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How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
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bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
manuelcalavera said:
bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
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Its not only bigger screen... its also bigger resolution (By 25%)...
If its another type of screen, it could even have better performance at less ennergy consumption
Great video tough i can't undestand that language either.
atomikpt said:
How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
Thanks
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I don't understand what you mean.
the maximum of vids you can play (or lets say that the screen will show you) is ofcourse its own resolution. So you will not see real HD videos as this screen has not got a real HD resolution. But its own resolution is no problem for the CPU. Playing a movie with a bigger size, will just downscale the video to the resoultion of the HD but as there is more data to process, it may slow the CPU more down, depending of how big the movie is. but you would not want to play a 1080p video on this anyway as it would just use up huge amount of storage space, but doesn't look better. You will get the best and sharpest images if you convert your movies to the exact resolution of the screen.
Oh I understood your point, cause you probably use PocketDivXEncoder..
I was just comparing with HTC Kaiser.. On videos as well as other stuff, it sucked.
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
donbronzi said:
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
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i cant imagine that the HD as any problem with videos. It often just highly depends on the play. Windows media play is crap in playing videos most of the time. But even my old Compaq Ipaq could play videos very smooth.
Some players are faster then others.
language is czech
I thought it was Czech!!
But can you translate that part?
I think that it isn't very fluid the streaming..
Sometimes we notice some delays.. On my Diamond I can see it too..
atomikpt said:
How do you think HD will be playing HD videos?
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to answer the original question, no it will not be able to play HD videos.
HD by definition is at least 720p, that's 720p or 1080p by today's market distribution, may be later on, there will be some weird resolution at 960p or something like that. but right now HD video are only available in 720p or 1080p
1. the video chip is not powerful enough to decode HD content,
2. windows mobile 6 doesn't support HD content
3. Touch HD only has screen resolution of 800x640, again far from HD
4. CPU isn't power enough to decode HD content (even a full desktop/laptop 500 MHz cpu isn't enough to decode, let alone a stripped down mobile cpu.)
im sure that this "HD" will have some serious problems on playing good resolution videos ...
man , qualcomm's 528 Mhz is the CPU of htc diamond, and they let that beast to have this heart on his chest ! its not fair
I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=3fAROWXVQiw&feature=related
Look at 7 min, he shows a youtube movie wvga quality. It doesn't play very smooth either. Let's hope its because of a bad connection or something.
And lets not forget that the units floating around as preview units did carry unfinished ROM and early-stage drivers
Lucas0511 said:
I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
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oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
buggybug0 said:
oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
Raziel1 said:
it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic.
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i am thinking of the OP's original question "can HD play HD videos" of course i understand the resolution of this phone and the video it will play.
so i dont know what you are thinking posting without reading the entire thread.
my post, which you quoted was wishing for playing good video at a decent frame rate. sure you can play videos on your 6 year old ppc, but try play, say a jet li movie on there, all his actions are a blur because the framerate isn't fast enough to capture all his kungfu actions. dido for sports videos. you understand now?
and if you are confused regarding why the OP want to watch and HD video on a non HD display, well i can tell you it is possible to put a video with higher resolution on a device which lower resolution display. it will just be upto that CPU to decode and shrink the video. suuurree, it doens't make sense, but it's do-able.. uptill a certain point (resolution), above which it will be too heavy and too much work for the CPU. and if you want to ask why, well i'm guessing 1. the OP was mislead by the phone's name Touch HD, 2. he may not have the time or software or doesn't want to reprocess the movies to 800x480.
and if you are still confused after reading all that.. well... ummm... LOL
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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Aye but i'd love to seen a flawless WGVA streaming video....
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that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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technically i disagree, but from a practical standpoint, sure, i'll go with that. those net videos doesn't require much processing power to decode, very little load on cpu.
Raziel1 said:
it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem.
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Traditionally speaking, all HTC devices have very poor video playback .
Till the latest batch of VGA Devices (Diamond and Touch Pro) which i have no access to and hence cannot comment upon, all previous VGA devices had problem playing back video ENCODED AT THERE NATIVE RESOLUTION. (for reference, have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324371&highlight=video)
the best i could manage was a 532x300 xvid with a bitrate of 800-1200.
so it will be a very pleasant surprise if the HD can playback video encoded at 640x480 leave alone 800x480.
