Tmobile
Simply... I understood the tutorial better after reading it many times, but all I want is just debrand my phone (with no cooked roms or any other stuff), at least now.
mateuszd said:
I looked at those ROMs, but they are all modified, all I want is a brand new rom with no t-mobile stuff and I would stick with it until my htc skills get better. I just really want to get the software stuff done before I actually start using the phone.
- I think I will get the code tomorrow, they have to give me one as its a part of the transaction.
- I tried to use it with 3 UK as I live in the UK.
- I can't make calls as I can not start the phone with my UK simcard (I made it sound like a faulty phone in my first post).
Once again, sorry for posting in a wrong section... I was too unpatient. Got my phone in hands and gone to xda-developers.com straight away hoping to get everything done quickly and then I realised the difference between HD2 and HD2 Tmobile
Simply... I understood the tutorial better after reading it many times, but all I want is just debrand my phone (with no cooked roms or any other stuff), at least now.
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Ummm the only rom for the TMOUS HD2 you are going to find "Without" the TMO stuff is a Custom rom ...
To take the TMO stuff out you have to MODIFY, or you take another ROM from another provider and MODIFY it ... So for what you are looking for is a clean, slim custom ROM ...
There are a few out there that are really slimmed down ROMs some even very close to stock , find one that sounds like you like and is compatible with your phone and give it a whirl , you will need HSPL first, HSPL3 is out so search for it ...
Just in case if someone wants to help me searching for a "clean, slim custom ROM", I will provide some hardware and software info that I think my be useful.
Ram Size: 576mb
Flash size: 1024mb
OS Version 5.2.21889 (21889.5.0.87) - isn't Windows (6).5.3 out?
Manila version: 2.5.20121412.1
Rom Version: 2.10.531.1 (82076)
Radio Version: 2.08.50.08_2
I will have a look for a clean rom (is anyone using a clean rom or is it just me demanding too much from that phone?). Please help me look for one...
mateuszd said:
Just in case if someone wants to help me searching for a "clean, slim custom ROM", I will provide some hardware and software info that I think my be useful.
Ram Size: 576mb
Flash size: 1024mb
OS Version 5.2.21889 (21889.5.0.87) - isn't Windows (6).5.3 out?
Manila version: 2.5.20121412.1
Rom Version: 2.10.531.1 (82076)
Radio Version: 2.08.50.08_2
I will have a look for a clean rom (is anyone using a clean rom or is it just me demanding too much from that phone?). Please help me look for one...
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I prefer the energy ROMs but they may not be close enough to stock for you
so look here ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656835
If you seen 21xxx in the OS version it is 6.5
If you see 23xxx it is 6.5.x (Actually I think 23xxx is 6.5.3.xxx)
Basically getting rid of startup and shutdown logos would be good.
This is the generic rom I would like to use but it will not work: htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=856
Is there no equivalent ROM to this one but for the TMO US version?
And finally, I can hardly find any clean ROM but i will keep searching...
EDIT: I found the newest T-mobile rom on their website which I have now downloaded... is there a way I could remove all branding from there before I flash it into my phone?
Btw, Is it true that the US TMO HD2 will not work with 3G network in UK? I'm scared now
I will make a new topic in the appropiate Tmobile HD2 Section... Please answer there if you want to help me.
My bad I did not notice the tmobile section before... Sorry Once Again.
mateuszd said:
I will make a new topic in the appropiate Tmobile HD2 Section... Please answer there if you want to help me.
My bad I did not notice the tmobile section before... Sorry Once Again.
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hi. i just bought a tmobile hd2. some of my phones informations is:
spl-2.10.0000 8g xe
fcc id:nm8pb81120
os version 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
manila ver 2.5.20121412.2
rom 2.13.531.1 (90963) wwe
redio ver 2.10.50.26
protocol 15.39.50.07u
cpu 8250b
speed 1024mhz
ram 576 mb
flash size 1024mb
i've read lots of articles on this site. i suppose i'll need to instal another rom on my phone. i read a lot but i get little confused. i think first i have to instal HardSPL (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614) second i have to flash a radio and i can instal a rom. and on this page (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784) it says i don't need to flash a radio. which means that i just install hardspl and instal this rom... am i right?
can you guys help me what am i suppose to do... and which version of hardspl, radio and rom works well for me?
sory to ask lots of questions but i don't know enough about wm phones ( thanks for guides...
Hi, basic steps are
1. Backup your important data like contacts etc..
2. Its very IMPORTANT that you Flash HardSPL first before flashing any ROM (No worries,it only needs to be done once for you to enjoy subsequent custom ROMs). Version 2.08.HSPL is ok.
