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Thicko WLAN question

Right then, I don't know much about secure Wifi, so I've just changed my access point to not broadcast the SSID. So, how might I get my MDA Pro to learn about the SSID if it's not broadcast? Can someone please give me a "for dummies" guide to the LEAP thing as I don't have a clue
When I was broadcasting an SSID, it all worked perfectly, pretty much automatically.

I cheated, i set access point to broadcast ssid just whilst i put the JJ on it, once on i turned off ssid broadcasting.
its seemed a bit flakey when trying to add it in the leap settings page. i tried both open adn eap and then just decided it'll be quicker just to enable ssid for 2 mins.

This is hardware dependent, of course, but I set my wifi router up to only allow access from listed mac addresses. That, in addition to hiding ssid (once connected) and 128 bit wep is about enough to stop me getting the crawling heebie-jeebies.
They don't call me paranoid mike for nothing.
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they *aren't* out to get you

this_mike said:
This is hardware dependent, of course, but I set my wifi router up to only allow access from listed mac addresses.
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Interesting, and I think my router will do this. How can I determine the MAC address of the MDA?

OK, the following is on a blue angel but I imagine that the principle should extend to WM05.
Firstly, get the wep setup and copy the (uppercase) key to your ppc via AS so you can broadcast your ssid with relatively few twitches D).
Start > Settings > Connections > WLAN, fire up wifi and connect to your access point - in WM2003SE this means checking a tick box (or ticking a checkbox). Once you're connected, you should be able to see the ssid, tx rate etc as well as the mac of your wifi adapter.
Additionally / alternatively, your wifi ap may tell you the macs of all connected devices. The smart person would check this first and make a note of any devices and use this as a cross-check.
HTH!

Hidding the ssid doesn't bring any security
- trust me -
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The only way is to setup a basic WPA encryption. And you will be secure as long as you change the password on regular basis (every 1 or 2 months)
Avoid WEP encryption it's just crap and doesn't bring any security.
The SSID stuff and mac address filtering are just making you think that you are secure when you are not.
30sec to 5min max to decrypt WEP encryptions, less than 5 sec for mac address and SSID stuff.

works fine on mine and I don't broadcast ssid.
>start>settings>connections>network cards
>add new
type in your SSID as the network name
fill in the rest as per your setup
ok, there is no real security on wireless, but if we are all going to use it we may as well instigate all the security options we can. if there are 2 connections for a cruiser to access and 1 is easier than the other, I know what I would do....

WEP and above do provide security, at least if you don't want any old Johnny using your network.
So, use WEP or whatever security you have.
Hiding SSID literally just hides it. However, most hacking tools easily show the SSID anyway, so don't really on this. But, if you do hide the SSID, you have to set up the connection manually, typing in the name of the SSID and WEP key.
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most hackers tools that show ssid will decrypt wep in less than 2min.
I was just pointing it out because
1- it's to consider when you're buying an Access Point
2- If you're using it with sensible website (bank account) and such (even to check your mail - using your credit card etc ...)

fair point...
I guess it would be unthoughtful of us to give the know how without also giving the gotchas
;-)

I have got a hidden SSID and the qtek is able to find the network after typing in the name, but it ist not able to connect.
I have already checked the MAC.
It gets the right IP but after few second it scans the network for another time and so it goes on

Connecting to hidden wireless networks

Hey all, does anyone know how to get the Universal to connect to a hidden wireless network? I've got the router set up on WPA-PSK and know all its info but i cant seem to find anything which allows me to put in all the info and it will connect to it, when available, like i can on my computer. Only way that seems an option is through a VPN.
I've got it hidden just for security as well as MAC control (im in a high student/geek density area)
Cheers
JAmes.

If you have disabled SSID broadcast you need to add the SSID and the other parameters manually in the Pocket PC. Go to wireless settings, view wireless networks, add your own.

Ahh that worked
Dunno why I didnt notice that before, Doh!!
Thank you.
JAmes

Setting up wifi on MDA

I just received my MDA Friday and have not figured out how to link to my home network (Linksys WRT54G). On the router I have WPA-Personal TKIP encryption, MAC filtering, and have added the MDA's MAC address to the list.
Could someone provide a step-by-step on setting this up? The manual has absolutely nothing, and I can't even find any encryption settings in the MDA's wifi setup.

Nobody knows how to set up wifi on the MDA?

