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When will T-mobile release OTA

I got my HD2 last friday and i love it thus far, but i cant help be bothered by problems that just started monday. Such as it drops from 3G-E-G and goes back when i'm in the same position. Today the phone froze on, Message lag and every time i turn my phone from sleep i get this message.
"Cannot connect for a unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed tap settings. If the problem continues reset your mobile device according to your manufactures documentation and try again"
Even when it has full bars. I know a lot of these problems are software related and not hardware I would return the phone but i bought it new from ebay so i cant. Starting to regret this should of gone for the Nexus One.

Since you just got the phone last Friday, did you do much research on this phone? If you had, you would have read on the T-Mo HD2 forums and on here that there have been issues with the phone.
Research would also have suggested to you that the good number of the issues of lagging, freezing, and just plain weirdness on the phone can be attributed to the HTC/Sense Messaging app on the phone. What a number of owners have done is to disable this messaging app and to start using the standard WinMo messaging app. I've had my phone since release day and can say that with the HTC/Sense Messaging, I experienced the weirdness. Since flashing to a cooked ROM and disabling this, I have not experienced any of it at all.
Having said all that, it sounds like you're already frustrated with this and are having second thoughts. But you're in luck since the remorse period for you has not expired. So, I wholeheartedly recommend that you return the phone and get the Nexus One to avoid any future frustration with the phone.

I did do research, also some people have stated their aren't issues. Also i got this phone through EBAY so no remorse period. I like it, i'm just wondering when will Tmobile/HTC release an update that fix all these problems?

KidTech said:
I did do research, also some people have stated their aren't issues. Also i got this phone through EBAY so no remorse period. I like it, i'm just wondering when will Tmobile/HTC release an update that fix all these problems?
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In that case, I suggest finding out from those people without issues why they don't have them and trying them on your phone. As for no remorse period, my bad.
And as for when T-Mo and HTC will release fixes? Perhaps we can ask our friends in the UK how long it's taken HTC to fix their issues. It sounds like they still have them even though they got the phone months ahead of us, so I'm not too hopeful.

KidTech said:
I did do research, also some people have stated their aren't issues. Also i got this phone through EBAY so no remorse period. I like it, i'm just wondering when will Tmobile/HTC release an update that fix all these problems?
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I wouldn't be surprised is there are no more official updates released, as the phone is over 6 months old already. I suggest doing some reading and try to work out the problems yourself. It's a great and very versatile phone with tons of options and potential if you learn how to use WinMo and work out any kinks or problems you come across. There are tons of resources and people to help on this forum. Are you familiar with Windows Mobile, or is this your 1st Windows phone?

Well i hope they do. I do like the phone a lot love the big screen. I did have WM phone it was the Dash but i didnt do much to it..

Its official the update for Tmobile UI sense is coming

I just got contacted by HTC representative who asked me to verify my serial number and he mentioned that they finally realized that there is a problem with sms freezing and UI sense and are working hard to fix it. He doesn't know when this update will be available. I did tell him that new iphone is coming out soon they better fix it now or else
Keep calling htc and tmo to expedite this

Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.

But let some folks on here tell it there wasnt a problem.. it was just "user error."

But custom ROM doesn't fix the sms problems.
But it's more of an annoyance than a problem to begin with. I just delete my texts every 60-80 messages right after syncing with MyPhone.

Pretty Good
dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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You have a pretty good answer for that guy! All most people need to do is put a little research into their phone. Its not that hard to scope out this website and find all kinds of guidance and wisdom. Especially from the senior members.

dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Mr stock broker with no free time, we'll have to wait just a bit more, since none of the new ROM's have completely fixed this problem and from what i can tell its there.
I hope i didn't waist your time but if i did i will send you a check, what is is going rate on wall street these days?

Get roms without htc messaging

earhog said:
Get roms without htc messaging
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This is a top of a line phone and i am not turning anything off, they have to fix it, and i hate that regular sms client.

goldt said:
I just got contacted by HTC representative who asked me to verify my serial number and he mentioned that they finally realized that there is a problem with sms freezing and UI sense and are working hard to fix it. He doesn't know when this update will be available. I did tell him that new iphone is coming out soon they better fix it now or else
Keep calling htc and tmo to expedite this
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Will this update be on HTC's website or T-mobile's? I find that both websites are very difficult to find anything on.

