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Anyone can put a brief discription and the tools to make your own cupcake rom? Any help will be appreciated. I want to learn to make my own roms as well. Thank you.
It isn't easy as you think.
You must edit the source code.
NiN39Z said:
Anyone can put a brief discription and the tools to make your own cupcake rom? Any help will be appreciated. I want to learn to make my own roms as well. Thank you.
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are you talking about something like the PPC kitchen for windows mobile users?
if so, i was once a winmo guy. before android obviously. In my opinion if you are talking about something like the kitchen to point and click what apps you want your rom to have stock. i think it will be quite some time before we see something that in depth for two reasons.
1. It will require root. which not everyone feels comfortable doing.
2. The people who do have root and are flashing roms probably flash roms as soon as haykuro, the dude, or JF drops something. we cant even make up our minds about what rom we want yet lol.
In thought of the second reason it would be a great idea to have a "kitchen" type program for the PC that people can just point and click what rom they want the pc to push to the phone either by way of ADB or update.zip methods.
Plus on top of that... its not like there is anywhere near the amount of apps that winmo has to choose from just do do the same things.
again... in my opinion. it will be quite some time. Till then... (and more importantly back to your question) At the moment, the only way to build a rom is to compile it yourself. Check out all the reading you can do at www.android.com and get an idea of what you are getting into. Id love to see more people getting into development.
Yea i wanna compile my own rom actually. SO, I wanna get a breif discription and find the tools for it
www.android.com
happy reading.
I was thinking of getting a 2nd G1 as a 'test subject',,,, wouldent be a total waste of £165 quid, and then if gives me something real to develop on and troubleshoot on the fly
£165? Where'd you get that figure from???
And on the making your own cupcake ROM, you should follow the thread about compiling from the latest source for your phone, you'll learn a lot there and eventually get used to compiling your own aplications. Learn a bit of java and you'll be able to edit the source, get some custom apps working.
Thanks for ur input guys.. Im learning java development in college next semester so, ill be cooking up andriod roms after that for future devices
Easiest way to make your own rom atm with minimal technical knowledge is just taking a rom from JF, haykuro or thedude, unzipping them and adding/subtracting things that you want (adding a theme, removing or adding certain apps, adding tweaks, adding onscreen keyboards, etc). You then sign the file and put it on your phone.
Use this to sign the update (must have the SDK):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473580
I know. This is the hero forum. But if anyone has a droid or knows someone with one maybe we can get a dump?
Forgot to, post the link
Http://alldroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=567
awesome! i'd expect you goons to have vanilla 2.0 ready for the mass sprint crowd by tomorrow right? lol isn't a dump all we'd need? pardon for my ignorance but what changes would be made to be compatible to the cdma hero?
Excellent! Now we just need a full rom dump (not just the /system folder which is all that's available right now).
flipzmode said:
Excellent! Now we just need a full rom dump (not just the /system folder which is all that's available right now).
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I could use those apk's to build a "fuller" AOSP... that is assuming data can be made to work.
Thats what I'm hoping for. So please everyone who has access to a droif, root it and get a dump for us. Please
I was excited for droid users to find out it had been rooted. Now I am really excited because I didn't even think of the benefits it would bring to us!
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Excellent! Now we just need a full rom dump (not just the /system folder which is all that's available right now).
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Request made @ AllDroid
http://alldroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=570
WhiteWidows said:
Request made @ AllDroid
http://alldroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=570
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Sweet. Post back here if they provide it please. I can only watch so many forums. heh.
So let me get this straight, a full dump from the Droid will help us get 2.0? If so AWESOME! I have a friend who has one, I'm sure he'll be rooting tonight I can get a dump tomorrow if you don't get one sooner.
NCX001 said:
So let me get this straight, a full dump from the Droid will help us get 2.0? If so AWESOME! I have a friend who has one, I'm sure he'll be rooting tonight I can get a dump tomorrow if you don't get one sooner.
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It's more of a theory than anything. But if we can get their rom booting on our phone then we have a much better chance of getting things working rather than the gsm version we've been hacking up to try and work.
If anyone has access to a rooted droid then let me know. Although it will be much better once they have access to nandroid because pulling these files while the phone is booted up doesn't always work.
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It's more of a theory than anything. But if we can get their rom booting on our phone then we have a much better chance of getting things working rather than the gsm version we've been hacking up to try and work.
If anyone has access to a rooted droid then let me know. Although it will be much better once they have access to nandroid because pulling these files while the phone is booted up doesn't always work.
