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Can anyone get their hands on the TouchFLO UI CAB so we can give it a try on the Athena? The functionality was released on the HTC Touch in the UK. Maybe someone can get the CAB off of the HTC Touch and we can give it a try on our Athenas.
http://www.htctouch.com
Check out the TouchFLO try me link at the bottom of the page.
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Can anyone get their hands on the TouchFLO UI CAB so we can give it a try on the Athena? The functionality was released on the HTC Touch in the UK. Maybe someone can get the CAB off of the HTC Touch and we can give it a try on our Athenas.
http://www.htctouch.com
Check out the TouchFLO try me link at the bottom of the page.
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Now that is nice. Especially if it worked in landscape on the Athena.
Indeed. Very interesting.
I'll be looking for it too.
HTC's Touch is QVGA....
From what I've read of the specs, the HTC Touch is a QVGA device without 3G!
If the Cube Touch software is anything like the QVGA HTC Audio Manager I've seen, it will look pathetic on the Athena.
IMHO, it needs to be in a VGA device before it's worth considering installing it to the Athena and preferably a device with similar if not same hardware and software features, in order for all things to be accessible through it's interface.
Having said all that, I read somewhere recently that the Advantage comes with HTC Audio Manager (supposedly no better or worse than WMplayer), but at least natively VGA.
The Touch GUI looks great, but I know one thing for sure, if it lives up to the hype and actually allows better and more intuitive navigation through finger-touch, you can bet your bottom dollar that some big software developers like Spb will be on the bandwagon to produce an even better variant of it.
Great for the rest of the PPC community, whether VGA or QVGA.
May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php
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From what I've read of the specs, the HTC Touch is a QVGA device without 3G!
If the Cube Touch software is anything like the QVGA HTC Audio Manager I've seen, it will look pathetic on the Athena.
IMHO, it needs to be in a VGA device before it's worth considering installing it to the Athena and preferably a device with similar if not same hardware and software features, in order for all things to be accessible through it's interface.
Having said all that, I read somewhere recently that the Advantage comes with HTC Audio Manager (supposedly no better or worse than WMplayer), but at least natively VGA.
The Touch GUI looks great, but I know one thing for sure, if it lives up to the hype and actually allows better and more intuitive navigation through finger-touch, you can bet your bottom dollar that some big software developers like Spb will be on the bandwagon to produce an even better variant of it.
Great for the rest of the PPC community, whether VGA or QVGA.
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I want to give it a try. I see your points but am curious about it working and potentially enhancing the UI. From the demo it looked like a nice new toy to have. I'm thinking it's similar to what they did with the iPhone theme where you had the slider lock, etc. If you can at least swap screens and make custom menus using TouchFLO, that would be great. As for the phone it was released on...shame on HTC for putting something like this on such an inferior device ;-)
Nara-e-Mastana said:
May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php
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I don't think so but I could be wrong. For example, the iPhone theme uses slider bars, etc and can be loaded onto the Athena, with a little help of third party software. I hope someone posts the CAB so I can test it out. I'll load it and report my findings if someone can get it.
Nara-e-Mastana said:
May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php
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It isn't multi touch.
Or have I missed something?
ltxda said:
I want to give it a try. I see your points but am curious about it working and potentially enhancing the UI. From the demo it looked like a nice new toy to have. I'm thinking it's similar to what they did with the iPhone theme where you had the slider lock, etc. If you can at least swap screens and make custom menus using TouchFLO, that would be great. As for the phone it was released on...shame on HTC for putting something like this on such an inferior device ;-)
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Gotta agree with you ltxda. I still want to try it too.
i think it would be great. i know there are other softwares that use this interface. so i think ppc is capable but its all about the software limitation.
If were lucky, alan from the HTC Touch post can investigate this for us as he has just acquired such a device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1301886&posted=1#post1301886
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If were lucky, alan from the HTC Touch post can investigate this for us as he has just acquired such a device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1301886&posted=1#post1301886
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That's awesome! Great thinking mackaby007! Can't wait for him to reply and maybe send us a CAB or two.
Bad news so far...
This is what Paul of Modaco has reported so far;
"Random Touch trivia after spending some time today 'digging around'...
- The screen has it’s own new driver version (touch.dll). This means the TouchFLO interface won’t port to other devices. In fact, I tried it - just to be sure - by installing the driver on my Trinity, and the touchscreen stopped working ohmy.gif
- The fancy today screen plugin is just that, and would be easy for HTC to drop onto any device.