At the same time that I wish they would rush an update out, I hope they take their time and properly fix some of the most prevalent problems with the UI. SMS in general and emails not deleting properly from the HTC UI top my list. Most everything else I have found a fix for.

goldt said:
This is a top of a line phone and i am not turning anything off, they have to fix it, and i hate that regular sms client.
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Bravo my friend. Bravo. I don't understand the ease at which people give up on their right as a customer to be at least satisfied - not even overwhelmed - with the product that they buy. I spent too much money to have to scavenger hunt a fix that is officially not even available yet. Yes, I love XDA, but I should not have to come here for THE BASICS. Sms problems and music glitches that are proprietary?!?!? C'mon. You should come here for advanced tweaks not this BS.
I just called HTC and complained. They said that they are well aware of the problems. There will be a fix, but T-mo has to approve it. It is "supposed" to address: music lag, sms lag and additional sms problems. I was told to monitor this site for the fix: http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
They do not know when it is coming, but they are getting "bombarded" I was told. As the original poster said: Keep calling.

dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".

DECIM8 said:
At the same time that I wish they would rush an update out, I hope they take their time and properly fix some of the most prevalent problems with the UI. SMS in general and emails not deleting properly from the HTC UI top my list. Most everything else I have found a fix for.
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I for one am glad to see that HTC and T-Mobile haven't abandoned their new clients. If the iPhone has taught us anything, it's that customers are much more likely to sue a company if that company admits to a few small errors. Today it's hard to find a company that will update new equipment without solid reason.
But I am very glad to be a member of these forums, where I don't have to wait for the corporate red-tape to be cut and discarded to get my phone fixed

dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Wait, what about those people who dont want to flash or even know anything about XDA? A phone shouldnt have to be lets say hacked to work properly or have the warranty voided to work properly

Raadius said:
Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".
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And let your warranty be voided...

Raadius said:
Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".
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As much as I laughed at this, if it was perfect to begin with then we might be pretty bored here at XDA

I just an email from HTC and they told me to watch T-mobile WMupgrade site..Lets see what will happened.

a sad pattern forming
I just read on pocketnow.com the the euro hd2 is JUST NOW getting an update to stop the music play lag time and skipping. This phone has been out since november overseas. Most of the hot fixes that I have seen on the original hd2 site are the EXACT problems we are now experiencing with the US version.
It is unacceptable to me to have this blatant negligence. We are breaking our necks trying to tweak and hone this phne to the best of its capabilities, but we are doomed to fail because it was shipped - intentionally - flawed. Not even with new flaws but KNOWN pre-existing flaws. I don't find this to be cool in the least.
You would think that given so much time in between the euro and US version introductions that there would honestly be chages made so that the next customers truly get a better experience. It appears that HTC just randomly slapped the 2.0 verion on the software and gave it their blessing. This will be my last phone by this company.

KidTech said:
I just an email from HTC and they told me to watch T-mobile WMupgrade site..Lets see what will happened.
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Overseas, they are just getting a music hot fix 5 months after the introduction of the phone. I am sure there were more than 10 people that complained about the problem. That we here in the states don't have an update up on the site already is ridiculous since htc AND t-moblie knew the sofware was going to react with glitches from the start. We are mirrioring te errors that the first HD2 had. Lets see how long they make us wait.

ya, i agree with some of the other posts on this thread. why should we pay top dollar for the "lastest and greatest" only to search other means for solutions to known problems. i've flashed my rom, but it's still not 100% there, the messaging lags and my data connection goes back and forth all day and i could be sitting in the same spot.
there is no reason i should have to do a bunch of technical crap to this phone to get it to simply function correctly when its supposed to be the best offering by tmobile to date. i mean, i didn't by a barebones computer system here.
i purchased one for my fiance, and she throws fits about it on a daily basis. "i want my iphone back." i cant say the iphone is a better phone, but at least it does what it says it does, usually without problems. i on the otherhand have tweaked mine and far more tech savy, so i understood what i'm getting myself into. but that's not the point, this phone shouldnt be the way it is, and these problems being treated the way they are.