3. Browse the threads for a suitable "TMobile HD2 compatible ROM" or visit this link for comfirmed ROMs.
4. Perform a Hard reset after successfully flashing any of the ROMs
5. Enjoy!
i suggest u clear your schedule, get coffee, tea, drink(s) and visit This Link . It contains info and links to all the guides you can possibly need to push you and your device to a higher level. i wouldn't recommend trying android till you are very comfortable with flashing ROMs.
you dont need to worry about the radio just yet, because since you have a tmous phone, it already has a radio that will work with all tmous compatible roms anyway.
Well I'm gonna just say right now I'm not an expert or anything since I'm relatively new too. I'm just trying to help, I would however advise wait for a more experienced person to answer.
First, if you want to flash a ROM follow this guide for the TMOUS HD2's. It goes over how to do it, which ROMs are compatible and all that.
Yes, you do have to get HSPL (except I think there are methods when you don't, though that might just be for the international phones...). But to get HSPL you should probably use this. I don't know if it is the only thing that does it but it, from what I understand, is the most well known. It also keeps you from "bricking" your phone.
From what I understand the only time you have to flash a radio is if the ROM needs it, and the chefs will say if it needs a certain one or list ones that it works with on their ROM page. I think most of them support the radio that comes stock, though don't take my word for it. I would wait for someone else to confirm or re-explain this paragraph because I'm not completely for sure.
As for which ROM is right for you...well only you can answer that. They all are different and different ones have advantages over the others. You just gotta explore a little and see what looks nice. This is the list of ROMs that support the T-Mobile HD2 so stick to it. I don't know how up-to-date it is (meaning I don't know if there are any new ones or not) but stick to those, you can "brick" your phone otherwise.
I would however advise if you're new to WM phones to try out themes first. They are a lot safer and I don't think there is any chance of ruining your phone (the only reason I flashed mine is because I've done it with a different phone before and felt comfortable doing it). Don't do anything you are uncomfortable doing and understand all the risks that go into anything you do to your phone before you do them.
Sorry for the long post, just hope this helps a little.
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I just got double ninja'd
thaks everybody for all informations. i'm still reading to find out how to install a rom and which one is good. i liked enegy rom gtx themed. i'll take a try. just before doing something to my phone i'm just tring to learn more but i'll do it anyway with a goodway or hardway... i hope everythig goes well...
thanks again...
Muzun28 said:
thaks everybody for all informations. i'm still reading to find out how to install a rom and which one is good. i liked enegy rom gtx themed. i'll take a try. just before doing something to my phone i'm just tring to learn more but i'll do it anyway with a goodway or hardway... i hope everythig goes well...
thanks again...
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That's d spirit...You'll be amazed @ what the search function on XDA coughs up...Everything'll go well once u stick to d guides and TMobile compatibie ROMs & Radios.
i picked up this rom (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652649) but there is two options. 1) com5(c5) 2)com2(c2). i don't know what it means... and if want to install one of these roms do i have to flash a radio after installing hspl?
and what is the stock rom?
thanks again...
It looks like COM5 and COM2 are just different versions. COM5 offers more options it looks like though, but I'm not sure. Someone else can probably answer that a lot better than me. I am also unable to answer the radio question. Sorry.
As for stock ROM though, that is the ROM that came already on your HD2 when you got it.
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i picked up this rom (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652649) but there is two options. 1) com5(c5) 2)com2(c2). i don't know what it means... and if want to install one of these roms do i have to flash a radio after installing hspl?
and what is the stock rom?
thanks again...
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I see u picked out Kumar's ROM...Click Here for a thread on the definitions and differences between COMs...And No, you won't need to flash a radio after installing HSPL or a custom ROM (Unless you are having problems connecting to your network in which case, u need 2 be careful 2 flash a radio known to work with Tmobile HD2).
Stock ROM is the original/default ROM which TMobile shipped with your device. Follow this guide and you can grab the stock ROM from here. The Stock ROM has to be re-flashed to your device if u ever have to return it to Tmobile as flashing a custom ROM voids your warranty. Grab useful links and watch video tutorials here.
Hope dis helps ya.
thaks voncrane i learned a lot today...
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thaks voncrane i learned a lot today...
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You are welcome, we r all noobs on different levels..
Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
I am running the updated rom 2.13 I am on t-mobile though and I am able to use android all day but once I restart it reverts back to WM. So I am not sure if this helps you...I was able to get everything running but the calls sounded robotic. I read I needed to flash to a new rom.
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Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
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Well first, if you have the T-Mobile version of the phone, you do NOT want to use an update from the HTC site, that's for the euro version of the phone. The upgraded stock rom that you can use is available on T-Mobile's support page for the HD2.
