Samsung I5700 Galaxy Spica is available, brings DivX to Android
16 November, 2009
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i5700_galaxy_spica_is_available_brings_divx_to_android-news-1259.php
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Released more than 3 months ago.
So... What's the hold up?
Yes i was wondering that too!!!
I mean when i copy an .avi movie to my phone, the only player that manages to play the file is the yxflash with awful perfomance...so what in the heck ?
There is 1GHz cpu behind this device!
Coreplayer for android is still in the works so we all just have to wait on that.
yxflash plays xvid without any problem in my nexus one
kiowa79 said:
yxflash plays xvid without any problem in my nexus one
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From everything I've read and heard, your experiences are definitely in the very very small minority, as you can see clearly even from this very thread, just two posts above
F i L said:
Yes i was wondering that too!!!
I mean when i copy an .avi movie to my phone, the only player that manages to play the file is the yxflash with awful perfomance...so what in the heck ?
There is 1GHz cpu behind this device!
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When you compile crap it is still crap. Even if you run it on a Snapdragon.
CorePlayer was very good on WinMo, so let's hope they bring it to Android soon.
Coreplayer FTW!
My understanding of the "no Divx" issue, has more to do with Android OS not supporting the codec.
The reason why Coreplayer isnt out yet is exactly this reason. Once theres a codec supporting HW accelleration, then Coreplayer will be released.
cheetah2k said:
Coreplayer FTW!
My understanding of the "no Divx" issue, has more to do with Android OS not supporting the codec.
The reason why Coreplayer isnt out yet is exactly this reason. Once theres a codec supporting HW accelleration, then Coreplayer will be released.
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Yup, and if you go to coreplayers website, they have a blog/forum discussing this... in it, they point out that they have been working very closely with Google on improving the NDK and SDK so that it has native support. Following 2.0/1 being released, they announced it had the graphics and framework, and that they were hoping the next version would/will have the codecs... it also seems it is possible the NDK just needs to be updated, not even the entire OS itself, although that might be a bit dirty for such a huge increase in codec support.
Screw codecs, i want VLC player on my phone.
liam.lah said:
Screw codecs, i want VLC player on my phone.
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VLC isnt even on Winmo...
jz9833 said:
Coreplayer for android is still in the works so we all just have to wait on that.
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I would expect a very long wait if I were you. How long has coreplayer2 been in development now?
bradsh1 said:
I would expect a very long wait if I were you. How long has coreplayer2 been in development now?
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android 1.5 wasnt capable of it due to a crappy SDK.
2.1 with the new developers tools should get the job done, but who knows
liam.lah said:
Screw codecs, i want VLC player on my phone.
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VLC needs codecs too. Its developers just decided to include the codecs with the app instead of relying on the OS's codecs.
That is exactly what the CoreCodecs team is doing btw.
Very easy workaround
This a very quick and easy workaround to divx and xvid.
Download avidemux from here http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/download.html
Then re-code the file, but here's the secret - keep the video as it is "Copy". Change the audio to aac, and re-save it in an mpeg4 containter (m4v). The whole process take about 3 minutes for a full-length 800MB movie. The resulting file can be played smooth as silk in the stock player.
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This a very quick and easy workaround to divx and xvid.
Download avidemux from here http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/download.html
Then re-code the file, but here's the secret - keep the video as it is "Copy". Change the audio to aac, and re-save it in an mpeg4 containter (m4v). The whole process take about 3 minutes for a full-length 800MB movie. The resulting file can be played smooth as silk in the stock player.
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Tried this just now (previously tried with other tools in Jan). Was hoping....but it didnt work
src: XviD(BVOP/Packed Bitstream)/mp3, AVI
dest: (copy)/AAC(FAAC), MP4
The new file plays fine on my PC but only the audio plays on the n1(default movie player and act1 player)
britoso said:
Tried this just now (previously tried with other tools in Jan). Was hoping....but it didnt work
src: XviD(BVOP/Packed Bitstream)/mp3, AVI
dest: (copy)/AAC(FAAC), MP4
The new file plays fine on my PC but only the audio plays on the n1(default movie player and act1 player)
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That's too bad.