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The Touch has a new version of HTC’s ‘Task Manager’ (close button) application, a new Camera application, and a very nifty network wizard for setting up GPRS settings. These settings are held on the device in a passworded ZIP file!
- NO PHONE PAD T9 ON THE TOUCH! What the hell were they thinking? I had a good moan to our HTC about it, and demo’d what Phone Pad would be like on the Touch... wink.gif
- When you boot the device, it does the email config (you know, the one that connects to the server to get settings?) and then the config of the data connection. Duh! Wrong order!
- All the IR drivers etc. are in ROM despite their being no IR port!
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
- Audio Manager, Comm Manager and the Phone Dialler are all grey-skinned to match the homescreen UI. It looks real nice biggrin.gif
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Not looking good at the mo, but let's not give up hope.
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This is what Paul of Modaco has reported so far;
"Random Touch trivia after spending some time today 'digging around'...
- The screen has it’s own new driver version (touch.dll). This means the TouchFLO interface won’t port to other devices. In fact, I tried it - just to be sure - by installing the driver on my Trinity, and the touchscreen stopped working ohmy.gif
- The fancy today screen plugin is just that, and would be easy for HTC to drop onto any device.
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The Touch has a new version of HTC’s ‘Task Manager’ (close button) application, a new Camera application, and a very nifty network wizard for setting up GPRS settings. These settings are held on the device in a passworded ZIP file!
- NO PHONE PAD T9 ON THE TOUCH! What the hell were they thinking? I had a good moan to our HTC about it, and demo’d what Phone Pad would be like on the Touch... wink.gif
- When you boot the device, it does the email config (you know, the one that connects to the server to get settings?) and then the config of the data connection. Duh! Wrong order!
- All the IR drivers etc. are in ROM despite their being no IR port!
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
- Audio Manager, Comm Manager and the Phone Dialler are all grey-skinned to match the homescreen UI. It looks real nice biggrin.gif
smile.gif
P"
Not looking good at the mo, but let's not give up hope.
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If he wants, have him give us the passworded ZIP file. I'll try to crack it.
I guess we'll have to have someone take a look at the dll mentioned above and see what can be done about that...if there is enough interest.
Maybe we could at least have the today plugin? That looks pretty sweet.
Touch.DLL
I Have a T-Mobile Wing, and I have the Touch.dll file in \Windows . . . (Touch.dll 26.9k 3/21/07 21:21.04)
It came that way, does that mean that TouchFlo may work on my device?
2 things i do not like:
mackaby007 said:
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
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pretty dissapointing but to be expected i guess.
Just grab yourself Wisbar, and the graphics file and youll be 2/3rds the way home and hosed to recreating the Interface.
Osir1s said:
Just grab yourself Wisbar, and the graphics file and youll be 2/3rds the way home and hosed to recreating the Interface.
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Well see, we're not trying to recreate the interface, we're trying to get the actual app from the actual source and see if it works. Please try to contribute to the thread instead of making ambiguous statements!
WarezAppz said:
I Have a T-Mobile Wing, and I have the Touch.dll file in \Windows . . . (Touch.dll 26.9k 3/21/07 21:21.04)
It came that way, does that mean that TouchFlo may work on my device?
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Just maybe, you never know. I can't remember which post I read, but I do recall it mentioning that the the screen is a new techology and another report that that would not make it a standard WM6 device (I remember now, a discussion at 4winmobile.com about the HTC Touch etc..). Anyway, that makes sense + fellow member neilm also went on to mention that a lot of current WM5 & WM6 wouldn't work on it as it wasn't written with this type of multi-touch screen in mind.
Fair point I think and follows the logik that HTC haven't built a WM6 device that is incompatible with software written for its O/S. No it's more likely that that .dll is all the software needed to make that plug-in (shell or whatever) interface with any WM touch screen.
So, WarezApps, if you have the .dll by default, it could mean that your device is capable of running the plug-in with the screen driver you seem to have, as they may have considered selling it as a default app within your device, but possibly recognized the potential to knock out another new device (for more money), which will appeal to some people just for this particular touch interface!
I think it will work with that Touch.dll screen driver.
Can you upload your file for us all to share and examine.
Anyway bottom line: I think it's all about transferable software now and just want to try it for myself to see.
Well I would assume that you've already seen the new HTC Diamond.