Now, flashing to the correct updated ROM will not prevent you from doing anything...you'll still be able to unlock it later, you can still run Android, and you can still do any customizations you want. It's just a newer version of the stock ROM that originally came on the phone.
Hey, thanks so much guys, I'll search for the T-mobile page. I'm glad you guys caught it before I bricked me phone.
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term. Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one? I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should? Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
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BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term.
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one?
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That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should?
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There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
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That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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Wow, thank you so much sirphunkee, you sir are a scholar with your detailed response. Anyways, I apologize but I am intrigued by your response and more questions evolve. Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
Again I would like to sincerely thank you for everyone's patience with me, especially sirphunkee. Thank you.
No problem!
Poopmonkey said:
Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
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Most of the HD2's built or shipped in the past 2 months have the newer ROM on them, but even if yours doesn't then yes you can just go to the T-Mobile site and get the newer one.
Both of the stock ROM's have the radio(s) included, so you don't have to worry about it if you just stay with one of those ROM's. If you flash a custom ROM it (usually) won't have a radio included, it'll just use whatever radio was already on your phone (i.e. whatever one came with the stock ROM originally). You can flash to different radio versions....ONLY ones that are clearly labeled as being compatible with the US HD2...doesn't matter if you're running a stock or custom ROM, but it does require HSPL first before a radio can be flashed.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
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The original stock T-Mobile US ROM (yes, the one I'm running currently) is 2.10.531.1 ("2.10" for short), and the newer one that's been released is 2.13...so that pic you linked there just shows the stock upgrade utility about to upgrade a ROM to the new version (with an included radio).
You can tell what ROM/Radio is on your phone by reading the little text that appears on the bottom of the screen during bootup, and you can also access that info through a settings option once the phone is running.
"WWE" = "WorldWide English"....just means that I have an english-based ROM. Other languages are available by applying ROM's specifically built for that language, but I honestly don't even know if any exist for the T-Mobile HD2, I think they're only available for the euro model.
Since it's very easy to flash the upgraded stock ROM, if your phone comes with the older one I would just suggest running that for a few days and see if it gives you any headaches....if so, then just go ahead and flash to the newer one. There's a number of threads in this section that discuss the differences in the stock ROM's, and the advantages/disadvantages of each. Regardless of which stock ROM you have, the process to flash to a custom ROM is the same either way (HSPL, etc).
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
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HSPL is "permanent", in the sense that it remains on your phone until you manually flash a different HSPL (like flashing back to stock SPL should you need to return the phone for warranty reasons). Once you have HSPL (yes, a hard bootloader) on your phone (HSPL3 being the latest/best to use), you can flash all the different custom ROMs or radios that you want, without having to apply HSPL again.
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
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There a bunch of different things you can to to tweak a stock ROM, or to futher tweak a custom one, and BsB is just a nice tight convenient collection of some of the more common ones. I use BsB and don't have any issues related to it, but I also skip a few of the settings in it ("tap time" for example) that have caused issues for other users. Besides BsB, I also use HD2Tweak, JWMD Icon Changer, CHT/CHTE, as well as a whole list of other stand-alone tweaks that come in the form of cab files, or manual registry hacks...some are related to performance or function, while some are strictly visual or style tweaks.
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
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I originially thought the same (that Android ran in parallel with WM and that was causing the batt drain), but from what I read it actually shuts down WM when it runs, so I guess that isn't the cause of the drain...but honestly I haven't been able to keep up with all the finer details of the Android porting that's going on. And yes, a version of Androd that will load straight to NAND at bootup is the final hurdle I was talking about, and that's exactly what a number of dev's are trying very hard to make happen....I suspect that a breakthrough in that is right around the corner, but I'm no dev so take that with a grain of salt!
Hope that helps! It will be a lot easier once you have the unit in-hand and can play with it yourself. Also be sure to look over this thread (if you haven't already): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845
Thank you again sirphunkee! Anyways I just got my hd2 and for the most part I like it. Though, I have a question, how can I backup my contacts so that after a new rom install I dont need to relink their facebook accounts again? Basically, I don't have the same names for my contacts, I only have first names so I have to redo it manually one by one and I want to use activesync to do it but it's telling me I need Outlook. Why do I need Outlook? Isn't that a stupid outdated email application? Also, how do you remove all the bloatware like blockbuster from the HD2? Is flashing a custom rom the only option?
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
anyone have a idea? I'd like to experiment with android but i wanna make sure i have the right settings to i dontt have a brick in my hands after I'm done.
Poopmonkey said:
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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I think what that thread is saying is that having a custom ROM is what helps with the stability of Android, not just putting HSPL3 on there (unless that's buried in that thread somewhere that I missed...). But yes, putting a custom ROM on the phone would have the prerequisite of HSPL anyway.