But then again, even if it does work, the whole point is that it would be nice to play our videos WITHOUT having to re-encode like Spica-owners can do.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/samsung-galaxy-spica-grows-up-to-android-2-1/
The Spica is now 2.1.
What in the HELL is the hold up?? DivX should have been ported to ANY other Android device ages ago
In addition to changing the container, you also have to change the FOURCC. That is just a 4-character code identifying the video encoding. Your phone won't recognize any stupid crap like DIVX or XVID -- it will only recognize the CORRECT fourcc, which is H263
The hold up is that codecs are part of the framework, and almost all Android video players just use the frameworks video playback facilities. To add DIVX playback you'd need a rooted device.
Additionally, I'll bet the Spica's divx playback is limited to a max resolution/bitrate like Android's h264 support.
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To add DIVX playback you'd need a rooted device.
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I think a lot of people who would want this have root already or (would be willing to) anyway. Plus, there are already plenty of apps on the Market that are root-only.
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How come there are no divx player for this pretty device yet? I tried yxflash but it only played the first 20 secs.
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How come there are no divx player for this pretty device yet? I tried yxflash but it only played the first 20 secs.
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The paid version plays full video
huzz said:
The paid version plays full video
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I know but how come it's not readily available from the box?
Umm this app requires you to give them your IMEI number, i'snt that a bad idea?
i found this post on twitter
"CorePlayer News: CP 2.0 for Android is CPU agnostic. ie; works on any ARM, x86, x64 or MIPS. Now lets try and make it work against 1.5 - 2.1"
so i hope something will happen very soon!
I bought yxplayer, only to have it be very jittery playing AVI files.... So I ended up using Doubletwist to convert and sync the videos to my N1 and this works flawlessly.
However, if Coreplayer comes to the N1, this will indeed be awesome. I was using it on my HD2 work phone, and its top notch, I'd pay double the Winmo version for it if it was to come out on Android!
There is talk of the Bravo playing divx out of the box, so hopefully it can be ported across.
I have an archos 5 internet tablet with android 1.6 and archos has their own hardware accelerated video player its ridicules it plays pretty much every video formats including 720p mkv and 720p youtube videos, and most audio codecs including ac3.
Wonder if someone here could figure a way to port it to the N1.
You can download the firmware/ROM free on their website
jump to 7:00 min in first clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF1IIg-EjmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiCsbXxEigw
also the archos has a 4.8 screen but runs at the 800x480 as the N1
and its specs are lower than the N1
http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
so if it´s true that the upcoming htc bravo will support divx out of the box because of the included nexplayer, it should be portable to the n1 i guess...
source
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009...-support-to-be-enabled-by-nextreaming-player/
There is actually no such thing as "DivX".
What they are selling is actually H.263/MPEG4-ASP and using a BAD VALUE FOURCC.
As a result, ALL players can play so-called "DivX" files as long as you fix the fourcc and package it in a sensible container (i.e. 3gp or mp4). No transcoding is required unless the video uses a bitrate or resolution that is just too far out of the devices specifications to decode.
Repackaging is trivial -- you can just run the files through ffmpeg with -f option to set a sane fourcc and setting the audio and video codecs to "copy".
Yesturday I downloaded from Market YXFlash app, which is a kind of codec for XVid and a few more video formats. My question - if mobilesoft done it, I mean comiped xvid codec for arm on Android, can you - Android hackers do the same and publish here? I would like to say, that YXFlash works fine on my N1.
That would be amazing! Someone has gotta know how
Unfortunatelly I do not know C-family languages at all, so I can not do it my self... I was very sorry of xvid codecs lack in G1, but I understanded that is result of G1 processor limit (MSM7201A), which doesn't support this codec. According to QSD8250 specyfication - it should be possible to do it - to create codec (for coding and encoding) in other formats then h.264.