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I don't think that's true.. our kernel/drivers are way different than theirs.. we will be about the exact same point that we are now, and there are full rips out of the droid now on alldroid.org
nelson8403 said:
I don't think that's true.. our kernel/drivers are way different than theirs.. we will be about the exact same point that we are now, and there are full rips out of the droid now on alldroid.org
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I agree but it's a lot easier to make a trackball work, to make leds work, and to make wifi work rather than trying to make it work on a radio that it wasn't designed for.
The image that the guy posted on alldroid is corrupted. It won't unyaffs. And based on the file size I would say it's just a system dump anyways.
Thanks to whitewidow I was able to get my hands on the boot.img by copying it off of /dev/mtd. The build went smoothly however it reboots instantly after the HTC logo. It is never recognized by the debugger. So this is either caused by corruption from how we obtained the boot.img, or the architecture / processor are just too different to work on ours at all. I am not the type that can build kernels from scratch though so maybe someone out there better than me will get it soon.
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I agree but it's a lot easier to make a trackball work, to make leds work, and to make wifi work rather than trying to make it work on a radio that it wasn't designed for.
The image that the guy posted on alldroid is corrupted. It won't unyaffs. And based on the file size I would say it's just a system dump anyways.
Thanks to whitewidow I was able to get my hands on the boot.img by copying it off of /dev/mtd. The build went smoothly however it reboots instantly after the HTC logo. It is never recognized by the debugger. So this is either caused by corruption from how we obtained the boot.img, or the architecture / processor are just too different to work on ours at all. I am not the type that can build kernels from scratch though so maybe someone out there better than me will get it soon.
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I'm pretty sure stuff compiled for the OMAP arch. Droid is not going to work in our Qualcomm arch. Heroes. I tried using "chat-ril" executable from Droid on my Hero and that doesn't work at all. OMAP and MSM have their own kernel trees as well, so their kernel probably won't boot on the Hero.
It's OMAP alright.
You wont get any of the normal binaries to run.
You can however grab some apks from it.
There is a dump out already btw, has been for almost a month now.
There has been a system dump yes but we are talking about a full dump including the boot.img file.
Boot image contains nothing useful for our purposes.
If you absolutely have to have the boot image someone posted it over on alldroid.org.
is it possible to get the new lockscreen from newly updated droid as verizon has spreaded 2.01 update for droid? cheers
Got a chance to play around with this today. Pics of the phone and system dump below.
This is NOT an update.zip, but it can be used to build one in capable hands. So don't go sucking my bandwidth please!
http://koushikdutta.blurryfox.com/Android/flan.tar.gz
nicccce going, i like the pics.
awesome!
If it helps I uploaded it over at
http://android-devs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84
I've got unlimited bandwidth so hopefully that'll take some of the strain off yours!
Thanks!
Nexus One Dump?
I'm a little surprised this isn't up here yet. There is a dump floating around rumored to be Nexus One. You can find it at AndroidSPIN.com.
Has anyone poked around at all?
It's right where it should be in the Development and Hacking > Android software development forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600190
I've had a quick look through this and found some interesting files.
Most notably, something called 'GenieWidget.apk'.
When are non blurry camera's going to hit the market? Nice dump though hopefully this will get ported to the Behold II....*cough*
like @wpbcubsfan said there is already a topic about that in the right section : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600190
New boot animation : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAFSEsEZnnE&feature=player_embedded
Do you try to push the apk in another device or do you think it 'll need some modification of some files ?
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Do you try to push the apk in another device or do you think it 'll need some modification of some files ?
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They need to be resized and odexed or whatever so it can run on your G1/mytouch or whichever you have. Theres this script in the G1 section that does deodexes or something.
Ace is right. The sizes are to big for dreams and magics. is there even a way to resize the files? also, custom roms are going to become harder now that there are different sizes for phones, but im guessing cyanogen is going to make roms for the neXus
aw, i was kinda hoping that this would be in a .img format so we can load it up and play with it in the emulator
SDK Emulator
Is there anyway I can take this dump and use it in the SDK emulator?
to devs: FIRST ONE TO PORT ISNT A ROTTEN EGG!
Yes, this is the Nexus One.
The boot animation works without modification on the Droid.
Could anyone provide boot.img also
Our guys have been trying to push some of the apk's but not had any luck so far. Has anybody got any apk's from this onto any other build yet?
I tried with my phone and the emulator, but I am a newb. Most of the new apks require Android 2.1 by the way.
if you tried the same method of installing the new maps fex week ago? they modify a file to let G1 thought it was on 2.0 kernel or 1.6 don't remember (system or settings files don't remember) after that the apk works on G1 and we can find it via the market. ask MLIGN he made the change.