On a side note, since HD will be pretty similar to the Diamond / Touch Pro , you could probably ask your friends to run a benchmark with different resolutions and bitrates.
Hi, A big problem I had with the iPhone was the video compression when streaming video in applications such as youtube.
I thought there would be less or no compression on the Nexus One since the higher resolution makes the video look even more appalling and I can't even make out what's happening.
I was wondering whether there was an option or an app which lets me disable this or lessen the compression so that I can actually make out what's happening in a video rather than staring intently at blocks and smudges. (forgive me for hypocritically pointing out the irony that that's what we do: [pixels and colours])
once you choose a video in youtube press Menu > watch in high quality. and prepare to be amazed.
Yeah the HQ videos look amazing, i havent tried other sites yet. The video adobe put out of flash running on Android looked pretty damn good too, cant wait for that.
is there any way to get it by default to always go to high quality
not that I know of.
After i set it to HQ its played all the videos in that format as far as i can tell, obviously it depends on the quality of the video the person uploaded
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once you choose a video in youtube press Menu > watch in high quality. and prepare to be amazed.
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Thanks for that, the videos look amazing!
But what about things like the BBC Iplayer app, and images on the web?
browser images are not compressed at all. I dont know about iplayer i never tried it.
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Hi, A big problem I had with the iPhone was the video compression when streaming video in applications such as youtube.
I thought there would be less or no compression on the Nexus One since the higher resolution makes the video look even more appalling and I can't even make out what's happening.
I was wondering whether there was an option or an app which lets me disable this or lessen the compression so that I can actually make out what's happening in a video rather than staring intently at blocks and smudges. (forgive me for hypocritically pointing out the irony that that's what we do: [pixels and colours])
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The bitrate of a given video stream in a given app has next to nothing to do with the native resolution of the screen you display it on.
Specifically, most mobile video streaming app will ask for a low bitrate (highly compressed, grungy looking) stream when they detect that the device in not on wi-fi and will request a higher bitrate stream when on wi-fi, if you are lucky (I.E. in the android youtube app) they will let you override this automatic choice.
I.E. video quality is a function of the source streams available, the app requesting/displaying the stream and the bandwidth available on the device's network connection.
Only _after_ all of that is it possible for the screen to make much difference (and they generally don't).
melterx12 said:
browser images are not compressed at all. I dont know about iplayer i never tried it.
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Hmm, this sucks. According to my brother all UK networks compress images and videos (presumably so they don't have to upgrade their basestations/backhaul anytime soon ¬¬), with the possible exception of Three UK as they have the largest bandwidth available in the UK.
I guess there's no way around that, unless there's some sort of proxy or something?
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Hmm, this sucks. According to my brother all UK networks compress images and videos (presumably so they don't have to upgrade their basestations/backhaul anytime soon ¬¬), with the possible exception of Three UK as they have the largest bandwidth available in the UK.
I guess there's no way around that, unless there's some sort of proxy or something?
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Thats right Three UK doesn't as i get same quality of the video as on WiFi.
I have 720p movies ripped from original disc to MKV on my desktop. How do I watch these 720p movies on my EVO? Is there an easier way to put movies on my EVO?
Another question, when I go to YOUTUBE.com on my EVO, all the videos look blurry and are horrible quality... Even when I do a search for 720p quality videos, when I play the video it looks horrible... What am I doing wrong?
What audio/video codecs were used during the encodong?
With youtube, click the HQ button. That should increase the quality.
i have also set youtube to high quality from the setting but still no 720p videos even after the HQ on.
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What audio/video codecs were used during the encodong?
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Nevermind, I got this program called doubletwist and it rocks!
Now I need to figure out how to play Youtube videos in HD... Whenever I am on Youtube, I do NOT see the HD so yeah...
amot said:
Nevermind, I got this program called doubletwist and it rocks!
Now I need to figure out how to play Youtube videos in HD... Whenever I am on Youtube, I do NOT see the HD so yeah...
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The Evo doesn't have support for HD video. What you're looking for is the HQ button, which stands for high quality. Not all videos have the HQ button enabled.
amot said:
Now I need to figure out how to play Youtube videos in HD... Whenever I am on Youtube, I do NOT see the HD so yeah...
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Sounds like you may be browsing to YouTube. Instead, go to "All apps" and open the "YouTube" app.