Stay FAR away from Vibrant/Captivate or any other Galaxy S variant

For those thinking about getting the Vibrant/Captivate or pretty much any variant of the Galaxy S DO NOT.
I contacted them via FB and this is the only answer they sent me
"We are working on it. We're sorry about this issue. Please be patient as we know how important this is. Thanks for reaching out!"
I have just received and activated my phone with dum, dum, dum... AT&T and this phone has nothing but GPS issues while I have to admit everything else works fine and is definitely fast.
There is absolutely no way of it accurately doing a turn by turn Navigation with Google Maps.
Ive even resorted to doing a supposed fix and nothing if anything it made the major problem worse.
Same has been reported with the T-Mobile version of the phone.
I highly regret leaving T-Mobile now because the reception was a lot better with them as well.
No wonder tons of people bad mouth AT&T, LOL.
Proof below, stick to the other manufacturers guys... Samsung is testing the waters and these phones should have NEVER been released prior to having it 100% functional.
---->> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/samsung-galaxy-s-gps-gate-two-problems-not-one-and-what-to-do/5#comments

legend221 said:
For those thinking about getting the Vibrant/Captivate or pretty much any variant of the Galaxy S DO NOT.
I contacted them via FB and this is the only answer they sent me
"We are working on it. We're sorry about this issue. Please be patient as we know how important this is. Thanks for reaching out!"
I have just received and activated my phone with dum, dum, dum... AT&T and this phone has nothing but GPS issues while I have to admit everything else works fine and is definitely fast.
There is absolutely no way of it accurately doing a turn by turn Navigation with Google Maps.
Ive even resorted to doing a supposed fix and nothing if anything it made the major problem worse.
Same has been reported with the T-Mobile version of the phone.
I highly regret leaving T-Mobile now because the reception was a lot better with them as well.
No wonder tons of people bad mouth AT&T, LOL.
Proof below, stick to the other manufacturers guys... Samsung is testing the waters and these phones should have NEVER been released prior to having it 100% functional.
---->> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/samsung-galaxy-s-gps-gate-two-problems-not-one-and-what-to-do/5#comments
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Why didnt you wait for g2?

Hey OP!
Have you EVER tried the Vibrant or Captivate? I have the Vibrant and I have had no problems with the GPS. I use the turn by turn directions daily!
You need to know what you are talking about! Yes, there is a documented problem, but that doesn't mean that the GPS is unusable, and NO I haven't applied the GPS fix.

Ace42 said:
Why didnt you wait for g2?
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Ive bought Samsung phone before and I haven't ran into any major issues like this.
The G2 would definitely be a better option.
Thinking Im going to jump to the Sony X10, I hear that they are going to have the CyanogenMod on it pretty soon.

rwbarnes67 said:
Hey OP!
Have you EVER tried the Vibrant or Captivate? I have the Vibrant and I have had no problems with the GPS. I use the turn by turn directions daily!
You need to know what you are talking about! Yes, there is a documented problem, but that doesn't mean that the GPS is unusable, and NO I haven't applied the GPS fix.
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You're trying to come at me like everyone is going to have a working unit Barnes.
Just because YOU got lucky doesn't mean anyone else that buys it will.
There is already a "fix" in the works for units that have faulty GPS but whether it works or if its actually able to fix the issue is another story.
Read this and please don't post again if YOU don't know what you are talking about.

rwbarnes67 said:
Hey OP!
Have you EVER tried the Vibrant or Captivate? I have the Vibrant and I have had no problems with the GPS. I use the turn by turn directions daily!
You need to know what you are talking about! Yes, there is a documented problem, but that doesn't mean that the GPS is unusable, and NO I haven't applied the GPS fix.
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Maybe you are also confused, bring up an address and press the option that says navigation.
See that big blue area around your position THAT is not true GPS and it is only guessing where you are from cell towers.
Like others have said it will not accurately tell you where you are, you can not trust the voice directions at all.
That is faulty and yes Samsung, AT&T, T-Mobile and any other service provider should not be selling these units until it is fixed.

legend221 said:
Maybe you are also confused, bring up an address and press the option that says navigation.
See that big blue area around your position THAT is not true GPS and it is only guessing where you are from cell towers.
Like others have said it will not accurately tell you where you are, you can not trust the voice directions at all.
That is faulty and yes Samsung, AT&T, T-Mobile and any other service provider should not be selling these units until it is fixed.
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That Little blue arrow that tells me EXACTLY where I am on the map as I'm zooming down the freeway and accurately tells me every exit as I'm passing them? I know what I am talking about! And the turn by turn instructions work for me and it re-routes when I miss a street.
OK!!!! You all! You know EVERYTHING and I know NOTHING!
That is all! Sorry for putting in my 2 cents!
By the way, I've been on Android since the G1 in November of 2008. Rooted with the first Jesus Freke roms thru Haykuru and Dudes roms to Cyan and have been doing the same with my Vibrant.
But OK. You guys are THE EXPERTS.
And by the way, you guys never stated whether or not you own a Vibrant.