I don't have a custom ROM or even HSPL on my HD2, and I'm currently using the Desire v5 build of Android on here. It seems to run very stable, but I haven't yet gotten a few things working on it (i.e. 3G)...I can't say if a custom ROM would make those things work, but I can say it doesn't ever crash or hang or seem to slow down at all.
I just wanted you to know that HSPL wasn't mandatory for you to be able to try out Android on your phone.
Ok thank you so much sirphunkee again. Anyways, I'm wondering if you know why my weather will not update now when I ask it to on a Wifi connection. I try to update it and just says that its a connection error. And also my windows marketplace app installs seem to stall on the 3/4 complete and they never finish. Could you perhaps help me with that?
Lastly, I was wondering would you be able to tell me if I wanted to put a custom ROM on my HD2 what setting do I need to put on my HD2 for a successful flash?
FIND THE "ANDROID ON HD2" THREAD everything is explained.
Hello Everyone,
I need some help and I would appreciate some feedback. Hope I wouldn't have to bore you with a lot of questions here. I just bought an HTC HD2 mobile phone (Model: T8585) WinMo 6.5 Professional with the following software specs:
SPL: SPL 1.66.0000 XE
ROM Version: 1.72.162.0 GER
Radio : 2.07.61.22_2
Protocol Version: 15.32.50.07U
OS Version: 5.2.21869
The problem is that the OS is in German and I want to change this to English. The phone is not locked to any network. I can use any mobile operator's simcard. In fact, I am currently using O2 simcard, although I bought the phone from vodafone germany. The thing is that it looks like the hardware is locked to vodafone's custom german OS, I tried to install an english OS and it failed with an error like "invalid ID" or something. I have read through a few threads here but I thought of explaining my situation here first before proceeding with anything.
So my first question is, can I use the HSPL3 in this case and what kind of ROM will I be able to flash my htc hd2 with after HSPL3? Secondly, can I still maintain my radio software without flashing a new one after hspl3? Thirdly, what's the difference between a cooked rom and a stock rom? Lastly, when a phone is bricked, does it also mean the phone is dead? Can a dead phone be reversed?
I am sorry but I'm a little bit new with HTC. It's my first smartphone actually The first 2 questions are the most important of all.
Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you
Bisoo
Dear user, first of all welcome on xda.
Secondly tray to use the search option, so the next time you don't need to wait till someone answer you.
A lot of new users have mostly the same question, so the answer was alreddy bean given in the past.
But okay, Now I'm replaying your questions, way not help you out.
About your question if you like to stay on stock Rom, but you will have a other language take a look on this thread, read and follow the instructions and all will become Okay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642486
Fore your latest question about the deferent between Stock Rom and Custom Rom, well the there are deferent builders, but the idea is the same. building a Rom with the latest packaging and build on the needs of the followers.
So you will see and find lot of different, the biggest different between the custom Rom's is style!
Take a look on this thread fore finding custom Rom's and read the sticky threads first! there is a lot of usfull information on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
Fore replaying your question about HSPL, this will depends of your choice of your Rom, some Rom builders will advice you to use HSPL2 (1.66) some will advice you HSPL3 2.08, ... it depends of the Rom, and the conclusion of the Rom builder based on his test's.
I hope you have now some more information,
Best
Kurt
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About your question if you like to stay on stock Rom, but you will have a other language take a look on this thread, read and follow the instructions and all will become Okay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642486
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this method will work, but requires making a gold card which isn't free.
much easier to use hspl and then flash a stock rom in your preferred language.
if i were the op i would
1 install hspl2,(hspl3 offers nothing that hspl2 can't do, hspl3 is not "better" or a higher version, it just supports tmous phones, that's all. hspl2 is more useful to regular hd2 users.)
choose either 1.66.hspl or 2.08.hspl, doesn't really matter, you can change it whenever you like.
2 flash the rom of your choice.
you can also search for UK serial and download and flash the latest rom that way, again a search will find all you need
I am so pleased with your feedback. I guess I should have taken some time to go through all the threads on this site, instead of creating a thread which has questions which have already been answered on older threads. But I appreciate your responses
I have to admit that whoever created Hspl is just genius. I followed hspl3 installation guide and now I have been able to flash an European stocked WWE ROM (english) on my german carrier ROMed HTC. I took the S/N from one of the links Kurt provided. It's perfect now, although I am still a bit cautious and hoping nothing happens to my phone. I read a few scary threads here where some people, after some days, complained that their phones died after flashing with hspl. But I have the feeling that if one follows the steps correctly and consider the requirements keenly, probably nothing will happen. That's what I did.
Thanks a lot to you and all the guys who've contributed one way or the other on this site. I am sure I'll be back, maybe not with questions but contributions Thank you so much.
Bisoo