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Unfortunatelly I do not know C-family languages at all, so I can not do it my self... I was very sorry of xvid codecs lack in G1, but I understanded that is result of G1 processor limit (MSM7201A), which doesn't support this codec. According to QSD8250 specyfication - it should be possible to do it - to create codec (for coding and encoding) in other formats then h.264.
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my TPRO can play divx with coreplayer and tcpmp with msm7201A so its not do with the processor.
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my TPRO can play divx with coreplayer and tcpmp with msm7201A so its not do with the processor.
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Yes, you are right, because I read that mentioned app works also on G1. I think, that thanks Snapdragon support divix/xvid playback should be smoother and faster and not so processor-power consuming (read battery-saving).
This is a pointless discussion.
The codec (enCOder-DECoder) is HARDWARE -- built into the same package as the CPU.
XVid is more properly known as H.263, which is FULLY SUPPORTED by the hardware codec, not only for GN1, but also for OTHER android phones all the way back to and including DREAM.
There are two things *definitely* standing in the way of just playing back an "xvid" video file: 1) Demuxer applicable to the container that the video is contained in, i.e. ogm, avi, mkv, etc., 2) FOURCC -- when using the xvid h.263 encoder, the fourcc will be (incorrectly) set to "XVID" when it *should* be set to "H263". Regardless of this, the chip doesn't care what the FOURCC is, just the media player (which needs to know the stream details in order to set up the decoder chip).
There can be other issues involved in playing back the file... bitrate/resolution exceeding codec limits, audio encoding incompatible, etc.
On a side note the excellent core player should be coming out on android soon enough,they seem to be in testing stages now.
I would be shocked if coreplayer was out for android this year. The s60v5 version has been "in the works" for over a year now I think, and porting from s60v3 should be cake. Coreplayer 2.0 is the DNF of mobile apps
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I would be shocked if coreplayer was out for android this year. The s60v5 version has been "in the works" for over a year now I think, and porting from s60v3 should be cake. Coreplayer 2.0 is the DNF of mobile apps
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sadly, i know what DNF means, lol
timothydonohue said:
sadly, i know what DNF means, lol
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Time to kick ass and chew bubblegum and im all out of gum!
bradsh1 said:
I would be shocked if coreplayer was out for android this year. The s60v5 version has been "in the works" for over a year now I think, and porting from s60v3 should be cake. Coreplayer 2.0 is the DNF of mobile apps
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Is there track record that bad ?
They didnt do the iphone because they were shutdown by Apple.
They keep posting progress including screenshots for Android.
twitter.com/corecodec
http://img158.yfrog.com/i/6zxx.jpg/
They already got sound and UI done, hinted that progress was going better than expected. As for YXFlash... it sucks for certain videos and after 2 minutes, BOOM! tough actin tinactin!
Wow! I guess that the Nexus One being a "Google" branded phone won't get this update:
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...ceive-divx-playback-support-in-future-update/
Very interesting.
I'm sure with that release it will get ported to Nexus if it isn't rolled out by Google.
Good to hear.
If you need root to get that app (if/when it arrives) I would probably have to do it. Was going to keep my N1 stock, but if divx support arrives and it's good I just can't live with stock. Hopefully Coreplayer gets their release out before this so I don't have to do it
Converting files produces excellent results, but it takes way too much time to get good re-encodes (20ish minutes doing 2 passes on a 3.7GHz Quadcore).
The coreplayer looks very promising, but it's NOT free. This divx push would be.
every update can be ported to nexus one
We should be cool with a ported one
ive got 10 street cred that says nexus gets divx support before the bravo is released
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ive got 10 street cred that says nexus gets divx support before the bravo is released
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HEeh I think that once the update is release it will be ported to the Nexus on in less than a few hours.
DivX, like XVid, is simply H263. This is ***ALREADY SUPPORTED***.
Your only stumbling block may be in demuxing the container and recognizing the FOURCC identifier, so if you are having these problems, just remux it!!! You don't even need to transcode!
I have seen this said too many times to count. If that is really the case, why has NO ONE released a divx player? xyflash doesn't count because it is totally broken and barely plays video.
yxflash actually works really well for me.