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By the way, I've been on Android since the G1 in November of 2008. Rooted with the first Jesus Freke roms thru Haykuru and Dudes roms to Cyan and have been doing the same with my Vibrant.
But OK. You guys are THE EXPERTS.
And by the way, you guys never stated whether or not you own a Vibrant.
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I only own G1 & Mytouch Slide, not interested in the Vibrant like my KB's.

buy whatever you want
ive gone thru so many phones since 09, from the g1(when it first came out), hd2, n900, x10 and finally the vibrant. the hd2, n900 and x10 in a matter of 4 months. didnt like windows mobile from being used to android. n900 wasnt what i expected it to be. loved the x10 but only running 1.6. i didnt root it because I eventually bought the vibrant.
only issues i had were facebook syncing and contacts being tripled and gps in searching for a location while in house, but GPS worked FINE when I was on the road. wish i had a car dock for it at the time but will eventually get one.
OP, if you knew of these reasons, such as lag or because of the gps not working properly, then why did you buy it in the first place? i dont think barnes was getting at you, but damn dude, someone's sensitive. no one told you to buy it despite some of the imperfections the phone has. its like people saying sony shouldnt have released the x10 with 1.6 but rather have froyo but they still buy it. and if your response is to root it to get 2.1 or 2.2, i dont think the avg. customer for phones would have any idea of what you are talking about.
you cant please everyone on here. alot of people on xda either want to be a mod or just bump stupid posts because they didnt get an answer within 3 hours.

Returned my Samsung Captivate and is officially back to the HTC Dream/G1 until further notice.
Feeling better already, I can always get that phone when and if the GPS issue is worked out.
That was pretty much the only flaw it has at least on the phone I returned.

steveruv said:
ive gone thru so many phones since 09, from the g1(when it first came out), hd2, n900, x10 and finally the vibrant. the hd2, n900 and x10 in a matter of 4 months. didnt like windows mobile from being used to android. n900 wasnt what i expected it to be. loved the x10 but only running 1.6. i didnt root it because I eventually bought the vibrant.
only issues i had were facebook syncing and contacts being tripled and gps in searching for a location while in house, but GPS worked FINE when I was on the road. wish i had a car dock for it at the time but will eventually get one.
OP, if you knew of these reasons, such as lag or because of the gps not working properly, then why did you buy it in the first place? i dont think barnes was getting at you, but damn dude, someone's sensitive. no one told you to buy it despite some of the imperfections the phone has. its like people saying sony shouldnt have released the x10 with 1.6 but rather have froyo but they still buy it. and if your response is to root it to get 2.1 or 2.2, i dont think the avg. customer for phones would have any idea of what you are talking about.
you cant please everyone on here. alot of people on xda either want to be a mod or just bump stupid posts because they didnt get an answer within 3 hours.
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In that respect I did mess up.
Was expecting the Captivate to rock my socks off but all it did was make me mad due to the GPS issue.
I didn't know of these problems until after my phone arrived.
Its stupid for Samsung to not get those fixes out asap as that is their flagship phone.
I heard the X10 is very close to getting Cyanogen on there.. definitely a major advantage there vs. the Samsung development that's going on

if cyanogen is working on the x10, then the x10 will have alot of potential.
did you switch back to tmobile since you're back to using the g1?
btw, how often were you using the gps on the road? give the vibrant a chance, im sure the kinks will be worked out.

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if cyanogen is working on the x10, then the x10 will have alot of potential.
did you switch back to tmobile since you're back to using the g1?
btw, how often were you using the gps on the road? give the vibrant a chance, im sure the kinks will be worked out.
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The X10 does seem like a better choice for now mainly in part to the CyanogenMod potential.
Im still on AT&T, Ive closed my account with T-Mobile.
I was using the gps on a regular basis thats why it had to be refunded as a replacement was more than likely to have the same issue.
Samsung has always had a bad track record with updating thier phones and I didnt want to be stuck waiting for an update that may take too long to be relevant.