I have a Qtek 9100 connecting to a WRT54G and you really should'nt have to do anything special to make it work; but there is one thing I can think of though:
Is the wireless mode on your WRT54G set to 'G-only'? If so you will need to either set the mode to 'Mixed' or apply the 'G registry hack' described elsewhere in the forum to the MDA.
And maybe one more thing:
Have you disabled SSID Broadcast on the WRT54G? If that is the case the MDA can obviously not find the router.

lts said:
I have a Qtek 9100 connecting to a WRT54G and you really should'nt have to do anything special to make it work; but there is one thing I can think of though:
Is the wireless mode on your WRT54G set to 'G-only'? If so you will need to either set the mode to 'Mixed' or apply the 'G registry hack' described elsewhere in the forum to the MDA.
And maybe one thing more:
Have you disabled SSID Broadcast on the WRT54G? If that is the case the MDA can obviously not find the router.
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Thanks, Its, for your reply. I originally had the router set to "G only," then changed it to "Mixed," and have also done the MDA registry hack.
SSID Broadcast is disabled on the router, but I was hoping to plug in an IP address or something to point it in the right direction. I have a wifi module for my Nikon D2X camera that finds the router, as does my notebook computer, so I'm sure there's a way. I see no way to assign a security protocol on the MDA, and I'm sure that needs to be done. WPA-Personal (TKIP) is enabled on the router.
Hopefully I can get it talking to the router without compromising security. As I mentioned before, I've entered the MDA's MAC address in the router's approved list, as I do have MAC filtering enabled.

Once the MDA has detected the router you can choose to connect to it, and at that point you can enter the security protocol and your network key.
And once you have made a successfull connection, you can actually disable the SSID Broadcast on the WRT54G again. The MDA will remember the SSID and the settings.

Problem fixed, that did it. After enabling SSID Broadcast it picked it up and after disabling again it had no trouble connecting thereafter. Thanks for the tip!

WM6 + Wifi - WPA+TKIP

I have a wifi router at my office - Netgear, I am using WPA-TKIP as security options, the problem i am facing is - i have setup a passphrase on the router, but on phone, it just asks for network key, i need a way to enter a pass phrase, are there any updates to wifi for WM6 which can help me to get out of this situation?
I cannot change my existing WIFI settings on router, my other machines and devices are using the same configuration and now if i change it to WEP or something else, i will have to upload all other machines.
I cannot move to an open system as well.
please help

wpa without wpa-psk wont protect your network from being used by other ppl. i suggest u to choose wpa-psk (pre-shared-key). u choose a password and it is easy to setup for the other clients on your wireless lan. just enter password one time on the other clients and they are online. and wpa-psk works with wm6. greetz spaxxi

Where it says Network Key is where you enter the passphrase as used on your router.
On my SPV E650 (vox) I have WPA-PSK with data encryption set to TKIP
Use IEE 802.1x network access control box ticked and EAP type as smart card or certificate.
Also I have set networks to access as All available but on my netgear under wirless settings I have set up enable access list with the mac of the phone (which you can get from connection settings or with wirless on the phone switched on the router should detect the mac from phone broadcast which you can then accept as a trusted station.
This means only my phone can connect to the router even though my ssid is broadcast.
Hope that helps.
MrMond

the sip client you have works
w pa-st k is the best most efficient way to run and your net gear has 3 different ways in but the paraphrase is fine. use the para phrase where it says key go right through it, if i recall the client has ports but ur going direct you dont need it. Your just and to log into your router regular client is for web based app go right at the router use wififofum and then just make sure your sip is on meaning registry is live dont worry about the settings. Let me try to make sense all next ell are voip just an ip i don't care what anyone says. your do not need a web based sip just leave the sip alone but try activating it remember it a phone turn it on but 1 thing give out static ips u will succeed. static wpa-stk intra net ur just taking to the device no need for any barriers. you could hook up computer up slap head phones and a mic in the analog jacks from the 80's and you have no succeeded in ? Voip. all that matters is the router is set right and sees only you for the duration of your call. Most likely wil end up turning that whit wpn8xxx into a access point have fun don't ask. But it only took me 3 hours to realize i left to come back into my office for what a paid for call. And the day wireless is everywhere i will be a lan expert.
ciao good luck don't orry just look at it and you will see what makes sense.

WiFi with no SSID broadcast

Ok on our home wifi for added security I have disabled SSID broadcasting but have coded the connection parameters for our wifi in all our devices that use wifi. Every device we have can connect at will with SSID broadcasting disabled except for this new HTC Magic Rogers sent me a few days ago
When I go to the Magic's wireless settings page it says the following about our wifi...
"Not in range, remembered"
If I log in to my wireless AP and enable SSID broadcasting the Magic connects right away as you would expect but like I said I disable SSID broadcasting for security reasons and prefer to keep it that way.
Any ideas on a fix other than enabling SSID broadcasting?
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Hiding your SSID does not provide any additional security, any hacker can find out your SSID in a matter of seconds. Just use WPA2 with a strong key and you will be fine. Two good articles about hiding SSID
blogs.technet.com/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3576541

I have hidden SSID with WPA2-PSK on #13 channel and have no problem connecting phone to my home net.