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DivX, like XVid, is simply H263.
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That is wrong.
Xvid and DivX are implementations of MPEG-4 Part 2 Advanced Simple Profile (ASP).
H263 is a little part of it : it's only one of the possible quantization matrices.
MPEG-4 Part 2 is much bigger and more powerfull than just H263.
So being able to decode H263 doesn't mean being able to decode Xvid or DivX.
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Was going to keep my N1 stock, but if divx support arrives and it's good I just can't live with stock.
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For divx?? i dont see a divx since h264 exist
nenco said:
For divx?? i dont see a divx since h264 exist
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As I said, converting is a real PITA. Been a long time since I ripped my own DVDs to put it that way.
I'm a bit confused on this. What specific content uses this extension? DVDs...?
yostral said:
That is wrong.
Xvid and DivX are implementations of MPEG-4 Part 2 Advanced Simple Profile (ASP).
H263 is a little part of it : it's only one of the possible quantization matrices.
MPEG-4 Part 2 is much bigger and more powerfull than just H263.
So being able to decode H263 doesn't mean being able to decode Xvid or DivX.
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And don't forget to mention the encoding options used for a computer vs. those for a mobile device. Typically the number of consecutive B-frames used can have a great impact upon compatibility for portable players (and even stand-alone DivX players).
There are a lot of variables that can keep people from playing their video collection from their PC on their phones (or other PMP's).
As in the title what is the best app for playing avi, divx and xvid on android?:
OK, I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but you can't play divx or xvid on Android yet. Supposedly future Desire updates will have that.
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As in the title what is the best app for playing avi, divx and xvid on android?:
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Try YXflash
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OK, I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but you can't play divx or xvid on Android yet. Supposedly future Desire updates will have that.
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The Archos 5 Internet Tabled (w/ Android) can play Divx, xvid and mostly any other video format, mkv and HD included. Of course, that is because they have a proprietary player.
The Desire is rumored to get an update soon that will allow it to play Divx files. The hardware is more than capable of doing it!
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...ceive-divx-playback-support-in-future-update/
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Try YXflash
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Thanks i had that on my iphone did'nt realise it was on android too
How well does yxflash work with playing back avi-files on the Desire?
I've tried playing 700 mb video (624x352, bitrate aprox. 1500, framrate 25) on a Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 with yxflash, and it didn't handle it very well. My
Samsung Omnia HD is able to play the file without a problem.
Have installed it on mine and it plays the divx pretty well. Very slightly jerky, but very watchable. It could also be the encoding as it is the only one I have tried so far.
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Have installed it on mine and it plays the divx pretty well. Very slightly jerky, but very watchable. It could also be the encoding as it is the only one I have tried so far.
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i found xyflash on the desire pretty poor. playing a tv show in divx format. very choppy frame rate.
tried xyflash with one film in avi format and seems fine
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tried xyflash with one film in avi format and seems fine
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Odd. Anyway I've discovered doubleTwist now. It's very good. I synced my divx video folder with my phone and as it copies the files it converts on the fly to mp4 format. Works like a dream.
Also, keep an eye out for CorePlayer.
It's in development and sold make an excellent player of al formats for us.
Quite agree coreplayer would be great i am suprised that they have not done it allready.
Keep an eye on this: http://twitter.com/corecodec
Although the coreplayer is in developement, developers of the corecodec stated, that Google's SDK/NDK misses some features for native support, that makes it so hard to bring a final
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2885&start=75
hopefully once the guy who created yxflash gets a n1 or desire tweaks it to run smoothly.
i had yxflash on my g1 and it played most avi's smoothly.. considering the hardware 528mhz to 1ghz - with new gfx hardware also.
even winmobile 6.1 pro on my treo 750 could play avi fine.
Hi ,,,
I think that the Desire can play the AVI ,
I have seen it on a youtube
(the problem, I can not put the link for your guys here as I am not permitted to do so)
you can search it under comparsion between Nexus and Desire.