I've just gotta jump in with my $.02 right quick here...
Not trying to piss anyone off, but damn you all cry too much! IT's A PHONE!
And on top of all that, it has an Operating System on it! So essentially, it's a COMPUTER! And what do computers have????? ISSUES!
So, quit *****ing. Flagship phone or not...It's going to have issues. It's a new device. Duh. haha
Basically, when it comes down to it, if a device were PERFECT in every standard, then EVERYONE would have one. And sense there is no such thing as PERFECT, good luck.

tribalartgod said:
I've just gotta jump in with my $.02 right quick here...
Not trying to piss anyone off, but damn you all cry too much! IT's A PHONE!
And on top of all that, it has an Operating System on it! So essentially, it's a COMPUTER! And what do computers have????? ISSUES!
So, quit *****ing. Flagship phone or not...It's going to have issues. It's a new device. Duh. haha
Basically, when it comes down to it, if a device were PERFECT in every standard, then EVERYONE would have one. And sense there is no such thing as PERFECT, good luck.
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Yeah its a phone that should work my G1, HTC Shadow all work with gps and they are old phones compared to the Samsung Galaxy S.
If you prefer not to hear my advisement to everyone about this phone, DONT CLICK ON THE THREAD!

legend, so you're using the g1 on at&t's network?
the captivate is using bing, correct? there's no google maps on there? maybe that was the problem.
i guess im fortunate to have my gps on point when i'm driving, but once i eventually root, etc, then maybe the gps will lock in almost my exact point, and not off 1 or 2 blocks.

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legend, so you're using the g1 on at&t's network?
the captivate is using bing, correct? there's no google maps on there? maybe that was the problem.
i guess im fortunate to have my gps on point when i'm driving, but once i eventually root, etc, then maybe the gps will lock in almost my exact point, and not off 1 or 2 blocks.
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AT&T network, Yes I am.
The captivate is using Google Maps but has the option in using AT&T's version of it and they both were not working.
I tested how many GPS satellites it picked up through the LBSTestMode menu and it got me no where even if there were 1 or 7 available.
Once rooted it was the same story unfortunately even with all these workarounds on xda and other sites.

Further proof that the Samsung GPS issues continue....
See Samsung Facinate review released for Verizon on SEP 9, 2010 here ------->> http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-Fascinate-Review-review-r_2529-p_4.html

Swapping my SGS with a new one.

So I've got one of the many Vibrants with the flaky GPS, and none of the fixes out there seem to improve the problem. My local T-Mo store is understanding and quite willing to swap it with a new one since I'm still within the 14 day policy. The only catch is I want to put the phone as close to stock as possible before I do the trade so they can't say it was something I did to it. Right now I've rooted deodexed, and I've got clockwork ROM manager going. I've also deleted almost all the stock cruft and swapped the calendar / camera apps. Because I was so eager to make it "mine", I also failed to make any backups BUT my wife happens to have a totally stock SGS from which I can scavange from but I'd like to do it without having to root it or anything. Is this possible? If not would thread 739091 ("True Stock 2.1 firmware for vibrant"; sorry I can't post links since my account here is still new) get me there?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475&highlight=stock is what you're looking for. Just flash this with Odin and you'll be fully unrooted.

Awesome, I really appreciate that. I'm not timid when it comes to making the phone my own (I was an early adopter of CyanogenMod for my old G1) but I just returned from a deployment and the whole 'scene' has changed a lot more than I expected lol.

Hehe. you might want to give the new T-Mobile Vibrant firmware that was leaked, it fixes the GPS problem (result may vary). Returning your SGS for a new one isn't going to fix your problem. It's not hardware related, its firmware.

An exchange won't fix your GPS issues anyway so you mine as well keep the one you have. Trust me, we try to swap them out customers all the time at my store.... It's a known issue and Samsung is SUPPOSED to be sending us an OTA soon
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ShanDestromp said:
Awesome, I really appreciate that. I'm not timid when it comes to making the phone my own (I was an early adopter of CyanogenMod for my old G1) but I just returned from a deployment and the whole 'scene' has changed a lot more than I expected lol.
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Just want to say thank you for serving.

zephiK said:
Returning your SGS for a new one isn't going to fix your problem. It's not hardware related, its firmware.
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An exchange won't fix your GPS issues anyway so you mine as well keep the one you have.
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Hmmm, quite a few people I'd talked with locally that have the vibrant said swapping worked for them. Is it possible that newer firmware has been released for phones with a newer "birth" date than mine? Then again who should I trust more, people who hardly utilize their phones, or the people who drool over the prospect of new mods and hacks? hehe. I guess I'll just call T-Mo back and let them know I wont be bothering with a swap after all.
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Just want to say thank you for serving.
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Hey, my pleasure. If nothing else, I have the Army to thank for bringing me out to Hawai'i and giving me the chance to meet my now wife hehe.