So during the time was ban on XDA for flaming Noob. I have had the time to take a rom of my liking and personalize it to what I believe to be the perfect rom, well for me at least. Now that have everything all together I want to share my creation with the world and Good people here on XDA. But I have no idea how to make everything in to a DOT .zip file. I need help and I was wondering if anyone would care to help me.
What will be included in the rom:
GB launcher2
Galaxy tab TWlauncher clone
OC 1.2ghz Kernel w/ universal lagfixes
Gingerbread style theme w/ a little color
GPS fix
swype
Gb keyboard w/ working vibration and sound
boot-animation.zip
Avatar Movie app
Sims3 app and sims3.apk
Rom manager
Xda app
Root explorer
Superuser
New market app
Android 2.2.1
and more.....
This rom will be a mix of Eugene and masters roms so all thank goes to them and a couple other people on the forum.
Thank You
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So during the time was ban on XDA for flaming Noob. I have had the time to take a rom of my liking and personalize it to what I believe to be the perfect rom, well for me at least. Now that have everything all together I want to share my creation with the world and Good people here on XDA. But I have no idea how to make everything in to a DOT .zip file. I need help and I was wondering if anyone would care to help me.
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Hi. I think you'll find a lot of support on XDA for building your own ROM and/or for theming. You've covered a lot of different areas in terms of what you want to do. I have a few recommendations.
1. Do a quick search, either here or in Google, on how to build Android ROMs. There's a lot of good information out there and some of it might resonate with you in terms of how they explain things. That said, if all you're doing is changing a few files around; files you already have, then you would simply add them to, or replace the existing ones from a ROM you like. Just be sure to connect with the developers of that ROM so you can give credit where credit is due. Or, you could start with the Stock ROM and do it that way. But, in either case, you would be essentially using WinZip or some similar app to build the .zip file as you'd like to see it.
2. Consider hooking up with one of the existing developers and start making contributions to their work. That would give you a chance to work with some of the best people who are already doing what you want to do. I think in that case, it wouldn't take too long for you to come up to speed on who they've approached things. Also, this helps you from making some novice mistakes that I'm sure they've made along the way.
Lastly, consider the "value add" of your ROM over those that are already available. If you build something and no one has heard of you and then they don't see your ROM as having anything better or different to offer, then people might not want to use it. For example, Team Whiskey has Obsidian. Then they released Onyx. However, Onyx was materially different than Obsidian in that they removed a lot of the TouchWiz based theming and T-Mobile applications. So, a lot of people saw value in that.
Anyway, good luck. I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun!
This thing sounds quite nice! Would you be interested in posting the 2.2.1 build you got your hands on and the GB KB with Vibration? I haven't seen either of those elsewhere.
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This thing sounds quite nice! Would you be interested in posting the 2.2.1 build you got your hands on and the GB KB with Vibration? I haven't seen either of those elsewhere.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845162
updated version has vibration
accidently hit thanks
sader2202 said:
So during the time was ban on XDA for flaming Noob. I have had the time to take a rom of my liking and personalize it to what I believe to be the perfect rom, well for me at least. Now that have everything all together I want to share my creation with the world and Good people here on XDA. But I have no idea how to make everything in to a DOT .zip file. I need help and I was wondering if anyone would care to help me.
What will be included in the rom:
GB launcher2
Galaxy tab TWlauncher clone
OC 1.2ghz Kernel w/ universal lagfixes
Gingerbread style theme w/ a little color
GPS fix
swype
Gb keyboard w/ working vibration and sound
boot-animation.zip
Avatar Movie app
Sims3 app and sims3.apk
Rom manager
Xda app
Root explorer
Superuser
New market app
Android 2.2.1
and more.....
Thank You
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First, google WINRAR and download it.
Then select all your files, right click and click ARCHIVE and then choose location, name, and wait until its done, and it'll be in a .zip.
Root Explorer is not a free app, so you may want to reconsider adding that as part of your ROM.
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Root Explorer is not a free app, so you may want to reconsider adding that as part of your ROM.
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Oops thanks for the heads up. I've been using it so much that i forgot that i brought it.
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First, google WINRAR and download it.
Then select all your files, right click and click ARCHIVE and then choose location, name, and wait until its done, and it'll be in a .zip.
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Thanks i had that install in my pc. thanks again.
xriderx66 said:
First, google WINRAR and download it.