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Hi ,,,
I think that the Desire can play the AVI ,
I have seen it on a youtube
(the problem, I can not put the link for your guys here as I am not permitted to do so)
you can search it under comparsion between Nexus and Desire.
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No it can't.
Convert you file with mencoder to mp4 and play it on the Desire.
I zipped the necessary files:
mediafire.com/?yx0jbn42qdn
Just drag and drop the file you want to convert on the file convert2desire(.bat).
After waiting some time your file will be converted in the ideal .mp4 format for the Desire.
You will find it in the same directory as the convert2desire(.bat) file.
I will not buy an Android phone before a good .avi/divx player is available. I'm using WM since 2000 and my entire collection of video's is /avi/divx/mkv.
I just couldn't believe my ears when I heard Android (on HTC Desire) can't play those formats.
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I will not buy an Android phone before a good .avi/divx player is available. I'm using WM since 2000 and my entire collection of video's is /avi/divx/mkv.
I just couldn't believe my ears when I heard Android (on HTC Desire) can't play those formats.
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Rockplayerbase (aka rockplayer) works perfectly. It's now in open beta. Search for it.
yep rockplayer works great......no pause at all
Finally, a .avi .mkv player with nice fps. I recommend:
ROCKPLAYER The best xvid divx player on android is now on public beta, expires 15.july. Test it, buy it when its on market, support the developers.
http://www.freecoder.org/rockplayer/RockPlayer_0.2.8_Beta_v6_vfp.apk
I think after Samsung release the Galaxy S we'll get a good media player ported as that can natively play divx xvid and even h264, so it shouldn't be too long, maybe two months or so?
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I think after Samsung release the Galaxy S we'll get a good media player ported as that can natively play divx xvid and even h264, so it shouldn't be too long, maybe two months or so?
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There was a story going round that HTC was going to update the Desire with support for XviD/DivX.
As to H264 - given that H264 is the native video format for Android, we've already got it!
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Dave
I think HTC are saving the goods for the FroYo rollout
Roll on another few weeks!
Maybe someone will port over the Archos 5 IMT media player. It works nicely on Android.
Highly irritating. Google Format Factory in the mean time. Converts divx to mp4.
is there a way someone dump the galaxy s codecs or any codec from android devices that play divx files ???? we have such a powerfull device and we cannot see a movie without converting it...
I honestly don't give a crap about xvid/divx, that's a 20th century format . I want 720p mkv playback/recording
Search for Rockplayer on Google, it plays divx flawlessly.
Mod. edit: This is a beta, the developer didn't consent it's distribution. Publishing it would be posting warez, so better don't.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512
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Search for Rockplayer on Google, it plays divx flawlessly.
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i'll check it out later, i'm getting fedup having to convert everything i want to watch to MP4...
found the APK, its a beta apparently
I think you should delete the link, it not very legit to put this apk on xda forums.
513 said:
I think you should delete the link, it not very legit to put this apk on xda forums.
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yeah your probably right, haha (deleted)
EDIT: just tested it, plays .avi spot on - no more converting
Yep. But now I need a biiger SD card. lol
I'm only using it to play TV shows on the go so if I download something the night before I'll just bung it on my Desire and watch at Lunch when at work
It plays mkv h264 @ 720p too but at 5fps so looks like they need to enable some more Snapdragon acceleration for h.264
I'll stick with converting to x264 in an MP4 container. Just tried this with a normal divx episode, playing it causes 100% cpu constantly.
Takes me maybe 8 minutes to convert it and the MP4 uses around 35-40% cpu power.
Re: Xvid, divx for android
Therock player works almost perfectly why is it leaked and from where it don't seem like a big secret anyway
Sent from my HTC Desire
Searched for 'rockplayerbase' on google, installed and now watching an Xvid full screen @ 24fps
I've been waiting for this day since forever. Nowwww why doesn't the bloody thing have a tv-out option.
Now only to make a SRT subtitles and fully "portable cinema"...
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Re: Xvid, divx for android
I downloaded an apk for rock divx player, but when installed its called Demo player. Is there a different apk which is a full version, or is this it?
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