Is anyone already working on porting that beautiful TouchFLO™ 3D interface?
(I would assume that it is possible since it's just running on top of WM6.1 although I know that it would be difficult since it's for VGA and requires some meaty hardware)
Is it possible to get the Video Drivers of this device's Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz to be used on our MSM7x00 devices?
(I'm sorry if some people get's pissed about hearing this hopeless idea again, but I just had to ask, you know )
Thanks.
Anything's possible, though by the time it hits, a lot of people would have gotten other devices or just have bought the Diamond/Raphael.
--James
The TouchFlo 3d has already been adapted (slightly) but at the moment very few devices have the processor power and the screen size (VGA) for it to work. (Try a search for "manilla")
The video drivers may be possible, but a ROM dump would be needed and AFAIK, that hasn't happened yet...
A Diamond rom dump would be nice to look through to compare with the KS20 dump. But, I haven't been able to find a imate9502 dump from anybody yet, so it's not really helping... Best I got was the 9502 ahi2dati.dll which is about identical to the KS20 one.
I do have a fully ported ahi2dati.dll (you can do some egl* calls such as eglSwapBuffers(), glFlush(), etc) for the Kaiser but there's some spinlocks that I don't understand. It would be nice to get a reference ATI-using WM6.1 DDI.dll to hook up to it and then see what other subsystems haven't been properly ported.
Currently, I've got some of the KS20 TrsTai_extension.dll calls (pm_vid_en()) almost patched in.
Anybody got a handle on what smem.dll does?
HI,
is it possible to install windows in htc hero instead of android soft. I tried to search but couldnt find anything thanks
BR Sherry
may i ask you why you want to do that???
I think he is just curious to know
yes someone was saying its possible and wanna know if yes or not if yes can anyone explain how?
br
there is even an easier way to get windows mobile OS: buy a WM Device!
Really a HTC Touch Diamond 2 has basically the exact same Hardware other than the touchscreen which is resistive.
Wanting to flash your android device with WM is as strange as the currently release WM Theme for android.
People are buying android devices to get rid of the old stuff (wm 6-6.5) why on earth would they want to install a WM Theme?!
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
there is even an easier way to get windows mobile OS: buy a WM Device!
Really a HTC Touch Diamond 2 has basically the exact same Hardware other than the touchscreen which is resistive.
Wanting to flash your android device with WM is as strange as the currently release WM Theme for android.
People are buying android devices to get rid of the old stuff (wm 6-6.5) why on earth would they want to install a WM Theme?!
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i agree, it´s like to buy a dog and want to make a cat out of it
but anyway i´m sorry i haven´t seen a method/tutorial how to make this
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
there is even an easier way to get windows mobile OS: buy a WM Device!
Really a HTC Touch Diamond 2 has basically the exact same Hardware other than the touchscreen which is resistive.
Wanting to flash your android device with WM is as strange as the currently release WM Theme for android.
People are buying android devices to get rid of the old stuff (wm 6-6.5) why on earth would they want to install a WM Theme?!
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thanks for ur reply but still it doesn answer wt I asked
br
Almost every people here is against windows mobile, so I don't think you will obtain an answer, sorry.
Lots of thread were started asking to run windows on these phones (sapphire and dream) and they always ended up wit people saying this is a stupid question.
My opinion is that it would be interesting, such as dual booting in your home PC.
I really wanted to get rid of wm because it stinks. it is slow i have to SR almost everyday it crashed etc. etc.
but now i'm using android my phone works great fast responsive. never needed to restart the phone and its on.
why trading the good stuff for the bad stuff. i used wM/Windows for years and i was never pleased with it now i'm using linux (on pc/hero) and its great IT WORKS so why would you wanna use wm.
youre question technically it would be possible the wm phones have the same hardware. but i think noone succeeded to install wm or viceversa. wm phones can start android but doens't work 100% and when the phone goes off they loose the data
Rather than just bashing WM (which of course I could do) I will state facts.
Android has been hacked to work on WM phones, such as the Vogue, Kaiser, Polaris, Raphael, Diamond, etc. This has been possible because Android is a UI that runs on top of Linux. Linux and Android both being open source, we have the program code for the entire OS at our disposal to change around, hack drivers, and make work on non-Android hardware.
Windows Mobile is (almost) entirely closed-source. This will make it pretty much impossible to run on a phone that it's not licensed to work on. Microsoft and HTC would have to both agree to running WM on the Hero before you'd see that happen.