ALL out of the box Vibrant's have the same firmware. You need to update to the newest firmware version, it works really well. GPS is better than it is on my CLIQ.

I dunno, i've heard reports of GPS working perfect out of the box for some, and the new firmware doesn't seem to do much for my GPS,
10m accuracy at most unless I leave gps on for about an hour and maybe i'll get 6-7m accuracy, but driving, it SKIPS, (still at 10m) instead of gliding along like my G1 did.
So i'm considering perhaps swapping mine.

QwertyAccess said:
I dunno, i've heard reports of GPS working perfect out of the box for some, and the new firmware doesn't seem to do much for my GPS,
10m accuracy at most unless I leave gps on for about an hour and maybe i'll get 6-7m accuracy, but driving, it SKIPS, (still at 10m) instead of gliding along like my G1 did.
So i'm considering perhaps swapping mine.
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10M of accuracy is not bad and if you want to get technical, GMaps interprets the data differently. What shows in GMaps as 10 meters will show up as 7 under GPS test. I've got my Vibrant here at 6 Meters under GPSTest and 10 under GMaps. Get a grip people.

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Get a grip people.
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I wont speak for Qwerty, but in my case I was LUCKY to get 10m accuracy; usually the best I could get was 40m; usually after 5-10 minutes of 'searching' and when you're driving an unfamiliar city such as Washington DC Like I was this past week, 40m is far too inaccurate for navigation. Your 'get a grip' is completely tasteless and uncalled for in this thread.
That said, I took zephiK's advice and just flashed the new 2.1 (thread 780935), and I must say its a lot better. I can get a 10m fix indoors in less than 5 seconds from a cold start (EG without GMaps knowing where I am at all); before being indoors I would never get less than a 1000m 'fix'. As soon as I get mine fully tweaked, I'll be sure to flash my wifes phone as well since she's got the same issue.

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I wont speak for Qwerty, but in my case I was LUCKY to get 10m accuracy; usually the best I could get was 40m; usually after 5-10 minutes of 'searching' and when you're driving an unfamiliar city such as Washington DC Like I was this past week, 40m is far too inaccurate for navigation. Your 'get a grip' is completely tasteless and uncalled for in this thread.
That said, I took zephiK's advice and just flashed the new 2.1 (thread 780935), and I must say its a lot better. I can get a 10m fix indoors in less than 5 seconds from a cold start (EG without GMaps knowing where I am at all); before being indoors I would never get less than a 1000m 'fix'. As soon as I get mine fully tweaked, I'll be sure to flash my wifes phone as well since she's got the same issue.
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No thats what im saying about.. He does have the update on his Vibrant
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Anyways, Qwerty I just hope you get lucky with your swap and get a working gps and hardware recovery.I've been poking around and quite a few people are saying some of thenew vibrants have issues getting into recovery and down load mode
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Yeah, i'm still considering doing the swap, sometime this week, perhaps even today, got up this morning, and phone was off, (Charging Battery Symbol on the screen),
I'm not running any of the custom roms nor am i OCing. Just worried if I do the swap I may end up with even more problems. I don't know what it is with the Samsung phones, if perhaps a lot of the phones have hardware problems or what. I have only used the original stock rom, and the leaked samsung rom.
I don't mean to be picky with my phone, but I remember my 2 year old G1 getting easily 3m lock as soon as i open up the maps inside my room, and navigating with it, was extremely accurate as well. I also never had restart issues with the phone, till after dropping the thing really hard, and then even the restart thing went away.
Today, I'm lucky to get even 40m lock again, on that same leaked updated firmware. My gripe with the samsung vibrant is that there seems to be some sort of hardware problem with the phone and samsung is not saying a thing about it.

I'm telling you guys... don't bother with a swap... I work in a very high volume store and have seen almost every customer come back with GPS issues. We won't even swap them anymore for customers because TMO has listed it as a known issue, and Samsung has announced the firmware update soon... A swap WILL NOT fix the issue, but if you decide to swap it, don't go whining to us our TMO about how you "keep exchanging it and none of them work..." They know this, and YOU know it.

