Is the Expo's video recording quality as good as Viewty? - eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ General

About two or three phones ago I had the Viewty and the videos I recorded were such good quality...so I was wondering if the expo had the same? Im sure it prolly doesnt do the 120fps recording but im not so worried about that as I am just normal videos...

hold on a sec here... the viewty shot at 120fps? wth... can we port that cam software to the expo anyone?

Yea it had the option of 120fps...it was really amazing quality slow motion when you played the video back...you needed a lot of light tho...no audio
But im just wondering about the normal video recording...I looked back at some videos and realized they were better quality than my N95!

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Video Recording at 30fps?

Hi, I am very curious about the new iPhone's ability to record video at VGA 30fps having only a 3.0 MP camera onboard. If that is possible for iPhone 3G S, would that not also be possible for HTC Dream? Is this a software issue or a hardware issue? I always thought that VGA recording is only possible for phones with 5MP quality or something.
Would appreciate if someone can explain to me this part of Video Recording. Thank you!
The mega pixels really doesn't have anything to do with the frames p/s recording rate. While something of a better quality can be achieved at 30 p/s I would not think it too essential for a phone and 24 is more than adequate. If one is trying to shoot a movie, then I would imagine that a video cam would be a little better I think it is really just hype... ooooh my iPhone can record at 30 frames p/s ... trust me it's not a big deal really.

720p recording and bad audio quality

I know the people here are very talented and I hope someone can help. I had high hopes for the video recording on this phone. When the reviews came out I was very disappointed in both the pic and video quality. Every 8 mega pixel camera phone out there beats it. Even the 1 year old Omnia HD. I can live with the pic quality but the video quality is what really frustrates me. Yea it records in 800x480 but whats the point if its pixelated and washed out. Not to mention the highest frame rate it can go to is 26fps. Ohh and the audio quality is horrendous. When the Omnia HD came out it also suffered from bad audio quality but in a later update they addressed the issue. Most phones coming out now record in AAC audio which the Incredible obviously doesn't. I just wish someone can up the frame rate to 30fps, give the video a higher bitrate, and change the audio to AAC. IF you have spare time can you unlock the 720p recording.

Slo-mo, low quality and bad sound syncing

Since I cant post videos at the moment please do me a favor and try this out and see for yourself.
Does the slow motion resolution look a lot less than 720p? I recorded a regular video in 720p as well just to compare and it looks a lot better than in slo-mo mode
Also, when viewing a recording it'll start at normal speed like usual, I then select the part of the video I want slowed down which works great but then when the video goes back to normal speed the sounds are way off, for example I was juggling a soccer ball and while the ball was in the air you'd hear the kicking sounds. hoping there's a fix for this.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the OnePlus 6 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Please , do a mini test of the microphone in a loud environment, I´m interesed to Switch to this phone, thanks.
Is it right when you record 4k 60fps it very laggy or stuttery video.....thats because theres isnt any stabiliozer.
I am really thinking buy Oneplus 6 ....but if the 4k 60fps videos are so bad i am off.
Earlier i had a Huawei p10 its was also stuttering video
xalodogan said:
Is it right when you record 4k 60fps it very laggy or stuttery video.....thats because theres isnt any stabiliozer.
I am really thinking buy Oneplus 6 ....but if the 4k 60fps videos are so bad i am off.
Earlier i had a Huawei p10 its was also stuttering video
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It uses OIS for 4k60fps according to the AMA
I got oneplus 6 today and recorded my son on 4k 60fps. It is really a great camera. No stutering. Video turned out great
Here's an OIS and EIS explanation on the OP6.....
https://youtu.be/bdcld2ux-tA
So you are absolutely not expering any stutering with 4K 60fps like Video below
https://youtu.be/bdcld2ux-tA
Its stutering because of OIS. Very weird
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kodrnusa said:
I got oneplus 6 today and recorded my son on 4k 60fps. It is really a great camera. No stutering. Video turned out great
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xalodogan said:
So you are absolutely not expering any stutering with 4K 60fps like Video below ?
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I made video 4k 60 fps siting down. My kid moved around and video was fine. No stutering at all.
I 'll make some more testing tomorrow ?
I think this should answer all questions. Only recorded in 1080p 60fps mode, but I was mainly looking for the audio quality. And from my perspective, that time has come where OnePlus 6 can record concerts, may not be perfect, but I can live with it ??? My life is now complete.
https://youtu.be/kzfOoWah7E4
Guys I am still waiting my order to be delivered
Anyway I heard that you can only capture max 5min video on 4k 60fps is that correct?
salihss said:
Guys I am still waiting my order to be delivered
Anyway I heard that you can only capture max 5min video on 4k 60fps is that correct?
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Yes
One Plus 6 Slow Motion 240 fps 1920 x 1080 Full HD
Video created using the fast camera option (slow motion) of the new OnePlus flagship, the OnePlus 6, as a source. Recorded at 240 fps with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 Full HD.
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I'm gonna have to ask again about the loud environments video recording. The 5t will either distort or lower the volume to the point of being unable to hear anything and then gets loud again. My Moto's never had an issue like that, and nor do, dare I even say, most iPhones.
Really worried about it because I want to upgrade but not if this issue isn't nixed. Ideally, a festival, concert, or nightclub would be great to try this in.
My OnePlus 6 is on the way
See if the camera is better then OnePlus 5?
I tried to capture "Night time" timelapse vs normal video on OP6, but was not happy with the results.
Normal Video is almost dark at times.
Here they are :
The sound during video recording at concerts is superbad. If this is a factor, don't get it.