EDIT: @commodoor: Yes, the hardware appears to be the same, ie. the same chips, but there will be intricate differences like memory addresses, IRQ's etc that would make this darn near impossible to achieve.
Just my tuppence worth...
I thought with the Hero having a capacitive screen that it wouldn't be able to run Windows... Thought the OS was limited to resistive screens... or am I wrong?
faisal_sherry said:
HI,
is it possible to install windows in htc hero instead of android soft. I tried to search but couldnt find anything thanks
BR Sherry
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Nothing against the poster of the above but REALLY? Putting WM on the Hero seems like the most EPIC FAIL of all time. (I wish we had a facepalm smiley to put in here).
But constructively - from what I understand, putting Android on a WM device is relatively easy (for someone with the knowledge, patience and experience) but putting WM on an Android device is almost impossible.
Technically it would be possible to do... if HTC have drivers for WinMo to talk to the Hero hardware and Microsoft gave HTC a license to put it on the phone... but that ain't gonna happen any day soon.
But then again there exists a whole lot of skilled hackers that can make any toaster run whatever they want it to run... But then again WinMo is closed source. And the skilled hackers don't know how to make any drivers.
And WinMo is a really boring OS. I have an old HTC TyTN (the first one) with WinMo 6 Pro on it. It was really boring to use since the market for that phone was the business people and I am not a business-minded human. I wanted a little more flexibility and a nicer UI to configure the way I want it.
Android + HTC's Sense UI (actually TouchFLO) is giving me that kind of freedom.
Oh... sorry for going really offtopic on this one.
To give you the short answer to the original poster; no you can't. Theoretically yes. Feasible... no.
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people have given answers.....and ill close before a flame war starts.
thank you
Hi there!
Could anyone owning a HD2 check how SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 is running on it?
Software Trial:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html
That's an interesting question. I have just put SPB MS 3.5 on my TP and it completely disabled my Touchflo. If that were to happen on the Leo then I would think it might stop the capacitive screen working.
I've had MS on every windows device I've ever owned (5 of them) yet this might be the first time I stick with TF3D....the new 'sense' as it's being called looks so good it might just be the thing that I want.
TF3D was all form and no fucntion, it was far to difficult to perform any real use and just increased the number of presses and swipes needed to actually do anything. The new one doesn't seem to suffer the same thing....but I'll only be able to tell once I get my hands on it
Tomo1340 said:
If that were to happen on the Leo then I would think it might stop the capacitive screen working.
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Why would it stop the screen working?
vangrieg said:
Why would it stop the screen working?
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WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
Tomo1340 said:
WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
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the start menu works as well as the other native microsoft screens. I doubt sense has anything to do with the screen actually working. IN fact, there are devs ripping sense out of there and making a lite version of the Leo ROM as we speak.
mallman said:
the start menu works as well as the other native microsoft screens. I doubt sense has anything to do with the screen actually working. IN fact, there are devs ripping sense out of there and making a lite version of the Leo ROM as we speak.
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What would a lite version of the Leo ROM actually include if Sense is ripped out?
Tomo1340 said:
WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
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TouchFlo is ONLY a front screen interface and in no way takes over the control of your device from Windows Mobile. Im sure the correct drivers and everything are in place to make the capacitive screen work perfectly with WM6.5 or you wouldnt be able to run any of the standard Windows Mobile Programs from the Start Menu.
TouchFlo can easily be disabled through the Today screen settings and other front screen interfaces such as Mobile Shell run in its place. The 2 cannot run side by side but as with any other phone you can turn 1 off and start another quite easily.
The only problem with newer Windows Mobile versions such as 6.5.1 is that they have a menubar at the bottom for easy operation of the Start Menu, ok button and other things. From my experience this menubar isnt disabled when Mobile Shell is installed meaning that it overlays the bottom menubar in Mobile Shell, which in turn causes problems. Im sure spb will fix this problem as WM advances and adds more touch friendly functionality.
The things that said capacitive on WM was unsupported are utter rubbish. What it requires is an OEM to write drivers for it. Since HTC have done this, it's supported.
Manila is just a UI enhancement, it's not anything to do with the screen, the drivers etc.
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The things that said capacitive on WM was unsupported are utter rubbish. What it requires is an OEM to write drivers for it. Since HTC have done this, it's supported.
Manila is just a UI enhancement, it's not anything to do with the screen, the drivers etc.