It all depends on the videos themselves. For example, lookup any new movie trailers and set the app to HQ, they should look spectacular.
Remember, Android still doesn't have a quality video player akin to CorePlayer for WinMo.
The device itself (correct me if I'm wrong) does not support playback at 720p on its own screen; it outputs 720p via the HDMI port.
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The device itself (correct me if I'm wrong) does not support playback at 720p on its own screen; it outputs 720p via the HDMI port.
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You are correct--720p is 1280x720 and the EVO's screen is 800x480. So it will play 720p video, but scaled down to fit the EVO's screen resolution.
As far as playing video on the EVO screen, I think it will play any resolution (although you may get performance issues at very high resolutions) but scaled to fit the screen.
What programs are you guys using for ripping? Just curious...
Handbrake cya
settings
handbrake.
Aspect ratio: 800 x 480
Video codec: H.264(x264)
Framerate: Same as source
Avg Bitrate: 1500
Addio codec: AAC(faac)
Audio mixdown: Stereo
Sample rate: 480
All other settings stay at default. Videos come out crazy!! I got Avatar and Iron Man
Ripping blu-ray since the screen is higher res then DVD. Using rip264 and anydvd.
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Ripping blu-ray since the screen is higher res then DVD. Using rip264 and anydvd.
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quite a fan of this myself anydvd HD isnt cheap tho unless ur using cracked version they had update for avatr BD day after it was out worked great for me i have over 1.7TB of movies and TV shows in mkv or avi mostly mkv h264 i would like to play on my Evo when it comes in is there a like VLC or KMplayer type that will play these files on the android OS if anyone does know of such software whether paid or free id appreciate it
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quite a fan of this myself anydvd HD isnt cheap tho unless ur using cracked version they had update for avatr BD day after it was out worked great for me i have over 1.7TB of movies and TV shows in mkv or avi mostly mkv h264 i would like to play on my Evo when it comes in is there a like VLC or KMplayer type that will play these files on the android OS if anyone does know of such software whether paid or free id appreciate it
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It's not cheap, but I figure that is the cost of having the freedom to copy blu-ray to my other devices. It would be nice though if it was a one time cost, but alas it is not.
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What programs are you guys using for ripping? Just curious...
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What OS you on? On my Macbook I use Handbrake, and VisualHub.
Hi guys, I see a lot of GB roms mentioning YouTubeHD, yet I can't seem to get it to work, I get the HQ button that's always been there, but not 720p, any ideas?
Well, mobile HQ isn't 720p either. I don't see why you would want 720p in the first place, your phone doesn't have that many lines?
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Well, mobile HQ isn't 720p either. I don't see why you would want 720p in the first place, your phone doesn't have that many lines?
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I'm quite aware of both of those things, but it has been mentioned that YouTube works in hd for the HD2 running Gingerbread. And I know from my own testing that a 720p encoded movie looks a lot nicer on the HD2 than a 800x480 encoded movie.
Uhm I haven't heard of any of that, and Google doesn't hint anything in that direction either, I think you're confusing some stuff. A lot of roms support 720p playback, but not in Youtube.
720p in se doesn't look beter than a 480p video by the way, on the contrary. You don't see the lines your screen can't show, and actually this may even result in a slightly worse video because of it.
A well encoded 480p video is at least as good as a 720p video, problem is that a lot 480p conversions suck. But that's not because it's 480p, it's because of the conversion.
That's why I don't think we'll ever have 720p mobile video. It's just wasted bandwidth over a nicely encoded 480p.
Oh, and I think Youtube HD just refers to the revamped app. Not 100% sure though so don't quote me on that.
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Uhm I haven't heard of any of that, and Google doesn't hint anything in that direction either, I think you're confusing some stuff. A lot of roms support 720p playback, but not in Youtube.
720p in se doesn't look beter than a 480p video by the way, on the contrary. You don't see the lines your screen can't show, and actually this may even result in a slightly worse video because of it.
A well encoded 480p video is at least as good as a 720p video, problem is that a lot 480p conversions suck. But that's not because it's 480p, it's because of the conversion.
That's why I don't think we'll ever have 720p mobile video. It's just wasted bandwidth over a nicely encoded 480p.