My 1st gen Vibrant, advice

Hello,
I really love the screen on this phone, the hardware capabilities (720p rec, etc.) and although newer and better processors in phones are coming out I like this 1 enough to hold me over for a long time.
so here is my issue:
I purchased my vibrant about 2 weeks after came out, and the biggest problem I faced initially was the problem with the gps. At this point I have not even use gps is the first month I bought it, instead I just use google maps in follow the directions it gives me.
Since that time, I have rooted my phone. I was really happy to get the first update that was rolled out, even though it was rooted. I have heard of all the difference solutions to fix the gps but is it really worth the effort to practically void my warranty even further than rooting it by opening it up and trying to solder whatever antenna is in there.
Now I know my phone is covered under samsung warranty. I should also mention the other big problem I have with it is the battery life. If I can fix these 2 issues I would love the phone forever.
here's my question:
is it feasible and worth the effort to get my phone returned back to samsung so that the battery and gps are of the newest generation?
does anyone have experience doing this and how willing is samsung to work with me?
Finally if I do end up getting a replacement then I know I will have to un root my phone before I send it to samsung. I'm not stupid but I just haven't flashed any roms before. if I did get my phone back to stock settings, then would I lose all of the applications and I paid for and all the customization I have done to the phone (contacts, accounts, data)?
also just curious but I haven't received the 2.2 over the air update yet am I even going to get it since my phone is rooted? I figure I may as well try 2.2 before I actually send in the phone.
I know these are a lot of questions but I really like this phone and I want to get it to work.
thank you and I appreciate any suggestions or advice for me.
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New and old Vibrants alike have GPS problem.
I don't have an answer to all your questions, but what I can tell you is that you should not wait for your phone to update to 2.2 because it is an over-the-air update.
Follow these instructions if you want to update your phone:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Samsu...-upgrade-to-Android-2-2-Froyo-now/td-p/678871

As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.

if I unroot and go back to stock is it going to erase my applications and contacts, and settings?
I bought it online so I would have to send it back to letstalk.com, I'll have to check out the return policy.
thanks for the replies.
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You will not lose your paid apps, they are tied to your google account. Use titanium backup before you unroot your phone to backup all your data, including app data. When you get your new phone, you will have to reroot and then you can restore everything from titanium.
You can try to get a warrantly replacement from Samsung rather than using letstalk, I think it's a pain to exchange with them, but I'm not sure.

As said above, Titanium backup will handle it. I have my phone from someone on this board, so I had to go directly with Samsung. Once I could get the tech support person to understand the phone just didn't work it was easier. Don't know how that would go with the GPS. Mine was for the phone not working as a phone, ie, no connection to the network.

zharptitza said:
As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.
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I find that to be incorrect. My Vibrant has a 11.01 (2011 January) build date on it and the gps is horrible. I've tried every rom, but I do notice the gps being a little more better with certain roms.
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Here is my story:
I phone up t-mobile and say my GPS doesn't work. They made me go through a four day dance trying stuff, but if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
They then replaced it with a brand new phone.
And they charged me $10 shipping & handling for the new phone.
Before the phone never could reliably get and hold on to a GPS lock; afterwards it locks in seconds and never drops.

Hmm, threads I had seen were saying it was better. I have an older one that I just fixed myself. I was hoping they'd gotten their act together and fixed their antenna construction. Its such a simple thing to fix, you'd think they'd do it at the plant.

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zharptitza said:
As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.
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False, I've personally used Vibrants made after 10/10 and the GPS is no better than ones produced earlier.
There is no change in hardware, and it has never been proven that a hardware revision on the GPS was made on phones manufactured after 10/10. Just speculation and rumor.

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False, I've personally used Vibrants made after 10/10 and the GPS is no better than ones produced earlier.
There is no change in hardware, and it has never been proven that a hardware revision on the GPS was made on phones manufactured after 10/10. Just speculation and rumor.
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Yeah, I think I've got to agree on this one.
In the gps case, I really think it is really a hit or miss issue. My gps works pretty decently but my hubby's doesn't work at all. Even when we were both stock, I could lock on some birds but his was never able to. On top of that, when I flashed Nero onto my phone, my gps got even better. Granted, I don't think it would ever see a thing if it was working on standalone; but with wireless networks on, this thing would (and has) pinpoint(ed) me on a moving train accurately.
Aside from firmwares (now), the only difference between them was the build dates: his - 07/10, mine - 09/10.