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But it's a UI enhancement designed to increase usability on a device with a capacitive screen. Without the new version of Manila you won't necessarily have access to the HTC-skinned versions of WM6.5 utilities, which means you'll be back to using software that is designed to be used with a stylus on a platform that doesn't support stylus use.
I only took a short glimpse into a Leo ROM, and it's different from, say, Topaz/Rhodium ones in that Manila is broken into more packages (Core, Music, Settings, Footprints etc.). So it might theoretically be possible to use just some Manila features if someone bothers to actually investigate the opportunities and do an insane amount work required to materialize them.
Fair comments, I was under the impression that the drivers were part of HTC sense. Also that HTC sense is designed to not be turned off so easy. So from that I drew a natural conclusion that if you were able to turn Sense off, or an application forced it off like SPB MS3.5 does then that would make the drivers not function as they were part of the working Sense UI.
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The only problem with newer Windows Mobile versions such as 6.5.1 is that they have a menubar at the bottom for easy operation of the Start Menu, ok button and other things. From my experience this menubar isnt disabled when Mobile Shell is installed meaning that it overlays the bottom menubar in Mobile Shell, which in turn causes problems. Im sure spb will fix this problem as WM advances and adds more touch friendly functionality.
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On my TYTN2 with WM 6.5.1.23053, there's no overlay with MS3.5. Not sure what build of MS you are using but for me it's just fine.
I have tested MS3.5 on Acer F1 (same CPU as HD2) and it was very smooth. However, when going in landscape, it was slower than my TYTN2 in landscape. It could be a graphic driver issue, which I hope won't be on HD2.
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
WildWayz said:
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
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MD2? I think we already sorted out that it will work fine with TouchFLO disabled LOL
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MD2? I think we already sorted out that it will work fine with TouchFLO disabled LOL
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Sorry meant HD2.
I didnt disable TouchFlo - it did it itself.
One thing i've noticed, if you enable hardware acceleration on the SPB, the whole 'carosol' goes slow and unresponsive...
I thought it would be better as the HD2 is meant to use OpenGL?
oh no, not again! no drivers......
WildWayz said:
Sorry meant HD2.
I didnt disable TouchFlo - it did it itself.
One thing i've noticed, if you enable hardware acceleration on the SPB, the whole 'carosol' goes slow and unresponsive...
I thought it would be better as the HD2 is meant to use OpenGL?
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I guess it depends how spb makes use of hardware acceleration enabled devices. With it turned off it should still run very fast and smooth so not too much to worry about i think. You should install one of my MS3.5 themes (in my sig) and see how it looks I think it would look nice with ProPlus Elegance and all the extra widgets
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oh no, not again! no drivers......
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The HD2 has OpenGL drivers as proved in this stress test against the original HD *HERE*
WildWayz said:
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
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Cool WildWayz! Thanks a lot, I'm just happy that it works and doesn't have quirks of one or the other kind
Yes you should try and mess around with some of mskip's stuff if you like
Maybe you can say how the general feel is? Speed/smoothness -how is it on the capacitive screen? And I don't know if you intend to keep on using it -but it would be very interesting to hear if there is an effect on battery life..
cheers!
It might be a stupid thread and stupid question and I believe the ANSWER of it might be …… it will never happen.
BUT
Is it possible? Can it be?
I am not a good fan of Android as I had a lot of problem with Nexus one,
I have been using windows mobile since ages, my first was the IPAQ, Imate PDA2K, HTC cruse, Diamond, HD (BlackStone) and Nexus one < --- just to test Android
I might be wrong judging the Android but here are my notes:
- No X button to close the applications so they just keep running in the background
- No file browser
- It was hard to make it run the WMV and still not good
- I understand in the WM 6.5 no Transcriber and block recognizer, but I think it can be managed
- No today desktop to be customized as I like to see my task and calendar
- Office is not there the way you want
And many manay other issues
Well sorry for the (too much writing) but maybe I could get some help here or people might enlighten me
THX
Honestly I have no idea how to install Wm on that phone...and I would never want to if I were yu...but ur issues don't seem to lye with android...yu just need to do some market browsing because there is a program called advanced task killer that kills apps in the background..it also has a nifty little home widget...yu can also download astro file explorer to search files on ur phone...just like in wm ...there are apps and Widgets for all the issues yu stated...the best advice I can give tho is that if yu want a wm phone...then buy one...hold out for the hd7 and see if someone might trade yu for ur desire HD...hope I've helped..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Thanks for the answer and as I said I already knew it will not be possible, HD with WM7 is close to android, no today screen and it is almost Iphone, I might sound old fashion but I believe it is hard to change things you got used to
I am a Linux user too (Ubuntu Lucid) is what I am using, I believe I will give Desire HD a try and see, maybe I might be able to find a way to install WM on it maybe I give Android a better look and see what it has.