Then select all your files, right click and click ARCHIVE and then choose location, name, and wait until its done, and it'll be in a .zip.
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wannagofast said:
Root Explorer is not a free app, so you may want to reconsider adding that as part of your ROM.
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Following the steps above, able to get him to do his ROM.
So this thread is no longer necessary!
Thanks for the help and feedback of all!
Closed Thread!
Ok, I'm loving Gingerbread, but m-deejay has been including Cyanogenmod in his recent builds, which I don't want.
I'm REALLY keen to work on my own Gingerbread build...but need pointers on the steps I need to take.
I want to use a clean custom Nexus One Gingerbread build, such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885784
Then I'll have to replace the Nexus drivers and stuff with the HD2 ones...this is where the problem starts...how do I know which files are needed for HD2 specifically?
And then I need to add/remove apps etc to customise it?
I don't want anyone to hold my hand, just to at least point me in the right direction, as finding this information seems to be very difficult, unlike Windows Mobile cooking, which has lots of good tutorials...even though I'd expect that to be the other way around
I taught myself WM cooking & dev, but this is a whole new ballgame to me....
Appreciate any help I can get...
I'll happily donate a few $ to anyone who can help me get a stock build going...
No one able to shed ANY light? Give me ANY pointers?
Like I said, I'm willing to donate $ if I get help to get a ROM built...
Good pointers!!!
Have you tried with this tutorial?
SEE THIS!!!
This is the best step by step guide, and there is everything you need to port/make good working ROM for LEO.
Regards.
NemanjaLO said:
Have you tried with this tutorial?
SEE THIS!!!
This is the best step by step guide, and there is everything you need to port/make good working ROM for LEO.
Regards.
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Yea I saw that, thanks...only problem is that it's an old build, and it's miui.
Where do I find the latest drivers etc? And how is a NAND build different? How do I package up a NAND ROM?
I was thinking the very same thing but when I started looking into it I got put off by the complexity and the time it would take.
Have you thought about just modding MDj's ROM, stripping it back to bare ginger and replacing the bits we dont want, this might be easier that building one from scratch.
Yea, it's a possibility...but I won't learn as much doing it that way...and I'd rather try to create my own than use someone else's hard work as a base, if you know what I mean.
I have time, and am willing to learn as much as I need to...I just need some pointers...there are plenty Android HD2 chefs now, surely one of them is willing to help out
It's really not that difficult. I didn't really like the CM mod either, so created my own stock rom. I'm now at the point where I got it all working. I don't mind to give you a helping hand if you really are interested.
I'd love to see this too!
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It's really not that difficult. I didn't really like the CM mod either, so created my own stock rom. I'm now at the point where I got it all working. I don't mind to give you a helping hand if you really are interested.
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Hey,
yes I've VERY interested...I'm hoping to get a stock-ish one together with my own little touches...maybe release one if I learn enough about it.
Any help you can give would be much appreciated...
Even to start with, a list of the basics...ie get ROM dump, extract xyz, do this...anything at all...
I just got back from a swim at the beach to relax, intending to come back and try to figure it out on my own with what help I can get from that page linked above...but if you have managed to get one together, thats even better
This might be of some use for windows users (I've successfully tried extracting MDJ's Gingerbread system.img with it).
http://android.modaco.com/content/z...-boot-recovery-system-userdata-kitchen-ready/
yea extracting is easy...but I would prefer to use a clean build to start from, rather than m-deejays...trying it using the guide in the link above with the Nexus S dump...having to use some donor files from m-deejays build though...still trying to get my head around it all
Well I gave it a quick try using the above guide, and it gives "NAND Kernel Open Fail".
I used m-deejays kernel, and put all the relevant files into the correct directories before making the system.img, and i put initrd.gz and zimage into boot.img, so I dont know what I did wrong...?
You don't use system.img on nand. You need to create a yaffs.img. Which I've never done before. I've only made builds the sd way, not nand. Maybe all you have to do is rename the .img after you create it. You should jump on irc, room #htc-linux-chat. You would get your answer in like 5 secs;p
NAND ROMs do use system.img, have a look in any NAND ROM, you'll see system.img, boot.img and the flash files.
Yaffs is the filesystem...I created the img files with the "mkyaffs2image" command.
(As per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897940)
I've made all of these but get the damn kernel error...it can't be difficult, lots of devs have released ROMS...surely someone is willing to help?