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Totally 100% agree. There would be more chance of performance issues with a downscaled 720 video on a 480 screen. It DOES NOT look better than a properly encoded 480 video. It is not physically possible for it to look better as your screen cannot show anything more than 480 pixels in each of the 800 columns. End of.
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Oh, and I think Youtube HD just refers to the revamped app. Not 100% sure though so don't quote me on that.
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I'm quoting you
Nah mate - it is the HD functionality in the "recent" update that gives it the name.
Damn Britts!
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Damn Britts!
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Can the Xoom play Youtube 1080p or 720p videos ? I'm not interested in 1080p or 720p movie or video files playback. I want to know if the Honeycomb Youtube app has the option to play 1080p or 720p videos. The last time I checked a Xoom and its Youtube app in the store, it just had a HQ option, I couldn't find any option to select 720 or 1080p's. Please suggest. I spend lot of time on Youtube and I need this feature. It is one of the critical features, that helps be decide to go for the Xoom or not. Thanks.
I believe once the final version of Flash 10.2 is out the Xoom should be able to play 720p Smooth.
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I believe once the final version of Flash 10.2 is out the Xoom should be able to play 720p Smooth.
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Thanks for the reply.But, is there an option in the Youtube app to play 720p or 1080p ? I know there is a HQ option in the Youtube app, and I have that in my Android phone too. What I'm looking for, is the option to play 720p or 1080p videos within the Youtube app.
go to youtube app search 1080p they run great.
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Thanks for the reply.But, is there an option in the Youtube app to play 720p or 1080p ? I know there is a HQ option in the Youtube app, and I have that in my Android phone too. What I'm looking for, is the option to play 720p or 1080p videos within the Youtube app.
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Well After you get Flash 10.2 you could always just go to Desktop web version of Youtube and Play a 720p video like that too see how performance is.
Ty the Jackass 3d 1080p trailer on the youtube app, really rocks.
Just an FYI hi def video doesnt work well over 3G. Use WiFi for best results
rjoudrey said:
Ty the Jackass 3d 1080p trailer on the youtube app, really rocks.
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Don't have a Xoom yet. I wanted to find out about this feature, before I decide to get one.
Srikar_NBK said:
Don't have a Xoom yet. I wanted to find out about this feature, before I decide to get one.
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To answer your question, yes & yes.
rjoudrey said:
go to youtube app search 1080p they run great.
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sorry but how do you know if its even playing in 1080p? its either HQ or not. just sayin..
i don't think its even necessary to run a 1080p clip on a 800p device.
aohus said:
sorry but how do you know if its even playing in 1080p? its either HQ or not. just sayin..
i don't think its even necessary to run a 1080p clip on a 800p device.
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It says its 1080p? Try this one:
http://www.tools4movies.com/2011/03/xoom-720p-1080p-high-quality-settings/
can I rest my case?
720p is more than adequate.
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It says its 1080p? Try this one:
http://www.tools4movies.com/2011/03/xoom-720p-1080p-high-quality-settings/
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did you really need to post 3x in a row? coulda been combined into one post.
anywho, we were discussing 1080p playback on Youtube, not a 1080p file being played natively on the xoom.
just because on the youtube title its marked as '1080p' doesn't necessarily mean its being played in 1080p. its most likely playing in 720p, can't confirm, but theres no point in playing a 1080p file on a 800p device. thats all im really trying to get at.
I'm pretty sure it can, set you browser agent to iPod, go to youtube website and search for 1080p, it will play any of those HTML5 streams in 1080p. Make sure you add
&fmt=37
At the end of the URL. That's youtube code for 1080p
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720p is more than adequate.
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If someone is connecting Xoom to a TV 1080p could be useful.
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did you really need to post 3x in a row? coulda been combined into one post.
anywho, we were discussing 1080p playback on Youtube, not a 1080p file being played natively on the xoom.
just because on the youtube title its marked as '1080p' doesn't necessarily mean its being played in 1080p. its most likely playing in 720p, can't confirm, but theres no point in playing a 1080p file on a 800p device. thats all im really trying to get at.
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Just answering the OP jerk.
1080p runs great on mine
I can play 720p mp4 videos fine. I haven't test any 1080P.
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im ppretty sure the youtupe app dowsres's stuff to 480p just like when you go to the browser version and full screen a video it goes to 480p. Even though the title says 1080p
Edit: I stand corrected it looks like 720 in the app.