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I might be wrong judging the Android but here are my notes:
- No X button to close the applications so they just keep running in the background
- No file browser
- It was hard to make it run the WMV and still not good
- I understand in the WM 6.5 no Transcriber and block recognizer, but I think it can be managed
- No today desktop to be customized as I like to see my task and calendar
- Office is not there the way you want
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1. No, there is no "X" button, but Android's memory management is clever enough that you don't need one.
2. There are plenty of file browsers available on the Marketplace
3. I assume you mean .wmv videos? Not sure on this one.
4. Not sure about this
5. You can get all manner of widgets for Android that show calendars and you can get task managers etc.
6. No, office isn't perfect, but it's getting better.
If all of this is really a concern for you - why not just get an HD2? It's the same screen size and most of the same features (give or take megapixels, DLNA and a couple of bits and pieces here and there). At least then you can run WM6.5 as default and toy with the Android port which is developing really well in the meantime.
Don't want you to hate me guys BUT i did use the HD2, and here are my notes:
-Battery runs out fast
-don't like the new start menu
-no pen comes with it (i understand that all new HTC don't) i am OK with it, BUT it is not smooth the way you want in HD2.
well i am sorry to cause you headache guys i am really lost here and i do like HTC phones it is just cannot find the one that do serves me as my HD (blackstone) do
The only thing i would spare the HD (BlackStone) is its slowness.
I might consider desire HD and give it a try.
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@jmohik : So you wanna step back in time to WM6.1 ... if you dont like HD2 now... all the new phones (anytime soon now) are start gonna ship with WM7 .... as per your feedback and requirements, I believe you will ditch WM smartphones altogether
Btw...dont know what more do you want from a HD2 which is able to run a WM6.1, WM6.5, WM6.5.5, All Android Builds, and soon WM7 !
As far as battery, I get 1.5 days out of it .... dont expect more from such beasts...if you do, switch to Nokia
as i said ... i don't want you to hate me guys, and i said it is not easy to change things you got used to ....
well .... i will get the desire HD and i guess i will start on using it.
and BTW i also have a NOKIA E75
Thats the spirit !
It'd be far more interesting to know whether its possible to hack a WM7 rom onto the phone, seeing as the hardware looks identical to the HD7 that HTC are releasing.
Don't get me wrong, I'm Android all the way but theres no harm in experimenting!
I think you just need to spend 2-4 weeks with an Android phone running HTC Sense. I used to use a WM6.1 device, then WM6.5 and then moved to the HTC Hero which was on Android 1.5, and now 2.1. Since the first day I got the Hero, I have not looked back at WM. There really is no question about it.
I understand it all comes down to personal preference, but a Linux user like yourself should find Android easier to work with than those who don't use Linux.
As one of the other guys mentioned above, there are plenty of apps on the market you can get for free which do pretty much everything you say you want. The reason HTC don't provide a stylus these days is the screens are now capacitive not resistive, and better suited to fingers and thumbs. You can still get a stylus, but it would cost more.
P.S. I don't really have much love for the stock Android experience, as on the Nexus One... HTC Sense over the top of it is just amazing... in my opinion, but like I said, everyone has their own personal preference..!
i had an HD2 running wm6.53 and Android from the SD card. Dual booting serves no purpose BUT ITS GREAT!!!
I will get this device when its out as my HD2 died. I would love to be able to dual boot to WM7 just to give it a go.
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i had an HD2 running wm6.53 and Android from the SD card. Dual booting serves no purpose BUT ITS GREAT!!!
I will get this device when its out as my HD2 died. I would love to be able to dual boot to WM7 just to give it a go.
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Surely your HD2 is still within its 12 month warranty! I've had mine since it came out, that isn't even a year yet!
No one will put the time and effort in to port WP7 to an Android device, it just won't really be feasible given the amount of people who will actually want it.
Also, I can imagine it being a lot harder to go, given that WP7 is closed source, and Android is open source.