I'd rather not go into irc, as thats the dev channel isnt it? Dont want to be a noob popping in asking hwo to cook Android for the HD2
i think what would be a cracking idea is if someone were to create 3 "standard" kitchens for anyone to download and start modding with.
kitchen 1) desire / desire HD with NO mods
kitchen 2) Froyo / gingerbread with NO mods
kitchen 3) Froyo / gingerbread with Cyanogen included
they should just be 100% stock but able to build a fully working rom. This way everyone can start to learn, and its always easier with a complete kitchen and just as educational - moreso as you get to see the correct layout for files / directories and all the correct tooling is already in place.
I will add to davids "donation" pot if someone were to make these available, whatever david is willing to donate and i will add another $20 (US) or £15
Whether they be Windows or Linux based kitchen does not matter to me, but i believe that android being open source these resources should be made available
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Your right, not thinking clearly from all the jack daniels. You do need yaffs tools to mess around with the system.img though...#htc-linux is the dev channel. #htc-linux-chat is where you go to ask questions. Devs don't even go in that channel. Just chefs fire the most part. That's where everyone goes to learn how to build.
g.lewarne said:
i think what would be a cracking idea is if someone were to create 3 "standard" kitchens for anyone to download and start modding with.
kitchen 1) desire / desire HD with NO mods
kitchen 2) Froyo / gingerbread with NO mods
kitchen 3) Froyo / gingerbread with Cyanogen included
they should just be 100% stock but able to build a fully working rom. This way everyone can start to learn, and its always easier with a complete kitchen and just as educational - moreso as you get to see the correct layout for files / directories and all the correct tooling is already in place.
I will add to davids "donation" pot if someone were to make these available, whatever david is willing to donate and i will add another $20 (US) or £15
Whether they be Windows or Linux based kitchen does not matter to me, but i believe that android being open source these resources should be made available
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Yea, something like that would be handy...but even to start with, I'd just love to know the basic processes needed to get a basic Android build running on the HD2, without having to rely on someone elses current build.
I tried the link above, and it did sort of help understand a little of whats going on...but this stupid kernel error is preventing me from knowing how my test build works/or doesnt work...
I mean I had too use m-deejays gingerbread dump to get some of the driver files etc from...but where does he get them from? Thats the stuff I dont know...
It's obviously not overly difficult as there are so many devs pumping out HD2 ROMs...would just love one of them to share the secrets
Cash - not sure ... depends on how much help I get, but I'm willing to donate along the lines of US$20 or so...
mattfmartin said:
Your right, not thinking clearly from all the jack daniels. You do need yaffs tools to mess around with the system.img though...#htc-linux is the dev channel. #htc-linux-chat is where you go to ask questions. Devs don't even go in that channel. Just chefs fire the most part. That's where everyone goes to learn how to build.
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hehe...
What server is that chat room on?
the_scotsman said:
NAND ROMs do use system.img, have a look in any NAND ROM, you'll see system.img, boot.img and the flash files.
Yaffs is the filesystem...I created the img files with the "mkyaffs2image" command.
(As per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897940)
I've made all of these but get the damn kernel error...it can't be difficult, lots of devs have released ROMS...surely someone is willing to help?
I'd rather not go into irc, as thats the dev channel isnt it? Dont want to be a noob popping in asking hwo to cook Android for the HD2
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Is it possible that the img files need to be created as ext4 rather than yaffs? I know gingerbread runs on the ext4 system (where froyo ran on yaffs2) but I'm not sure how this relates to building the rom.
Nah, don't think so...not accroding to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897940
Ive tried a few more times but am still getting the kernel error...so I cant even test if my build works or not as it wont even boot...so very frustrating...
Lets break it down........
1st
Here's a brief intro I did a few days ago read it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897940&page=2
The above goes for any .img used with DAF, they are yaffs2 images.
2nd
The sensible option for a clean build would be an existing stock gingerbread rom on a sister device. AdamG just happens to make the cleanest Desire roms around. I've had my eyes on this build for a minute, check it out and see if this what your looking for. Oxygen v2.0-RC6
3rd
I've been able to unyaffs disect, reassemble and get some 'customized' roms running. They flash, boot, & work great.....but I lose root permissions. lol
I was acutally doing this with the 1.6 NAND rom of MDJ that came as a single.img
That particular file was just system.img & boot.img yaffs2'd together. After I disected it I was able to unyaffs the 2 images and edit/modify change kernels, etc. etc. The only problem I have run into is the root issue.
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I'd be glad to help out any way I can in porting a ROM worthy of our devce
Any serious inquries can be directed to my inbox for private discussion on gtalk .
I'm no dev and am in no way claiming to be. I do have some findings and that's why I'm offering my help. Cheers