Anyone know a way to stop the camera from upscaling the video recording resolution?

This has been bugging the hell out of me since I got this phone. All the reviews made such a huge deal out of the phones camera quality and capabilities. But upon using it myself.. I am not all that impressed. When I record a video in say 1280x720, the resulting video always looks like it was recorded in say 800x450 or something along those lines. No matter what bitrate I choose, it looks like a lower resolution. You can't zoom the video hardly without it degrading. Go ahead, try zooming on some text in 720P. Now compare it to 720P on some other phone. Now, when I record in say 1920x1080, the resulting video looks like it was recorded in 720p, not 1080.
I have 720p videos I recorded from my Galaxy S4 that look FAR FAR better than so called 720p on the V20. It seems like the camera on the V20 is UPSCALING the video recording output to the next highest resolution than what is ACTUALLY being recorded. 720p appears as 480p, 1080p appears as 720p etc. As someone who is picky about quality, this has been a major blow since I got this phone. I am surprised no one has ever posted about this.
THE-COPS said:
This has been bugging the hell out of me since I got this phone. All the reviews made such a huge deal out of the phones camera quality and capabilities. But upon using it myself.. I am not all that impressed. When I record a video in say 1280x720, the resulting video always looks like it was recorded in say 800x450 or something along those lines. No matter what bitrate I choose, it looks like a lower resolution. You can't zoom the video hardly without it degrading. Go ahead, try zooming on some text in 720P. Now compare it to 720P on some other phone. Now, when I record in say 1920x1080, the resulting video looks like it was recorded in 720p, not 1080.
I have 720p videos I recorded from my Galaxy S4 that look FAR FAR better than so called 720p on the V20. It seems like the camera on the V20 is UPSCALING the video recording output to the next highest resolution than what is ACTUALLY being recorded. 720p appears as 480p, 1080p appears as 720p etc. As someone who is picky about quality, this has been a major blow since I got this phone. I am surprised no one has ever posted about this.
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Iv noticed it, but I brushed it off as I felt nothing could be done to fix by me or other devs that I am/was aware of. Now that I think if it more from your words, maybe could be fixed by overclocking the 4k to 6k, or 8k, to get a 4k resolution. Need root to try this though.
Well, at least I'm not the only one who noticed. Is it the same way on Oreo? I mean, did the update "fix" anything related to video recording resolution or is it still upscaled? (I'm still on 7.0 Nougat for battery reasons, but if 8.0 has a video improvement.. well, game changer). This seems like false advertising meant to try and push 4k capability when it really couldn't. If the camera really isn't capturing 4K, then does that mean it would be too much a burden on the hardware to actually be pulling 30 4k FPS ...VS 30 1080P FPS upscaled to 4K?
Are you talking about the quality on Google photos, or the out of camera quality?
have you tried exporting it to your computer via USB? Cos, for some reason the quality and resolution are lower on G Photos.
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Well, at least I'm not the only one who noticed. Is it the same way on Oreo? I mean, did the update "fix" anything related to video recording resolution or is it still upscaled? (I'm still on 7.0 Nougat for battery reasons, but if 8.0 has a video improvement.. well, game changer). This seems like false advertising meant to try and push 4k capability when it really couldn't. If the camera really isn't capturing 4K, then does that mean it would be too much a burden on the hardware to actually be pulling 30 4k FPS ...VS 30 1080P FPS upscaled to 4K?
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I don't think a burden but more of how's it's coded. 4K on tripod is hard to tell vs 1080p. Note 3 was same way. Oreo cam may be better but I can't really tell. Idk why 16mp is not fully utilized for 4K 16:9 either. Coding that I personally don't know how to do. Slow mo don't even have sound via stock cam.
Lebatman said:
Are you talking about the quality on Google photos, or the out of camera quality?
have you tried exporting it to your computer via USB? Cos, for some reason the quality and resolution are lower on G Photos.
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Camera output. That is, the resulting video file from the camera after pressing record button.
I know there is a loss of quality from compression. But it's not compression artifacts causing this. Bitrate doesn't make any difference. You can clearly see the video detail is not even close to what it says it is. I especially noticed this with text. I was recording a video while in a car. There was a car maybe 1-2 car lengths ahead. One can easily read the license plate. In the recorded 1280x720 video, I could NOT make out the plate at all. You'd thought I recorded in 960x540 or close. It's rather blurry. I think that's why LG added all that oversharpening.
I even set it to take photos at 1280x720. And even with high jpg compression zoomed/cropped, it doesn't look like the 1280x720 zoomed/cropped video of the same exact item being photo'd.
Been using Mark Harmons OpenCamera and trying all sorts of video bitrates. Then changing photo save resolution. I found that a photo resolution of between 960x540 and 800x480 (cropped) looks very similar to what a cropped 720P video appears. It seems as if there is some kind of preprocessing going on with the image that makes it appear extremely muddy (smudged blurry detail cropped). Nothing at all changed with the quality whether the bitrate was set at 5Mbps or 50Mbps. Quality remained unchanged.
Mysticblaze347. I don't think a burden but more of how's it's coded. 4K on tripod is hard to tell vs 1080p. Note 3 was same way. Oreo cam may be better but I can't really tell. Idk why 16mp is not fully utilized for 4K 16:9 either. Coding that I personally don't know how to do. Slow mo don't even have sound via stock cam.
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Sounds like Oreo update isn't worth the trouble. As far as how it's coded... I think it's the awful preprocessing muddying up the image detail as I mentioned above. Using massively high bitrates does no good at all.
4K on tripod VS 1080 on tripod is quite noticeable on the V20 due to the appearance of upscaling (or horrible preprocessing.. whichever it is).
I didn't know Slo-Mo was supposed to have sound. I mean, the option to enable sound would be interesting (say a time-stretched audio instead of slowed down pitch).
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Camera output. That is, the resulting video file from the camera after pressing record button.
I know there is a loss of quality from compression. But it's not compression artifacts causing this. Bitrate doesn't make any difference. You can clearly see the video detail is not even close to what it says it is. I especially noticed this with text. I was recording a video while in a car. There was a car maybe 1-2 car lengths ahead. One can easily read the license plate. In the recorded 1280x720 video, I could NOT make out the plate at all. You'd thought I recorded in 960x540 or close. It's rather blurry. I think that's why LG added all that oversharpening.
I even set it to take photos at 1280x720. And even with high jpg compression zoomed/cropped, it doesn't look like the 1280x720 zoomed/cropped video of the same exact item being photo'd.
Been using Mark Harmons OpenCamera and trying all sorts of video bitrates. Then changing photo save resolution. I found that a photo resolution of between 960x540 and 800x480 (cropped) looks very similar to what a cropped 720P video appears. It seems as if there is some kind of preprocessing going on with the image that makes it appear extremely muddy (smudged blurry detail cropped). Nothing at all changed with the quality whether the bitrate was set at 5Mbps or 50Mbps. Quality remained unchanged.
Sounds like Oreo update isn't worth the trouble. As far as how it's coded... I think it's the awful preprocessing muddying up the image detail as I mentioned above. Using massively high bitrates does no good at all.
4K on tripod VS 1080 on tripod is quite noticeable on the V20 due to the appearance of upscaling (or horrible preprocessing.. whichever it is).
I didn't know Slo-Mo was supposed to have sound. I mean, the option to enable sound would be interesting (say a time-stretched audio instead of slowed down pitch).
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Who wouldn't want sound with slow mo? That's like no sound with regular video lol.
LG also made it to where 4k can barely be done via third party. Gcam can't...Open Cam can. Nothing can be done without root tho. Even then... limitations upon availability and know how. Manual setting is your best bet. Auto is well...auto, so definitely postprocessing will be involved and yes it's not the best, unless fixed with some mod, even if that works. LG hardcoded lockdowns. Camera firmware can be possible tweaked...but I do not know how.

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